Dragon's Milk | New Holland Brewing Company

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89
very good
1,431 Reviews
Dragon's MilkDragon's Milk
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
New Holland Brewing Company
Michigan, United States | website

Style: American Double / Imperial Stout

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 10.00%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
A barrel aged Imperial Stout with roasty malt character intermingled with deep vanilla tones, all dancing in an oak bath.

2014 Bottles are 11% ABV

Added by beernut7 on 08-12-2002

BEER STATS
Reviews:
1,431
Ratings:
5,410
Avg:
3.97
pDev:
25.69%
 
 
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324
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For Trade:
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Photo of rfgetz
4/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a deep dark brown, nearly black with minimal head, but decent lacing. Smell is of oak, vanilla extract, dark chocolate, nuts, cherrys and a hint of coffee. Taste is very plesantly oak forward, with good roasted grain, cocoa and nut flavors. Cherry flavors in e background. Present is a vanilla extract taste, a good quality oak should impart a natural vanilla like taste itself, but this seems artificial. Definitely a little boozy, and not necessarily in a good way... a tad fusel. Good soft yet medium body, light on the carbonation. I want to like this beer even more than i did, but things need to be blended and mellowed a bit better.

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Photo of caddybuyer
4.2/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a bomber into a tulip glass at cool cellar temperature (mine is a cold cellar here in January).

A-While not quite stout-like in its initial opaqueness, when held to light sudeways, nothing shines through, yet held up to light to sip, ruby highlights come through...attractive, deep mahogany coloration, with a thick creamy tan head when poured with vigour, that settles rapidly to a thin ring.

S-Strong sweet vanilla malts predominate with bourbon and dark fruits hiding a hint of chocolate.

T-Very interesting, as the nose carries over to the taste in an unexpected way. A creamy sweet cocoa infused classic old ale taste enters the palate, supported by oak and vanilla quick on its heels. Dark fruits are present throughout the midrange, followed by a slightly sweet astringent finish featuring both a mild hop accent and a warming sensation as the abv hits the tongue. Complex without being overwhelming, this is one enjoyable brew.

M-Mouthfeel is understated, yet creamy, medium full, without overcarbonation and oil. Exceptionally well balanced.

D-This is a highly drinkable beer. I have no idea what to call it...it is a blend of old ale, stout and perhaps a bit of American Strong Ale, but certainly a standout.

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Photo of goldbot
4.05/5  rDev +2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

On tap in a goblet. Poured a dark brown to ruby color, with one finger tan/brown head.

Smells of chocolate and dark cherry, some oak, and a moderate solvent/alcohol smell. Tastes more of the same. The solvent taste is very noticeable, but like a good bourbon, with decent alcohol warmth. The dark cherry, however, backs up the alcohol flavor quite well, creating a pretty nice balance. Nice oak flavors to back up everything else.

A great beer overall, the booziness is overpowering at first but it's like a good whiskey. I probably wouldn't drink a ton of it at once, but I'll have more if I get the chance.

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Photo of Jayli
3.93/5  rDev -1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Acquired this one from Martin2D so a big THANK YOU goes out to him!

A: This beer pours a deep dark chocolate brown with slight mahogany edges when held to the light. A one finger of khaki colored head. Head recedes relatively quickly leaving spotty, wispy lacing.

S: Nose is of dark fruits, vanilla, bourbon, and wood.

T: Taste starts with a brown sugar and toffee quality, dark fruits - raisins and cherries come in with caramel malts to fill out the middle. Then a vanilla and woody oak come through. Finish is rather boozy, but muted not one that burns.

M: Medium body, low carbonation, creamy body with a slightly oily finish.

D: Tasty, goes down somewhat easily, alcohol presence lowers the drinkability, but a nice offering of the style.

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Photo of fastsrt
4.17/5  rDev +5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a bomber to a pint glass deep black in color with a small but strong head that lasts smells of roasted malt oak and booze. The taste is creamy reminiscent of irish cream there is oak and vanilla, thete are some complex flavors that i cant put my finger on but are good. the drinkability is not there. this is a heavy brew with a high abv.

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Photo of violanojblues
4.43/5  rDev +11.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

A - very dark, blackish. not a lot of head when poored from my growler. little lacing.

S - roasted malty, you can smell the booze, but it's not overpowering. you don't drink this without knowing that it's potent. i could smell the "oak-age-edness" (maybe it's just my brain telling me that because they've been aged in oak barrels which tells my nose that it's there)

T - Amazing! there's a lot of character in this once it warms up a little. strong bourbon/oaky flavor. lots of roasted malts, slighty smokey & creamy too. lot of things going on in here without being an over-complex hodge-podge of ingredients.

M - medium body. lightly carbonated (what you'd expect for this type of beer).

D - very smooth. an excellent after-dinner beer. i've enjoyed this one everytime i've had it with every sip.

This is a home-town favorite, with good reason.

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Photo of mikereaser
3.3/5  rDev -16.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Poured from a 12 oz. bottle on 12/4/09

A - pours a pitch black with just a ring of bubbles on the surface

S - roasted malts, vanilla, hints of some smoke

T - roasted malts, vanilla, oak

M - a bit thin, good flavor, smooth and creamy

D - not a bad beer, but a bit lacking

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Photo of hardy008
4.13/5  rDev +4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a dark black color with streaks of ruby. Has a small tan head with decent retention. Smells of chocolate, oak, vanilla, and some whiskey. The taste also has flavors of oak, vanilla, chocolate, and some whiskey. A nice sweet flavor, which is not overly sweet, and it drinks nicely.

Nicely carbonated, medium bodied, I think this beer would age beautifully, but also is drinking nicely right now. This is a good tasting beer, which I will buy again. The first time i bought this, the beer was hot with booze. Today, 8/3/2013, I am drinking a 2013 vintage, and the alcohol is well disguised for 10.00 % abv. I decided to update my review.

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Photo of GeezLynn
3.72/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

12 oz bottle poured into a tulip.

A: Black with a brown tint. Ruby color at the bottom of the glass. Sparse white patches of fine bubbles make up the head.

S: Huge oak smell along with chocolate malt and vanilla.

T: Sweet, with oak and chocolate flavors dominating. Vanilla, honey, and prune flavors are apparent to lesser degrees. Finish is medium to long and slightly astringent.

M: Mouthfeel is a little syrupy with low carbonation, well within style. Alcohol burn is quite noticeable.

This was good, but not as good as I remember it from 2-3 years ago. Appropriately named, this was the hottest beer for its Abv (8.5% on bottle) that I have had for awhile. Backing off the oak would improve this beer considerably as it overpowers most of the beer's other qualities. Will have to put some away next time I have the chance and re-review.

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Photo of Cylinsier
4.27/5  rDev +7.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

From a large bottle.

Pours a dark chocolate black with minimal tan lacing. Glows a deep mahogany when held to light.

Smells of rich brown sugars and sweet dark fruits, particularly figs.

Tastes similar as well as alcohol tart. Only the slightest hint of smokiness on the tail end, but it is clearly oakey in that regard.

Pretty even body, with tingly and thin carbonation.

Not what I was expecting but I really enjoy it. I wish the feel was a little fuller, but other than that a very pleasant experience.

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Photo of rtratzlaff
4.6/5  rDev +15.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

This pours a clear black with ruby highlights all around the glass. A decent looking pour. Plenty of ecru head atop the body. The aroma is sweet bourbon oak along with plenty of malt. The flavors burst on the tongue with coconut quite strong from the bourbon barrels. The oak quality really stands out. Though this is classified an American strong Ale, I would call it a Bourbon Stout without the body. Tons of vanilla and bourbon characteristics are omnipresent. This is one awesome tasting beer. The mouthfeel is lighter than most, but the abv of 10% probably lightens it up a bit. The only thing that would improve with this is possibly a fuller mouthfeel, but I could care less since it is so amazing in the flavor department. If you like the taste of anything oaked, you will love this beer.

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Photo of Mora2000
4.32/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle courtesy thirdeye11.

Pours a dark brown color, similar to Coca Cola. The head is off-white. The aroma is strongly wood and bourbon and some vanilla. The flavor is similar with lots of vanilla as well as wood, bourbon, chocolate and coffee. One of the more complex tasting beers I have had in a while. Medium body and low carbonation. Awesome beer.

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Photo of burner
3.6/5  rDev -9.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

it's sunday afternoon. i am relaxing and watching nfl redzone ! just opend a 22 oz. bottle of dragons milk,ale aged in oak barrels.

A- the appearance is average. there is nothing special happening. the color is dark like cola. there was very little head. what was there disapated quickly with just a slight tan ring.

S- the aroma is slight, you really have to get in there. you will get notes of malt,vanilla and of course oak

T- the taste is what saves this beer. rich and sweet, not too sweet just a rich malty sweet. caramel and vanilla in the front. oak in the middle and alchohol finishes with oak rounding it out.

M- the mouthfeel is good. its not thick or syrupy. for the complexity of flavors it feel smooth. there is just the right amount of carbonation.

D- drinkability is average only for the reason that it is rich,and higher in alchohol. i really liked the flavors and easily drank the 22 0z. myself. that said i wanted something lighter to cleanse my palate. really enjoyed this ale and would recomend !

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Photo of swizzlenuts
3.7/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

The beer is poured a very deep rich ruby with very little head. The head that is there dissipates rather quickly, leaving only a small ring around the end of the glass. Tons of vanilla and oak come through on the nose, making it a pleasing aroma. A bit of caramel shines through as well.

When taking a drink I get a lot of burnt/roasted sugars with some vanilla and oak notes. The beer is tasty, but perhaps overly sweet. It's not quite cloying, but it's almost there. There isn't a lot of flavours coming through, and there is a slight bit of alcohol. I like the combination of vanilla and burnt/sweet sugar, but it's almost too strong and it needs something else to balance the flavours.

It's decently drinkable. I think the mouthfeel is pretty good though.

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Photo of dmamiano
3.74/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

poured a very dark, almost black with a small head and nice lacing observed.
smelled of oak, vanilla and alcohol. Hints of bourbon came to mind as took a good wiff!
taste was of oak, bourbon, vanilla and malts.
warming the insides as i quaffed this one.
very unusual beer...good.

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Photo of MbpBugeye
3.47/5  rDev -12.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

A- Not much in the way of a head. The beer is very RIS in appearance. Deep black, opaque body. Small wisps of lacing as the collar of foam around the edge goes down with each sip.

S- Oak barrels are big on the nose. It reminds me of Palo Santo Marron, only each beer is very very different with their own unique oak aromas. Aside from the heavy notes of oak the nose is sweet and alcoholic. There is vanilla and chocolate.

T- This is where this beer deviates from an RIS. Oaky, with slight hits of chocolate and vanilla. Its quite boozy. Some creaminess. Not much in the way of bitterness.

M- Thinner than hoped. Low carbonation. Drying finish.

D- The alcohol packs a punch. Its very noticeable both in taste and feel.

I have had this beer many times. It seems to be better on tap. I have also sampled an 07, 08 and 09 back to back. The 07 was by far the better sample. Age does this beer wonders.

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Photo of abrand
4.24/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

23 ounce bomber poured into the Founders pint glass. Very wordy label etched on the bottle with a nice story on the back.

The dragon milk pours a deep brown color with a nice bubbly cream colored head that doesn't hang around too long. Not much lacing lines the glass. The nose has very subtle hints of caramel and vanilla. Not much oak is noticed, but I am picking up some alcohol characteristics. Taste is quite complex with sweet vanilla and raisins with a nice bitter chocolate oak finish. Each sip I am picking up different tastes. Mouthfeel is medium bodied and overall I think this is a very tasty brew. The aromas and taste are both full of complexity and keeps the drinker at the edge of the seat.

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Photo of Burl41
4.64/5  rDev +16.9%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bomber into pint

Appearance- Dark brown with a great sold head, like a porter

Smell- Oak, vanilla, rasin with a hint of alchohal. The smell is wonderful, and strong, apparent as soon as you open the bottle.

Taste- Again like the smell, some roasted notes are apparent but not like its appearence would suggest. Caramel, a great oak vanilla falvor is what is most noticable, it's balanced and complex. There is a warming effect from the alchohal to finish. This is a great brew.

Mouthfeel- Thick and chewy, with the right amount of carbonation.

Drinkability- This was one of my first high end beers that I ever had and one I will continue to return to. This is a great beer, and a good interpertaion of the style. One that to be savored but can be enjoyed in more than one serving.

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Photo of thryn
3.83/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

Medium-dark brown, with a coppery tint. No real head, but a decent ring of tan fuzz.

Tons of vanilla in the nose. A hint of smoke, also, and a lot of toffee and caramel notes from the malt. Some booze, but not to unpleasant levels. Oaky, but smooth.

Taste is vanilla, oak, toffee, a hint of chocolate, a hint of peat and a noticeable but not hot alcohol presence. I bought this in July, so it's at least 5 months old. It's very nice. Really smooth. This is a barrel-aged beer where the barrel is prominent, and I'm generally a fan of forward oak, so I've got no complaints about that.

Feel is a bit thin, and it's a little flat, even for the style.

Decently drinkable for the style. Suffers a little from the flat feel, but it's delicious enough that I can overlook that.

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Photo of OrangeCharlie
2.16/5  rDev -45.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 1.5

A: Pours a dark black with a thin tan head.

S: Toffee, caramel, and roasted malts.

T: Coffee, caramel, and roast. A touch of bourbon with some woody oak notes towards the end. Strong, hot alcohol presence on the finish was a big turnoff. This just shouldn't happen in an 8.5% beer.

M: Good medium body, good carbonation.

D: This brings me back to the hot alcohol, which really ruined this beer. It became less appealing as it warmed as well, which made the hot alcohol much stronger.

Clearly, the hot alcohol was my biggest problem with this beer. I would give this another shot if it was cellared for a few months as it can possibly mellow out the booze, but from this first impression, this was a tough one to get down.

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Photo of ckeegan04
3.73/5  rDev -6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A - Thin brown head on top of near pitch black liquid. Head fades to just a thin ring around the glass and leaves only scattered lacing.

S - Roasted grain, chocoalte and alot of wood. The wood aromas come through more as the beer warms. Hints of vanilla as well.

T - Roasted grains and hints of vanilla and oak. Simi-sweet chocolate. The wood really begins to dominate the taste as the beer warms. Light alcohol burn with hints of paint thinner that really is not the most pleasant taste.

M/D - Full bodied with light carbonation. The somewhat unpleasant alcohol burn brings the drinkability down a notch but it is still an enjoyable beer for the most part.

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Photo of jwc215
3.55/5  rDev -10.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured into tulip glass:

Pours dark brown towards black with rubyish highlights when held up to the light. It has decent head retention, with some trailing lace sticking.

The smell is of oak - woody with vanilla and subtle/mild hint of cinnamon. There's a subdued chocolatey malt sweetness.

The taste is very sweet - oak and alcohol dominate. Hints of chocolate and tart cherry come through. Sweet with a touch of tart - malt subdued under wood and booze.

Hits full-bodied as it progresses - enough to give it the higher of the two scores I had in mind for the mouthfeel. Carbonation is mild - enough to be present and keep it from being too thick, though it is a bit slick. Heat lingers on the palate.

It's not astringent, but it is sweet and boozy. Maybe age will calm the alcohol presence. And, while I can appreciate the oak, it dominates just a bit too much here. Still, it's one to buy and share with a friend when you want an oak-aged dark brew and if you're "in the mood" for the "heat".

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Photo of corby112
4.35/5  rDev +9.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a very dark chestnut brown with mahogany edges when held to a light source and a 1.5 finger foamy tan head. Decent retention, slowly fading into a lasting ring that leaves spots of lacing behind.

Chocolate malt aroma with subtle bourbon, earthy oak and vanilla.

Lighter bodied tha I expected but not thin. Silky chocolate maltiness with hints of caramel and toffee. Not roasty at all. Surprising dark fruit notes including cherry, plum and raisin which provide a nice balance to the heavy malt presence. Subtle bourbon presence that isn't overpowering, letting the other flavors shine through. Earthy oakiness with a nice touch of vanilla which adds to the smoothness of the beer. This in combination with the well masked ABV make this beer pretty quaffable. Slightly dry finish.

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Photo of alcstradamus
3.85/5  rDev -3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Near black pour with a small, quickly disappearing head. Smell is lightly toasted malts, faint hints of oak and toffee, and a bit of citric hoppiness.

Taste is roasted malt, oak, and a tiny bit of dark chocolate bitterness. A bit ashy in the aftertaste. Slightly fuller than medium bodied. This is standard fare for barrel aged stouts. Nothing to make it stand out, but definitely still very flavorful and somewhat tasty

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Photo of Axic10
4/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a standard pint glass.

Appearance: Pours dark brown/almost black with a very little head that quickly disappears.

Smell: Roasted malt, oak and vanilla.

Taste: Heavy oak flavor initially followed by a smooth blast of vanilla on the tongue whe swallowed.

Mouthfeel: Smooth and creamy. Very enjoyable.

Drinkability: Very smooth which hides the 9% very well. I could through back a few of these before it finally catches up with me.

This is a beer that I have seen but have passed on buying for the last 5 years. I finally picked up a bottle and I'm glad I did. I really enjoyed this tasty brew.

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Dragon's Milk from New Holland Brewing Company
89 out of 100 based on 1,431 ratings.
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