Dragon's Milk | New Holland Brewing Company

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Dragon's MilkDragon's Milk
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
New Holland Brewing Company
Michigan, United States
newhollandbrew.com

Style: American Double / Imperial Stout

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 10.00%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
A barrel aged Imperial Stout with roasty malt character intermingled with deep vanilla tones, all dancing in an oak bath.

2014 Bottles are 11% ABV

Added by beernut7 on 08-12-2002

BEER STATS
Reviews:
1,439
Ratings:
5,440
Avg:
3.97
pDev:
25.69%
 
 
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Photo of BuckyFresh
3.77/5  rDev -5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Poured from a 12oz bottle into a large wine glass. Pours a fairly black color with a dark tan one-finger head. Not as oily as a thought the pour would be; there's still some light finding its way through the glass. Where there is light, the color is dark brown to blood-red around the edges.

Smell: Toasted malt, chocolate, molasses, and vanilla. There are also some nice dark fruit undertones. There's not as much oak discernible as I expected there to be; it seems like it might be getting lost among the sweeter aromas of the beer.

Taste: Lots of bitterness and warm undertones from the oak. The oak is definitely more of a player than in the aroma and offsets the toasted malt and dark chocolate notes nicely. I feel like the balance could be a bit better though, as it seems like some of the more complex flavors are being concealed by the stronger ones.

Mouthfeel: Medium to full-bodied, pretty bitter, with a fairly dry finish. 10% ABV is concealed well.

Drinkability: This is a pretty decent brew, but the bitterness and lack of flavor complexity might prevent me from having too many.

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Photo of brystmar
3.77/5  rDev -5%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

"Vintage 2010" bottle into a tulip.

A: pitch black with minimal head and mild lace. Looks slick and oily.

S: chocolate, oak, and booze all rush forward leaving traces of vanilla behind.

T: mmm, roasted malts! Sweeter than expected up front, then comes the oak, finishes milk chocolatey & dry. Solid for an IS.

M: thin and oily with minimal carbonation, but reasonably well-suited to the style. As always, I prefer thick and creamy...but that's what she said. ;)

D: has about the right amount of alcoholic warmth you'd want/need from a brew of this style; doesn't cut into its drinkability at all. Still quite flavorful and drinkable when warmed to room temperature. Not a favorite of mine, but a respectable offering nonetheless.

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Photo of rawthar
3.77/5  rDev -5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

A- Pardon me if I mistake this for a stout, in its black slithering body and capaccino head, there's nothing to really distinguish until I hold it to the light and see red rays meander through, betraying its differences from the opaque I'm accustomed to. Not sure how to rate to this style, so I'm comparing to a stout.

S- Caramel, lots of burnt oak (yeah that's practically cheating), sweet hot hints, some toasted marshmallow, a bit of grain, and some dry undertones under all the heavy duty malts. I'm impressed...and yet again, this does nothing to dissuade me from calling this a stout (even an Impy).

T- Not quite as impressed, but still pretty damn good. The sweet burnt sugars and the smoky wood just don't seem to meld together so well as they do in the nose, although separately, they are interesting, to say the least. Maybe some very dark chocolate, or even some very roasted mocha showing up here. I think this guy could have stood some aging, and I plan to get another for that purpose. I would guess that with a few years, this could clean up extremely well.

M- Hot alcohol burn on the way down, otherwise a smooth milky treat that means business.

D- This is where it suffers. A little too much of everything without the nice Imperial balance. Again, I think aging would repair this.

I got no beef with Dragon's Milk that aging couldn't cure.

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Photo of ColdPoncho
3.77/5  rDev -5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A - pours a red/brown, lots of ruby colored light comes through, not just around the edges, and no head.

S - big smell, booze, vanilla, raisins, and woody notes.

T - Booze, wood, chocolate, warm vanilla. surprisingly little going on here.

M - astringent, dry, and surprisingly thin.

D - I simply don't like this very much. I wouldn't drink more. But it's not bad to drink.

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Photo of Holland
3.77/5  rDev -5%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Served on tap at the brewery in Holland, MI.

A: dark brown color, light head and small lacing of an off white color.

S: scotch, oak, malt, some sweetness

T: the scotch taste hits you hard, then you can get to the vanilla and sweetness and malts

M: bit thinner than expected, but still decent body

O: drinkable, but not all the time. I love this beer because it is one that helped turn me on to craft brews. To be fair, though, there are better beers out there. This flavor is very sharp, and I like that it differs from other oak aged stouts in that. Could be aged more to tame it, but then it wouldn't be Dragon's Milk.

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Photo of Dizzle32
3.77/5  rDev -5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Heard a lot about this beer so I thought I would give it a go. Overall this beer has a great good oaky aroma. I poured into a goblet to enjoy. A dark pour with nice lacing. First sip was very warm. A nice flavor but the alcohol is the overwhelming characteristic. If you do not mind a truly warming beer this might be for you. I would drink it again but only on a cold night.

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Photo of mchegash
3.77/5  rDev -5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Appearance - 4/5
Pours a deep, dark, brown, with maybe a hint of red. A small amount of head.

Smell - 3.75/5
Vanilla, chocolate, roasty, alcohol

Taste - 3.75/5
Very sweet malts, oak, alcohol, vanilla, a bit of roastiness

Mouthfeel - 3.75/5
Medium bodied, light carbonation, a little syrupy, but not too much. In between creamy and crisp.

Overall - 3.75/5
I remember when I was still new to drinking craft beer and I had this for the first time, I was blown away by how good it was. Now revisting it a couple years later, it's not nearly as good as I once thought. But then there have been other beers which I used to not like which I now do. I guess tastes change. Anyway, with my present taste buds, I'd say this is a good beer, but there are tastier beers out there. Especially considering the price of this beer. Still, never a bad option.

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Photo of doughanson78
3.77/5  rDev -5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

22oz bottle poured into a snifter. Thanks to bobpack for this.

A: Very, very dark brown, almost black. Has deep red highlights when held to the light. A half finger mocha colored head that fades quickly. Leaves some decent lacing.

S: Lots of sweet milk chocolate and lots of vanilla. Some butterscotch coming through. Light hints of bourbon and oak. A touch of caramel.

T: Sweet chocolate and vanilla upfront, but only for a second until the bourbon takes over. Bourbon and not much else. A light butterscotch coming through and lots of alcohol in the finish. A light oak aftertaste.

M: Medium bodied. Light carbonation. Decent creaminess. Lots of alcohol warming in the back of the mouth and throat.

O: A bit to much bourbon for me. The smell had me excited. But the bourbon and alcohol smash everything that was awesome in the nose. Still a decent stout.

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Photo of prototypic
3.76/5  rDev -5.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to hoppymeal for the bottle. Much appreciated.

Appearance: It pours a very dark, chestnut color. There's some light getting through around the edges giving it a slight red tint. The head is a light chocolate color and is minimal. Perhaps half a finger deep. It was very quick to disappear and left light lacing.

Smell: The nose is weak and disappointing. There are some dark fruit (raisin and plum) aromas lingering. Chocolate malts emerge and seem to be primary feature. I'm not picking anything that really resembles oak, bourbon, or spices. That's perhaps even more disappointing than the strength shortcoming.

Taste: It definitely picks up here. Chocolate malts are indeed the primary feature, but there's some roasted flavors in there, as well. There is a slight bit of raisin and plum that adds some depth. Surprisingly, there is a nice oak flavor in there that really adds a lot to this beer. You can tell a little bit off whiskey rubbed off on it. It's not a really strong flavor, but it is nice and plays its role well. Alcohol is only faintly noticeable, but has a bit of a warming effect. Finishes sweet and warm.

Mouthfeel/Drinkability: This feels really light for what it is. Frankly, it's a little too light. Carbonation is very low. It's actually creamy and smooth, but it could still stand a little thickening. Drinkability is good. It goes down smooth and easy. I can't say I'd drink more than a bomber though. That's plenty in a sitting.

Dragon's Milk is a pretty good beer. Yeah, the nose is too weak and the body a little too thin. Those are my main complaints. But, I enjoyed this beer more than I thought I would after the first sip. It's unique in its flavor, body, and feel. It's certainly worth a try if you run across a bottle.

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Photo of largadeer
3.76/5  rDev -5.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bomber shared by chswimmer. Thanks, Craig. Dragon's Milk has a milky, draconic appearance to it. If I didn't know any better, I'd swear that it was, in fact, the milk of a dragon and not a mere strong ale from some mediocre brewery in Michigan. Amazing.

It smells strongly of bourbon and caramel. The label doesn't state the kind of barrel used, but I'm guessing whiskey of some variety. There's an undertone of vanilla and raw grain, and it has an almost chocolate-caramel candy sweetness. It's fairly mild on the whole, lacking the lactic viscosity I'd expect from a pint of real dragon's milk.

The palate is rather boozy, toffee and vanilla flavors running rampant alongside oak tannins and a dash of chocolate. The body is full, but more like 2% milk, definitely not like the milk of a dragon. It finishes with a nice balance of tannins, alcohol and malt, exhibiting some lingering notes of chocolate and caramel candy. Pretty good stuff overall, though the name is a bit misleading.

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Photo of CrazyMacHarris99
3.76/5  rDev -5.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

This one was poured at Smokin' Joes on the Southside - Feb 14th 2009. A dark almost black brew with dark brown highlights and a tan head that quickly dissipated. The smell is light with some oak and vanilla and a slight alcohol. There are dark fruits and some cocoa trying to push through. The taste is very boozy with a dominate vanilla and oak. There is some bourbon and brandy as well as the dark cocoa and a hint of bitter coffee. This one is very creamy and thick. It tastes amazing but is a lot all up front. This one needs to calm down a bit.

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Photo of Dwreck
3.76/5  rDev -5.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.75

More like a slightly bourbon barrel aged milk stout with flavor, smell, and feel. It's not bad at all, as I like a boozy bbs. Good bargain for the style.

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Photo of larryarms847
3.75/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Pours dark brown and almost black in appearance with a airy finger and a half of light tan foam.

Sweet vanilla, chocolate, roasted malt, oak, and bourbon.

Roasty, chocolate, light bourbon, subtle oak, and some creamy sweet vanilla.

Heavy-bodied, medium carboantion, a bit thin and over carbonated for style.

Overall, nice that it's available year round, but nothing amazing.

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Photo of docoman
3.75/5  rDev -5.5%

This was one of my first BA stouts and at the time thought was fantastic, but now that I've sampled many others... it's still good, but like others better. Has a sweet more of a creamer taste compared to others that are more chocolate and coffee flavors.

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Photo of SHODriver
3.75/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

2013 edition

A: poured into a snifter to a black beer topped by a finger of dense tan head that fades to a small collar around the edge of the glass
S: smells of whiskey barrel, chocolate and roasted malts
T: Taste is vanilla and caramel from the whiskey barrel with a little coffee and chocolate. Faint roasted malt flavor as well. Swallow is roasted malt, chocolate, a little oxidation and some more barrel.
M: Medium in the mouthfeel with soft carbonation and a dry finish
O: Very approachable and smooth. Flavors play well together but the mouthfeel doesn't really do it for me. Definitely one to try but I'm happy I don't have an entire four pack.

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Photo of Flashy
3.75/5  rDev -5.5%

Purchased in Vermont for $14.99 a four pack (when did we start getting New Holland?). Nice stout, nice level of bourbon flavor- but lacks the thicker body that I like in this kind of beer.

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Photo of Mauerhan
3.75/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

this has been sitting in my spare room for about a month.
chilled this afternoon then cracked as the redsox came back to tie a 7-0 lead. way to go tampa bay.

pours a dark brown. not much of a head even on a rather aggressive center pour. nice rich ruby highlights when held up to light.

smell is rich malty, some chocolate, oakie goodness, and a slight hint of vanilla.

taste is satisfying, as in the smell i get a nice amount of malts, a nice woodsy aftertaste with a warmth that leaves me happy. not great, but pretty decent none the less.

a very smooth drink with moderate to low carbonation.

i would most likely grab this beer again if i had the chance.

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Photo of bamadog
3.75/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Cracked a bottle of this with beerman207 over the weekend. Review is from notes taken on 3/27/2010 and poured from the bottle to a pint glass.

Appearance: Pours a dark coffee brown and has nice deep ruby highlights when held to the light; loose and thin creamy/milky light tan head; body is dark and nearly opaque; loose and spotty light tan lacing holds on here and there to the sides of the glass.

Smell: Sweet oaky vanilla - the barrel really comes through on this one; definite whiff of alcohol that is bourbonesque; a bit of chocolate as well.

Taste: A lot going on here -- deep dark roasty malts (but not quite burnt); light hints of chocolate and a definite presence of that sweet oaky vanilla that is so present in the smell; definite presence of bourbony alcohol; a slight presence of smoke and as it warms, there is a slight cola/cough syrupy sweetness.

Mouthfeel: Medium body, soft smooth carbonation that almost feels a little flat; slight stickiness left on the roof of the mouth; belly is left quite warm.

Drinkability: A little hot and overly sweet as it warms and it feels like if I had too much it would turn my stomach; I'm curious to see how this would do with some age on it to mellow out the alcohol.

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Photo of SykDoc
3.75/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a bomber into a snifter. It pours a deep brown that appears black and opaque when held to the light. A 1/4 inch mocha colored light head forms and reduces to almost no lacing. Carbonation is visible.

The aroma includes healthy notes of oak and vanilla. Some dark chocolate and coffee definitely lurk. There is sorty of a raisiny component as well.

The taste seemed a bit weak to me. The oak is definitely present, as is a nice level of dark chocolate afterwards and trailing with some coffee bitterness. It just seemed like it could have been more.

The mouthfeel was also similar to the taste. The level of carbonation initially seems reasonable but then seems to fall off and there isn't enough body to hold the palate. It finishes kind of bland.

Overall, this is a drinkable beer partially because it is not so overwhelmingly intense. However, it seems like it could have delivered a bit more punch, but still good.

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Photo of Arbitrator
3.75/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Chilled bomber into a glass, courtesy of Hexxed. Thanks buddy!

A: Pours an absolute pitch black with amber highlights at the edges. Has half an inch of cream-colored head that recedes quickly into a collar and light film on the brew. No lacing to speak of.

S: Tons of oak, followed by smoke, tobacco, roasted malt, and dark chocolate. The heavy emphasis on wood is kind of off-putting. There's a small caramel-floral note; did these barrels contain bourbon?

T: Follows the nose and adds some things. There's initially a strong oak and vanilla flavor with some smoke and tobacco lurking just behind. Roasted malt and chocolate make appearances toward the end of the swig. Nice flavor. I actually thought it tasted more like a stout than anything else.

M: Medium bodied, with carbonation on the lower side that gives it the body a pretty creamy feel.

D: This is a solid beer. Nothing to go apeshit over, but I certainly enjoy it. I'd have it again and might be in a mood to track down a second bottle sometime.

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Photo of AgentMunky
3.75/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 12 ounce bottle into an Ommegang glass. Vintage 2011. From notes. Reviewed 25 June 2011.

A: Dark black, with ruby glints in the light. Very little head.

S: Lots of whisky -- bourbon, oak, vanilla, alcohol. Not very strong, but what's present is very good.

T: Nice, but subdued. The maintaste is sort of vanilla-sweet. The aftertaste is slightly drying and very bourbon-y. Sweet all around and not much else. Considering the name, disappointing.

M: Full, rich, creamy, and scrumptious. Little carbonation.

O: A big, punchy-sweet imperial milk stout. Decent, but I prefer other imperial stouts. Not recommended, but it's not unfortunate. You might buy one just to keep the bottle/label.

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Photo of seeswo
3.75/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours black with a small whitish head. Big roast and oak on the nose. The taste is milky roastiness with a big oak punch. Maybe a hint of coffee and chocolate. The oak is a bit harsh - seems like it needs some time. The mouth is silky and creamy. Very nice. Overall, this beer has a lot of potential, but is overwhelmed with oak. Maybe some time will chill it out.

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Photo of Gambrinus1184
3.75/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a 22-ounce bottle into a Saranac pint glass.

A: Dark brownish black with a fluffy, two-finger head of tan foam that left a decent amount of clingy lace.

S: Sweet cream, vanilla, damp wood, and herbal, earthy hops fill the swirl of boozy aromatics.

T: Lotsa charred malts and lactic sweetness to start, with hints of anise and cocoa packed with marshmallow. Oaky, woody flavor jars the palate a bit, but it manages to stay pretty pleasant, albeit a tad out of whack. The finish is a jumble of earthy licorice, hops, lactose and licorice.

M: Full-bodied, robust and milky fell with some definite alcohol burn.

O: A really rich and complex American stout, but not the best blend of sweet and oak-aged booziness I was hoping for. At 10% ABV its still a little too harsh for immediate consumption, but further aging might bring the flavors together a little bit more nicely.

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Photo of ArrogantB
3.75/5  rDev -5.5%

On tap at Fresh Craft. Dark black, almost no head whatsoever. Aroma is slightly boozy, touch of barrel. Flavor is good, vanilla, booze, barrel and stout. The body is a little thin. Overall, not bad, I'd like a four pack please.

A:4
S:3.75
T:3.75
M:3.5
O:3.75

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Photo of JHogan02
3.74/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3

Was as it is, a dark stout.Many friends said it was "too bourbany", yeah..right.Drink some Real American Bourbon and get on with your life! Nuff said!

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Dragon's Milk from New Holland Brewing Company
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