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Dragon's Milk | New Holland Brewing Company

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BA SCORE
89
very good
1,446 Reviews
Dragon's MilkDragon's Milk
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
New Holland Brewing Company
Michigan, United States
newhollandbrew.com

Style: American Double / Imperial Stout

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 10.00%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
A barrel aged Imperial Stout with roasty malt character intermingled with deep vanilla tones, all dancing in an oak bath.

2014 Bottles are 11% ABV

Added by beernut7 on 08-12-2002

BEER STATS
Reviews:
1,446
Ratings:
5,489
Avg:
3.97
pDev:
25.69%
 
 
Wants:
329
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1,665
For Trade:
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Photo of HoppierGator
3.86/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

A: Dark brown to black hues. Minimal dark khaki head and lacing
S: Chocolate, sweet bread, slight vanilla. Subtle bourbon
T: Didn't get too much upfront. Mid-way through get slight chocolate with some sweetness. Backend is relatively smooth. Get a bit of booze/barrel with some slight coffee bitterness
M: thin to medium bodied. More carbonation than I expected
O: Pretty drinkable for a bourbon barrel aged stout. Not too shabby. I personally prefer a more full bodied barrel aged stout

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Photo of BeerForMuscle
3.86/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

A - Definitely not as dark as I had anticipated. It's a deep brown, pretty clear. Some dark amber hues at the bottom of the pint glass. Sturdy two finger head atop.

S - A sweet bouquet of caramel, toffee, and vanilla. Balanced with a certain mineral quality, and earthy oaky notes.

T - Sweetness and warmth up front. Viscous tastes of all of the above. Burnt caramel, brown sugar, sweet malt. The high alcohol is present, and evaporates on the palate sort of like a clean clear liquor. The 10% is present but not cloying. Dry roasted grains and oaky tones in the end.

M - Pretty slick, like a nice milk stout. The carbonation allows the flavor profile and abv to shine through.

O - Not so traditional milk stout in my opinion but tasty. Seems closer to a double bock or a maple porter. Try it out.

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Photo of secondtooth
3.85/5  rDev -3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Appearance: Pitch black with a wee bit of deep tan lace.

Aroma: Whiskey, cocoa. Already this one seems strong with sweet vanilla and oak barrel apparent.

Taste: Big and heavy, with tons of vanilla and wood tones alongside chocolate and a coffee, as well. Finishes really warm and boozy. Delicious and one to savor and sip.

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Photo of msgraves
3.85/5  rDev -3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Served in a snifter from Dilly Deli in Mariemont, OH.

Presented as a deep, deep reddish-brown with minimal head and mediocre lacing around the edge of the glass.

What first hit me with the aroma was the astringency/alcohol and complexity of a fine bourbon. Lots of vanilla and chocolately sweetness compounded with some oak. Plenty of bourbon character to this one.

Again the bourbon shines through but with enough malt backbone to support it. Many of the aromas are mirrored in the taste: vanilla, chocolate, malt, alcohol.

Felt a little thin in my mouth. However, the beer finished sweet and lasted a moderate amount of time.

Look forward to having this one again.

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Photo of bditty187
3.85/5  rDev -3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Dark brown in hue with a ruby influence, the liquid seems clear. The head was beige in color; at the apex the foam was one finger in height. Head retention was decent, the bubbles collapsed to a soapy cap, it was thicker around the edges but not naked in the middle but after a few more moments there was exposed liquid. There was some subsequent lacing; it was unorganized and not very prevalent. On the whole, this beer looks respectable but not remarkable.

The nose really surprised me! There is a rustic chocolate twang with vanilla, old oak chips, cookies, cream, vanilla schnapps, and there is a distant whisky cake vibe. The potency of the aromas was moderate. The nose is articulate, even if it is a mouthful... there is a great deal going on here. I need a breather just to figure things out. I can’t say I find the nose inviting but I am interested in taking a sip. I’d call it odd and mystical.

The palate is as strange as the nose suggested. What is the deal with the acidity? This really throws a curveball in the mix. It is like a Milk Stout on crack mixed with bourbon and vanilla schnapps. Okay, I don’t really know what the whole “milk stout on crack” means but you get the point I hope. It reminds me of a lambic and a stout, mixed. At least I can call this beer unusual. I do like, a lot, the chocolate cake taste, the vanilla cookie sensation, and the oaky underbelly. Honestly, I don’t dislike any aspect of this beer, it is just odd but it is growing on me. The finish reminds me of yogurt. Do I really want his in a beer? I guess so… the alcohol burn is minimal but it does supply a good deal of supporting attributes. I wonder if this beer is suppose to have the lactic twang… if not, I could see this beer kicking-ass. If so, this beer is very good, very odd but very good. Without hesitation I would sum up this beer as “wacky as shit.”

Around medium in body, the carbonation is low but very fitting for this beer. The mouthfeel isn’t impressive but it isn’t flawed either. It is good... workable but in order to reach greatness there needs to be more might in the mouthfeel department.

This beer is pretty drinkable, all things considering. There are many pluses but there a couple minuses. When I add them up, the pluses win. This is a good beer but it is nothing I would seek out or buy many of if I had the chance. I would like to try it again but because this beer was so surprising I might like it more now that I have been acclimated. I need to thank mentor for the bottle. It was a gift, what a great guy.

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Photo of bluemoonswoon
3.85/5  rDev -3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: Brown out of the bottle, deep black in the glass, topped at first with an inch and a half of loose, tan bubbly brown head that fades into a just as loose and soapy looking cap.

S: Lots and lots of bourbon, sort of amazing, I think this could give Bourbon County Stout a run for its money in terms of all out bourbon aroma, though given a bit of time to warm up other aromas begin to show themselves: vanilla, molasses, raisins, bitter bitter chocolate, lots of sweetness but really mostly bourbon.

T/MF: Bourbon up front but sweeter, richer flavors developing beneath. Vanilla, oak, molasses, and even a bit of pitted cherries make an appearance here. Feel is thick and sweet and grabs the tongue on the way down.

D: Not really sure where this beer fits, it tastes a lot like bourbon barrel aged stouts I've had in the past except that it's not a stout and the bourbon really seems to be the only thing driving this beer. If the beer were not barrel aged I am wondering what I'd be left with. Knowing this though the beer is still pretty good and drinks a great deal lighter than the above mentioned Bourbon County Stout. One is good and I'd leave it at that for the night.

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Photo of Bung
3.85/5  rDev -3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Dark red/brown pour, almost no head to it. Not a strong aroma, slight coffee and toffe. Pretty malty with carmel and slight chocolate. Nice warming going down, 9% abv not offensive at all. Had some other bourbon barrel aged beers, I don't get much in this one from oak barrel.. Reminds me of Highland Brewing's Tasgall Ale. Not bad at all though.

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Photo of RepMichigan
3.85/5  rDev -3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 12oz bottle into a pint glass.

A: minimal to no head, opaque body

S: Smells of booze right off, but you do gets hints of coffe, chocolate and toffe

T: Chocolate and coffe as i smelled in the boquet alcohol is apparent but not overwhelming

M: a little thin i thought, maybe should have been more creamy

O: honestly the first time I had this I was disgusted, tried it again and now I love it.
Goes to show that ya gotta try everything twice!

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Photo of alcstradamus
3.85/5  rDev -3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Near black pour with a small, quickly disappearing head. Smell is lightly toasted malts, faint hints of oak and toffee, and a bit of citric hoppiness.

Taste is roasted malt, oak, and a tiny bit of dark chocolate bitterness. A bit ashy in the aftertaste. Slightly fuller than medium bodied. This is standard fare for barrel aged stouts. Nothing to make it stand out, but definitely still very flavorful and somewhat tasty

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Photo of dbrauneis
3.85/5  rDev -3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: Pours a very dark amber to dark brown (almost black) in color with some brown highlights and light to moderate amounts of visible carbonation near the surface. The beer has a finger tall creamy tan head that reduces to a small patch of thick bubbles, a very thin film covering the majority of the surface of the beer, and a medium-thick ring at the edges of the glass. Moderate to significant amounts of lacing are observed.

S: Moderate aromas of bourbon and bourbon barrel (oak/vanilla) with some very light notes of milk chocolate sweetness.

T: Moderate to strong flavors of bourbon with some lighter notes of dark roasted malts, milk/lactose sweetness, milk chocolate, oak, and vanilla.

M: Medium bodied with light to moderate amounts of carbonation.Moderate amounts of alcohol heat and some light dryness in the finish.

O: This is an enjoyable beer due to the bourbon barrel aging adding to the nice stout flavors and aromas but needs to be sipped slowly as this is a pretty big beer (and the alcohol is not too well hidden in it).

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Photo of jaxon53
3.85/5  rDev -3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This is a beer I've been wanting to try for sometime. This is also my first New Holland beer. Served this just slightly chilled, in a pint glass, from a twenty two ounce brown bottle.

Appearance: Dragon's Milk pours out what appears to be black, with deep garnet highlights. A semi-strong pour resulted in about a finger of bubbly tan head. Head faded quickly into a soapy tan coating atop the beer. Just a bit of random lace was left behind.

Smell: Malty, with complex oak layers that have hints of char. I'm getting slight notes of chocolate and caramel. A bit of cherry lingers in the background with a mild blast of booze.

Taste: Again, nice thick malt comes through first with a good dose of oak. The oak flavor really gives this beer a smooth flavor. Again I'm picking up hints of chocolate and a bit of faint coffee. There was also a bit of char that was also noticed in the nose. Slight vanilla undertones. The 8.5 percent ABV goes almost unnoticed, except for a slight warmth when it goes down.

Mouthfeel: Almost thick, full bodied mouthfeel. Quite smooth with a moderate amount of tingly carbonation.

Drinkability: Quite drinkable thanks to the smoothing, mellowing effect of the oak. Would love to have this beer again.

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Photo of FosterJM
3.85/5  rDev -3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

1425th Review on BA
Bottle to Wine glass
12oz

Purchased at Binny's Naperville, IL

App- Poured out the color of port wine. A bit of brown, black and red. Had no bubbles on the first pour and then the second pour had a 1/4" head and no cling. Was okay looking.

Smell- Really had a ton of malts behind it. The oak is really subdued and has more of a prickly booze from the ABV. A good amount of dark fruits and chocolate behind it.

Taste- This was a flavorful high ABV beer. It was tasty but needed a bit more balance and filling flavors. The dark fruits make this like a port vs. BB stout, wasn't bad, but I've had better.

Mouth- A good and filling light medium body with a low/medium carbonation. Fairly rich and chocolately. Nice feel.

Drink- I really should've bought 3 or more. I think with time, this
can be magical.

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Photo of psnydez86
3.85/5  rDev -3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Apperance- Poured a deep dark mahogony into a pint glass with good lacing and nice 1.5 inch esprosso like head. light can barely pass thru this monster.

Smell- Roasty Coffe, Vanilla, Bourbon, booze.

Taste- Starts off with a typical roasty coffee stout tastes which quickly gets attacked by some vanilla and strong bourbon flavor. I'm not a bourbon fan at all but it is a nice sidekick to the vanilla and roasty character of this beer.

Mouthfeel- Nice creamy mouthfeel on this one which I think is perfect for the style

Overall- Its my birthday today and a friend of mine picked this up for me at 8 Degree Plato Beer company Ferndale, Michigan. This is actually the first oak aged Stout i've had and I really enjoyed it. If your the kind of person that enjoys craft beer and enjoys bourbon/whiskey on the rocks this beer will turn you into a raging alchoholic if your already not there. CHEERS.

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Photo of Chris_r2112
3.85/5  rDev -3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4

Appearance: Black, with about 1 finger of brown head. leaves moderate lacing on the glass.

Smell: Pretty bad actually. Extremely metallic. Sweet chocolate with hints of woodiness. Would be nice if the metallic smell wasn't so prominent. EDIT: The metallic smell of this beer has dissipated a bit as it has warmed. I still feel it can be greatly improved upon, though.

Taste: this is where the beer starts to get good. Almost no hints of metal which I detected on the nose. I'm getting sweet chocolate, smoky wood, bourbon (of course), slight hint of coffee, vanilla. This beer is fairly boozy. It's 11%, and you can instantly tell. Regardless, the alcohol content works with the rest of the beer.

Feel: This is the one factor that sets this beer apart from other similar beers in the style. This beer feels absolutely beautiful. Silky smooth, milky with light to medium carbonation. Definitely world class in regards to the feel.

This beer was a bit of an odd ball. Appearance wise, its your typical black stout. The head and lacing were even borderline sub-par . I also didn't like the smell of this beer at all. I would almost liken it to sticking my face in a bag full of nickels. The only factor that saved this beer from a sub 2 score in "smell" was the nice hints of wood and bourbon I found as well. However (and this is a big however), this beer is incredibly tasty if you get past the average appearance and the poor smell. Wonderful hints of chocolate, smokiness, wood, and of course bourbon make this a very tasty beer. The feel of this beer is also world class. Seriously one of the smoothest beers I have ever had the fortune of trying. I will more than likely pick this one up again if I can find it, despite the fact that It's a little bit rough around the edges.

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Photo of ONUMello
3.85/5  rDev -3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

12oz 2012 vintage bottle poured into a pint glass
A: Dark brown with a two-finger tan head
S: Loads of milk chocolate, a bit of caramel, coffee and bread
T: Chocolate, some cream, again a bit of caramel/coffee- intense up front but lacks a significant finish
M: Medium-bodied, creamy, a touch hot
O: Solid but I don't get how obsessed I've heard some are over this

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Photo of BarrelO
3.85/5  rDev -3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

22oz bomber poured into a goblet. 8.5% ABV according to the bottle.

A: Dark brown body, almost black. Little head with no lacing to speak of.

S: Lots of oak. Also some vanilla.

T: Again, oak and vanilla. Some whiskey-esque alcohol burn.

M: A bit thin. I would have liked it to have been more substantial.

D: I'm not sure what to make of this. It's kind of in style limbo. It has a few elements of a stout, an old ale, and a barleywine, but it never really takes off when taken as a whole. I don't regret trying it, but I don't see myself seeking it out in the future.

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Photo of korguy123
3.85/5  rDev -3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz bottle into snifter.

A- Pitch black pour with a half finger light beige head. Lacing is spotty.

S- Slight oak with a touch of bourbon in the mix. Slightly sweet with chocolate, vanilla and molasses. Roasted malt, slight char with a subtle coffee finish.

T- Chocolate, medium roasted coffee, vanilla and a nice, sweet warm bourbon presence. Molasses, brown sugar and licorice in the back end.

M- Medium to full bodied, slightly creamy, a little on the syrupy side.

O- I didn't know what to expect with this coming into it. I knew it was classified as an American Stout which generally to me feel a little on the thin side. This had a great feel, the bourbon added but didn't distract. Overall pleasant surprise!

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Photo of bostoneo
3.85/5  rDev -3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Obtained from Mustard Seed market in Fairlawn/Montrose North Eastern Ohio f or 5.99. Served in a british non-nick pint glass.

A - Deep black, almost stout/porter looking, appearpance with a very small head that faded quickly.

S - Smells of quality stout/porter with a bourbon touch, which is very light.

Taste - Small touch of bourbon again with the base of a stout/porter beer

Mouthful - Almost like water with a bourbon and stout/porter taste, great balance.

Great beer to follow up with some bourbon you've already had. Smooth, can't even notice the 9% abv thats even in it! However a bit pricey, but hey its quality beer!

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Photo of JVEyck309
3.85/5  rDev -3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Found this in my friend's local store, (Englewood NJ) hadn't seen anything by this Brewery before so I went for it.
Bomber poured into regular glass
Dark black with thin sticky head
Smell is big on the oaky side with vanilla caramel syrup
taste was to be expected, heavy warming alcohol, whiskey, oak, caramel vanilla, sweet malt
Oak flavor might be a bit much but I'm enjoying this, really warms the throat, great for a cold night like tonight.
High abv doesn't make this session worthy but I would get this again.

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Photo of JoEBoBpr
3.85/5  rDev -3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured into a tulip glass from a 22oz bottle.
Vintage: 2013

Pours a nice dark liquid with some mahogany edges. There is a nice dense light tan head that forms. Pretty creamy looking. Retention is not bad. Nice and sticky on the sides of the glass.

Aroma starts off with some caramel and molasses. Dark fruit notes and some slight boozy notes follow. There are also some nice chocolatey hints in the aroma that give the brew a nice sweet notes. There is some good heat to the brew and there is also notes of wood from the barrels.

Flavor starts off with some nice boozy heat. There is nice molasses and dark fruit notes in the flavor. Notes of raisins and gooey caramel sweetness. Some earthy and woody barrel notes are present as well that intermingle with some more fudgey and chocolatey goodness. The barrel and boozy heat are present but not overwhelming and actually gives the beer a nice cleaner finish. The body is a bit on the lighter side but its still a bit on the medium side.

OVerall this is a yummy approachable BA beer. Nice notes of bourbon and some good dark fruits.

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Photo of Emunselle
3.85/5  rDev -3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Due to the fact that I am drinking Dragon's Milk with some dark chocolate as I am writing this, I can be more in depth with this review.

Appearance: Its Dark! Barely can see light through it. Looks lightly carbonated. I poured it gently out of the bottle so I don't know what kind of head it may produce but I would assume a very thick head.

Smell: Sweet and malty.

Taste: Kinda Barley-wine like. Sweeter than a typical dark ale. I dig it. Leaves no bitter after taste. In fact it leave a very pleasant after taste.

Mouth Feel: Rather thick. The name implies a thicker feel and that's exactly what you get. But not like you have to chew it.

Seeing how I like thick beer in the right style and flavor, this one will routinely stock my shelf whenever I do my beer runs.

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Photo of HarrySTruman
3.85/5  rDev -3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Dark brown/red, almost black. Small head that dissipates quickly, slight lacing, but a good lacing for the style.

Smells of dark fruits, figs, oak barrel, alcohol and molasses.

Taste is very interesting. Not hard to drink, tastes like the smell, very well balanced. Actually pretty easy to drink given the oak barrel aging (which I feel can lead to making a beer a sipper, this one doesn't have that effect) and high ABV. Hints of bitter chocolate and malts, mixed with oak, alcohol and dark fruits.

It's smooth but pretty thick. Mild flavors and high ABV make it slightly harder to drink than an average American Stout, but not bad considering what it is.

I really like this, although it will absolutely get you drunk in a jiffy. Either take it slow or drink out of the public eye!

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Photo of Omnium
3.85/5  rDev -3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.75

Bottle > Tulip glass
A - Rich black brown with a very thin layer of fizzy tan head, no lacing. Looks kind of lame.
S - There is a lot of rich bourbon and oak notes in here with some sweet caramel malt. Lots of vanilla in here, some slight hint of cinnamon, and dark chocolate.
T - Very rich and sweet, sugary caramel malt, loads of vanilla, toffee, bourbon, boozy sweetness, some oaky aftertaste.
M - Velvety smooth, but a bit too cloying at times.
O - Im surprised I havent had this before, I know its been around a while. Its good, but a bit too sweet.

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Photo of hermit990
3.84/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.75

12 oz. bottle poured into a goblet. 2014 Vintage, date code on bottle translates to 2/25/2014. Review Date: 4/19/2014.

Appearance: Pours black/muddy brown, opaque. Half-finger's worth of a tan head that quickly dissipates into a thin layer.

Smell: Bourbon character hits first on the nose, some oak, vanilla, slight coconut aromas follow. Finishes with roasted malt, dark chocolate.

Taste: Bourbon barrel flavors hit first, matching the nose with the bourbon, oak and vanilla character. Afterwards, the malt starts to take over, lots of roasted grain and chocolate on the tongue with a very slight bitterness. Aftertaste has some coffee flavors, before the bourbon barrel emerges through again. Alcohol and dark fruits become more present as the beer warms, along with an earthy spiciness.

Mouthfeel: Body feels thin for the style. Slight alcohol heat is present. Finishes slightly dry.

Overall: This is an enjoyable, decent barrel aged offering. In my experience, it has been easy to find, but can be a bit pricy at $16 per 4 pack in my area. It is a nice option if you're in the mood for a bourbon barrel aged beer, but there are others that I would choose first.

Overall:

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Photo of OneDropSoup
3.84/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Poured from a bomber, looks to be pretty darn dark, if not totally black, with a bubbly tan head, about half a finger. Head dissipates quickly, almost no lacing.

Smell's rich: I get caramel, dark Christmas-y fruits (raisin, a little fig, a little black cherry), oak booze smell. None of the coffee or chocolate stuff so prevalent in stouts (which I guess is because it's not a stout, but look at this thing & try not to expect those smells).

Flavor's very similar to the smell, with little bitterness. The alcohol picks up momentum, & the wood-y flavors are emphasized a little more. Others have said the barrel flavor is overpowering, whereas I find this to be one of the more tempered & even barrel-aged beers I've had. I love the intense bourbon barrel of others, but this is very well-integrated.

Mouthfeel's on the creamy side, with a tingle from the slightly high ABV. This one does not hide its alcohol.

I found one easy enough to drink, but don't know if I need to go back for a second. I've had it on tap before (didn't review it though), & would be more apt to have a second or third of a draft.

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Dragon's Milk from New Holland Brewing Company
3.97 out of 5 based on 5,489 ratings.
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