Dragon's Milk | New Holland Brewing Company

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Brewed by:
New Holland Brewing Company
Michigan, United States | website

Style: American Double / Imperial Stout

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 10.00%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
A barrel aged Imperial Stout with roasty malt character intermingled with deep vanilla tones, all dancing in an oak bath.

2014 Bottles are 11% ABV

Added by beernut7 on 08-12-2002

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3.97
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25.69%
 
 
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Photo of mecummins
4.19/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Poured from a bottle to a pint glass.

A- poured very dark brown black. A bit of reddish highlights when held up to a light. . Maybe a bit more than a half finger head and really no lacing to speak of. It looks like a big beer (as it should.)

S- It smells sweet. I can immediately pick out caramel and vanilla scents. There's a mocha aspect as well as a boozy nose to it.

T- I can taste the coco and vanilla notes right away. The bourbon booziness is there as well, but not overwhelmingly so. I can also pick out some sweet caramel and maybe some dried fruit on the back. It's pretty well balanced for such a big beer.

M- Creamy verging on lush. A medium finish which is appreciated with such a rick beer.

O- I really enjoy this beer on a cold winter night. It's not something you're going to want 2 or 3 of or to drink with a meal. But on it's own, it hits the spot.

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Photo of BucannonXC5
4.19/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Type: 22-oz. bottle
Glass: Paper hotel cup
From: World Market in Mooresville, N.C.
Price: $7.99
Purchased: July 31, 2014
Consumed: Aug. 2, 2014
Misc.: Vintage 2014, but missed the rest of the other stuff

Poured a black color with two fingers of tan head. Above average lacing on the sides of the cup. Above average retention on the top of the cup.

Smelled fudge, dark chocolate, maple syrup, toffee, caramel, bourbon, candied chocolate and chocolate syrup.

Tasted caramel, toffee, chocolate syrup, fudge, bourbon, vanilla, candied chocolate and fig newton. Pretty tasty.

Full body. Sticky texture. Average carbonation. Long, smooth finish.

A pretty awesome beer. Wish I would have grabbed some more.

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Photo of caddybuyer
4.2/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a bomber into a tulip glass at cool cellar temperature (mine is a cold cellar here in January).

A-While not quite stout-like in its initial opaqueness, when held to light sudeways, nothing shines through, yet held up to light to sip, ruby highlights come through...attractive, deep mahogany coloration, with a thick creamy tan head when poured with vigour, that settles rapidly to a thin ring.

S-Strong sweet vanilla malts predominate with bourbon and dark fruits hiding a hint of chocolate.

T-Very interesting, as the nose carries over to the taste in an unexpected way. A creamy sweet cocoa infused classic old ale taste enters the palate, supported by oak and vanilla quick on its heels. Dark fruits are present throughout the midrange, followed by a slightly sweet astringent finish featuring both a mild hop accent and a warming sensation as the abv hits the tongue. Complex without being overwhelming, this is one enjoyable brew.

M-Mouthfeel is understated, yet creamy, medium full, without overcarbonation and oil. Exceptionally well balanced.

D-This is a highly drinkable beer. I have no idea what to call it...it is a blend of old ale, stout and perhaps a bit of American Strong Ale, but certainly a standout.

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Photo of tempest
4.2/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

9%? I could definately down a growler of this. This is a pretty cool beer, kind of like an American old ale. Big caramel and chocolate (reminds me of carafa malts) flavors. I get more chocolate in the aroma with a hint of oak. There are also some mroe subtle flavor floating around like vanilla, but this isn't the most comples beer. Still, it's very drinkable and I'd get it again.

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Photo of flyphisherman
4.2/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Purchased at Bevco in TC, MI for $6.99.

Refered to as "The crown jewel of New Holland Brewing Co." Dragon's Milk is a high gravity ale, aged in oak barrels. Besides the 8.5% ABV, it boasts stunning complexities, and is singularly distinct. The term "Dragon's Milk" dates back to the 1600's in England; essentially an "October beer": a consequential style attributed to the lack of refrigeration needed in the summer months. Whether this style is an authentic reincarnation, that is unknown.

Appearence: a very deep ruby tone exists beyond the otherwise jet-black body when inspected via sunlight. a thin layer of lacing clings to my McChouffe Chalice, albeit somewhat sparce. the initial two finger head disipates to an almost non-existant meniscus.

Smell: Subdued. Malty. Roasted grains. My ol'factory is tickled by dark chocolate and vanilla. background consists of caramel and figs. maybe burnt cocoa.

Taste: Talk about intense! Chocolate and coffee with a warming alcohol effect. a little overwhelming from the start. but once the carbonation dwindles and the temperature nears room, Dragons Milk is suprisingly drikable and satisfying. the warming sensation is what keeps my lips to the glass. Dont get me wrong this is supremely complex, there is a lot going on and I do reccomend letting it mellow while enjoying. Basically, savoring it in the span of a half-hour or more. This way the complexities seem to be more specific and certainly more decipherable. Thanks to New Holland's Barrel aging process, the oaky, earthy flavors only accentuate these afformentioned complexities. Note: The dark malts do overpower any hop presence.

Mouthfeel: Can you say "viscous?" Indeed very chewy, it lingers longer than most styles of this calaber. Gets better with every sip.

Drinkability: Surely not a "session beer" its definately a "sipper." A perfect fit for a chilly winter eve, after an outdoor activity. I drank the 22oz Bomber this fall while handing out candy; it is arguably one of Michigan's finest examples of an "American Strong Ale."

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Photo of akorsak
4.2/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A 650 mL bottle purchased at Joseph's in Toledo, OH en route to Dark Lord Day.

A: The ale is darker than I expected, not amber but rather a full-bodied black color. The more I look at it, the more it resembles cola with a dark brown color and some ruby highlights throughout.

S: The nose is stout-like, this with caramel and graham grain aromas. There is no indication of any oak barrel aging, as readily suggested by the name.

T: The nose had me expecting something subpar, luckily the first sip delivered a malty blast of goodness. Thick grains with caramel and toffee flavors abound, overwhelming the tastebuds with a sickly sweet profile. The oak barrel adds a deliciously soft touch to the thick malts, with vanilla and buttery oak flavors reducing the bite of the grains. Having been less than impressed by most of the other New Holland beers, this one really pleases me. The finish is a nice blend of chocolate and caramel malts and oaky flourish. This is what a drinkable barrel aged beer should aspire to be.

M: The mouthfeel is a restrained work of art, full of big flavors without a knock-out punch.

D: I wish that I had picked up a bottle or two more of this brew, the flavors are full and the oak aging adds a wonderful blast of flavor.

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Photo of Strike00
4.2/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

L: pours dark brown but not as dark as I was expecting, with a light brown head and medium lacing.
S: big bourbon smell. some chocolate and sweetness, maybe vanilla, underneath.
T: Bourbon and Booze right upfront. After those initial tastes you get Chocolate and teh stout base in the back.
F: Medium bodied, pretty smooth

O: pretty good BA Stout.

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Photo of DrDoitchbig
4.2/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Appearance: Upon first inspection this strong ale looks more like a stout. Jet black with two solid fingers of light tan head. Only when held inches from a light source does it look anything other than opaque. Near the light it reveals itself to be a deviously dark brown with reddish highlights.

Smell: A strong punch to the nose of pure bourbon. Oak notes go hand in hand. These mostly overwhelm but there are sweet aromas of vanilla and caramel cowering in fear somewhere in the backdrop.

Taste: New Holland doesn't mention whether the oak barrels they used for Dragon's Milk were previously owned but judging by the taste I'd reckon they had a past life harboring some form of whiskey. With every sip I expect an impending burn down my throat and warmth in my stomach. But no this is just beer. After the onslaught of whiskey and oak deliciousness the vanilla from the smell can be found if only for a few moments on the finish. The caramel however seems to be lost in a sea of Kentucky's finest.

Mouthfeel: Again like the appearance this beer seems have aspirations of being an Imperial Stout. There is a rich creaminess not often seen in strong ales. The body is fairly full as well. Knocked it down a bit because the carbonation was a bit strong.

Drinkability: To me this stuff tastes like a good whiskey without the kick in the ass. I've sampled it a few times already and I can certainly see myself dropping another $8 on a bottle. At 10% I wouldn't recommend quaffing them though.

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Photo of NittanyBeerFan
4.2/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A: Pours a deep dark hazy brown into a snifter with about 2 cm of head that dissipates quickly to leave a thin film of bubbles on the top. Laces all the way down the glass.

S: Smell is a complex combination of coffee, milk chocolate, and cherry.

T: Taste incorporates all of the elements of the smell, but there is a lot more going on in this beer. The last half of each sip gives you a mild taste of bourbon and warming alcohol. As the beer warms, you can really taste the effects of the oak barreling. The oaky taste also contributes hints of vanilla and butterscotch.

M: Carbonation just slightly more than a stout, and is textured with medium body. The higher ABV makes it difficult for me to believe that you could session it, but my fondness for the style, as well as Kentucky bourbon makes me think that I could have 2 or 3 for sure.

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Photo of smanson56
4.2/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

Poured a dark black color with a thin tan head. Lots of bourbon and vanilla in the nose. The actual taste is less of the bourbon than you got in the nose a great blend of the vanilla and the bourbon comes through. I think my only short fall is the mouth feel is a little thinner than I like to see in a stout of this caliber. All in all a very good stout.

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Photo of carlitos92
4.2/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.25

Had heard comments about this beer all over the map; lots of both love and hate for it, so I was excited to get it as an extra in a trade and see for myself. "2013 Vintage," served cold in a snifter.

A: Dark brown, very much like a cola. Translucent at the edges, and not at all "thick." About 1/8 inch light khaki head which dissipates quickly.

S: Aroma is on the weak side, but full of bourbon and caramel.

M: Mouthfeel here is not bad, just not very memorable. Not too sticky, not too gummy, but not very substantial, either. Unassuming. Would love to see more here. As it warms up, it's close to drinking a warm Dr. Pepper with some bourbon in it.

T: Here, they nailed it. Fantastic bourbon flavor without being boozy. There's some nice vanilla and cola undertones. Slight anise, and cream soda. Veers towards cloyingly sweet when it gets hot, but not over the top. Very strong bourbon finish - but again, more the essence than the whiskey heat. I would never think this was 10% ABV by the taste.

I wanted to hate this beer, but can't, because the flavor is so good. It's thin, and nearly on the wrong side of the tracks in Sweetville, USA - but damn, did they nail the idea of bourbon in a beer.

If they called this a bourbon barrel aged porter or something other than a stout, I suspect there would be a lot more love - and it would be well-deserved. Nice job, New Holland.

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Photo of Monkeyknife
4.2/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a bottle a very dark brown/almost black with a bubbley but sparse tan head. Not much lacing.

Aroma is malty with coffee, chocolate and toffee.

Tastes of sweet oak, roasted malts, dark ripe fruits, coffee, and dark chocolate. The finish is clean. The alcohol well-hidden.

Medium to full mouthfeel, creamy and smooth, and mildly carbonated.

This is an enjoyable sipping beer. I just finished it sitting out on my deck on the first Spring-like day.

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Photo of bigbubba
4.2/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This is a nice dark ale, with a decent light brown head. Looks almost like a coke while pouring. There is a strong smell of dark chocolate. The taste is much more interesting than the smell. Very nice. There is chocolate, raisins, some wine like flavors probably the oak. It is on the sweet side, with no hops obvious. The mouthfeel is good, very smooth and creamy. It goes down way too easy for a 9% beer!

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Photo of BrownNut
4.2/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

2012 vintage served 60 degrees in a tulip.

A - 4.0 - Pours out of the bottle like rootbeer, transparent brown as it falls and with a fizzy head. But once in the glass it's opaque black. A flashlight shined into it reveals an edge of evenly cloudy dirty brown. The head dissipates fairly quickly.

S - 4.0 - A little chocolatey, moist bread doughy, maybe a bit of woodsy booze. Nice.

T - 4.25 - Definitely a wood note, confirmed from the aroma. Some background coffee note. The chocolate, the wood, and a roast quality come together very nicely to make a sum more than their parts. What a nice warm burn of fumes hovering in my throat for a while after swallowing. And that 10% has my face nice and warmed up. I should be clear that I really like warm booziness and have yet to find a beer that's "too hot" as many say here. This one is goldilocks for me. This is the beer you want to drink on a cold winter night.

M - 4.5 - Smooth and velvety. Usually when you pour a thick black motor oil stout, you expect a thick viscous mouthfeel, and when you pour a transparent one like this, you expect a light mouthfeel. But despite its appearance this is easily medium bodied if not a bit north of there.

O - 4.25 - Very good and very enjoyable. This one's a solid keeper. It's just interesting enough to make you want to keep buying it but drinkable enough that it doesn't have to be a special occasion. I really enjoy the notes that the wood adds and really like the nice gentle warm throat burn here in a cold house. This is a sit back and get cozy beer for later at night when things are quiet. If it would just snow in Florida and if I had a fireplace and a leather recliner and a blanket, things would be perfect - you know how it gets so quiet at night when snow thickly blankets everything and nobody's out. That's when I'd drink this.

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Photo of zrab11
4.2/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A- Pours a Nice dark brown/black color with a one finger tan head

S- Has hints of roasted malts, some hints of chocolate and also vanilla

T- Has a very nice stout beginning with some flavors of oak. Has a nice vanilla sweetness in the middle then ends with the roasted malts flavor

M-Medium bodied with nice carbonation

D-Overall this was a nice stout. It was smooth and had some nice flavors going on. Some might think the roasted flavor at the end tastes alittle smokey or burnt but i liked it. Def. try this one even though it hasn't got solid reviews. I don't think its mind blowing but its got good flavor

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Photo of Pray_For_Mojo
4.2/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Poured into a tulip

Appearance: black, void of light except at the very edges when held to light. The head is a light tan 1/2 finger that fades quickly to a lacing.

Aroma: bittersweet chocolate and bourbon. Inviting. It conjures thoughts of flourless chocolate cake.

Flavor: the flavor follows the aroma: flourless chocolate cake. Very little roast, but it is present. No alcoholic heat, but the alcohol is there and you know it. The 11% is very well hidden.

Mouthfeel: medium to medium-heavy. A bit on the heavier side of medium.

Overall: very good. Better than expected. This beer would make for an excellent desert beer. Well balanced.

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Photo of BEERchitect
4.2/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

New Holland may struggle a bit with their IPA recipe and execution, but their stouts have no such issues. As with their Night Tripper, Dragon's Milk delivers silky smooth chocolates with roasty backnotes and a touch of smoke, oak, and even bourbon- whether they meant to or not.

The beer pours with a silky layering effect into the snifter, and does so with the most dense espresso imaginable. With nearly milkshake-like consistency, the nearly black, dark bark-brown hue exudes the notions of roast, chocolate, and smoke. Lightly ingrained carbonation creates a creamy aesthetic, but also relinquishes a dainty tan head that dissolves midway through the session with minimal spotted lace. The beer is best observed through the spectacles of cognac or brandy.

The aromas are spot-on Bourbon Ball Candies made my many of my local Buffalo Trace or Maker's Mark manufacturers. Where they never decry a bourbon infusion, the aromas of chocolate wafers, walnuts, caramel, vanilla, coconut, and bourbony booze rises to the occasion and surplants any dessert at the after dinner party.

Flavors follow with a familiar tone. The direct carryover from scent brings about the dessert-like sweetness of bittersweet chocolates, creamy espresso, heavy cream, coconut, vanilla, caramel, almonds, and that ever present bourbon taste- but with all the taste and none of the burn. Roasted grains contribute light bitterness as do the woody hops, but these only act as slight balancing elements- this beer was never intended to be a balanced stout, but rather a richer and malt-focused taste with the complement of oak. It nails it to perfection!

Silky smooth and malty weighted, the beer projects a full texture and makes no apologies for it. Light on carbonation, the malty weight and sweet alcohols seep into the mouth's surfaces for a full flavor, savory, and labored transition across the palate. But that's ok- the savory, succulent, and velvety textures caress the palate and forgives the lack of dryness with ease. A long linger, well past the ill-faded finish, continues well into the next sip for a very digestive-intended session.

This stout is one of the most celebrated bourbon-flavored stouts that does not confess bourbon barrel aging, but merely oak aging. How dey do dat?

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Photo of Chico1985
4.2/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2010 vintage split by cbutova. (Listed as 10% on the bottle IIRC)

Pours very dark brown with a bubbly beige head. Some flakes of sediment can be seen. Head turns to a good-looking cap and leaves some lacing.

Smell is a bit faint, but enjoyable malts, caramel, dark fruits.

Very good taste. Vanilla, roasted malt, loads of sugary sweetness, definite whiskey and barrel notes. Lots of dark cherry and raisin notes almost give this red wine-type qualities, also some notes of chocolate. Reminds me of a big sweet scotch ale, quite complex.

Pretty thick and malty, booze is there but decently hidden, could use a bit more carbonation.

Extremely sweet with nothing to really help balance it out, which I think will turn many people off, but I thought it had lots of good flavors to make up for it. Aging seems like it could help some but I really enjoyed this fresh.

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Photo of jkaufman
4.2/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured a 22oz. bomber into a tankard.

A: Very dark ruby and opaque; pours with a thick off-white head that quickly thins out, leaves a nice lacing behind.

S: Bourbon, not much else. This is going to be interesting.

T and M: This brew is surprisingly complex. It is moderately carbonated, pleasantly smooth, and well balanced. Despite its foreboding appearance and aroma, the body is on the thin side and finishes a little milky. Alcohol is certainly present and warms the throat, but is mellowed quite a bit by roasted and caramel malts, and obviously bourbon flavors.

D: Definitely not a session ale, but it's fairly easy to finish a bomber.

Recommended.

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Photo of Redwood21
4.2/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: This beer is 9% and for that i suppose the head shouldn't be too amazing but it is pretty good. the head dies off but the off white head and inky black body werve well together

S: There is a vanilla bean and and oak wood character with malt and burnt toast

T: Milk for sure, go figure... but there is more vanilla barrel and somewhat creamy and very smooth. the body is medium in nature hedging towards thick

this is a really good beer, its hard to describe but it is fantastic

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Photo of roadhouse
4.2/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 22 oz. bomber into a snifter.

Appears a very dark brown/black that is basically opague with a one finger tan head that sinks to a skim fairly quickly, however a swirl of the glass brings it right back. Leaves some spotty lacing on the side of the glass.

Aromas of coffee, vanilla, chocolate, caramel, and oak. A bit of alcohol is noticable in the back.

Taste is initially lots of chocolate and coffee roasted flavors with subtle hints of vanilla. It's basically like the aroma but even better than I expected. Towards the end a bourbonish oak flavor comes out (I know, it's not actually aged in Bourbon barrels). There is a slight bitterness towards the end that presents itself as rather earthy in nature, almost piney.

Mouthfeel is medium, I would prefer it to be a bit more full myself, but the smooth creaminess of it makes up for that shortcoming.

Overall I was very impressed with this. Judging by the previous reviews I was expecting something lackluster, but this one is a real winner. Highly recommended.

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Photo of beergoot
4.2/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Deep, mahogany red/brown body with thin but persistent, creamy head. Milk chocolate, mocha, and a slight bourbon nose in the aroma. Coconut, baker's chocolate, booze, and vanilla flavors. Heavy body with a smooth, velvety, thick mouthfeel.

A most impressive tasting stout. The flavors and feel really shine with big, robust character. The malt component creates a deliciously dark treat; sweetness and bitterness all nicely balanced. The relatively high alcohol content is noticeable but doesn't over-ride any of the malt and hop goodness while the bourbon barrel aging greatly adds to the overall character of the beer. Another fine Michigan beer offering...

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Photo of kwjd
4.2/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a deep reddish-brown colour with off-white head. The smell of the oak immediately jumps out at you, which is what you'd expect with an oak aged beer. The taste has lots of the oak, with the roasted malt backing it up. Some chocolate and caramel in the flavour as well. A whiskey loving friend that I shared this bottle with commented that he loved it because it reminded him of a nice scotch, which I'd agree. Very creamy body.

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Photo of montecristo2
4.2/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Served in a small snifter at Mother Murphy's Irish Bistro in Chicago.

Some notes of vanilla very present at the initial taste and at the finish. Malt flavors also present.

Alcohol slightly present, but not overpowering- not too much to influence the taste.

Dark and tasty-a great beer to end the evening.

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Photo of webmanspidey
4.2/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle poured into a snifter. Dark amber/brown color with moderate head. The smell is pretty intense: very alcoholic and sweet with hints of maple syrup and molasses.

Taste continues to be sweet with a very strong oak flavor, one of the few oak aged beers where the flavor has been at the forefront. There's a slight nuttiness to this one as well.

Mouthfeel is medium to heavy with decent amount of carbonation. For a fairly high strength the drinkability does not suffer here.

Pretty good. Worth trying.

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Dragon's Milk from New Holland Brewing Company
89 out of 100 based on 1,431 ratings.
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