Dragon's Milk | New Holland Brewing Company

BA SCORE
89
very good
5,724 Ratings
Dragon's MilkDragon's Milk
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
New Holland Brewing Company
Michigan, United States
newhollandbrew.com

Style: American Double / Imperial Stout

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 11.00%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
A barrel aged Imperial Stout with roasty malt character intermingled with deep vanilla tones, all dancing in an oak bath.

2014 Bottles are 11% ABV
2016 Bottles are 11% ABV

Added by beernut7 on 08-12-2002

BEER STATS
Ratings:
5,724
Reviews:
1,505
Avg:
3.97
pDev:
13.1%
 
 
Wants:
357
Gots:
1,807
For Trade:
43
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Ratings: 5,724 |  Reviews: 1,505
Photo of swizzlenuts
3.7/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

The beer is poured a very deep rich ruby with very little head. The head that is there dissipates rather quickly, leaving only a small ring around the end of the glass. Tons of vanilla and oak come through on the nose, making it a pleasing aroma. A bit of caramel shines through as well.

When taking a drink I get a lot of burnt/roasted sugars with some vanilla and oak notes. The beer is tasty, but perhaps overly sweet. It's not quite cloying, but it's almost there. There isn't a lot of flavours coming through, and there is a slight bit of alcohol. I like the combination of vanilla and burnt/sweet sugar, but it's almost too strong and it needs something else to balance the flavours.

It's decently drinkable. I think the mouthfeel is pretty good though.

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Photo of jale
3.7/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Had on tap at reno's west in Lansing.

A: Pours black with 2 quarters of light brown head.

S: Smell is sherry, carmel malts oak and dark fruits.

T:Oak and booze upfront followed by some burnt sugar. Moves into dark roasted malt and bitter coffee. A hint of vanilla and light dark fruits. Huge oak finish.

M: Thick body.

O: Solid beer but has to much booze when fresh. Better with age from a bottle.

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Photo of mr-jj
3.7/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.75

2015 vintage poured into a snifter from a 12 oz bottle brought out by AMM.

Color is dark brown with a thin khaki head that dissipates quickly. Smell is toasted grain, oak, vanilla and some light bourbon. Taste is roasted malt with dark fruit and vanilla. Mouthfeel is a little thin, with mild carbonation. Overall, it's a very good stout, but doesn't gain much complexity from the barrel.

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Photo of kshankar
3.7/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours black with a thick tan head that has good retention.

Aroma: Vanilla, roasted malts, oak (and a hint of bourbon too)

Taste is roasty, chocolatey and has a hint of vanilla in the finish. The mouthfeel is creamy and fuller bodied, and there is a sharp hit in the finish which I think comes from the bourbon-y oak aging. Drinkability? Actually isn't too bad..but considering the size of the bottle, I think I'll have only one of these.

Overall, its a good beer.

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Photo of Norfawkers
3.7/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

One of the more balanced oak barrel beer. Overall, it's a decent sipping beer that's worth a try (especially if you're a whisky fan)

Appearance: Deep dark brown with a tan head

Smell: Fragrant malt, butter, and a touch of mocha

Taste: Sweet malt, toasted oak, and butter

Mouthfeel: Creamy smooth with a bitter kick

Drinkability: Definitely a sipping beer with its many rich flavors.

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Photo of deereless
3.7/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: Thin head which dropped relatively quick, a little spotting lacing along the interior of the glass, dark brown to black in color - 4.00, S: Oak and vanilla really dominate the aroma profile, there is also a strong sweetness to the nose that reminds me of fudge brownies, within the depths I also pick up some dates or dark raisins - 4.25, T: Significant alcohol burn to the point of almost being harsh, lots of dark chocolates and pureed dates, a little bit acidic and kind of reminds me of a very mild soy sauce, the vanilla that was present on the nose comes through on the palate - 3.50, M: Mouth feel is somewhat thick and creamy - 4.00, D: A good beer that is quite drinkable but there was something that didn't click with me, I generally like the use of oak barrels but I'm not sure that was a benefit to Dragon's Milk - 3.75

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Photo of blitz134
3.71/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Really dark body, garnet highlight when held to the light. Light tan head on top. Voluptuous head 1" thick that reduced slowly leaving thick lacing behind. Good head retention. Strong ales are a unique category, so being a little atypical isn't a fault really. This has everything I'd look for in appearance, even if it might be a little dark.

A little bit of everything in the aroma. Milk chocolate and other toasted malts even bordering on a touch of char. Caramel as well. More malty than hoppy, but some slightly floral hops show though. Kind of porter/stout like overall. Smells nice, but as soon as the head reduces much of the aroma goes away too.

The flavor and mouthfeel area a disappointment to me after the inviting aroma. Mouthfeel is somewhat thin and watery. Flavor doesn't linger for too long as it washes away quickly. I can definately pick out the slightly astringent oaky flavor but I think it covers up a lot of the other stuff in this beer. Some of the dark malts come through, but just barely. Not nearly as complex as the aroma hinted at and its one sided nature with the oak gets a bit old.

Drinkability is okay. For 9% it is hidden away well, but the lack of flavor and weak mouthfeel don't do it for me.

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Photo of madeofsteel
3.71/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

This is my first formal review of any beer, beyond jabbering on about how great or horrid it is, so I decided to pick something familiar. So please, bear with me.

A - Poured into a mug, dark reddish-brown with a thin tan head that disspates quickly, leaving a ringlet behind. Some lacing.

S - Smells like roasted malt, and faint smokiness, probably from the oak. Moderate booze smell sort of detracts from it, however.

T - Almost tastes more like a rauchbier at first, with the oak lending a smoky flavor, with strong hints of whiskey. Finishes beautifully with a more basic stout flavor that is nicely complimented by notes of vanilla. Many of this beer's flavors start show through and balance out as it warms.

M - Light carbonation, with a rather buttery, dry finish. Some heat from the alcohol kind of takes away from it.

O - There's a reason I go back to this beer. Being fond of stouts and most rauchbiers, it's nice to have something with that smoky flavor that has the subtleties that this beer does. I would recommend it to anybody that enjoys stouts or smoked flavors.

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Photo of dertyd
3.71/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of BrianBradley
3.71/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Photo of Gr8ful4Beer
3.71/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of TheSarge
3.71/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

New Holland boasts this beer is their flagship brew of their line, I can genuinely say this is not so. I've had at least one of their other beers and it was better than this, but this isn't too bad.

As far as its appearance goes, it is top notch. I poured this 22oz bomber into a liter glass, and the brew produced about a 4 finger thick head, which lasted for about 10 mikes. The body was nearly jet black with slight reddish hues. Lacing stuck around until the last drop.

Aromas which this brew produced were vanilla sweet with a subtle cocoa fragrance too.

This is a good after dinner brew, but is almost too sweet with no hops character too it. It has a mild smokiness to it to counter the sweetness a bit, but not very balanced in any way.

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Photo of Donco
3.71/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.75

Having tried this for the third time, I'd have to say it is a decent barrel aged stout. However, for the price (outside of MI) it probably does not warrant a higher rating. I don't even consider comparing this to BCBS which to me, is a bourbon barrel aged stout unto itself. So, I would compare this more closely to Fegley's Insidious bourbon barrel aged stout: a more comparable, lower level version of the style. After trying both, I'd recommend getting your hands on the Fegley's first and then the Dragon's Milk. I understand there are many fans of this beer. But I would not buy a 4 pack at the price I paid ($16) again.

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Photo of SQWEAK
3.71/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Great stuff here..

LOOK: Dark tint but not pitch black, like an oil change that went over 2k miles
SMELL: Not so great here in the smells... Kinda sour not tart
TASTE: Good vanilla notes not too strong or sweet, The bourbon I can feel it going down like a slight burn in the belly. good malty blend.
FEEL: Light on the pallet bitter on the tongue feels light on the draw.
OVERALL: top of the list beer, amazing flavor, good body, Strong ABV best poured in goblet

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Photo of dudemuskie
3.71/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Have had this brew many times out and about and finally snagged a sleeper bottle after the Beerhoptacular event this past weekend! Glad I finally get to pour over a glass and have a special moment with this brew! Its a 2010 vintage and I should probably lay this down, but I really felt like havin a big ol' stout so here we go!

Appearance- Pours a very deep brown, nearly opaque, with faint ruby twinkles of light around the edges. A coke-like fizzy brown head quickly rises to about 1.5 fingers and subsides almost immediately to just about no head. Almost looks like a flat coke...

Aroma- Big notes of bright oak, rich bittersweet cocoa, fresh vanilla, and subtle earthy/herbal hops. Slight boozy tang in the nose reminds you this brew tops out at 10%!

Taste- Alcohol is very prominent from start to finish, though many supporting flavors help round it all out starting with a lovely malty sweet/vanilla/oakiness that intensifies into a big oaky and bittersweet cocoa middle. The finish includes more toasty oak and some chewy cocoa, caramel, and vanilla. Strong vein of warming alcohol through it all.

Mouthfeel- Slightly overcarbed fizzy start may mute some of the flavors, but the brew is big enough to still shine through! Chewy malt complexity enhanced by barrel aged contributions, though woodiness may be a bit too fresh in this young vintage. Full bodied, with some earthy hop additions for support, though bitterness perception low. Mod-high residual sugars. Definitely a warming sensation involved with the aftermath of each sip...I suddenly wish that it was snowing outside...

Overall- Very tasty, despite being a bit too young- lots of complexity, though the oakiness still on the verge of being overwhelming. Pretty good drinkability despite it all, but give this another 6ish months and it should mellow out just right and be a knock your socks off brew!

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Photo of BriantheBeerGeek
3.71/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

2013 Vintage.

Appearance: I was surprised to be able to see some light through this. Usually an Imperial Stout, especially a BA one doesn't. Black/Dark Brown with tons of ruby highlights.

Aroma: Dark fruits like raisin, fig, date, plum. Tons of Bourbon, oak and vanilla. Stout characteristics are faint, chocolate, coffee, molasses, licorice.

Taste: Alcohol, bourbon, vanilla, charred oak, fig, raisin, cinnamon, spice, bakers chocolate, corn.

Body: I wanted more. Maybe I'm just used to viscous imperial stouts that use flaked oats.

Overall: This is a really good beer but I was expecting an "Imperial Stout". Then again, nowhere on the bottle does it say "imperial". This is a standard stout aged in Bourbon Barrels.
If you want viscosity look else where.

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Photo of Leiermann
3.71/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of NotAlcoholicJustAHobby
3.71/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

L-The beer pours a dark black with a mocha 2 finger head. Lacing is excellent and the head recedes to a thin film.
S- The bourbon is extremely strong on this one. There is some dark chocolate behind all the bourbon, but it is certainly playing second fiddle here.
T-The bourbon isn't quite as dominant here as it is in the nose. Because of this you get a little more chocolate than the nose. Still not overly complex. Almost no hop bitterness here. Really quite warm in terms of alchohol.
F- Despite the large head and prominent lacing the beer is thinner than I would have expected.
O- While not overtly bad, there are many other better bourbon barrel stouts out there. I probably would not buy this again given other choices.

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Photo of titletown30
3.72/5  rDev -6.3%

Photo of Wegomlegging
3.72/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours black. Black as the night itself. Weak head, but not a big deal for most beers like this. Fantastic flavor, mostly due to balance. Heavy on the malt but just the right amount of bitter, with a all background of sweetness. Well done for not having the alcohol burst through. In fact, I couldn't detect it at all. Obviously alot of work went into crafting this brew. Felt slightly flat in the mouth, but doesn't detract. A very drinkable beer for the scariness factor. Overall I'd recommend this to about anyone, great experience without the standard issue carbon copy hoppiness of most others of this ilk.

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Photo of waldowin
3.72/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Many thanks to Gaisgeil for this beer!

Poured a roasty black, with a light tan head that fades to a small patch quickly.

Smell is heavily of vanilla and oak, has a hint of a bourbon to the finish.

The oak absolutely dominates the taste from start to finish. A bit of vanilla and milk sweetness rise through, with a hint of hop tartness at the very end. Oak is all over.

Carbonation is spot on, and the slightly lactic acidity in the beer leaves your mouth ready for more vanilla sweetness. I'd like to see it a little bit heavier, but I consider the thickest of imperial stouts to be my bread and butter, so I'm a bit biased I suppose.

A tasty beer, to be sure, but the alcohol makes a 22oz bottle a night's beer.
Cheers!

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Photo of deadonhisfeet
3.72/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Served in a snifter. Low carbonation. Extremely dark, but not quite black. Aromas of oak, vanilla, cookie dough, chocolate, and some alcohol. Flavors of cola, toasted malt, and vanilla predominate. There's a little bit of booziness, but not enough to detract from the flavor. Mouthfeel is a bit thin.

I didn't think this was a bad beer. Given the scathing reviews some of my fellow BAs have given it, I wonder if NH hasn't modified it in some way. It's hard to find too much wrong with this beer, but I'll try. For one thing, I didn't particularly care for the cola flavor. Second, at this price I would expect a bit richer flavor. If you haven't tried it this year (2011), give it a whirl.

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Photo of GeezLynn
3.72/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

12 oz bottle poured into a tulip.

A: Black with a brown tint. Ruby color at the bottom of the glass. Sparse white patches of fine bubbles make up the head.

S: Huge oak smell along with chocolate malt and vanilla.

T: Sweet, with oak and chocolate flavors dominating. Vanilla, honey, and prune flavors are apparent to lesser degrees. Finish is medium to long and slightly astringent.

M: Mouthfeel is a little syrupy with low carbonation, well within style. Alcohol burn is quite noticeable.

This was good, but not as good as I remember it from 2-3 years ago. Appropriately named, this was the hottest beer for its Abv (8.5% on bottle) that I have had for awhile. Backing off the oak would improve this beer considerably as it overpowers most of the beer's other qualities. Will have to put some away next time I have the chance and re-review.

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3.72/5  rDev -6.3%

Photo of jermdean
3.72/5  rDev -6.3%

Dragon's Milk from New Holland Brewing Company
3.97 out of 5 based on 5,724 ratings.
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