Dragon's Milk | New Holland Brewing Company

BA SCORE
89
very good
5,700 Ratings
Dragon's MilkDragon's Milk
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
New Holland Brewing Company
Michigan, United States
newhollandbrew.com

Style: American Double / Imperial Stout

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 11.00%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
A barrel aged Imperial Stout with roasty malt character intermingled with deep vanilla tones, all dancing in an oak bath.

2014 Bottles are 11% ABV
2016 Bottles are 11% ABV

Added by beernut7 on 08-12-2002

BEER STATS
Ratings:
5,700
Reviews:
1,497
Avg:
3.98
pDev:
13.07%
 
 
Wants:
350
Gots:
1,798
For Trade:
44
User Ratings & Reviews
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Ratings: 5,700 |  Reviews: 1,497
Photo of Boston_Steve
4/5  rDev +0.5%

Photo of snowmageddon
3.53/5  rDev -11.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Photo of brother_kenneth
3.95/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Photo of rudabegga9
3.5/5  rDev -12.1%

Photo of johnyb
4.25/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of mythaeus
3.75/5  rDev -5.8%

Photo of MbpBugeye
3.47/5  rDev -12.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

A- Not much in the way of a head. The beer is very RIS in appearance. Deep black, opaque body. Small wisps of lacing as the collar of foam around the edge goes down with each sip.

S- Oak barrels are big on the nose. It reminds me of Palo Santo Marron, only each beer is very very different with their own unique oak aromas. Aside from the heavy notes of oak the nose is sweet and alcoholic. There is vanilla and chocolate.

T- This is where this beer deviates from an RIS. Oaky, with slight hits of chocolate and vanilla. Its quite boozy. Some creaminess. Not much in the way of bitterness.

M- Thinner than hoped. Low carbonation. Drying finish.

D- The alcohol packs a punch. Its very noticeable both in taste and feel.

I have had this beer many times. It seems to be better on tap. I have also sampled an 07, 08 and 09 back to back. The 07 was by far the better sample. Age does this beer wonders.

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Photo of Buck89
3.81/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Poured into a snifter. Thick motor oil-like pour with a shy tan head that disappeared quickly. Aromas of smooth bourbon and roasty malt. Taste followed suit, with a strong roasty presence up front followed by oak and bourbon. Thick, sticky finish.

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Photo of zac16125
4/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz bottle poured into a snifter
Vintage 2012

A: Pours an opaque black with just under 1 fingers width of mocha colored head which dissipates down quickly to leaves only an outer ring, that remains throughout the drink.  Some patches of blotchy lacing and alcohol legs can be seen clinging to the edges of the glass.

S: Bouron, with a mix of booze and oak,  dark fruits, interesting tart fruit aroma that's reminiscent of tart apples, a hint of chocolate.  Really unique for the style, with that apple aroma, but I really dig it.  

T: Surprisingly mild, at least initially when most of the flavors come out on the backend and include roasted malts, milk chocolate and oak.  As it warms the flavors become more prominent. The apple like tartness comes out in the taste as well.  Pretty tasty but I would have liked if the flavors as a whole were stronger, or if the bourbon notes from the nose came out in the taste.  

M/D: Medium bodied with an appropriate carbonation.  It certainly would benefit from being thicker.  A touch on the hot side going down, but not too bad,  and all things considered retry damn good drinkability.  

O: This was on of the more unique stouts I have tried in a while, and I quite enjoyed it.  I don't think it's something that would make my regular rotation, but I'd definitely recommend trying it.

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Photo of tourdot
4/5  rDev +0.5%

Photo of RickS95
3.45/5  rDev -13.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Very dark, basically black and somewhat thick in the pour. The head really never forms and that holds it back. You can almost see the alcohol.

My bottle might have been a bit too cold but I didn't pick up much in the nose. Caramel malts, I didn't get the roasted notes, and a splash of vanilla but nothing really stood out.

Wow, you better have on your big boy pants to drink this. AGGRESSIVE is all I can say. The oak barrel presence is glaring. Very malty on the tongue. Vanilla is noticeable. Alcohol is very in your face, especially in the finish.

Too strong for me. I like high ABV and bold beers, but this is too much like a spirit for my liking. A bit of sweetness, then it's all alcohol and heat, particularly in the finish where the burn stays with you for quite a while.

It's a big boy beer. Strong in almost every facet. Not easy to drink and it doesn't go down easily. Like other barrel aged beers, it's so in your face. Feels like the alcohol is much higher than 10.

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Photo of brbrocc
3.5/5  rDev -12.1%

Photo of Sazz9
4/5  rDev +0.5%

Photo of John_Beeryman
4.5/5  rDev +13.1%

Photo of Bosoxfan20
3.04/5  rDev -23.6%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.75

Pretty average at best here. Hoped for much more. Thin look, no quality base beer stands out, overpowered by the barrel character. Not bad, but just expected more having tried the chili version... which is much better

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Photo of zotzot
4.16/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of neenerzig
4.25/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Had this on tap 2 days ago at La Cav Du Vin. Shortly after I got mine, my friend Passow (imaguitargod) killed the keg! Drawn into a goblet. This beer is a dark brown color. Tan head maybe 1/4 inch when first drawn into the glass. Settles fairly quickly to a thin surface layer with a medium sized ring lining the inside of the glass. Sweet malty aromas of chocolate, some coffee and perhaps a bit of vanilla or dark fruit of some type is present here. The taste is also sweet, sort of biscuity and malty with all the aforementioned chocolate, vanilla, and coffee flavors. Very little to no hop bitterness here. Definitely the least hoppy beer of this style I have ever had. This beer reminded me of a lot of milk/sweet stouts I have had. Has a crisp, frothy, and full bodied mouthfeel with moderate to heavy carbonation. Excellent drinkability! A great beer! Too bad it is all tapped out, at least for now, at La Cav Du Vin.

Eric

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Photo of Proteus93
3.67/5  rDev -7.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Had this during a blackout to help pass the time.

A: Black, as they'll be, though against a flashlight, it's more of a very deep ruby or blood red. Tan head, on the shorter side, tops things off

S: Oakiness and coffee aromas, deep toasted malts. Not as much chocolate aromas as some of the style can get, but not bad.

T: Lordy, this is a pretty big punch - especially on the first couple sips. It mellows as it goes, or my palate numbs a little. Burnt malts, a pretty intense oak flavour... maybe a little too heavy on the wood. A bit of peppery alcohol on the finish.

M + D: Full bodied, not reall quite creamy... just a bit heavy feeling. A bit intense, so it should be taken easy. I might prefer it to have some more subtle oak flavours or more complexity, but it still ends up a decent brew. Worth a try.

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Photo of TurboBrew
3.5/5  rDev -12.1%

Photo of Oxymoron
4.05/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Does this beer fall into a style? Imp Milk Stout? Oak Age? American Strong Ale? Whatever you classify it, the pour is a black color, when brownish red hues when held to the light. A tan colored head that was rather light and dissipated quickly. Not much lace to speak of either.

When I poured this beer for the first time, it was too cold. I couldn't get much but after waiting for some time the aroma started coming out more. The most noticeable smell was the bourbon oak esters and vanilla backing. Some lighter malty notes as well as some fig and plum smells are detectable in the background as well.

The taste also changes as the beer warms. While cold, it had a rather limited taste and a lactic quality to it. But once warmed, the true flavors of the beer started coming out. A good malty flavor with bigger chocolate notes and some minor astringent qualms in the back. Some toffee and a touch of sweeter caramel flavors. The oaky flavors are well represented, with lacing of bourbon and vanilla flavors.

The body has a mid to full feel but the oak essence smooths the flavor out. A good, unique beer that boardlines style but put it in any category you want, I'll have another.

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Photo of Schlafly33
3.75/5  rDev -5.8%

Photo of Ultimate
4/5  rDev +0.5%

Photo of krl2112
4.25/5  rDev +6.8%

Photo of jwinship83
3.92/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

22oz bottle with no dating information and a listed ABV of 8.5%

A- A very dark brown body with ruby hints around the edges. small bubbles of carbonation can be seen rushing to the top of the glass. small khaki colored crown of a head

S- immediately, i can tell this was aged in wood. lots of oak-y vanilla. some chocolate, caramel, and a bunch of roasted malt notes as well.

T- once again, the barrel aging comes to the forefront. lots of vanilla and oak. a ton of caramel malt, and some chocolate too. roasted malt is also present.

M- medium bodied with a bit too much carbonation. the alcohol is very well hidden.

D- very easy to finish. its nice to have a beer thats barrel aged on the shelves year round. this is something i wish i would have discovered sooner. cant see myself finishing more than one in a sitting, but its something ill try again sometime soon. the interesting flavor and well hidden ABV work in this ones favor, big time

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Photo of Cubatobaco
3.75/5  rDev -5.8%

Dragon's Milk from New Holland Brewing Company
3.98 out of 5 based on 5,700 ratings.
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