Dragon's Milk | New Holland Brewing Company

BA SCORE
89
very good
5,741 Ratings
Dragon's MilkDragon's Milk
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
New Holland Brewing Company
Michigan, United States
newhollandbrew.com

Style: American Double / Imperial Stout

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 11.00%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
A barrel aged Imperial Stout with roasty malt character intermingled with deep vanilla tones, all dancing in an oak bath.

2014 Bottles are 11% ABV
2016 Bottles are 11% ABV

Added by beernut7 on 08-12-2002

BEER STATS
Ratings:
5,741
Reviews:
1,511
Avg:
3.97
pDev:
13.1%
 
 
Wants:
357
Gots:
1,814
For Trade:
44
User Ratings & Reviews
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Ratings: 5,741 |  Reviews: 1,511
Photo of brother_kenneth
3.95/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Photo of krl2112
4.25/5  rDev +7.1%

Photo of mythaeus
3.75/5  rDev -5.5%

Photo of teromous
4.17/5  rDev +5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

A: It has a chocolaty brown appearance, but completely opaque. Only a thin strip of head remains on the top of the beer, which is an off-white cocoa color. Decent lacing, but nothing special.

S: It has a very strong alcohol scent to it. I pick up a definite oak-like smell to the beer, similar to bourbon. There is a sweet smell to the beer, like dark chocolate cake. That's the best way to put it...it smells like there's a cake in the oven.

T: It tastes really good. There's the oak that I expected, but not too bitter. It works well with the flavor of the beer, which has notes of dark coffee...espresso...some dark chocolate, and just a very rich roasted flavor in general. The only minus, is that I do pick up some alcohol flavor in the beer. It doesn't stick out like a sore thumb, but it nods its head every now and then.

M: It's a very clean beer, and it goes down smooth. It doesn't need to be sipped and is amazing. I can't believe this is a 10.0% beer...it leaves no alcohol burn and there is no unpleasantness!

O: Overall I'd say this is definitely a good beer. I felt that it was perfectly smooth, but it lacked a more "robust" flavor that I get from other American Stouts. It is a very good beer, and I would absolutely buy it again. This is more of a beer for the classic stout or porter lover, and not the fan of huge barleywines or strong bitter stouts. It tastes like a session beer, but certainly doesn't kick like one.

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Photo of rudabegga9
3.5/5  rDev -11.8%

Photo of VaTechPhilly
4.08/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

Photo of Cubatobaco
3.75/5  rDev -5.5%

Photo of Hendry
4/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of MbpBugeye
3.47/5  rDev -12.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

A- Not much in the way of a head. The beer is very RIS in appearance. Deep black, opaque body. Small wisps of lacing as the collar of foam around the edge goes down with each sip.

S- Oak barrels are big on the nose. It reminds me of Palo Santo Marron, only each beer is very very different with their own unique oak aromas. Aside from the heavy notes of oak the nose is sweet and alcoholic. There is vanilla and chocolate.

T- This is where this beer deviates from an RIS. Oaky, with slight hits of chocolate and vanilla. Its quite boozy. Some creaminess. Not much in the way of bitterness.

M- Thinner than hoped. Low carbonation. Drying finish.

D- The alcohol packs a punch. Its very noticeable both in taste and feel.

I have had this beer many times. It seems to be better on tap. I have also sampled an 07, 08 and 09 back to back. The 07 was by far the better sample. Age does this beer wonders.

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Photo of Aisha
3.5/5  rDev -11.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Photo of zac16125
4/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz bottle poured into a snifter
Vintage 2012

A: Pours an opaque black with just under 1 fingers width of mocha colored head which dissipates down quickly to leaves only an outer ring, that remains throughout the drink.  Some patches of blotchy lacing and alcohol legs can be seen clinging to the edges of the glass.

S: Bouron, with a mix of booze and oak,  dark fruits, interesting tart fruit aroma that's reminiscent of tart apples, a hint of chocolate.  Really unique for the style, with that apple aroma, but I really dig it.  

T: Surprisingly mild, at least initially when most of the flavors come out on the backend and include roasted malts, milk chocolate and oak.  As it warms the flavors become more prominent. The apple like tartness comes out in the taste as well.  Pretty tasty but I would have liked if the flavors as a whole were stronger, or if the bourbon notes from the nose came out in the taste.  

M/D: Medium bodied with an appropriate carbonation.  It certainly would benefit from being thicker.  A touch on the hot side going down, but not too bad,  and all things considered retry damn good drinkability.  

O: This was on of the more unique stouts I have tried in a while, and I quite enjoyed it.  I don't think it's something that would make my regular rotation, but I'd definitely recommend trying it.

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Photo of brbrocc
3.5/5  rDev -11.8%

Photo of Sazz9
4/5  rDev +0.8%

Photo of ivegot3Dvision
4.5/5  rDev +13.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Photo of Proteus93
3.67/5  rDev -7.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Had this during a blackout to help pass the time.

A: Black, as they'll be, though against a flashlight, it's more of a very deep ruby or blood red. Tan head, on the shorter side, tops things off

S: Oakiness and coffee aromas, deep toasted malts. Not as much chocolate aromas as some of the style can get, but not bad.

T: Lordy, this is a pretty big punch - especially on the first couple sips. It mellows as it goes, or my palate numbs a little. Burnt malts, a pretty intense oak flavour... maybe a little too heavy on the wood. A bit of peppery alcohol on the finish.

M + D: Full bodied, not reall quite creamy... just a bit heavy feeling. A bit intense, so it should be taken easy. I might prefer it to have some more subtle oak flavours or more complexity, but it still ends up a decent brew. Worth a try.

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Photo of RDW
4.5/5  rDev +13.4%

Photo of Bosoxfan20
3.04/5  rDev -23.4%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.75

Pretty average at best here. Hoped for much more. Thin look, no quality base beer stands out, overpowered by the barrel character. Not bad, but just expected more having tried the chili version... which is much better

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Photo of TurboBrew
3.5/5  rDev -11.8%

Photo of Filabee
3.5/5  rDev -11.8%

Photo of petewheeler
4/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of Oxymoron
4.05/5  rDev +2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Does this beer fall into a style? Imp Milk Stout? Oak Age? American Strong Ale? Whatever you classify it, the pour is a black color, when brownish red hues when held to the light. A tan colored head that was rather light and dissipated quickly. Not much lace to speak of either.

When I poured this beer for the first time, it was too cold. I couldn't get much but after waiting for some time the aroma started coming out more. The most noticeable smell was the bourbon oak esters and vanilla backing. Some lighter malty notes as well as some fig and plum smells are detectable in the background as well.

The taste also changes as the beer warms. While cold, it had a rather limited taste and a lactic quality to it. But once warmed, the true flavors of the beer started coming out. A good malty flavor with bigger chocolate notes and some minor astringent qualms in the back. Some toffee and a touch of sweeter caramel flavors. The oaky flavors are well represented, with lacing of bourbon and vanilla flavors.

The body has a mid to full feel but the oak essence smooths the flavor out. A good, unique beer that boardlines style but put it in any category you want, I'll have another.

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Photo of Schlafly33
3.75/5  rDev -5.5%

Photo of Ultimate
4/5  rDev +0.8%

Photo of SinjaminBentek
3.97/5  rDev 0%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of StormAles
4.41/5  rDev +11.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.25

Dragon's Milk from New Holland Brewing Company
3.97 out of 5 based on 5,741 ratings.
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