Baltic Thunder | Victory Brewing Company - Downingtown

BA SCORE
87
very good
926 Ratings
Baltic ThunderBaltic Thunder
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Victory Brewing Company - Downingtown
Pennsylvania, United States
victorybeer.com

Style: Baltic Porter

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 8.50%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

Added by akorsak on 01-05-2008

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

BEER STATS
Ratings:
926
Reviews:
539
Avg:
3.87
pDev:
11.63%
 
 
Wants:
60
Gots:
55
For Trade:
0
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Photo of Pencible
4.03/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

This poured an opaque cherry black with tan head. It smelled like faint, watery plum and currant with some yeast. It tasted like earthy malt, chocolate, and a bit of cherries. It was slightly thick with no carbonation and had a semi-sweet chocolate aftertaste. Overall this wasn't necessarily a bland beer, but its flavor (and scent) just never grabbed me. At least it was well rounded and easy to drink, and entirely unoffensive.

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Photo of GatorBeerNerd
3.78/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: Pours a nearly opaque black. If you hold it up to the light you can see red tints in the liquid. I wasn't pouring aggressively at all and there was no head whatsoever. There were a few tiny bubbles that came up, but a head was never formed. That is why I knock it down a bit.

S: I can't really pick up much aroma from this one. There is a slight molasses smell and a hint of malt.

T: There is a strong taste of molasses mixed with some dark fruits and malts. It is definitely on the sweet side. There is a good balance of hops that keeps it from being overbearing. The after taste has a bit of a warming effect. The finish is pretty clean with just a slight molasses after taste.

M: This one is definitely full bodied. It is very thick and has a small amount of carbonation when rolled around in the mouth. It has a good but not great in mouth character.

D: The alcohol warming makes you slow down a bit on this one. For such a dark thick beer its relatively drinkable.

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Photo of aforbes10
4.09/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle picked up for me by my dad. Pours dark, almost black but not opaque or murky at all. Short tan head. Rummy, plummy, and chocolate odor. Notes of toffee and vanilla. Smells pretty darn good. Taste is also chocolatey and plummy. Coca-cola and malt flavors and a slight charcoal note. Raisins and vanilla too. Pretty good for the style, becoming fruiter as it warms. Not a massively thick BP, but thick enough. I think its a good interpretation, though it doesnt beat out Sinebrychoff or Okocim, IMO.

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Photo of rallison
3.5/5  rDev -9.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a brownish black with a 1/4 inch head that basically dies.

Smells of dark fruits with possibly a touch of diacetyl (smelled slightly buttery at first but I am not smelling that now).

The taste is decent. Dark fruits mixed with small amounts of roasted malts and some bitterness on the end. A bit acidic. Had I not had other Baltic Porters, this would do alright. However, stacked against the good ones, this is definitely a step or two down.

Mouthfeel and drinkability are both acceptable. Biggest problem is the mouthfeel seems too thin for the style.

Overall, not bad - but I don't see myself coming back to it either.

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Photo of InsolublePancake
4.05/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

A- Deep garnet, dark enough to appear black when not held up to the light. About an inch or so of head formed upon pouring, but didn't stick around long.

S- Dark malts are prominent, but there's not a lot of roasted character here. The aroma is more of dark fruits, like prunes or grapes. It has a little bit of a sweet vinous character to it. Interesting.

T- More fruitiness, with an almost Concord grape-like flavor. There is a bit of a chocolaty flavor at the end, but that is the only sign of any kind of roasted malt here. Some hop bitterness on the finish, but not a whole lot. Still good, though.

M- A little thin, but good carbonation.

D- No hint of the 8.5% ABV. Not a quaffing beer, mind you, but for the style, it's excellent in this department.

Definitely interesting. I haven't had a whole lot of beers in this style, but I've had a few. This one shares characteristics with the others I've had, but isn't really like any of them. I feel like the ones I've had before are more stout-like, whereas this one definitely establishes itself as a porter. It's very good, and I'd definitely have it again. Recommended.

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Photo of Tilley4
4.05/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Big thanks to gkatsoris for sending this one. I won it in his LIF.

Dark brown, almost ruby colored pour with a fairly small tan head..

Aroma of sweet toffee, some sort of dark fruit and perhaps a hint of smokiness... Smells really good...

I thought this was very interesting... Lots of the smell in the taste... Sweet toffee, caramel, sweet dark fruit, a faint hoppiness, some cocoa, and an interesting smoky woody finish. Yep, this hits the spot.

Thanks again to George for this unusual brew. Never had Perkeno's Hammer so I can't compare but hell, this is pretty good.

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Photo of ncvbc
2.82/5  rDev -27.1%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Pours with a thin fizzy tan head that falls to a small ring quick. Opaque brown, not as dark as I'd expected. Smell is somewhat light and not too appealing. Light roast, sweet sugared fruit. Reminds me of a cherry/grape mixed popsicle with some dark malts. Taste isn't much better. Still sweet and fruity but toward the end a decent depth approaches. Good chocolate, caramel, and light touch of coffee. A nice roasty, almost smokey aftertaste. Mouthfeel isn't quite as close to the full side as I'd hoped, either. Actually pretty thin. Average at best overall. Not the greatest take on a Baltic Porter, sorry to say.

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Photo of Kendo
3.63/5  rDev -6.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: From a bomber into a pint glass. Body is black -- dark brown when backlit -- with a quickly-disappearing beige head. Some lacing.

S: Roasted, grainy malt and a general sweet fruitiness.

T: Follows the nose. Fruity again -- cherries and berries. Also roasted malt and a hint of drying, smoky charcoal near the end of the sip.

M: A little lighter than expected, heft-wise. GOod spritziness.

D: Pretty good.

Notes: I've never had Perkuno's Hammer, so I don't know how this matches up. It wasn't bad, but I wasn't overly impressed. Probably won't get it again, especially at $6.49 for a bomber (at Westmere Beverage Ctr in Guilderland) -- I can find porters I like better for less cash.

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Photo of wcudwight
3.99/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Thanks to stopbarking for the bottle.
Dark brown in color with some caramel colored highlights. For the style light shines through at ease. 1/4" light brown head falls rather fast and forms a film on the top.
Much more fruit and toffee aroma than others of the style. I really like the smell.
Nice fruity flavor. Grapes, cherries and muscadines. Toffee flavored backbone. Bitter finish with an alcohol kick. Good flavor but the beer is lacking a body to support the fruitiness and alcohol.
Average mouthfeel as it's a bit thin for the style but doesn't really detract from the overall experience of the beer.
I'm sure this beer has been compared to Perkuno's countless times and yet I'm going to do it again. Nice offering from Victory but I don't think it lives up to Perkuno's Hammer. At least it doesn't live up to what I remember Perkuno's Hammer being. Don't let that discourage you from Baltic Thunder as it's a worthy purchase.

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Photo of AlexJ
4/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Deepest brown with ruby highlights and a thin but persistant beige head.

Aroma is chocolatey and bittersweet. Hints of burnt coffee, toast, and dried fruits. A dry, charred wood note emerges as it warms.

Flavor structure is very similar. Roasty dark grain, cocoa, coffee, raisins, and light camp smoke. Faintly noble hops provide balance.

Body is creamy and rich with a velvety smooth mouthfeel. Quite drinkable despite the richness.

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Photo of seaoflament
2.86/5  rDev -26.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Thanks to tangfoot for sending me this one in the Top 100 BIF.

Enjoy by Dec 31 08 stated on the label.

Pours the a few shades darker than brown sugar crystals and has a good ¾ of an inch of foam.

The aroma is different from other Baltic porters I have had. This one is really nutty with some caramel/toffee, toast, and some hops in the background but something just seems off. I don't get too much fruit. It smells "thin" and gaseous. The aroma is just ok.

The flavor is just all over the place and has a weird buttery aftertaste. Toast is there, toffee, but also what seems like diacetyl which just doesn't go well. The malt taste is also just odd. None of the flavors seem to balance well in this beer. There's a bit of bitterness that wants to come through as coffee or chocolate but neither really holds, they both get run over by the buttery flavor.

Mouth-feel is decent but seems a bit too carbonated because of the lack of balance in the flavor, the malt just doesn't have strength to hold on to the palate.

Color this one disappointing. Either way I'm glad I got to try this one.

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Photo of frazbri
4.2/5  rDev +8.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Victory's Baltic Thunder had a deep, deep brown color; not quite black. The head was mocha colored and dense. Smells had notes of cocoa and charcoal on a deep fruity base. Cocoa, raisin and cola flavors were bound by a full, round bitterness. Body was full with medium carbonation.

Baltic Thunder is solid and sturdy. The expectations were very high, and it may not have met those very high standards. Judge it on its own merits. I liked what I found.

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Photo of ffejherb
4.02/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

22oz. bomber into imperial pint glass on 5/3/08.

A - Cola-colored body with some garnet highlights around the edges and short tan head that quickly receded into some patchy film. Carbonation is pretty vigorous. No lacing to report.

S - Packs quite an earthy aroma with dark fruit reminiscent of prunes, raisins and dried apricots. Hints of chocolate and molasses soon appear. Just a tinge of alcohol emerges after a few deep inhales.

T - Earthy hops and musty yeast flavors mingle with chocolate and dried fruit sweetness.

M - Thick, creamy texture that's slightly viscous. There's just a bit of head from the beefy alcohol content, but not overbearing at all. Finish is dry and just a tad sour. Imparts a warming quality on the palate and, while only slightly bitter, the bitterness actually hangs around for a while. This is quite a full-bodied brew with fairly lively carbonation.

D - This is actually quite drinkable for a Baltic Porter with a big ABV. It's very smooth and goes down easily.

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Photo of Durge
3.82/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

This long awaited brew pours a black/brown with a medium tan head and slick lacing. It brings a thick raisin prune aroma and herbal hops, pretty nice. The flavor comes on with grassy licorice and coffee with a sharp cheddar bite at the back and a dry nip on the tongue. It's drinkable enough for the style. Pretty good but I would have to say it doesn't quite live up to expectations. I do enjoy the sweet and bitter blend which gradually suggests some chocolate highlights. Worthy of recommendation for sure. Thanks Rubby!

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Photo of morebeergood
3.65/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Picked up a 22 oz bottle at Bauer for $5.99. Poured into pint glasses. Dark as molasses color, with a decent sized head and good lacing on the glass. The smell was of roasted coffee. While the beer was cold, the major flavor was coffee. But as it warmed up, a real milk chocolate aspect emerged. Pretty good flavor the whole way down. The body was a bit thin in my opinion for what a baltic porter should be. I would drink this again, but for the same price, there are better baltic porters on the market.

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Photo of Foxman
3.83/5  rDev -1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

It pours a deep, rich mahogany brown with cola ruby margins. A finger of light tan head snaps, crackles, and pops soon away. Spare flares of lacing dissemble along the inside of the glass.

In the aroma, the malt is roasted to a mild char, and coffee and dark fruit come through. Esters are dry and Belgian-esque. Light hop spice and a flicker of alcohol round things out.

Upon sipping, the malt doses amply, and is well roasted to allege black coffee, black cherry, and burnt sugar. A fruitier berry note lurks in the background. Hops appear as a mildly bitter spice note. The alcohol is warm but jigsaws in nicely. Baked biscuit is dried away by residual hops and crisp esters, allowing for a balanced finish. The flavor pretty much makes up for what is a rather sparse aroma in comparison.

Medium bodied, the carbonation is a bit out of character and it thins out too soon.

The flavor is worthwhile, but it's uneven in spots and a little less than a strong overall experience. Really, I was expecting more. Still, even a warm ABV weighs little against a willingly drinkable flavor profile. So I knew Perkuno's Hammer, and this is no Perkuno's Hammer, but hey, without the gaudy expectations it's by no means a disappointment.

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Photo of Traquairlover
3.57/5  rDev -7.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

22-oz bomber poured into pint glasses.

A = Clear but dark oak brown with a tan head made of mostly medium bubbles, dissipated quickly leaving a couple spots on glass and thin laced bubbles on surface.

S = Maple syrup, tree bark, roasted malt balls, light bitterness of a medium dark coffee like Sumatra maybe, I liked the smell a lot immediately after the pour but after the head dissipated, it was not as strong as I would have liked.

T = Dark bittersweet chocolate, alcohol sting on front of tongue, bitterness hit mid-palate like a fine ground coffee, some herbal tastes at the back of the mouth long finish. Complex and enjoyable.

M = Medium to medium heavy body, carbonation is unpleasant when coupled with the alcohol burn, good mouthcoating.

D = This has decent drinkability, but I think it would be vastly improved if the alcohol was lowered a little.

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Photo of gpcollen1
3.81/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

This one pours nice and dark with a half-inch cocoa head into my Carlsberg Imp Pint. Aroma is light and roasty sweet with hints of caramel.

Taste is better than the nose. Hits the mouth with a mild sweetness that grows into a bit of roasted fig and chocolate. Some dark chocolate with a mild bitterness runs through the mouth and down the tongue.

This medium bodied brew is chewy enough and has some nice carbonation. Nothing mind blowing but all around pretty good. I enjoyed this but just nothing over the top good as far as my palate goes.

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Photo of RixBeer
4.32/5  rDev +11.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a dark mahogony with a good sized off cream color head. The head does subside into a thin ring and collection of suds in the middle of the glass.

Smells of toffee and big on the malt. But not huge.

The big surprise here is the taste. A malty sweet bitterness of toffe and a hint of caramelfill the mouth and mostly subside with your swallow. Alcohol virtually un-noticable. A lingering bitterness with a hint of sweetness in the background actually entices for another mouthful.

Thick enough to drink on a cooler day and thin enough to drink in the shade on a spring afternoon. This is one I could drink the bomber. I wouldn't want to drink another. Mostly cause of this temp. outside. In the fall, I would have to say I'd have a few of these.

Bottle says enjoy by Dec. 31st, 2008.

I disagree. Enjoy by sometime on or near Dec. 31st, 2011

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Photo of Wasatch
4/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks goes out to davide169 for this brew.

Pours a nice dark brown/black color, nice carbonation, little fizzy off-white head, minimal sticky lacing follows. The nose is malty, nice little touch of toffee/chocolate/caramel. The taste is sweet on the lips, malty, slight bitterness, with the nice tones of toffee/chocolate/caramel. Medium body. The alcohol is hidden very well with this one. Drinkable, this is a pretty tasty brew, recommended.

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Photo of Zorro
3.88/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Sampled through ClockworkOrange and CA - PA BIF.

Clear deep brown colored beer with lovely ruby color when held up to the light. Medium sized light brown head forms but doesn't last.

Smell is sweet and malty with licorice, grape, fig and chocolate scents. The spicy sensation is from the ethanol but it isn't really peppered to the nose in this case.

The taste starts out sweet and chocolate with a good malt roast after taste, it is quite different from the smell. Malty yet light on the tongue there is a faint mint taste here. Definite Italian Coffee soda flavors here.

Mouthfeel is good.

Quite easy to drink, if it has one flaw the taste could be a bit more complex. Still this is a good beer.

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Photo of sinistrsam
4.42/5  rDev +14.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This poured a very dark brown-black with a foamy tan head and excellent lacing. Hints of red when held up to the light.
Toffee, caramel, chocolate, cofee and even vanilla come across in the nose. Very complex and pleasant.
The taste was bunrt coffee, molasses, caramel and roasted malt. Chocolate and even dark fruits come across as it warms.
The feel was slightly sweeter than I expected based on the bitter coffee taste/smell. The dark fruit and caraml malts balanced the bitter acrid coffee feel nicely. Very well-balanced.
Overall a very good BP and another great brew from Victory.

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Photo of beerphan
4.1/5  rDev +5.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

22oz brown bomber -> english pint
Enjoy by: Dec 31 08 is printed on label

Pours black with deep scarlet highlights in the light. A cocoa puffed deep head recedes to soap suds that leave behind some chunks of droopy lace.

Nose: Some charred chocolate, plum, no getting any hops

Thick creamy slick mouth. Deep roasted flavors. Chocolate malt all over with some intense dark fruit flavors as well as some licorice. Medium bitterness on the finish that leaves the mouth feeling smokey and chocolatey.

Pretty damn tastey porter. I've never had the Hammer, but this is a damn good porter. Glad for the opportunity to taste it. Would love to have a session with this baby.

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Photo of williamherbert
4.05/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Thick dark brown with red highlights. Foamy light brown head. Hints of purple.

Beautiful dark chocolate backed with a bitter dry coffee. Bitter first, then sweet at the end.

Sweeter than expected. Has a dark berry, red wine hit at first. Burst of balanced flavor as it warms. Quite strong; really bursts. Berry sweetness in the aftertaste.

Thick and oily. Chewy. A little burn on the way down. Really strong but full of flavor and balance. A very very nice brew.

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Photo of CoalCellar
2.66/5  rDev -31.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Yuk...Definately not what I was expecting from Victory...A dirty...watery...unremarkable porter.
A: Dark/ some light escapes through. Standard porter clarity.

S: Didn't do anything for me....Average...a little bit of coffie and roasted grain...

T: Watery, roasted bitter grains, a little chocolate....and dirt!

M: Watery...

D: Poor, would not buy this one again. Save your hard earned cash for some of victory's better efforts.

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Baltic Thunder from Victory Brewing Company - Downingtown
3.87 out of 5 based on 926 ratings.
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