Helios (V Saison) | Victory Brewing Company - Downingtown

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Helios  (V Saison)Helios  (V Saison)

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Victory Brewing Company - Downingtown
Pennsylvania, United States

Style: Saison / Farmhouse Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 7.50%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Repackaging of V Saison

Added by ClockworkOrange on 02-06-2009

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Reviews: 451 | Ratings: 1,088
Photo of Overlord
2.66/5  rDev -31.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Pours a light, bright orange. Big white sudsy head. Thanks Chris for giving me a chance to try this.

Smells like....soap. Like medicinal, herbally, slightly floral/funky soap.

And it tastes like ... you guessed it ... soap. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? It's like drinking a herb laced bar of soap.

I could go on and on, but I think I've pretty much summed it up. Some of these Victory experiments are serious misses in my book. One of the few breweries where the regular line-up is better than the "special" stuff.

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Photo of beerman21
2.72/5  rDev -29.5%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Love Siason Ales they've grown to be one of my favorite styles.

Pours a golden unfiltered hue, head was not what I thought it would be. In fact it was next to nothing after a few seconds leaving a thin lace.

Smell, sour Belgian yeast, tropical fruit mix, almost like smelling a funky fruit cup. Pineapple, mango, medicinal type animalistic odors.

Taste was tart, fruity really funky bitter Belgian yeast. Flavor was bit all over the place, not well balanced. Taste buds were really trying to figure this beer out and i couldn't, even after drinking 12oz of it.

Mouthful, i hate to just beat a beer to death but this was a bit watery. Taste lingered but not in a good way. Almost wanted to cleanse my pallet after every other sip.

Love the style, big fan of the brewery; this beer was just not for me. There are other Siason brews out there that are far better.

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Photo of IronCitySteve
2.75/5  rDev -28.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

A: Pours a slightly hazy bright golden color with a thick slightly off-white foam head. There is nice lacing down the side.

S: A nice amount of yeast, wet hay, pepper, pineapples, lemons and orange peel Kind of an odd but inviting mix.

T: Starts off with a kick of citrus and lemons, which is quite nice, but in the middle, it becomes a lemony, yeast soap mixture. It finishes with some more citrus soap flavors and some more yeast.

M: Seemed really thin and with a tad too much carbonation.

O: After the look and smell of this beer, I was quite excited. It was disappointing. I enjoy Saison's a lot but this one did not cut it for me.

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Photo of Ryan011235
2.76/5  rDev -28.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

Poured into an E&J Cask & Cream glass on 4/28/11

Enjoy by December 21, 2011

Hazy, sun-baked goldenrod color. Cloudy at the center. Two finger head rose quickly and fell just the same leaving a thin later of retention. Minimal lace.

The aroma calls to mind pleasant afternoons in the cool of spring meadows, much unlike the weather in Columbus right now. Lemon zest, lemongrass, prairie grass and crisp, fresh apple. Distinct clove note without being overly spicy. Floral and pollen-like.

Whereas the aroma is devoid of any booziness, alcohol hits the palate hard. It's slick and hot for 7.5% abv, unfortunately overshadowing much of the flavor complexities that could be had. Lemon rind, clove, herbs and spices, grass and light fruit notions seem awash in an uncomfortable alcohol solution. Warmth finds the flavors more at ease but they never fully shine against the booze. The finish is abrupt as it it dry, leaving gritty residual bitterness that tastes a bit out of place; grassiness, too. Carbonation is prickly but appropriate to style.

The alcohol really kills this one. Were the abv 2% lower it might be a winner. As is, it's drinkable but I'm not even slightly interested in finishing more than half the bottle; should have waited to split it with someone.

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Photo of tcsparkx
2.8/5  rDev -27.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

It was light and had enough flavor. I picked it up on a whim. Brewing my own was going to work better with the bomber, and I found that trying out other the brews inspired me to make something better...or equal. I was inspired to try out a light brew next batch. Nice on all counts.

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Photo of Crittervision
2.9/5  rDev -24.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 2 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

perhaps im a little too quick to get excited when i hear "wild yeast strain." wasnt sure what i was getting into aside from that.

appearance is filtered yellow-gold. bubbles emanate from the sides of the glass with vigor, not dissimilar to pbr actually. but! tack on a dense pillow of bubbles half an inch tall that shows no signs of disappearing and i guess youve got helios.

smell is saisony (come to find out on here that it is one, yay me), somewhat adjunct (reminiscent of pbr again...), champagney, and sweaty.

taste is dominated by sweaty sock / sticky locker room. eeeeh. think duvel plus unsexy workout plus old lemon. not so hot. no vhs tape.

mouthfeel is heavy, highly carbonated, but pleasant.

drinkability is not so great. sock bad. still manageable.

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Photo of tone77
2.93/5  rDev -24.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Poured from a brown 22 oz. bottle. Has a cloudy golden color with a 1 inch head. Smell is mild, some hints of citrus. Taste is mostly of alcohol, with some yeast flavor. Feels light in the mouth. Not really a beer I could drink to many of. Overall this is a mediocre brew.

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Photo of brewpig
3.06/5  rDev -20.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

drank straight from bomber...

smell is citrus lemon w/maybe some faint hops

mouthfeel is nothing special...can sense the high carbonation though.

first taste was yep a kinda funk like diet mountain dew followed by high carbonation almost like a lemony high carbonated soda.

the first mouthful was really a turnoff but as i continued to drink, it became more tolerable and not too bad at all towards the end.

if you like high carbonated lemon lime clubsoda w/a shot of grain alcohol...youll like it.

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Photo of Buebie
3.06/5  rDev -20.7%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Well this is one deceptive brew. I bought it because I thought it was a summer pale ale, as the label says its an ale. There is no mention of saison on the bottle and I dont really care all that much for the saison style. But now that I look more closely, the large paragraph description on the back of the bottle states its a farmhouse ale. This could have maybe been put onto the front so we actually know what we are buying.

Anyhow, poured from a bomber into a pub glass. A big cola like white head foams up to 3+ inches of head. Quick to recede and leave a collar with no lace trails.
The color is a pisswater yellow, complelty transparent.
Aroma of lemon zest, cracked peppercorns, sunflowers, corriander, earthy hops and some gritty grain aroma.

The taste is well hidden with an overwhelming amount of carbonation bite. Mouthfeel is less then pleasant for me here. Its thin, stinging carbonation and lighter then air.
Taste after the swallow begins to pucker with bitter lemons, spicie hops and a purfume like alcahol solvent flavor.

Not digging this. Probably because I was hopeing it was a pale ale or somthing besides a saison.

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Photo of Wasatch
3.06/5  rDev -20.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Thanks goes out to jwc215 for this one.

22oz. Bomber

Pours a hazy pale yellow color, nice carbonation, nice two-finger foamy white head, with lots of sticky lacing left behind. The nose is malty, with lots of yeast, pepper, licorice, spices. The taste is slightly sweet, malty, yeasty, bitter, with some pepper, licorice, and spices. Medium body. Drinkable, not really liking this one, too hot, peppery, spicy.

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Photo of ocelot2500
3.07/5  rDev -20.5%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Pours a clear golden color with a fizzy white head that leaves little bits of lacing.

Smells of funk, but like a locker room, very earthy and not what I would call pleasant.

Tastes of the funk which then blends into spice and malts. Funk leads off with an earthiness that is more pleasant than the nose. Spices then come through with pepper. This then leads to fruity notes with lemon and a bit of apple that end in a grainy sweetness. Finishes fairly dry.

Mouthfeel is medium with a smooth amount of carbonation.

Overall, this is a decent attempt at a saison, but I find the nose to be quite offensive.

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Photo of kingcrowing
3.08/5  rDev -20.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

22oz bomber poured into an 8oz sampling glass.

Pours a light hazy yellow with a nice fluffy white head. Nose is very funky, bandaids, citrius and fruit.

Taste is funky. It's sweet and tart, hard to explain, it's right on for a saison but there'. A bit of that hop bitterness as well as wet horse blanket. I'd say skip this beer but I'm not a big fan of the style.

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Photo of wowbagger
3.08/5  rDev -20.2%
look: 2 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

Very thin very yellow in appearance, fitting the sun logo and name perfectly. Good amount of hops given how pale it looks. The flavor is almost spicy, and hits the tongue pretty quickly. In the mouth it mellows into a general hops flavor, a tiny hint of sweetness and not much else. It goes down pretty easily too.

Overall impression; a solid beer that doesn't taste as strong as it is but nothing terribly novel or impressive.

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Photo of thekevlarkid
3.1/5  rDev -19.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Out of a bomber this beer was a hazy, golden color with lots and lots of rising carbonation. This translated to a very vigorous head of yellow-tinted foam that was a good three fingers thick and refused to yield over time. The aroma was of crystal malt, pale malt, Belgian yeast, some mustiness, semi-sweet citrus peel and floral hops. The flavors were ...weird?! A blend of citrus peel, spicy hops, musty malt, black pepper, earthy yeast and a very herbal, very bitter finish. All these strong elements might have been desirable if they complimented one another but sadly they seemed to compete. It smelled very farmhouse but tasted very outhouse. Ouch! The mouthfeel was foamy, the body medium and the carbonation medium/high. The off notes I detected and amount of frothy head I saw leads me to believe that this beer was mishandled. I'd like to add as a caveat thusly that one's experience with this beer might likely be better than the bomber I tried.

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Photo of Alieniloquium
3.12/5  rDev -19.2%
look: 5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

650 mL bottle poured into an Allagash chalice. Bottle stamped "Best by 9/29/2012."

Appearance - Golden yellow body. Mostly clear. Nice two to three finger white fluffy head. Great retention. Rings of sticky lace inside the glass. Looks great.

Smell - Light funk with some bready malts. No sourness, despite what I read from other reviews. Metallic undertones throughout the nose, which really detracts. Perhaps it will dissipate as it warms.

Taste - Slight fruit notes at first, but the don't last long against a huge bready malt flavor. Really dominant. Way too much of one type of grain. Light malt overload. The finish is tempered by an earthy hop bitterness that isn't unpleasant. No metallic flavor in the taste.

Mouthfeel - Not light, but certainly not heavy and syrupy. Bitter finish lingers for perhaps too long. I don't know that I'd call it a good mouthfeel, but it isn't bad either.

Overall - Some flavors are good, some flavors are off. Not a drainpour, but not anything I want to drink again.

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Photo of Rifugium
3.13/5  rDev -18.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

First had: ?
Reviewed from a recent tasting on tap at Victory, Downintown, PA

I just wasn't feeling this one. Pale straw-yellow pour, mostly clear, with a fluffy white head that retained well and left lots of lacing on the glass. Mixture of sweet and funky on the nose with a promise of earthiness. Taste was interesting, lightly toasted grains, yeast, musty grass. A little thin overall, and just doesn't deliver what I like in the style. Light body, and fairly drinkable if you like saisons, but not something I'd go for again.

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Photo of haazer
3.16/5  rDev -18.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Bomber poured into a tulip.

A- Loud 'ffft as the cap comes off. Brew makes a frothy, dissipating head, leaving lacing on the sides of the glass. The color of the beef is gold in color with an orange hue. Carbonation reminds me of champagne.

S- Upfront aroma of clove and banana's. A bready Belgian yeast profile. Also some bubblegum characteristics. A hint of black pepper.

T- Flavor includes some bittering hops with a floral character. Theirs some fruity presence of apple, black pepper, and a somewhat stale yeast strain. Some pale malt, blended with wheat and grain.

M- Very lively carbonation on the tongue. The body is light to medium, with a very refreshing crispness to it.

O- It's amazing how palettes change over time. I had this beer several months ago and thought it was great. Now, I feel as though its fairly bland and non-complex as the style can be. If anything, it reminds me of a drie fonteinen oude geuze, accept not aged in barrels or with a wild funk. This is ok, and also one of the cheapest bombers available.

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Photo of rdub
3.2/5  rDev -17.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Hmm. Poured from the 22oz bottle into my fluted pilsner glass. Cloudy bright color, quite nice. Smell and taste were more flowery than funky for me. I like the saison style but for this one couldn't get past the flower petal taste. Mouthfeel was medium-light and easy to drink. Overall not too bad but I like Hennepin better.

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Photo of afksports
3.2/5  rDev -17.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours clear straw, looks pasteurized from the bomber bottle. Decent head, but no lace. Smells of Belgian yeast, water, and a tinge of grassy hops. The malts really aren't that present, but they're almost like a pilsener. In saisons you really want the yeast and spice to carry the beer, but the yeast here is just weak, and the spices are boring.

Victory Helios would be a better drinking beer if it were lower alcohol, so you could ignore the taste. But at 7.5% you want something more than a little spritz of citrus, some water, and grassy hops with sugar-sweet orange that's not even balanced by an interesting set of spices. I can't even think to compare this to Fantome. They just aren't even in the same league.

That said, it does a decent enough job to pair with a spicy meal, and that's all I need it to. I'd give it average marks overall.

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Photo of mstyne
3.23/5  rDev -16.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A bomber from Beverage Mart on NY 66. No dating present.

Caught a whiff right out of the gate and was taken aback -- there was a strong impression of fizzy yellow beer smell! This quickly parted somehow and I was left with a nicer wheat smell. Large, robust head but no lacing.

A sharp wheaty spicy flavor -- do I detect some alcohol burn? It's a big(ger) beer so I guess that could be possible. Ultimately this brew won me over. I'm going to continue to investigate this style and may re-review this one down the road.

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Photo of SLeffler27
3.23/5  rDev -16.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Slightly hazy, deep gold with lots of streaming carbonation and a big, but short lived creamy white head that turns rocky.

Spicy with some barnyard notes and lemon zest. Unfortunately there is also some sulfur and soap.

Flavors follow the nose, however, they are rather astringent and bitter. This beer is okay, but far from what I could call a Saison.

Light to medium body with sharp and astringent alcohol.

Fresh and zesty, this will serve as a lawnmower beer or something to drink while cooking on the barbeque.

Either this was mishandled, or something has gone seriously awry. My recollection of this beer from an earlier, unreviewed tasting was more favorable.

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Photo of impending
3.24/5  rDev -16.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Petaluma Taps into a tulip. Pours a slightly hazed classic light yellow, dense white head, minor lacing.

Aroma is clean, yeasty with citrus and light skinned fruits. No funk of much measure, earthy hops.

Flavor begins with a slight sweetness ends with a slight dryness. Taste is narrow, some citrus but lacks complexity. Light bodied mouthfeel.

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Photo of SmashAdams
3.25/5  rDev -15.8%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

I Found this beer 14 months old and took a chance. There's a lot going on here. The smell is largely funky. The taste is funk and fruity sourness with a touch of spice. Really nice combination of flavors. Very interesting beer but a bit too much funk for me. nb

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Photo of MetalHopHead6
3.26/5  rDev -15.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Victory Helios is light, citric, and sparkly.

It poured light straw with champagne-like cascading bubbles and a short-lived bubbly white head. The smell was like citrus rind and the flavor had an artificial lemony quality. With the sparkly feel, it was similar to a lemony club soda or tonic mixed drink. It was completely light and happy, with none of the musty dark funkiness I like in Farmhouse Ales.

Helios is the type of beer a non-beer drinker might enjoy. It's very pleasant and very bright in appearance, flavor, and look.

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Photo of mirish72
3.28/5  rDev -15%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Picked up a bomber at Charles Street Liquors after an Anna's lunch run. Poured into a goblet, ornagey amber with a citric aroma. Not much in the way of funk, which was really dissapointing. Light body, really citrusy and easy to drink.

Overall I would try it again, especially for the more than reasonable price tag, but I wouldn't recommend this as the saison to try or a great representation of the style.

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Helios (V Saison) from Victory Brewing Company - Downingtown
3.86 out of 5 based on 1,088 ratings.
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