Helios (V Saison) | Victory Brewing Company - Downingtown

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Brewed by:
Victory Brewing Company - Downingtown
Pennsylvania, United States | website

Style: Saison / Farmhouse Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 7.50%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Repackaging of V Saison

Added by ClockworkOrange on 02-06-2009

BEER STATS
Reviews:
450
Ratings:
1,079
Avg:
3.85
pDev:
18.44%
 
 
Wants:
25
Gots:
106
For Trade:
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Photo of ocelot2500
3.07/5  rDev -20.3%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Pours a clear golden color with a fizzy white head that leaves little bits of lacing.

Smells of funk, but like a locker room, very earthy and not what I would call pleasant.

Tastes of the funk which then blends into spice and malts. Funk leads off with an earthiness that is more pleasant than the nose. Spices then come through with pepper. This then leads to fruity notes with lemon and a bit of apple that end in a grainy sweetness. Finishes fairly dry.

Mouthfeel is medium with a smooth amount of carbonation.

Overall, this is a decent attempt at a saison, but I find the nose to be quite offensive.

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Photo of kingcrowing
3.08/5  rDev -20%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

22oz bomber poured into an 8oz sampling glass.

Pours a light hazy yellow with a nice fluffy white head. Nose is very funky, bandaids, citrius and fruit.

Taste is funky. It's sweet and tart, hard to explain, it's right on for a saison but there'. A bit of that hop bitterness as well as wet horse blanket. I'd say skip this beer but I'm not a big fan of the style.

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Photo of wowbagger
3.08/5  rDev -20%
look: 2 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

Very thin very yellow in appearance, fitting the sun logo and name perfectly. Good amount of hops given how pale it looks. The flavor is almost spicy, and hits the tongue pretty quickly. In the mouth it mellows into a general hops flavor, a tiny hint of sweetness and not much else. It goes down pretty easily too.

Overall impression; a solid beer that doesn't taste as strong as it is but nothing terribly novel or impressive.

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Photo of thekevlarkid
3.1/5  rDev -19.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Out of a bomber this beer was a hazy, golden color with lots and lots of rising carbonation. This translated to a very vigorous head of yellow-tinted foam that was a good three fingers thick and refused to yield over time. The aroma was of crystal malt, pale malt, Belgian yeast, some mustiness, semi-sweet citrus peel and floral hops. The flavors were ...weird?! A blend of citrus peel, spicy hops, musty malt, black pepper, earthy yeast and a very herbal, very bitter finish. All these strong elements might have been desirable if they complimented one another but sadly they seemed to compete. It smelled very farmhouse but tasted very outhouse. Ouch! The mouthfeel was foamy, the body medium and the carbonation medium/high. The off notes I detected and amount of frothy head I saw leads me to believe that this beer was mishandled. I'd like to add as a caveat thusly that one's experience with this beer might likely be better than the bomber I tried.

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Photo of Alieniloquium
3.12/5  rDev -19%
look: 5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

650 mL bottle poured into an Allagash chalice. Bottle stamped "Best by 9/29/2012."

Appearance - Golden yellow body. Mostly clear. Nice two to three finger white fluffy head. Great retention. Rings of sticky lace inside the glass. Looks great.

Smell - Light funk with some bready malts. No sourness, despite what I read from other reviews. Metallic undertones throughout the nose, which really detracts. Perhaps it will dissipate as it warms.

Taste - Slight fruit notes at first, but the don't last long against a huge bready malt flavor. Really dominant. Way too much of one type of grain. Light malt overload. The finish is tempered by an earthy hop bitterness that isn't unpleasant. No metallic flavor in the taste.

Mouthfeel - Not light, but certainly not heavy and syrupy. Bitter finish lingers for perhaps too long. I don't know that I'd call it a good mouthfeel, but it isn't bad either.

Overall - Some flavors are good, some flavors are off. Not a drainpour, but not anything I want to drink again.

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Photo of Rifugium
3.13/5  rDev -18.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

First had: ?
Reviewed from a recent tasting on tap at Victory, Downintown, PA

I just wasn't feeling this one. Pale straw-yellow pour, mostly clear, with a fluffy white head that retained well and left lots of lacing on the glass. Mixture of sweet and funky on the nose with a promise of earthiness. Taste was interesting, lightly toasted grains, yeast, musty grass. A little thin overall, and just doesn't deliver what I like in the style. Light body, and fairly drinkable if you like saisons, but not something I'd go for again.

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Photo of haazer
3.16/5  rDev -17.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Bomber poured into a tulip.

A- Loud 'ffft as the cap comes off. Brew makes a frothy, dissipating head, leaving lacing on the sides of the glass. The color of the beef is gold in color with an orange hue. Carbonation reminds me of champagne.

S- Upfront aroma of clove and banana's. A bready Belgian yeast profile. Also some bubblegum characteristics. A hint of black pepper.

T- Flavor includes some bittering hops with a floral character. Theirs some fruity presence of apple, black pepper, and a somewhat stale yeast strain. Some pale malt, blended with wheat and grain.

M- Very lively carbonation on the tongue. The body is light to medium, with a very refreshing crispness to it.

O- It's amazing how palettes change over time. I had this beer several months ago and thought it was great. Now, I feel as though its fairly bland and non-complex as the style can be. If anything, it reminds me of a drie fonteinen oude geuze, accept not aged in barrels or with a wild funk. This is ok, and also one of the cheapest bombers available.

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Photo of rdub
3.2/5  rDev -16.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Hmm. Poured from the 22oz bottle into my fluted pilsner glass. Cloudy bright color, quite nice. Smell and taste were more flowery than funky for me. I like the saison style but for this one couldn't get past the flower petal taste. Mouthfeel was medium-light and easy to drink. Overall not too bad but I like Hennepin better.

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Photo of afksports
3.2/5  rDev -16.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours clear straw, looks pasteurized from the bomber bottle. Decent head, but no lace. Smells of Belgian yeast, water, and a tinge of grassy hops. The malts really aren't that present, but they're almost like a pilsener. In saisons you really want the yeast and spice to carry the beer, but the yeast here is just weak, and the spices are boring.

Victory Helios would be a better drinking beer if it were lower alcohol, so you could ignore the taste. But at 7.5% you want something more than a little spritz of citrus, some water, and grassy hops with sugar-sweet orange that's not even balanced by an interesting set of spices. I can't even think to compare this to Fantome. They just aren't even in the same league.

That said, it does a decent enough job to pair with a spicy meal, and that's all I need it to. I'd give it average marks overall.

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Photo of mstyne
3.23/5  rDev -16.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A bomber from Beverage Mart on NY 66. No dating present.

Caught a whiff right out of the gate and was taken aback -- there was a strong impression of fizzy yellow beer smell! This quickly parted somehow and I was left with a nicer wheat smell. Large, robust head but no lacing.

A sharp wheaty spicy flavor -- do I detect some alcohol burn? It's a big(ger) beer so I guess that could be possible. Ultimately this brew won me over. I'm going to continue to investigate this style and may re-review this one down the road.

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Photo of SLeffler27
3.23/5  rDev -16.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Slightly hazy, deep gold with lots of streaming carbonation and a big, but short lived creamy white head that turns rocky.

Spicy with some barnyard notes and lemon zest. Unfortunately there is also some sulfur and soap.

Flavors follow the nose, however, they are rather astringent and bitter. This beer is okay, but far from what I could call a Saison.

Light to medium body with sharp and astringent alcohol.

Fresh and zesty, this will serve as a lawnmower beer or something to drink while cooking on the barbeque.

Either this was mishandled, or something has gone seriously awry. My recollection of this beer from an earlier, unreviewed tasting was more favorable.

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Photo of impending
3.24/5  rDev -15.8%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Petaluma Taps into a tulip. Pours a slightly hazed classic light yellow, dense white head, minor lacing.

Aroma is clean, yeasty with citrus and light skinned fruits. No funk of much measure, earthy hops.

Flavor begins with a slight sweetness ends with a slight dryness. Taste is narrow, some citrus but lacks complexity. Light bodied mouthfeel.
forgettable
cheers
jd

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Photo of SmashAdams
3.25/5  rDev -15.6%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

I Found this beer 14 months old and took a chance. There's a lot going on here. The smell is largely funky. The taste is funk and fruity sourness with a touch of spice. Really nice combination of flavors. Very interesting beer but a bit too much funk for me. nb

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Photo of MetalHopHead6
3.26/5  rDev -15.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Victory Helios is light, citric, and sparkly.

It poured light straw with champagne-like cascading bubbles and a short-lived bubbly white head. The smell was like citrus rind and the flavor had an artificial lemony quality. With the sparkly feel, it was similar to a lemony club soda or tonic mixed drink. It was completely light and happy, with none of the musty dark funkiness I like in Farmhouse Ales.

Helios is the type of beer a non-beer drinker might enjoy. It's very pleasant and very bright in appearance, flavor, and look.

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Photo of mirish72
3.28/5  rDev -14.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Picked up a bomber at Charles Street Liquors after an Anna's lunch run. Poured into a goblet, ornagey amber with a citric aroma. Not much in the way of funk, which was really dissapointing. Light body, really citrusy and easy to drink.

Overall I would try it again, especially for the more than reasonable price tag, but I wouldn't recommend this as the saison to try or a great representation of the style.

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Photo of TheycallmeTim
3.3/5  rDev -14.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3

Poured from a 750 ml. bottle into a Hennepin flute.

A--Bright burnished bronze head. Looks like a tripel. Head is half a finger of white fizz that dies quickly and does not lace. Nice carbonation, though, as a bubble line trailed upward throughout the tasting.

S--Bouncy apple notes, really juicy sweet and vinegar interplay here. The apple goes from sweet to tart to old cider quickly. That may be because of some must in the back end of the nose. But I didn't really catch much in the way of funk here. The yeast doesn't really sing like it should in this style.

M--Mouth exceeds the nose. Bright and rich at the same time, with a lasting juicy fruit sweetness in the middle that explains the smiling sunburst on the label. There's also considerably more funk in the taste for me--I'm picking up barnyard and wet hay. But the finish is a disaster--some sort of detergent flavor creeps in and lasts as an overlay to a more appropriate drying crispness. I don't get it, but it doesn't get away. Something powdery and ugly is going on here.

M--Mouthfeel's is exceptional: creamy and bubbly. Gives this thing a real champagne-like feel. Drinkability would be better is not for that finish.

Pretty versatile semi-dry saison, but that back end might be an acquired taste. A little like Ralphie in Christmas Story after he says what the fudge.

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Photo of sommersb
3.3/5  rDev -14.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Tasted On: 06-24-2013
Freshness: Not indicated
Packaging: 22 oz. brown bottle, pry-cap
Glassware: Tulip
Purchased: Single from The Bottle Shop, Franklin

Beer is cloudy and golden colored, with a big off-white head. Head retention is good and lacing is impressive.

Aromas have spicy Belgian yeast notes, as well as citrus fruit, namely lemons.

The taste is quite dry, with fruity flavors that remind me of grapes and a white wine. Unfortunately there's also an unpleasant vegetable taste and some astringency.

Mouthfeel is medium bodied with high carbonation levels. Finishes dry with more spices and also the off vegetable taste noted earlier.

This beer intrigued me because it came in at a super low price for a bomber, but unfortunately did not deliver in the taste. Something about it did not set well with my palate and I can't recommend it.

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Photo of taigor
3.3/5  rDev -14.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

On-tap into 14oz glass.

A - Golden color with huge white head. Bartender had to fill up 2 glasses and then combine them into one to get rid of abundance of head. No lacing.

S - Wheat, grass and something tart, possibly strawberries.

T - Tart fruits with aftertaste of grass.

M - Light body with a lot of carbonation.

D - Ok but not great. There is something funky with this beer so one glass is more than enough to enjoy it.

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Photo of mfunk9786
3.31/5  rDev -14%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

This is one I was really looking forward to, and I was disappointed to be let down:

A: Looks beautiful. Nice and golden with a sudsy, rich head. The beer would keep on bubbling up the glass for days if left sitting, it's quite the sight.

S: The familiar (for fans of the brewery) smell of Victory's Belgium-imported yeasts hits the nose, followed by a light lemon pepper smell that finishes with a minty tingle.

T: Here's where things go a bit off the rails for me. The beer is aggressively sour, while it starts off well with light fruity flavor, it finishes with a strong lemon sourness that finishes with an alcohol burn and bitterness that comes out of nowhere, kind of like chewing and swallowing a lemon rind would seem like a good idea until you realize how bitter and off-putting the taste is. What starts off tasting very nice and light finishes as if it's been spiked with a bittering agent to keep people away from it.

M: Nice and carbonated, tingly in the mouth. Very light, like champagne. The aforementioned bitterness drags the score down a bit.

D: Since each sip becomes a bit more of a chore as you drink it, the drinkability isn't all that high. I was quite taken aback by the less desirable qualities of this beer but delighted by its good qualities. Not for everyone, but give it a try and see if it's for you, I would never dissuade anyone from drinking it.

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Photo of chinchill
3.34/5  rDev -13.2%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

22 oz bottle

Pours a hazy golden yellow with a towering off-white head. The head is thick and creamy looking, although of mixed texture. Plenty of lacing is left on the glass.

Smell is very yeasty with a wheat base. Not bad for style but not my cup of tea. For one thing, it makes me think of soap, On the other hand, it had a nice boldness and complexity.

T: much better than expected. Yeast and wheat are central, but with a nice citrusy tartness.

The mouthfeel is also very good, with none of the wateriness sometimes seen in comparable ales.

O: a pleasant surprise given the unappealing aroma.

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Photo of jmerloni
3.35/5  rDev -13%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 1.5

A - A nice strong hazy yellow with good head, lacing, and moderate retention.

S - Yeasty, coriander, anisey, citrusy.

T - Follows the nose almost precisely with some banana flavor that wasn't initially detectable in the nose. Perfectly carbonated and balanced. However, it's pretty rich.

M - Pretty thin and definitely refreshing. I love the mouthfeel of this brew.

D - This is this beer's downfall to me. Too rich; it's flavor is a killer on the tastebuds. On my first sip, I thought this beer was an A+, but I'm nearing my last now and it's going considerably downhill. More suited to 12 oz bottles, but then again, who could drink a 6 of this? But overall, a decent brew.

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Photo of JRed
3.35/5  rDev -13%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pours light golden in body with white frothy head that leaves some attractive lacing. An aroma that is distinctly belgian: burnt sugar, some pepper, lemon zest, floral notes. Tastes of lemon zest, pepper, floral, sour notes, orange rind. Light in body with some feisty carbonation. It's a fine ale but doesn't represent the style as well as other brews do.

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Photo of DrewBrew
3.36/5  rDev -12.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

First Review! Hi Guys and ladies!

So I'm reading the back of the bottle and they say it is orange hued. Compared to bud light sure but pretty much a dark yellow with a big white head. Pour this one slowly. I'm pouring it into a frozen pint glass nice and carefully and I'm getting a lot of head and about 1.5 inches of beer which subsides but leaves a nice fine thin head that persists throughout the whole experience. I see all these comments on lacing and yeah it's got it but who cares so lets get onto the smell. I saw another poster and they were getting hints of band aid. I think that's on the mark and may be a product of this type of yeast. Yeah it's there but don't let that turn you off it's band aid good in a way the smell of gasoline or a new shower curtain is good, am I right? I'm not a fan of the style in general but its better than just drinkable. I just tasted a dash of white pepper and there isn't any in here. There is nothing earthy here, all sky from the big bubbles on the palate to the lemons in the tree with more Meyer sweetness than Eureka sourness. Overall I enjoyed this one even the taste of the belches afterward. I suppose I'll have to get more schooled in this style but I'd grab another one of these especially since the price is so right. I love HopDevil so I'm looking forward to more of Victory's brews

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Photo of tubdog13
3.36/5  rDev -12.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - carbonation like 4th of july fireworks, 1-2" head that is slowly dissipating on my pint glass, lacing, leaves a light trace of head on top, beer is golden and see through

S - first snif I was picking up some lemon, swirled and sniffed again and picked up some barnyard smell (live on Lancaster county, expert at this smell)(should be interesting)

T - not sure exactly what i am tasting, think it is yeast, comes through light and clean with an earthy/grain taste

M - very clean, def a dry brew

D - very drinkable, will save the next one for a summer day

*need to work on temp that beer is served at and what flavors are really coming through

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Photo of GameFreac
3.36/5  rDev -12.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

22. oz bomber - Don't remember if there was a bottling/best by date

Appearance: Pours a nice golden color with a huge 4-5 finger head from the bottle conditioning. Looked almost like a sour.

Smell: Smells like a sour, lemon zest and bread. Also smells a little sweet.

Taste - Tastes tart, with lemon, pepper and sweetness.

Mouthfeel: Lots of carbonation and almost champagne like. Refreshing for the style.

Overall: Very enjoyable beer and good for the price ($4.49).

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Helios (V Saison) from Victory Brewing Company - Downingtown
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