Helios (V Saison) | Victory Brewing Company - Downingtown

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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Victory Brewing Company - Downingtown
Pennsylvania, United States
victorybeer.com

Style: Saison / Farmhouse Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 7.50%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Repackaging of V Saison

Added by ClockworkOrange on 02-06-2009

BEER STATS
Ratings:
1,091
Reviews:
452
Avg:
3.85
pDev:
11.95%
 
 
Wants:
26
Gots:
110
For Trade:
1
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Ratings: 1,091 |  Reviews: 452
Photo of t0rin0
4/5  rDev +3.9%

Photo of nmann08
4/5  rDev +3.9%

Photo of metter98
3.87/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: It poured crystal clear straw yellow in color with just a few bubbles floating on the surface. A very slight amount of carbonation is visible from the rising bubbles.
S: The smell isn't that strong; the nose has aromas of citrus and spices.
T: There are flavors of lemons and pepper along with some hints of apples and yeast. Compared to other saisons, the presence of the underlying malts is more noticeable in the taste.
M: It feels medium-bodied on the palate and there is some dryness in the finish.
D: The beer is refreshing, but not quite as some of the others in this style. However, I would definitely try this beer if I wanted to have a saison on a warm day in the spring or fall.

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Photo of BEERchitect
3.53/5  rDev -8.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Fairly typical of American brewed Belian-style ales, the beer has a segregated ester/spicy balance, unresolved malt character, and lack of genuine Belgian yeast character. But as it goes, the beer fares well in all catagories.

The pour brings about a hazy golden color with a froathy eggshell head. Very solid retention and lace give a very Belgiany appearance although it carries a lot of visual weight due to the subtle carbonation and haze.

Spicy and fruity to the nose, the beer shares lemon, appricot, pineapple, and herbal grasses with white pepper, orange peel, and a light cumin scent. Yeasty brine and sweet scents give the impression of cookie dough or sweet bread dough.

Flavors of tropical fruit and light caramel gives a candied sweet upstart. The zesty lemon fruits bring in a much needed sharpness, zest, and acidity that balances the odd carmel taste in the style. Pineapple, mangos, appricots, and papaya continue to smoothen out the lemon tartness and provide a white wine balance. The beer further develops into a peppery, spicy bit that eventually gives a plastic-like flavor that disrupts the smooth hop bitterness in finish. It seems that with every step forward, there's a step back.

Richer in sweetness and feel early. Cremainess has a hard time making the transition to full dryness in finish. The richness is further aided by the lack of champagne-like effervescence.

Fruitier, sweeter, and misplaced spicy/plastic taste are the main reasons why this beer doesn't compete with classic Belgian versions, but is certainly on par with others make in America.

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Photo of kojevergas
3.69/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

1 pint 6 fl oz brown glass bottle with standard pressure cap served into a N'ice Chouffe stemgoblet in low altitude Los Angeles, California. Reviewed live. Expectations are moderate.

A: Pours a one finger head of slight cream, decent thickness, and fair retention. Colour is a transparent orange-gold. Looks appealing.

Sm: Very yeasty - which I like. Also some bacteria, souring hop quality, and some citrus tones. I'm looking forward to trying this. Aroma is moderate in strength.

T: Nicely citrusy, with some wonderfully handled yeast notes. Some nice hoppy notes are in there too, but are rather subtle and nicely balanced - as is the beer as a whole. A lovely build. Some touches of candied sugar and a bit of cream set the whole thing off with a tingly effect. Quite a nice little beer indeed.

Mf: Tingly, smooth, and wet. A bit too thick but it's forgivable; it probably needs that to cover up the ABV.

Dr: It's very drinkable for the style and ABV. I'd like to try this on draught. This makes me excited to try more beers from Victory in the future.

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Photo of oline73
3.91/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a bottle into a standard pint glass.

Appearance: Pours a clear golden amber color with a finger of thick foamy white head. A layer of head remains throughout the pour and there is some lacing on the glass.

Smell: Spice from the yeast dominates with some hints of sweetness from the grain, citrus, and a slight sour note.

Taste: Initially the Belgian spice dominates. Then comes some citrus and herbal hops along with a slight hint of sourness. There is a blend of the yeast spice and hop bitterness in the finish. Fairly complex.

Mouthfeel: Medium body with smooth carbonation and small bubbles. The finish is quite dry.

Overall: I was pleasantly surprised by this beer. I thought the hops along with the yeast spice went quite nicely. A good offering and something I would have again.

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Photo of Phyl21ca
3.53/5  rDev -8.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle: Poured a hazy golden color ale with a nice thick foamy head with pretty good retention and some lacing. Aroma of rustic ester and sweet malt is quite enjoyable. Taste is also dominated by notes of rustic and floral malt with some sweet notes which may be a tad too sweet for the style. Body is quite full with good bottle conditioning and good carbonation. Well brewed with nice level of complexity but unfortunately it is a bit too sweet and lack some attenuation.

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Photo of WillieThreebiers
3.5/5  rDev -9.1%

Photo of dmorgan310
3.87/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of zestar
3.5/5  rDev -9.1%

Photo of superspak
4.1/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

22 ounce bottle into tulip glass, best before 12/26/2013. Pours moderately hazy deep golden amber color with a 2-3 finger dense and fluffy off white head with great retention, that reduces to a nice cap that lingers. Spotty soapy lacing clings around the glass. Aromas of big perfumy lemon peel, orange zest, pear, apple, wheat, black pepper, clove, floral, grass, herbal, bread, light funk, and yeast earthiness. Damn nice aromas with good complexity and balance of fruity/spicy yeast and malt notes; with good strength. Taste of big lemon peel, orange zest, pear, apple, wheat, clove, black pepper, herbal, grass, floral, bread, light funk, and yeast earthiness. Lingering notes of lemon zest, light fruits, wheat, pepper, clove, grass, herbal, bread, light funk, and yeast earthiness on the finish for a good bit. Damn nice complexity and balance of fruity/spicy yeast and malt flavors; with a great malt/yeast balance and zero cloying flavors after the finish. Medium-high carbonation and medium bodied; with a smooth, crisp, and lightly prickly mouthfeel that is nice. Alcohol is very well hidden with minimal warming present after the finish. Overall this is an excellent saison style! All around great complexity and balance of fruity/spicy yeast and malt flavors; and very smooth and crisp to drink. A very enjoyable offering.

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Photo of mothman
3.75/5  rDev -2.6%

Photo of Boone757
4/5  rDev +3.9%

Photo of Thorpe429
3.5/5  rDev -9.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Reviewed from notes.

Pours light with a whit head. Straw coloring. Nose is citrus, pepper, spice, and some earth. The taste is light and grassy with a bit of flowers. A bit of lemon and pepper as well. Feel is light with high carbonation. A decent attempt, but nothig truly special.

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Photo of nickfl
4.15/5  rDev +7.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Three fingers of white foam on top of a brilliantly clear, golden body. The foam exhibits good retention before settling down to a ring of bubbles and leaving nice lace on the walls of the glass.

S - Musty aroma of wild yeast with notes of soft cheese, acidic pineapple and goat. Some herbal hops and spicy yeast with pepper and lavender.

T - Tangy wheat with some creamy, biscuit like malt up front. Earthy flavors of european hops come in next with lots of wild yeast character. Notes of wet earth and musty attic with a little bit of sour tropical fruit. Finishes with a light note of vanilla and moderate hop bitterness as well as more herbal hops. Lingering spicy notes of hops and yeast with wet fur brett character.

M - Medium-thick body, high carbonation, and a dry finish.

D - I had no idea what to expect from this beer and it turned out to be a pretty weird one. The wild yeast character is intense with a huge nose of musty and very enjoyable funk. The flavor shows some background notes that are reminiscent of a normal saison, but the funk still dominates. Here it is not as pleasantly complex as it is in the nose, but it is still enjoyable. A funky, cheese-like wild beer it is pretty drinkable for something so over the top funky.

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Photo of chinchill
3.34/5  rDev -13.2%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

22 oz bottle

Pours a hazy golden yellow with a towering off-white head. The head is thick and creamy looking, although of mixed texture. Plenty of lacing is left on the glass.

Smell is very yeasty with a wheat base. Not bad for style but not my cup of tea. For one thing, it makes me think of soap, On the other hand, it had a nice boldness and complexity.

T: much better than expected. Yeast and wheat are central, but with a nice citrusy tartness.

The mouthfeel is also very good, with none of the wateriness sometimes seen in comparable ales.

O: a pleasant surprise given the unappealing aroma.

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Photo of jlindros
4.15/5  rDev +7.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Stirred up so all the sediment is dancing about. Not bad for $3.50 bomber.

A: Nice fizzy bottle conditioned head that rises to 3+ fingers and quickly bides back down. A light clowdy haze corrupts what would be a crystal clear view through the golden yellow beverage, that reveals many columns of bubbles rising up.

N: The effervescence of this could be smelled when I cracked the cap, and much so during the pour. A very much saison farmhouse like nose with lots of yeast aromas, earthy gritty like malts, some banana and wheat, and lots of nice tangy sour funk aromas.

T: Starts very funky with tangy sour yeast and wild flavors. A dry gritty earthy malt and wheat taste follows that, but is overpowered greatly by the yeasty tangy sour funk. Bready malt tastes and very earthy farmhouse like tastes as well. A slight fruity flavor gives way to more yeast that does a good job of dryness and funk, but not quite as much as Brett. Some lemon zest and citrus also run rampant through it.

M: Very light with tons of carbonation, buttloads of carbonation. A slight tangy dry burn as well.

F: Very dry, pulling the water out of my tongue and almost giving it a dry singe burn. An almost minty like flavor hides in the background with the fresh dry taste. The sourness doesn't stay too long, but the funky yeasty flavor does. Almost a lemon bread like taste sticking around too. A pretty nice funky farmhouse saison, that gives wild yeast and Brett like qualities, but a little tamer. Still pretty funky though and great for the price.

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Photo of Kurmaraja
3.89/5  rDev +1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of TheManiacalOne
4.17/5  rDev +8.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a 22oz bottle into a tulip glass.

A: The beer is a bright gold color, with a large white head that fades slowly and leaves a thick on the glass.

S: The aroma contains wheat, Belgian yeast, bananas, spices and touches of hops and fruit.

T: The taste starts out with bready flavors of Belgian yeast, wheat and a hearty malt character. Then some mildly sweet flavors of spices, bananas and other fruits quickly follow. The hops presence is mild but complementary. The after-taste is slightly bready and slightly sweet.

M: Smooth and very crisp, medium body, medium carbonation, finish is clean.

D: Tasty, goes down very easily, not too filling, good kick, very good representation of style, this is a nice beer to drink for a long time.

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Photo of ygtbsm94
3.75/5  rDev -2.6%

Photo of mactrail
3.62/5  rDev -6%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Bit of a gusher, so I wouldn't keep this one around too long.

Pale amber in the glass. Head dissipates with some modest carbonation in the mouth. Texture is pleasant, like cheap champagne. Taste is a surprise-- sharp, sourish, intense. Woody and mushroomy. Has that elusive "meaty" flavor of a good Biere de Mars. Very powerful in the nose with maybe a little too much of the Belgian funk. Long aftertaste, rather bitter but just enough kiss of the hops.

Grows on you with more sipping. I let it out of the fridge for an hour so but a little more warming didn't hurt. I;d like to try this again from another batch.

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Photo of Rifugium
3.13/5  rDev -18.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

First had: ?
Reviewed from a recent tasting on tap at Victory, Downintown, PA

I just wasn't feeling this one. Pale straw-yellow pour, mostly clear, with a fluffy white head that retained well and left lots of lacing on the glass. Mixture of sweet and funky on the nose with a promise of earthiness. Taste was interesting, lightly toasted grains, yeast, musty grass. A little thin overall, and just doesn't deliver what I like in the style. Light body, and fairly drinkable if you like saisons, but not something I'd go for again.

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Photo of nathanmiller
3.1/5  rDev -19.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Photo of mendvicdog
3.5/5  rDev -9.1%

Photo of billab914
4.12/5  rDev +7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22oz bottle poured into my Ithaca glass. Golden yellow in color with an active white head rising half an inch above the top of the beer. Pretty good retention and lacing.

The aroma shows a moderate amount of earthy, slightly funky Brett to it. I was a little surprised as I had no idea there was Brett in this beer, but I'm quite happy at how well it works for it. Some bright lemon zest and pale malts are there as well, but the Brett is what keeps drawing my attention.

The taste shows a little more of a crisp, pale fruit component , but the zesty citrus rind still plays a pretty big role. The earthy, slightly funky Brett adds some great depth and complexity to it.

The mouthfeel is on the lighter side with carbonation being above average. Overall I was really impressed with this beer and can't believe it's taken me this long to try it. The Brett was light and not dominating, but really made the beer for me with it's complex flavors. At $3.99 a bomber I thought this was a great value as well. One of the best light and easy drinking beers I've had all summer.

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Helios (V Saison) from Victory Brewing Company - Downingtown
3.85 out of 5 based on 1,091 ratings.
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