Longshot Derf's Secret Alt | Boston Beer Company (Samuel Adams)

Longshot Derf's Secret AltLongshot Derf's Secret Alt
BA SCORE
3.74/5
262 Ratings
Longshot Derf's Secret AltLongshot Derf's Secret Alt
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Boston Beer Company (Samuel Adams)
Massachusetts, United States
samueladams.com

Style: Altbier

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 9.30%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes / Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

Added by AmericanGothic on 03-16-2012

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

BEER STATS
Ranking:
-
Reviews:
133
Ratings:
262
pDev:
12.83%
Bros Score:
3.53
 
 
Wants:
3
Gots:
2
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0
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3.5/5  rDev -6.4%

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2.75/5  rDev -26.5%

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3.75/5  rDev +0.3%

Photo of ryan1788a5
3.34/5  rDev -10.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

reviewed from old notes.
12oz bottle poured into a lager glass.

A: Burnt sienna color, good clarity. Creamy tan head retains well. Foamy lacing.

S: Bready and crusty. Toast. Hints of dark caramel and molasses. Soft grassy and floral hopping. Very clean. Simple and muted nose.

T: Crust. Nutty, brown cocoa. Molasses and caramel. Hints of currant and raspberry. Spicy alcohol. Sweet. Dry herbal hops stay in the background. Nutty, cocoa, caramel finish.

M: Large in body. Thick and chewy. Syrupy. Full and very rich. Low carbonation.

O: A very large beer that sits heavily on the palate. Rather one-dimensional and too simplistic.

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4.48/5  rDev +19.8%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.5

Appearance - caramel brown pour, a sticky light mocha head crests at about a finger. Lots of lacy residue.

Aroma - big, sweet caramel and malt. Reminds me of a barleywine but with more grain presence.

Taste - chewy, robust grains mixed with light citrus and raisiny flavor. A nice twangy syrupy bite, like a tangy orange. Mellow abv warming. Finishes lightly bitter and slowly but increasingly dry. Some delicious Kahlua-like notes as it warms.

Mouthfeel - very smooth for feeling so crisp in the mouth. Big, weighty beer, great fit for this one.

Overall - an ideal fall beer for the fireside, though a few too many will feel like a hammer to the head tomorrow. Too bad there's only two per sixer, I'd by a dozen of these.

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3.25/5  rDev -13.1%

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3.76/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Clear, very dark red beer with a dark beige cap. Good head retention, sticky lacing. Aromas of raisins, figs, malt, dried fruit, faint alcohol and grain. Mostly the same in the flavour, but with low bitterness, a caramel/buttery edge, and a dried fruit/alcohol character in the finish. Slightly dry with soft carbonation, a medium/full body and mild alcohol warmth. Although a little on the plain side, it was a pleasant beer and fruitier than expected -- everything came together quite nicely.

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3.5/5  rDev -6.4%

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3.75/5  rDev +0.3%

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4.5/5  rDev +20.3%

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4.25/5  rDev +13.6%

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3.75/5  rDev +0.3%

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3/5  rDev -19.8%

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3.86/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Sam Adams Longshot : Derf's Secret Alt
Boston Beer Co.

This review is my 1924th, and is dedicated to my grandfather who was born in that year. A Longshot to survive his battles in WWII, he still enjoys a good beer now and then.

LOOK: Pours a cloudy orange color, with a good bit of froth that laces a little then recedes to a ring. This looks the part of an imperial strength Altbier, an unfiltered one at that.

SMELL: Notes of caramelized malts, toasty bread, orange marmalade and some warming alcohol.

TASTE: Fully malty, with a small citrus and warming alcohol. Nutty malts, roast, mild licorice and grains are all detectable. Had a subtle fruity yeast note and a slight vinous quality. Hops lend a citrusy, solidly bitter flavor. Alcohol is felt more than tasted, but lingers around

FEEL: Medium bodied, well carbonated, surprisingly light for the alcohol range. Drinks with some heat, and has a hop/alcohol bite to it which dries it out a bit.

OVERALL: A solid strong lager that drinks smoothly and provides a good kick. The hops are a good touch, but I would have gone with a more noble variety here. Still a fine brew, made broadly in the vein of a strong German Alt. I thought this was a well made version of an Altbier with an American notion of extreme abv that could not be denied.

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3.18/5  rDev -15%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

(Served in a Sam Adams glass)
A- This beer pours a dense glowing garnet body with a light tan head of thick foam that last a good bit.

S- The slight sweet malt aroma has a soft dry hop finish.

T- The toffee note has a slight sweet green nougat hop note in the finish with a fruity hint and sweet malt note lingering. The sweet taste grows cloying as the beer opens.

M- The medium-full mouthfeel is creamy with a tight fizz and a soft alcohol heat warmth.

O- This beer is a bit thick like milk and the melanodin flavor is the strongest malt flavor with not a lot of grain character or hops for the alcohol level.

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3.75/5  rDev +0.3%

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3.5/5  rDev -6.4%

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3.75/5  rDev +0.3%

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4.5/5  rDev +20.3%

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3.5/5  rDev -6.4%

Photo of chefhatt
3.58/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

I poured this into a tulip glass, it has a dark brown color body with a small tan head that quickly laid down to a thin lace. The smell has a very roasted carmal, raisin aroma to it. The taste has a bread, raisin upfront, and a little malt sweet in the middle and finishes with a little bitterness to it. The mouth feel is good and overall is a ok beer. Not one of my favorite styles but i will try it any way.

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4/5  rDev +7%

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4.02/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

"Fred wanted to go big or go home with his homebrew and decided to brew a unique Sticke Alt. This full-bodied ale has a big, malty character balanced by subtle orange and grapefruit notes from the hops. With a light amber color, this brew has a sweet finish." Brewed in the style of an Altbier/Sticke. Available as part of the Samuel Adams Longshot Homebrew competition pack 2012- a one-time brew. Date on bottle is ticked at August 2012. Hopefully the age on this bottle helped settle the flavors out a bit.

Poured from a 12 oz. bottle to a pilsner glass. Served north of 53º Fahrenheit.

(Appearance) Pours a copper brown cream toned head of a frothy consistency. Lacing is thin but consistent. Body color is a deep reddish-brown with mild carbonation and high clarity. Retention is slightly above average, thickening as it settles to a creamy layer. Decent appearance for the style, but just a notch short of my expectations for head quality. 3.75

(Smell) Aroma is sharp notes of bready roasted caramel malts, toffee notes, hints of licorice and molasses, mild spicy husked grains and a subtle but balancing herbal and fruity hop presence. Alcohol presence is quite strong and the overall aroma is very potent. The aroma is just what I'm looking for in terms of strength, gruff and potency and the diversity and balance of the flavors are also substantial for the style. Despite a general lack of grapefruit and orange notes (as per the label), I have very few issues with the way this beer smells and am anxious to see if the flavor matches aromatic first impressions. 4.25

(Taste) Caramel and sweet raisin bread malt front with a medium graininess is balanced with a sweet molasses and mild spicy and floral hop finish. The balance is a notch sweet, not like the aroma but not disappointing. Yeast profile is very bready but also slick and sticky- some notes of clove is an expected German yeast characteristic. Citrus rind and spicy grain bitterness is most prevalent in the finish, which in general is a touch sweet but clean with a nod to spicy licorice and a nip of soothing alcohol. Sweet candied flavors were most prevalent in the mouth, with raisins, dates, thick molasses and licorice leading the way, it's like a trip to a traditional candy store, yet not so overblown by sugary delight. Despite a slight lack in balance and some sharp flavors which would be potentially off-putting to some, it's personally an enjoyable flavor. 4

(Mouthfeel) Medium+ thickness with a slick, bready texture and a low, mild carbonation. Body is medium+ for the style and high overall. Some minor grainy texture doesn't hamper drinkability much, and alcohol, despite being above medium presence in the beer, isn't overpowering and compliments the heavy body well. Carbonation, while limited, is nearly perfect for the style, although I wouldn't mind a touch more spritely action to damper the sweetness, it isn't far off from ideal. 3.75

(Overall) As far as Altbiers and Sticke beers go, this is a solid take on the style. A touch sweet and husky, but the flavors are deep and there's a great amount of yeast character to balance and make this a filling, complex and enjoyable beer. The reviews seem divided, but some age on this bottle didn't hurt a thing. Many thanks to Fred Hessler for crafting this not-so-commonly-available German beer style. It's unfortunate that the citrusy fruits didn't make much of an appearance, but the malt character and yeast did a fine job. I wouldn't suggest that it's necessarily smooth; it's perhaps a touch more abrasive and stocky in alcohol and flavor, but if you like the bold and flavorful German ales, it's certainly worth a try! 4

Boston Beer Company's
Longshot Derf's Secret Alt
4.01/5.00

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Longshot Derf's Secret Alt from Boston Beer Company (Samuel Adams)
Beer rating: 3.74 out of 5 with 262 ratings
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