De Proef Flemish Primitive Wild Ale (Surly Bird) | De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)

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De Proef Flemish Primitive Wild Ale (Surly Bird)De Proef Flemish Primitive Wild Ale (Surly Bird)
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)
Belgium
proefbrouwerij.com

Style: Belgian Strong Pale Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 9.00%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
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Added by Todd on 06-14-2005

BEER STATS
Ratings:
258
Reviews:
111
Avg:
3.99
pDev:
13.03%
 
 
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16
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Photo of MHJeff06
4.5/5  rDev +12.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Photo of Beginner2
4.1/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.25

I shy away from wilds. I fear for getting a sour one that I will have to drink by myself.
But Surly Bird teaches me to be less afraid of wilds as they also can be dry and let malt sweetness in.
This is only my 6th from de Proef, so I'm not going to pass judgment... but this is an interesting ale and, apparently, an even more interesting yeast that keeps giving me these indescribable flavors. So while I will stifle sweeping judgments on de Proef, I'll try to rate Surly Bird.

Looks like a pleasant blonde. Foam hangs around.
Smells intriguing... with yeast indicating it will control (and balance) what goes on.
Tastes like what a great yeast should do: balance malts with spices and let them come and go and let new flavors pop in and out.. Feel eventually gets too dry, overpowers the good impression the ale made.
The solution: have the rest of the bottle with food. And I did. Finish Surly Bird with food.

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Photo of dukeufo
3.5/5  rDev -12.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Photo of ssato27
4.61/5  rDev +15.5%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

Photo of NWHopinator
3.98/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Photo of shelby415
3.84/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of jbaker67
3.75/5  rDev -6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of JakerLou
4.12/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of thepenguin
3.51/5  rDev -12%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

2012 vintage

L: Pours a mostly clear medium gold with chunks of sediment and a billowy head that retains extremely well. Very active carbonation and nice lacing. Carbonation is so lively that it sends the sediment chunks shooting upwards from the bottom of the glass, creating almost a whirlpool effect.

S: Leathery brett off the bat, with some faint mango, honey, and oxidized notes. Some cleaner bretty fruitiness, mild spice and a somewhat soapy character.

T: Pretty rustic and dry – a bit grainy with some nondescript hop bitterness, oxidized cardboard notes and a mild metallic aftertaste. A lot drier and blander than I remember it being fresh.

F: Medium body, active carbonation, mild warmth in the finish.

Thoughts: This beer really dried out over those years in the cellar and lost much of its character.

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Photo of jrob21
3.5/5  rDev -12.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Photo of Kurmaraja
4.25/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Head for days on the pour of this one; creamy white, rocky, meringue like ... extending with structure inches above the glass rim. Smell is earthy, unique - damp seashore, brackish, hay and twine, mushrooms, caramel / toffee maltiness, a bit of lemon, honey, and a difficult to pinpoint fruitiness ... maybe like rotting apples ... the apples that have fallen to the ground around a tree and begun to ferment and decompose in the sun. Flavor is more of the same; a dynamic, earth driven crazy unique beer. This said, I actually feel this would be an incredible food beer, paired with rich fall braised dishes. Creamy medium mouthfeel, not heavy. No alcohol presence and remarkably easy drinking at 9%.

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Photo of joeroma5
3.5/5  rDev -12.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Photo of Eziel
3.5/5  rDev -12.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Photo of JoelClark
3.25/5  rDev -18.5%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Photo of BBelch
4.37/5  rDev +9.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of Faxmesomehalibut
4.17/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Photo of DoubleSimcoe
3.72/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Weird, funky ma non troppo... not quite a sour. Thin body, watery finish but killer drinkability

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Photo of founddrama
3.66/5  rDev -8.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Interesting flavor here. That from the brettanomyces co-fermentation? Definitely reading like Belgian strong golden. (Which it is.)

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Photo of jheezee
3.75/5  rDev -6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of cujocon
3.16/5  rDev -20.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

750ML Brown Bottle $12 State Street Northampton MA
Appearance: Golden with champagne bubbles and Giant Foamy head like meringue
Smell: funk like fruity mushrooms
Flavor: surprise - not at all tart or sour, little to no bitter up front, some in the aftertaste
Like a really mild beer. No alcohol flavor at 9% Not a lot of any flavor except that bitter aftertaste threatening
Overall: 3/5 Incredibly drinkable, like an Intro To Beer class.

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Photo of VTCombi
4.08/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Photo of Monkeyknife
3.98/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Photo of wethorseblanket
4/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of paleoplant
4.31/5  rDev +8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Photo of Pearlstreetbrewingco
4.18/5  rDev +4.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

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De Proef Flemish Primitive Wild Ale (Surly Bird) from De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)
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