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Lozen Boer | De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)

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Brewed by:
De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)

Style: Quadrupel (Quad)

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 10.00%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
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Added by BeerAdvocate on 10-20-2005

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Photo of frankypoo351
1.61/5  rDev -56.7%
look: 2 | smell: 1 | taste: 2 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 1.5

Very cloudy and had an acrid smell as though they fermented it with sugar that was not inverted. Little to no carbonation to hide the unattenuated malt and it gave me a headache very quickly. the flavor is very very flat on the tongue, like watered down brown sugar. I do not understand why this beer is rated as a B+.

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Photo of Tinfang
2.48/5  rDev -33.3%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 2.25 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.25

Found this at one of my usual bottle shops and picked it up without hesitation based on a really pleasant experience with another beer from De Proef. Cellared for six months.

I've read that plastic corks are not harmful, so I didn't take that as a bad sign. Unusually long cork pulled free from the bottle with just the slightest pop, which I now know was not the result of carbonation. No best by date visible, even under close examination, although the cork had some coding.

Smell of sugar, slight bit of alcohol and dried fruit.

This beer was dead flat. Even with a forceful pour I could not raise a head. Very slight lacing that lingered the usual amount for a quad. Hazy tannish ruby through which light passed only when held up to it.

The taste was distinctive and pretty pleasant - sort of like fruitcake overall. The spice was not abrasive, yeast notes, dried fruit, sugar and occasional flashes of alcohol.

Mouthful was watery due to zero carbonation.

Overall - major disappointment. I can't say that I know what this beer is supposed to taste like. The cork (pork? for plastic cork) clearly made a good seal so I don't think it lost carbonation, I think secondary fermentation never happened. Bottom of the bottle had an unusually thick black layer of solids that mostly resisted swirling the last centiliter and did not have the expected taste of a yeast sediment.

De Proef's website portrays a company seriously dedicated to brewing, and the lineup of products is formidable especially given their intent to produce limited batches. I really liked Boerinneken and would pay a premium to get more of it, which makes this experience even more of a loss.

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Photo of b_sid
2.54/5  rDev -31.7%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 2

Let's start with the most obvious issue here. This beer is flat. Dead flat. Like a 2 liter of soda flat, that's been opened numerous times and stuck in the back of the fridge for you to unfortunately come across when your totally craving a fizzy thirst quenching beverage.

Anyway, it's hard to review something that's so off from the start. I love Belgian beers, and I was really hoping for something special here (it even says Brewers Reserve on the bottle), but it was not to be. Immediately after pulling out the cork you could tell something was off. No pressure. No champagne bottle pop. Actually, no pop whatsoever. Barely even a hiss. OK... but there were subtle bubbles forming after the pour, so initially thought, "OK, well at least we have some life here." Kinda wrong there. No life, just dead beer (and it had so much potential).

The beer actually smells great, and leads you on to thinking this may still actually be amazing. The aroma reminds of a nice Barley Wine with a strong fruit character, but that's where the promise ends. The flavor (while initially hopeful) is actually quite disappointing. It's brevity is unmatched (not a good thing). Since it lacks any carbonation, the flavor lasts for a nanosecond, followed by burning, which if you're drinking a nice whiskey is great, but not here. Not at all.

It's actually quite amazing that I've even devoted this much to review this beer. Probably cause there was so much anticipation of greatness, followed by unprecedented weakness. Maybe it's the plastic "cork" they used here. Maybe if they used a real cork the beer could have actually developed and kept (or begun to develop) it's carbonation. Cause underneath the overwhelming lack of carbonation there is an exceptional beer lurking, but unfortunately it's just not here.

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Photo of dieBlume
2.64/5  rDev -29%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

S: Served in a chalice from a 750ml bottle.

A: No foam, no lacing, no carbonation. The beer itself was dark brown in color.

S: Very boozey, chocolatey, and fruity.

T: Overwhelmingly alcoholic, which would have been fine if it has some sort of carbonation. Tasted like a thinned out chocolate with darker fruits infused.

M: Flat, a bit off - reminded me of a liquid candy bar.

O: I was really excited to try this, but it was certainly a letdown.

I was told by two people at the shop where it was bought that it was a good beer. When it was opened, I was already disappointed. No typical pop when opened - we then knew SOMETHING had to be wrong. I'm just thankful that my boyfriend doesn't mind flat beers...

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Photo of ypsifly
2.73/5  rDev -26.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

750 that is corked and caged with 10/05/09 jetted on the side of the cork. Purchased at Merchant's in Dearborn and poured into a Val-Dieu chalice.

Not much of a pop when the cork was pulled, but it did produce a nice head of light tan that rose to the top of the glass and slowly fell to a layer of foam bounded by a fat ring that left lots of wispy lace as it went down. The beer is deep dark brown to almost black with reddish edges.

Dark fruits and sugars with some chalk and a bit of musty cellar aroma. Faint hint of alcohol hides in the back. Not very strong smelling or complex overall, but not bad.

Malt with some dark cherry upfront that turns acidic and grows hot with alcohol. Its actually rough and leaves a sharp alcohol and acid aftertaste. This needs to sit at least a couple years.

The mouth starts off full and smooth but the obvious abv and acidic flavors cut right through all that. I am not impressed but would consider buying another bottle just to see if time can indeed heal all wounds.

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Photo of zachary80
2.96/5  rDev -20.4%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Cellared for 10 months. Poured into a Globe. Cork opens with a really really weak pop.

Dark brown, some reddish highlights, looks good. No real head, some whitish bubbles that persist; not normal for a quad.

Aroma is fruity and complex. One of the better smelling quads, reminiscent of La Trappe.

Flavor is a let down. Starts off tasty - follows the aroma, finishes pretty bad, tastes more like a liquor, and the finish is extremely short. Reminds me of bad alcohol flavors, big turn off.

Carbonation is too low, mouthfeel is off.

Overall I like the smell and taste but the alcohol is harsh and I think its negative side is combining with another character in the beer that I'm not fond of. Perhaps its very oxidized, although it is less than a year since purchase and doesn't have as much of the cardboard type taste. (Might be worth noting that I shared a Baller Stout earlier in the evening...and its 13.8% didn't show half as much as this beer's 10%)

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Photo of WetCoaster
3.15/5  rDev -15.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

Appearance: Hmmm. A cherry amber not unlike Bigfoot Ale. Clear, with a massive manila head. Great retention, eventually breaks down to berg floating atop a sea of skim. Good lacing.

Smell: Dense, sweet wall of sticky caramel malts, buttered toffee, cherry, pine and wine grapes. Again, sort of like Bigfoot.

Taste: Wow, not what you might expect. As was mentioned earlier, it's definitely got a saturated malty, piney, butterscotch barleywine base. Add to that wine; not vinous notes, but an actual cabernet. Finishes with an almost tannin sourness -- this is quite odd. The problem here is they don't really blend, you start out with a west coast barleywine and finish with a Bordeaux. Mouthfeel is OK, a bit thin and with more bite than I might like.

Drinkability: Well it's pricey,10 percent and it's a bit of an oddball to boot -- gonna take a special person to enjoy this one. I'm one and done with this.

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Photo of barleywinefiend
3.15/5  rDev -15.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A: Poured a cola color with lower carbonation than I expected. Left a small white cap, minimal lacing and some white bubbles

S: I get cola, caramel with some caramelized sugar, toffee and some dark fruits on the nose

T: Taste has an immediate caramel, light candy sugar with some dark fruits, toffee, more caramel and cola midway to finish with some underlying booze. The taste falls flat on the end leaving only a sweetness with booze and sticky flat and bitter taste.

M: Rather thin, plain and medium bodied. Not what I was wanting nor expecting

O: Average

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Photo of maxpower
3.15/5  rDev -15.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

750 ml corked and caged bottle pours a cloudy reddish brown color with a creamy light brown head that leaves a sticky lacing in my glass. Fruity raisin and grape aromas, caramel, plum and brown sugar flavors, alcohol shows as it warms. Full bodied with a soft and full mouthfeel, finishes sweet.

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Photo of GClarkage
3.3/5  rDev -11.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

05/09/06- Purchased at Ledger's Liquors in Berkeley, CA.

Presentation- 750ml bottle, both caged and corked. No freshness info on the bottle. Poured into my Duvel tulip.

Appearance- Muddy brown colored pour. Large foamy head forms to the top of the tulip (1.5 inches?) Very large bubbled. Lacing is above average.

Smell- Scent kind reminds me of an English Barleywine. Has the milk chocolate scent with some sweet caramel malt and maybe even some butterscotch.

Taste- Flavor also reminds me of a barleywine. It's rather harsh though. Needs to rest I think. The alcohol comes through in a kind of a cough sryup harshenss, though not thick and sryupy, just has that flavor. Maybe a bit of cherry to remind a bit like Three Philosophers.

Mouthfeel- More carbonation than would like in any style this high in abv.

Drinkability- Not one again that I would pick up...no matter what style it is. Plus at $9.99 it was not a bargain. Not bad, but just below average.

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Photo of kkipple
3.32/5  rDev -10.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Decent Quadrupel, not great. Normal brown-red color, clear, little bits of sediment. Lighter in color that most quads. No big deal. Small head, no real lace.

Smell is the best thing going here, lots of sweet sugary, musty malt character and dark fruit. Boozy, but not too hot, figs, dates, prunes, a little clove-apple. Singled caramel and cocoa. Smells dessert-like and rich.

Taste falters; when this isn't by-the-numbers it isn't what I like. Sweet, yes, dark esters, yes, booze, yes. There's a strange yeasty-dry thing going on here that's not very appealing, as well as a weird walnut-attic must that is overbearing. Spicy and rather dry... hm. Finish is slightly buttery and sour -- not good. Which is a shame 'cause I really wanted to like this one.

Mouthfeel is medium full with adequate and unsurprising levels of carbonation. An unpleasant, slightly astringent (walnuts again) finish hurts this one. I'm not pouring it out, but I wouldn't buy it, either.

Ultimately, Lozen Boer is simply okay. Worth a shot if you like Quads; this may be up your aisle. But with brewers like St. Bernardus and Rochefort around, I don't see a reason to visit it again.

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Photo of ChainGangGuy
3.35/5  rDev -9.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Appearance: Pours a cloudy, dark copper body with a full, cream off-white head.

Smell: Aroma of light caramel, dark fruits (figs, mostly), a little chocolate, and a half jigger of sherry.

Taste: Flavor begins sweet with caramel and dried dark fruit flavors and finishes warming and metallic with some yeasty spiciness.

Mouthfeel: Medium-bodied. Medium carbonation.

Drinkability: I found it to be woefully average for a Quad, but kudos are in order for hiding the alcohol so well.

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Photo of ArrogantB
3.36/5  rDev -9.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

750ml bottle $12. Dark brown color, red tints, so-so head. Smells like alcohol, raisins, not sure if its more dubbel or quad. The taste was kind of underwhelming, more raisins, sweetness, alcohol. I usually like De proef beers but to be honest I was a little let down by this one in particular.

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Photo of yelterdow
3.41/5  rDev -8.3%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Cellared for about three years, I'll bring this one last bottle from the late Michael Jackson Rare Beer Club upstairs and into my Chimay chalice. Served at cellar temperature with a hunk of Stilton cheese, this bottle was obtained on December 21, 2005, with the drink by date lasered on the cork: 10/05/09. Here goes!

Appearance- Gorgeous beer right from the start... it pours a Burgundian purplish-red with an immediate and extremely fat light beige head, settling to a marshmallowy topper. The lacing is incredible, sticking and draping almost unbroken down the inside of the glass. Off the charts on the eyes!

Smell- The dark, sweet fruit aromas of plum, fig, prune, and date are about as rich and decadent as any beer I've yet sampled. Drippy, soaking wet ripened fruits with a hint of cola are in abundance, as well as just an indication of alcohol.

Taste- First, the interesting notes of cola that I mentioned before come up again, displaying caramel and sugars first and then a rich, honey-infused malt backbone that finally concedes to a drying hop finish. The only real problem I have with this beer is the lack of lush character I would expect from a cellar aged Quadrupel, it falls a bit short on complexity. At 10% ABV, this could be sublime drinking right now.

Mouthfeel/Drinkability- Unfortunately, this beer's decent texture doesn't effectively promote the fruity, malt-driven flavors to the point where I'd care for this again. There is something missing overall, a thinness that needs body and more character. I'm glad to have sampled this, and it was in part to Michael Jackson's passion for Belgian beers that brought this particular bottle to me in the first place.

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Photo of SkeeterHawk
3.44/5  rDev -7.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 3.5

I've been doing quite a few of the De Proef beers here lately, so here is another one, which is one of their bigger ones, so hopefully this will be a treat. Let's see:

Appearance: I carefully removed the cork, but I had to pull it out rather than holding it back. There was very little foam after a pretty aggressive pour for this style of beer (right down the center of my tulip). There are some bubbles rising as you can see at the edge of the glass, but they don't stick at the top. The beer itself is very dark, but you can tell that it may lend a Garnet color if you hold it up to intense enough light. I can't remark on the clarity.

Aroma: Lots of fruity notes going on in here with plums and raisins being the most noticeable. There are some yeasty notes in this beer that are a pretty big player, but there is some dark caramel to toffee in here to support the whole thing. Overall, it is a pretty bold aroma, but there is nothing that seems overly dominant at this point in time.

Taste: The flavor is also fruity like the aroma suggested, but it is thinner and more palatable than I thought it would be. The carbonation is super low in this beer, and it is actually showing subtle signs of oxidation with some sherry and paper notes, but these aren't screwing the beer up yet. The finish is sweet with far too little carbonation to back it up, but the balance is pretty good overall with the dark malts providing as much balance as any hops are.

Opinion: This beer was really hurt by the lack of carbonation. I assume that the "cork" just leaked, but it was a plastic cork that didn't do a whole lot of expanding even after it was pulled out, so it looks like it didn't try very hard. I am not a fan of the plastic corks, so perhaps their decision to go with these corks hurt them on this review as the lack of carbonation is the major draw-back on this beer. I would try it again, but I am not sure if it will be me buying it. Perhaps I will come across a more presentable sample at a beer meeting coming up or something.

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Photo of froghop
3.5/5  rDev -5.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

pours a clear dark brown with a small dark beige head, and some lacing.

smell is of caramel, some malt, some dark fruit, and a little spice.

taste is of dark fruit, cocoa, some sour malt, white pepper, and spice, ends a little dry and somewhat bitter.

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Photo of RoyalT
3.53/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance – This one poured a dingy orangish-brown with a good, off-white head that kind of surprised me because the cork came out without the least bit of “pop”.

Smell – This Quad still has a stiff darkish malt base. There’s some Belgian yeast in there along with some dark fruits, especially raisins and dates, but not the big fruity explosion that you get with some examples of the style. The nose is still kind of tight, even after the ale warms.

Taste – The taste opens up a bit more. There’s a strong bitterness to the malts that I enjoy but may surprise those seeking the typical style standard. The sweets actually step back from the nose. The yeast is solid but the booze is somewhat harsh. Not burning, but definitely in your face.

Mouthfeel – This really isn’t much over medium-bodied and the bitter dryness almost felt kind of hoppy. I enjoyed the mild but efficient carbonation though.

Drinkability – This ale was a good drinker. But, I gotta say, when I think of Quads I think of greatness, and in that sense it missed the mark.

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Photo of Vixie
3.53/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a very dark brown, a bit cola like. Forms a fairly decent sized tan head that sticks around for a time.

Lot of sweetness in the smell, seems mainly brown sugar, caramel, and Belgian candy sugar.

Fairly sweet up front, almost cola like in flavor. There is caramel, toffee, and candy sugar as well. It finishes a bit try with an earthy character, and some warming.

Bit thin for the style, although fairly smooth.

Not a bad beer by any stretch, but also nothing outstanding about it either. If you like a more earthy beer, this will fit your taste, but I wanted a bit more fruit flavors. Glad I tried it, but not my favorite quad.

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Photo of ChillMike
3.53/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours an almost completely opaque dark amber color with a massive tan head that sticks and leaves a nice coating of lacing around the glass. A nice smell of malts that remind me of fresh Vermont maple syrup, lots of pleasant smelling spices, and a nice mild hop smell. Bitter hop taste sticks around in the mouth while also a bit of malts, not really enjoying the taste all that much, the smell doesn't match the taste at all. However the beer does have the feel down, the carbonation is pretty good and it's just "thick" enough. Overall I'm not sure I care too much for this one maybe it's the strong presence of alcohol that is noticeable at any rate, it's not a bad beer, just not my type.

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Photo of DogFood11
3.55/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

750ml brown bottle corked and caged. Poured into a chalice it has an easily managed tan head. Body is a murky brown color.

Alcohol is strong and in the forefront. Suggestions of dark fruits and a bitter end to this make it stand out. Mild spices do more for the mouthfeel than the flavor profile but welcomed none the less. Not as thick as some and for the style I'd call this fairly light. Bakers chocolate lingers beneath the main flavors and there is also a mild suggestion of black liquorice. Nice spritzy carbonation fits well as it cuts through the large body.

Notes: I thought it was pretty good overall. A damn tough style to be considered elite and this doesn't sniff that area. Rather its a middle of the road type quad that was worthy of a try.

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Photo of Wildman
3.56/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

This beer poured a very deep ruby red color and formed a bubbly light tan head that coated the glass with lace as it subsided. A small amount of carbonation is present. A light aroma of malt, black cherries and chocolate. The flavor was of malt and chocolat. The body was fairly light for the style and not much really present in the finish expect the alcohol. Not a bad beer, but not impressive for a quad.

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Photo of mexikrainian
3.57/5  rDev -4%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

750ml poured into a Petrus chalice.

Appearance: murky brown with short-lived off white head and minimal lacing.

Aroma: overwhelming sweet malts, cherries and nutty.

Taste: a bit sour, lacking dry finish and watered down

Mouthfeel: creamy medium body with light carbonation.

Overall impression: a lackluster quadrupel. thin and flat, this is worth a try, but average for the style.

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Photo of scruffwhor
3.57/5  rDev -4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a rather murky brown, rust, amber color with a rather quick head. some scattered lacing. The aroma is a little phenolic ut still a good brown sugary sweetness. The taste retains that brown sugar sweetnes in the nose. Plus some other oddbals sweets that I can't seem to define right now. But the flavors don't seem as complex as a quadrupels should be. Seems like its lacking some effort in recipe construction. The alcohol was well incorporated in the palate for the nice warming effect.

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Photo of drpimento
3.58/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Got this bottle from Sam's in Chicago. This is one of the weaker quads we've ever had. Thinner body. Good tan head. Aroma was similar but lighter in every respect. Just less of everything. Quad that should be aspiring to dubble. Little bit boozy. Finish is ok. Not a session

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Photo of MrHungryMonkey
3.6/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Nose is malty with some sour and some dark fruit, some powdery yeast, and a small funky twang. Smells good.

Pours a deep mahogany / nut brown color, good clarity, mild head. Beautiful color. Looks good.

Glass 1 pours a deep mahogany / nut brown color with good clarity and a mild head; the color is pristine, it looks good. Nose is malty with some sour and some dark fruit, some powdery yeast, and a small funky twang; smells good. First sip brings an overbearing barrage of mouthfeel - it's nicely tart with an oily coating and some sharp alcohol. Sparsely populated bubbles on my tongue cause pain. Some dark roasted malt manifests, and hints of sugary sweetness. Just where the yeasty mouthfeel ends and the yeast flavors begin is as of yet unclear. A soft medicinal/plastic white noise sits on the threshold of my flavor differentiation.

Glass 2 brings a much better head, but retention is still 20 seconds or so. The medicinal/plastic white noise is louder, accompanied now by alcohol heat. I found some mild funkiness and fruitiness with hints of lemongrass, flowers, earth, and dark, ripe fruit. The intense tartness from the first sips has died down leaving behind a terrestrial fruity tartness. Soft sweetness reminds me of honey. The alcohol has now reached my brain bringing soothing warmth and a poetic urges.

Glass 3 has the most impressive head of all; all those nucleation sites from the lacing I reckon. Still a pretty quick 20-30 seconds retention. Whiff of banana and some other unworldly fruity ester. It still has the droning medicinal/plastic thing going on. The flavor is hard to pin down, hard to reach. It's there, and I can taste it (obviously, no?), but it does taste like white noise sounds. Can one describe the white noise of a crowd of people? Not other than an unknown sized set of voices within the range of human speech. Can one describe the white noise of an electrical room or bank of transformers? Again, not other than the combination of the frequencies of each vibrating part. So this beer, like a crowd of people or bank of transformers, has a definite taste, but without sending a sample to a lab, all I can say is that it tastes like a combination of medicinal/plastic yeastiness, dark fruit, tart fruit/floralness, and roasted malt, the emphasis being on the yeast.

A strong Abbey Ale, Lozen Boer is like an awkward young animal whose feet are too big; I'd put money on improvements with age. It's stiff, it's rough, and it's loud. If you enjoy getting kicked in the mouth for no reason, this is your beer.

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Lozen Boer from De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)
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