De Proef Signature Les Deux Brasseurs Ale (w/Jason Perkins) | De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)

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De Proef Signature Les Deux Brasseurs Ale (w/Jason Perkins)De Proef Signature Les Deux Brasseurs Ale (w/Jason Perkins)
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Brewed by:
De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)
Belgium | website

Style: Belgian Strong Pale Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 8.50%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

Added by Patrick999 on 09-06-2008

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4.15
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Photo of MasterSki
2.22/5  rDev -46.5%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 1.5

Bottle picked up by d0b in early 2009. Served in a Struise cervoise.

A - Removing the cork doesn't even yield the slightest pop. A hard pour generates a dime of white foam that settles to a thin collar, some wisps, and a few spots of lace. Body looks like some sort of juice puree - apricot perhaps, but darker. This isn't pale at all!

S - Smells somewhat oxidized. There's some caramel malt and vague medicinal and pineapple brett character, along with some earthy notes.

T - Taste is a mixture of cardboard and burnt wood, with a slightly medicinal brett finish. There's a bit of leather and earth in there too. Not totally undrinkable, but not good at all.

M - Extremely low carbonation, dry finish, medium body, tannic and gritty texture, light residual stickiness. Some warming alcohol in the finish.

D - Terrible. I'm guessing this is an off bottle, as a Belgian Golden Ale with brett should hold up better than this. I'm also guessing the synthetic cork didn't get the job done, as most of the reviews reference ample carbonation and completely different flavor profiles. 95% of this went down the drain.

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Photo of WastingFreetime
2.23/5  rDev -46.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

AGED REVIEW

This one has been in the basement since 2008...let's see how well it has held up. (Short version : It didn't.)

The moment I release the cork I am greeted with a strong aroma of grape skins and wild-ale sour pineapple notes. The smell intensifies as I pour into my tulip glass. There are some sediment chunks but it is manageable. Color is golden with an orange tinge around the edges and a white two finger head that pulls back to half a finger of stable froth in the surface, mild lacing left behind.

After a light swirl, I detect some swelling band-aid aroma under the pineapple and start to worry. After taking my first sip, I pour the rest of my bottle down the drain with great sadness. It was filled with so much band-aids, plastic, and medicinal flavor as to be almost undrinkable. From the time that I had it in my mouth, the body was medium thickness but really quite flat and unpleasantly drying...

Either I have had an infected bottle, or a cellaring failure.

I have another De Proef collaboration (with a different brewer than this one) bottle in the basement from 2008 that I am now quite worried about...I shall have to make bringing it up and tasting it a higher priority.

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Photo of superspak
2.48/5  rDev -40.2%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

750 ml bottle into tulip glass; best before 4/21/2012 date on the cork. No pop upon releasing the cork, flat beer. Pours a very hazy reddish orange color with no head. A minimal lace cap does eventually show up that lingers; with minimal glass lacing. Aromas of caramel, pear, apple, grape, wood, leather, clove, cardboard, toast, and yeast earthiness. Unimpressive aromas with decent balance and complexity; moderate oxidation makes this a bit unpleasant. Taste of caramel, pear, apple, grape, golden raisin, toast, brown sugar, leather, light wood, cardboard, and yeast earthiness. Lingering notes of caramel, light fruits, toast, leather, brown sugar, cardboard, and yeast earthiness on the finish for a good bit. Decent flavor balance and complexity; with moderate oxidation flavors and minimal cloying flavors after the finish. Nearly zero carbonation and medium bodied; with a slick and creamy mouthfeel that is decent. Alcohol is very well hidden with only a small warming noticed after the finish. Overall this is a poor Belgian golden ale due to the oxidation and lack of carbonation. Decent complexity and balance of flavors; but the oxidation makes it unpleasant. I had to drain pour this one, not enjoyable.

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Photo of akorsak
2.68/5  rDev -35.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

A corked (synthetic cork) and caged 750 mL bottle shared with ksak and janlud.

A: The ale has a brownish-orange auburn color, darker and opaque, with only a faint wisp of white head. No lacing with this one.

S: The ale has a dense, smokey fruit aroma that justs time spent in a whisky barrel. A few candied fruits are lingering around but they struggle against the sickly fullness. I'm not taking this as a good sign. As my notes say, infected or bleh.

T: The rich flavors, almost smokey, continue into the body. The denseness takes a while to reveal the pineapple flavors. They're there, just not very impressive. Brettanomyces? Where? Nothing doing on that front. I'm gonna chalk it up to a bad bottle and leave it there.

M and D: I lack the conviction to continue...

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Photo of largadeer
2.76/5  rDev -33.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

750ml bottle graciously shared by my friend on his birthday.

Appearance: Hazy but clear blond with a big billowing white head. Very bubbly stuff.

Smell: This is one intensely estery beer. I get pineapple, mango and apricot up front, with funkiness present but backseat to the sweetness. The brett comes out more and more as it warms, but the sweetness puts me off. This is supposedly dry hopped, but my nose isn't picking up much in the way of hop aroma.

Taste & mouthfeel: Sugary and fruity, pineapple and apricot flavors really shine here. Not much brett presence in the taste, but plenty of cloying fruity sweetness. The body is medium-light; carbonation is spot-on for the style, highly effervescent and almost champagne-like. The finish doesn't dry up nearly as much as I'd like.

Drinkability: A beer best shared. The sweetness is really overbearing.

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Photo of jujubeast6000
2.88/5  rDev -30.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Reviewed 5/21/2009 (Bottle):

Pours a golden pale color body. Has a small foamy white head. A nice sour aroma, sweet and somewhat fruity, with apple or light grape. Very sour taste, not as sweet or fruity. A little too much on the sourness, might not be a big fan.

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Photo of BeerImmediately
3.08/5  rDev -25.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

750ml into Duvel tulip at about 45 degrees.

Pours with a fairly rocky off-white head, with plenty of carbonation flowing up through the deep orange body. Good lacing.

Very sweet, bready, and fruity aroma - like a fruit pastry in the morning. Yeasty, but not in a stale or funky way. Touch of plastic.

Comes across somewhat tangy on the palate. Mouthfeel seems a bit thin for the style and ABV, and seems to be lacking carbonation or bite. Fairly highly hopped, just outside of a Belgian IPA. Mostly tropical fruits (pineapple rhind), but also some citrus and even cranberry tartness in the finish. As it warms, there's a lot of band-aid in both the aroma and flavor. Pretty unique mixture overall, but not my favorite.

Overall, this is a decent beer, but nowhere near the value for the price (mine was $22).

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Photo of pmoore311
3.09/5  rDev -25.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

2008 Poured from a cork and caged bottle into a snifter on New Years Eve 2009 as a toast to ring in 2010.

Appearance - pour a beautiful hazy orangish color with a nice white head.

Smell - very funky, I now know what others mean by the term "funk" as this is one of my first experiences with Brettanomyces yeast being this dominant. Other notes of fruits appear behind the overpowering funk. I particularly noticed peach and pear to be the most dominant.

Taste - very funky barnyard, outdoor, hay and leather followed by sour, sour fruits (peach and pear are what I noticed to be most forward), I would say sour grapes too. Very acidic and sour, had a nice pucker factor. Slight hop profile to finish.

Mouthfeel - medium bodied and chewy, seemed to sit on my palette and continue to deliver sourness between sips.

Drinkability - due to the sour nature of this beer I rated average drinkability.


For those that are a fan of Belgian sours and enjoy the flavor the Brett adds I would say this is a very well crafted beer. I for one do not seem to be a fan of the Belgian sour styles as it just does not sit well on my palette. Perhaps I will acquire more of a taste over time, but for now, I will not be seeking out beers within this style.

My marks reflect my impression of the beer and do not reflect the quality in which this beer was crafted.

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Photo of JBogan
3.44/5  rDev -17.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Pours a murky honey color with a small white head which leaves excellent lacing.

Smells very nice. Very peppery with spicy yeast, bananas and pineapple. Musty.

Taste was a letdown compared to the aroma. Had a medicinal quality along with some chalkiness. Some sweet malt was there along with the aforementioned fruits.

Mouthfeel was alright. Medium/thick, with a good carbonation tingle. Somewhat smooth and dry.

Overall this was a fair beer. There was a bit too much of the musty "horseblanket" thing going on here, even though it normally doesn't bother me. That, along with the medicinal and chalky qualities kept this from being a beer I'd care to have again.

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Photo of EGledhill
3.47/5  rDev -16.4%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Started up my first trade in 6 months so i figured "what the fuck, lets grab something from the cellar". decided on this because, well, it was in the first box i looked in.

A. popped the cork on this and it gushed harder than patronwizards wife when I'm around (yeah... that's for you vic)..when it was done foaming into the sink, I had about 3/4 of the bottle left...Fuck

S. Wow... first wiff reminds me why I shouldn't review sours...Not a fan of them. Musty funk, like my gym sneakers. There's some fruit in the smell but damn, I just cant get past the brett smell.

T. This dogs bark is worse than its bite... the taste is tolerably good. not overly powerful with the sour, slightly fruity, and a good amount of funk

M. coats the mouth which is good...but leaves the funk taste...not gonna dock points for it

D. like every other sour tasting beer I've tried. I'm sure someone thinks it's the shit but not this guy..Definitely my last endeavor into sours

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Photo of brystmar
3.49/5  rDev -15.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

750ml bottle --> Maredsous chalice.

Pours a gorgeous gold/coppery color with just under a finger of white head. This is a gorgeous beer, top marks!

Smells bretty with hints of sour fruits and other fruity notes, a touch of malt too. These scents aren't particularly strong either; all in all, pretty average here.

Taste is an improvement over the smell, starting off sour & bretty with strong Granny Smith apple flavors. Lots of sweetness in the aftertaste to contrast the bright sourness up front.

I love the way this beer feels in the mouth -- on the low to medium side for carbonation with a medium-bodied consistency overall. Low on the scale of alcoholic warmth.

This brew is pretty drinkable in a vacuum, but the sourness this beer exhibits limited me to this single bottle. A solid beer overall.

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Photo of LilBeerDoctor
3.53/5  rDev -14.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle sampled on 09/26/08 at Night of the Funk. Pours a cloudy golden yellow/orange with a small white head. Aroma of honey, melon, wheat, and funk. Flavor is quite funky, with a slight tartness and sweet fruit notes (apple mostly), and some Belgian yeast. Pretty good beer.
7/4/7/4/14 (3.6/5)

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Photo of Shaw
3.59/5  rDev -13.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A light amber in color with a sticky white head that reduces to a fine layer in my tulip glass.

Very complex aroma that reminds me of Christmas spice, with notes of banana.

Very earthy flavor, most likely from the complex yeasts used in this beer. Dry, with just a hint of malt sweetness and no real hop bitterness. High alcohol level is well hidden.

Oily mouthfeel.

Overall this is a very interesting example of the style. Quite different from the top rated ones, like Duvel, but worth trying for those fans of wild yeasts.

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Photo of kojevergas
3.65/5  rDev -12%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

750ml brown glass bottle with hood-and-wire cap over a cork served into an EKU 28 snifter in low altitude Los Angeles, California. Reviewed from notes.

Expectations are rather high given the brewers. I've yet to have a bad beer from Allagash, but I do fear that De Proef may be a bit too clinical for its own good.

Paired with gloucester cheese and rye triscuit crackers. Best before date: 03/11/2012. (It's unclear if this is March 11th or November 3rd).

A: Pours a two finger head of slight cream, fair thickness, and good retention. Colour is a transparent yellow-gold. No yeast particles are visible. Appears adequately carbonated.

Sm: Pear, pineapple, yeast, and light hops. A mild strength aroma.

T: Light spice over a clean malted barley foundation, with a handful of unobtrusive hops and subtle pear and pineapple hints. No alcohol comes through. The yeast is pleasant but subtle, lending the flavour the few spices it contains. Some lactic notes are present but very understated. The bretts barely come through at all - to my chagrin. The pear is delightful but not overdone. Overall, it's a balanced subtle flavour. Refreshing and enjoyable, in spite of its above average ABV - which doesn't come through hardly at all.

Mf: Smooth and wet, with a touch of coarseness on the climax to coax out the flavour. Not too thick nor too thin.

Dr/Ov: Very drinkable, especially for the above average ABV. A lovely golden ale. I'd have it again.

B

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Photo of JAXSON
3.7/5  rDev -10.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

2009 rate.

750ml bottle. Very torn on this one. On one hand, it has a lot of qualities I really seek and and admire -- well-integrated brett, wild, barnyard qualities, very pleasantly tart, sour, and funky, and a great tropical fruit presence. On the other hand, it verges on being disgusting in that it is not lacking in the pig manure and cat urine quality. I think an additional six months might clarify this issue. Really good, would be my assessment, could be wonderful if the yeast character changes a bit for the better in the bottle. The ultimate goal here would be to have the beer's rating rises to the level where Tertons would be willing to drink it (though it remains to be seen whether it is limited enough for that to happen).

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Photo of jwinship83
3.72/5  rDev -10.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

750ml corked and caged bottle poured into my duvel tulip.

A- this one comes out of the bottle a darkish golden yellow colored body with a massive three finger bright white head. a nice wall of lacing left behind as the head slowly fades.

S- belgian yeast, some earthy funkiness, a variety of fruits. green apple, lemon, pear, etc. grainy malts. slightly acidic.

T- the taste follows the smell. funkier than i was expecting adn it comes with a mild green apple like tartness. pretty fruity. lots of pear and lemon.

M- medium bodied with a whole lot of carbonation. fizzy on my tongue.

D- easy to finish and different than i was expecting. id like to get another one to lay down for a while. ill revisit this one eventually.

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Photo of Rifugium
3.73/5  rDev -10.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

First had: on tap at Capone's, Norristown, PA

Poured into a small snifter (9oz. perhaps?), a hazy, golden orange color. Filled to the brim of the glass, so not much in the way of a head, other than an ultra thin layer of tiny white bubbles. Very subdued aroma; I got just about nothing at all, other than a touch of perfume. Delightful taste, very light, yet with a substantial medium body. Fruity: orange blossom, grapes, melon, pear, caramel, balanced with yeasty spice and a touch of grassiness. Surprisingly refreshing and drinkable. Alcohol almost unnoticeable.

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Photo of porkinator
3.73/5  rDev -10.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A - Pours a beautiful Orange color with a thick white foam head. Delicous lacing.

S - Light citrus on the nose with the Brett.

T - Citrus. Aftertaste is "plasticy." Slightly tart, perfect tartness IMO.

M - Very thick. Low carbonation.

O - I think it was bad to have this follow a blend of Belgian style ales from Sutter Buttes. Regardless, this beer is very good, but as someone else has already stated, not worth the $ paid for.

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Photo of clickpush
3.75/5  rDev -9.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Pour: 750ml bottle to tulip glass. Apricot cloudy body w/ a big white head. Very slow descent that sticks to the glass all the way down.

Aroma: Pops right out of the bottle. Peaches and cream. Lots of vanilla. Wild yeast. Cinnamon and ginger. Yummy.

Taste: Creamy body, small bubbles, dry finish. Long lasting herbacious hop flavor. Flavors develop from front of the mouth to the back. Some wild yeast character, alcohol heat, and some metalic notes. I think one glass of this is enough.

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Photo of OWSLEY069
3.8/5  rDev -8.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a hazy orange-ish color with a light tan head. In the aroma, dry yeast and a small tartness of white grapes. In the taste, a small tart fruitiness of red grapes and a small yeasty dryness. A small sour bite and a medium to lighter bodied mouthfeel, with a small dry grape and small alcohol like aftertaste. A nice fruit presence with a small sourness, yet expecting it to be a bit more sour.

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Photo of xnicknj
3.8/5  rDev -8.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

on tap at jose pistola's in philly

Pours a hazed golden color, filmy retention, curtains of lacing, thin head.

Plenty of fruit and funk in the nose, pear and apple with brett tartness, grainy malt.

Slightly bitter up front with floral hops and a bit of a spicy note. Fruits are prevalent with pear and apple, sweeter than I expected. Tart brett, a little funky, not exactly sour. Grainy cracker like malt and dryness. Finishes with fruit and dry hoppiness.

Medium body, higher carbonation, dry and lingering on the tongue. Pretty tasty beer but not exactly what I was expecting, and definitely more fruit sweetness than sour brett.

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Photo of Sammy
3.82/5  rDev -8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle from Gordon's in Boston. Expensive but worthy, and it is an exception to the rule of smell and taste. Barnyard but very good. Now smell is in the rating, it is tolerable. Creamy and fairly full mouthfeel. lasting head. Yeasty and pineapple.Liked the brett.
Had a year later, Jeremy bottle from Belgian, dark grapefruit colour with white lace. Good mouthfeel, a sipper.

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Photo of Reagan1984
3.88/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Big Thanks to Draught2012 for providing this beer to a recent beer tasting. Jimmy is a great guy..

Wasn't sure what to expect here, so I went in with a totally open mind. Happy to report that this beer grew on me as I drank it and in the end I really enjoyed it.

Fluffy white head forms atop the beer and stays for quite a while. There is a dull haze to the beer which is a light gold/straw color with some amber tones. Not much in the way of lace.

Aroma sharp at first. Wow, this signals a sour beer to come. As often happens the flavor is not as assertive as the aroma leads you to believe. Light stone fruit and subtle wood in the aroma as well. Certainly a musty quality to the aroma.

There is quite a bit going on in the flavor here. At a beer event last summer we heard Rob Todd speak about wood aging. He handed out a flavor wheel at this talk that I've kept and found very helpful. As soon as I tasted this beer I thought of the wheel and one of the flavor components listed. Pencil shavings, yes Pencil shavings. Slightly different than cedar, but definitely this was it. Also lots of fruit with Apple, apricot. Also a menthol quality to the flavor.

Slightly dry, aggressive carbonation, fairly refreshing.

A complex beer and one to explore all the different components.

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Photo of dstc
3.9/5  rDev -6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a cloudy orange/brown color with a big foamy white head that falls fairly slow with nice lacing.

Very spicy aroma. Fruity, pears and pineapple maybe. Maybe a little sour.

Very tangy fruit taste up front with a nice spice to it. Bit of a hoppy finish.

Medium bodied and very smooth in the mouth with moderate carbonation.

Fairly drinkable but one 750ml bottle at a time was fine with me.

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Photo of ArrogantB
3.9/5  rDev -6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

750ml bottle courtesy of Tayner, thanks a bunch. Nice orange, cloudy, smells like a bit of graham cracker as noted on the bottle. Nice flavors, very fruity, watermelon, funky fruits and I didn;t notice much barnyard funk. Overall this is very interesting and makes me want to seek out the DeProef/Port collaborative beer.

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