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De Proef Signature Les Deux Brasseurs Ale (w/Jason Perkins) | De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)

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De Proef Signature Les Deux Brasseurs Ale (w/Jason Perkins)De Proef Signature Les Deux Brasseurs Ale (w/Jason Perkins)

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De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)

Style: Belgian Strong Pale Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 8.50%

Availability: Rotating

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Added by Patrick999 on 09-06-2008

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Photo of WastingFreetime
2.23/5  rDev -46.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2


This one has been in the basement since 2008...let's see how well it has held up. (Short version : It didn't.)

The moment I release the cork I am greeted with a strong aroma of grape skins and wild-ale sour pineapple notes. The smell intensifies as I pour into my tulip glass. There are some sediment chunks but it is manageable. Color is golden with an orange tinge around the edges and a white two finger head that pulls back to half a finger of stable froth in the surface, mild lacing left behind.

After a light swirl, I detect some swelling band-aid aroma under the pineapple and start to worry. After taking my first sip, I pour the rest of my bottle down the drain with great sadness. It was filled with so much band-aids, plastic, and medicinal flavor as to be almost undrinkable. From the time that I had it in my mouth, the body was medium thickness but really quite flat and unpleasantly drying...

Either I have had an infected bottle, or a cellaring failure.

I have another De Proef collaboration (with a different brewer than this one) bottle in the basement from 2008 that I am now quite worried about...I shall have to make bringing it up and tasting it a higher priority.

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Photo of Rifugium
3.73/5  rDev -10.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

First had: on tap at Capone's, Norristown, PA

Poured into a small snifter (9oz. perhaps?), a hazy, golden orange color. Filled to the brim of the glass, so not much in the way of a head, other than an ultra thin layer of tiny white bubbles. Very subdued aroma; I got just about nothing at all, other than a touch of perfume. Delightful taste, very light, yet with a substantial medium body. Fruity: orange blossom, grapes, melon, pear, caramel, balanced with yeasty spice and a touch of grassiness. Surprisingly refreshing and drinkable. Alcohol almost unnoticeable.

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Photo of MasterSki
2.22/5  rDev -46.5%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 1.5

Bottle picked up by d0b in early 2009. Served in a Struise cervoise.

A - Removing the cork doesn't even yield the slightest pop. A hard pour generates a dime of white foam that settles to a thin collar, some wisps, and a few spots of lace. Body looks like some sort of juice puree - apricot perhaps, but darker. This isn't pale at all!

S - Smells somewhat oxidized. There's some caramel malt and vague medicinal and pineapple brett character, along with some earthy notes.

T - Taste is a mixture of cardboard and burnt wood, with a slightly medicinal brett finish. There's a bit of leather and earth in there too. Not totally undrinkable, but not good at all.

M - Extremely low carbonation, dry finish, medium body, tannic and gritty texture, light residual stickiness. Some warming alcohol in the finish.

D - Terrible. I'm guessing this is an off bottle, as a Belgian Golden Ale with brett should hold up better than this. I'm also guessing the synthetic cork didn't get the job done, as most of the reviews reference ample carbonation and completely different flavor profiles. 95% of this went down the drain.

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Photo of xnicknj
3.8/5  rDev -8.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

on tap at jose pistola's in philly

Pours a hazed golden color, filmy retention, curtains of lacing, thin head.

Plenty of fruit and funk in the nose, pear and apple with brett tartness, grainy malt.

Slightly bitter up front with floral hops and a bit of a spicy note. Fruits are prevalent with pear and apple, sweeter than I expected. Tart brett, a little funky, not exactly sour. Grainy cracker like malt and dryness. Finishes with fruit and dry hoppiness.

Medium body, higher carbonation, dry and lingering on the tongue. Pretty tasty beer but not exactly what I was expecting, and definitely more fruit sweetness than sour brett.

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Photo of feloniousmonk
4.08/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Lightly hazed, glorious bright golden hue, gorgeous, lacy white head. Very promising.

Aroma: A little spice, a little fruit, with a twist of funk. Rather quiet, beyond that.

Tasting it: wild and funky at first crazy texture, dry and spicy, lean bodied, tasty fruit character, peach and citrus fruit, a little honey. Extra-ordinarily well-integrated, beautiful balance, soft, slightly sweet, terrifically drinkable. Brett plays a minor role in this one, gives just a little tickle.

Altogether, a delicious, complex, and very rewarding brew. Twist of this, twist of that, add that up to mmmm.

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Photo of gatornation
4/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

serving on tap

A-pours a hazed sunset golden amber color with a minimal haed but excellent fresh retention in the collar

S- was banana,clove ,fresh fruit,yeast,spices with some funk

T- follows nose lots of fruit with spice a nice funky finish backed up with some hops

M- medium carbonation with a tart fruit taste

O- very enjoyable easy to drink vert tasty offering

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Photo of Halcyondays
4.3/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

On-tap at The Bruery Provisions,

A: Pours a dark goldenrod with a medium white head, somewhat fizzy, but with good retention and lace.

S: Pungent nose of pineapple, lemon, and leather.

T: Pineapple, pear and assorted citrus form the main flavour, but more yeast oriented than a hop flavour. Definite Brett note in the finish which was intriguing.

M: Medium to full-bodied, but easy on the palate, crisp, smooth.

O: This is a really good beer. Rich, full-flavoured, very tasty.

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Photo of BEERMILER12
4.48/5  rDev +8%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Best by: 03/11/14

A: Pours a slightly cloudy straw yellow with a massive 3-finger head that leaves great lacing

S: Definite belgian yeast with a slight funk. Yeast leaves notes of banana, pear, apple, and other fruits including some lemon zest

T: Same as the smell, with a nice sour finish. Not mouth puckering, but definitely good. The sourness found in some strains of brett certainly doesn't overpower the beer, and lets the fruits shine. Alcohol is hidden well, but also lends a slightly peppery taste that compliments the fruitiness of the yeast

M: Light bodied with fairly low carbonation as well

D/O: This is definitely a great BSPA and one that I would go back to if it was regularly released and wasn't $17 for a bottle. Aside from those two aspects, it's extremely drinkable and tasty. Great collaboration!

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Photo of Reagan1984
3.88/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Big Thanks to Draught2012 for providing this beer to a recent beer tasting. Jimmy is a great guy..

Wasn't sure what to expect here, so I went in with a totally open mind. Happy to report that this beer grew on me as I drank it and in the end I really enjoyed it.

Fluffy white head forms atop the beer and stays for quite a while. There is a dull haze to the beer which is a light gold/straw color with some amber tones. Not much in the way of lace.

Aroma sharp at first. Wow, this signals a sour beer to come. As often happens the flavor is not as assertive as the aroma leads you to believe. Light stone fruit and subtle wood in the aroma as well. Certainly a musty quality to the aroma.

There is quite a bit going on in the flavor here. At a beer event last summer we heard Rob Todd speak about wood aging. He handed out a flavor wheel at this talk that I've kept and found very helpful. As soon as I tasted this beer I thought of the wheel and one of the flavor components listed. Pencil shavings, yes Pencil shavings. Slightly different than cedar, but definitely this was it. Also lots of fruit with Apple, apricot. Also a menthol quality to the flavor.

Slightly dry, aggressive carbonation, fairly refreshing.

A complex beer and one to explore all the different components.

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Photo of timtim
4/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

golden with a white head that leaves some pretty lace. nose is citrus, spice, fruit and a touch of bretty funk. taste is like a slightly peppery blonde with lots of fruity esters and spicy phenols. not bad. not awesome. similar to confluence with a little less funk and a touch of chalkiness in the finish. medium body with zippy carbonation. good beer. not mind-blowing.

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Photo of mdfb79
4.05/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Had on tap tonight at Galaxy Hut in Arlinton, VA. Poured into a pint glass.

a = Pours a hazy orange color with one inch of white head and light carbonation evident.

s - Smells of bananas, oranges, spices, yeast, light brett or funk, and fruity malts.

t - Tastes of bananas, spices, yeast, citrus, and fruity malts. No brett like in the smell, but still good.

m - Medium body and moderate carbonation, smooth and creamy. Nice body.

d - A very nice Belgian ale. I really liked the smell and the body was great. Would certainly have again.

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Photo of Daniellobo
4.07/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

lLong and complex brett Belgium ale, almost with geuze-like touches of vinegar. Pleasing and worthy.

Presentation: 750 ml rubber corked bottle. Simple front label design based on the typography and noting background name of the brew, description, and signature of the collaborating brewmasters: Dirk Naudts from De Proef B rouwerij, and Jason Perkins from Allagash brewing. Back label includes a lengthy narrative going over the history, intent, and characteristics of the brew. Lacks a clear best by date (delicate print on the plastic cork note 24/5/12). Notes Alc. by Vol. (8.5%) Served in a tulip glass.

A - Hazy deep amber pour, short head, minimal retention not that there is much to retain. Fair memory ring with minimal lacing.

S - Funky barnyard, assertive, with a sour note. Some citric and generic fruity notes.

T - Funky, sour, caramel, touches of vinegar, woven with a bretty sense. Notes of barnyard over some sugary and tart fruit.

M - Medium to Medium-full body with quite low carbonation. Actually it works pretty well, with a strange smoothness as the complex and sour notes open up.

D - Hmm, if one digs how the brett strains work here and provide that sour undercurrent this is rather enticing.

Notes: Hmmm, maybe not the favorite from De Proef's collaborations but sure enough it is quite memorable.

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Photo of JAXSON
3.7/5  rDev -10.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

2009 rate.

750ml bottle. Very torn on this one. On one hand, it has a lot of qualities I really seek and and admire -- well-integrated brett, wild, barnyard qualities, very pleasantly tart, sour, and funky, and a great tropical fruit presence. On the other hand, it verges on being disgusting in that it is not lacking in the pig manure and cat urine quality. I think an additional six months might clarify this issue. Really good, would be my assessment, could be wonderful if the yeast character changes a bit for the better in the bottle. The ultimate goal here would be to have the beer's rating rises to the level where Tertons would be willing to drink it (though it remains to be seen whether it is limited enough for that to happen).

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Photo of chainsfan1
4.17/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

C: Low carbonation with a gold color and little to no head retention.

S: Sweet pineapple and pear

T: Front- over powered by the nose.
Middle- was very musty.
End- very pineapple and pear.

M: Front- smooth with no carbonation
Middle- Huge overpowering musty taste that hits the sides of the tongue but quickly leaves and is replaced by fruity candy sugar.
End- Pineapple and pear without a yeasty taste that honestly I was waiting for.

D: This is one beer that was fun to drink. I shared it with some friends and we all had a different experience with it! That to me is what it is all about. Drinking a brew and talking it over with some beer nerds. The fact that we all had different opinions about this one means that I want it again. So I recommend this to anyone that wants to experience something different.

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Photo of JoEBoBpr
4.47/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Poured into a tulip glass from a 750ml bottle.

A - Pours a slightly flat hazy orange liquid with some nice golden hints. There is almost no head at all. (3.5)

S - Aroma of ripe peaches, white grapes and nice vinous notes. Slight vinegar tartness is present. There are some soft bread notes on the back of the nose as well as some nice yeast phenols. The funk in this beer is pretty nice as well with slight husk notes and a bit of a musty farmhouse smell. (4.0)

T & M - The flavor is not as tart as expected based on the aroma but there is that slight vinous character, especially with some white wine note. Slight fruit juice sweetens particularly some apple, pear and some peach as well. This is a very delicious brew. The bread notes come in along with the fruit and balances the sweetness. The funk is also quite good and not too overwhelming or dry. The yeast notes play perfectly with the fruit sweetness the vinous tart notes to create a very well balanced Belgian Ale. You just have to love the way they use the Brett in this brew. Then what takes this beer near perfection is how the hop character is reminiscent of an American IPA with a slight peachy and tropical hop character. The body is nice and light and not overly dry. The carbonation is on the lower end of the spectrum but there is enough to add some crispness to the beer. The finish is great with some great balance of flavors. (4.5) (5.0)

D - Beer is delicious and I would have this readily available in my fridge if possible. Im actually glad I got more than 1 bottle of this. ABV is well hidden. (5.0)

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Photo of Shaw
3.59/5  rDev -13.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A light amber in color with a sticky white head that reduces to a fine layer in my tulip glass.

Very complex aroma that reminds me of Christmas spice, with notes of banana.

Very earthy flavor, most likely from the complex yeasts used in this beer. Dry, with just a hint of malt sweetness and no real hop bitterness. High alcohol level is well hidden.

Oily mouthfeel.

Overall this is a very interesting example of the style. Quite different from the top rated ones, like Duvel, but worth trying for those fans of wild yeasts.

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Photo of akorsak
2.68/5  rDev -35.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

A corked (synthetic cork) and caged 750 mL bottle shared with ksak and janlud.

A: The ale has a brownish-orange auburn color, darker and opaque, with only a faint wisp of white head. No lacing with this one.

S: The ale has a dense, smokey fruit aroma that justs time spent in a whisky barrel. A few candied fruits are lingering around but they struggle against the sickly fullness. I'm not taking this as a good sign. As my notes say, infected or bleh.

T: The rich flavors, almost smokey, continue into the body. The denseness takes a while to reveal the pineapple flavors. They're there, just not very impressive. Brettanomyces? Where? Nothing doing on that front. I'm gonna chalk it up to a bad bottle and leave it there.

M and D: I lack the conviction to continue...

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Photo of prototypic
4.42/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This Signature Ale release pours a bright copper color. A moderate amount of haze clouds the scene. It looks a little red when held to light. An impressive, off-white head tops it off. It's easily two and a half fingers in depth. Retention was very good, and a sticky, thick web of lace trailed down the glass.

The nose is extremely impressive. It's very fruity and a little sweet initially. Pineapple is the centerpiece. Apple, pear, and a little lemon round it out. Musk and funk are certainly noted. The presence of Brett can't be denied. While it's easily noted, it's not an overly strong funky scent. That's a positive. It blends in nicely. It smells a little spicy on the tail, but that aspect is subtle. Alcohol is masked extremely well. At the end of the day, it smells very deep and complex and...delicious.

The flavor is very impressive. It kicks with a strong fruit flavor. Pineapple is easily strongest, and resonates throughout. Apple, pear, and lemon all follow. It tastes a little sweet and sugary, but it's far from overbearing. Due to the Brett presence, it's musky and funky. Those flavors add a ton of depth and complement the other flavors extremely well. I'm pleased to report that the funky flavor is moderate, rather than overwhelming. In a word...delicious. Clove and pepper spices add more depth and flavor. There's even a lively Noble hop flavor that's a nice touch. And Let us not forget the very flavorful Belgian yeast. Alcohol is lost in the shuffle. It finishes a little tangy with a funky twist.

The body here is light, leaning medium. It's too thin. It somehow manages to be smooth, but it would benefit from more body. Carbonation is also a little too buzzy. Drinkability, on the other hand, is extremely high. This is damn tasty stuff that's difficult to sip. It's too tasty. A 750 you ask? It might not be enough.

This collaborative effort by De Proefbrouwerij and Jason Perkins of Allagash is fantastic. There's very little to criticize negatively. The flavor itself is very deep and satisfying. I guess the body feels a little too thin, but that hardly ruins it. All other cylinders are firing nicely. I don't know how many of these bottles are left out there, but do yourself a favor and find one. Honestly, I enjoyed this one every bit as much as the collaboration with Tomme Arthur. Find a bottle.

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Photo of rfgetz
4.42/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours a murky orangy brown with nice poof of cream colored head. Good retention and sticky lacing. Smell is of earthy funk backed by fresh grain, bread, touches of pear and apple. Taste a blend of fresh grains, musty earth, notes of semi-sharp cheese, backed by a sweet bready taste and hints of the pear and apple. Medium bodied, grainyness to it. A wonderful beer drinking experience, the scent makes you think complete funk while the taste is nothing but original and unique. Highly recomended.

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Photo of zeff80
4.39/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A - Poured out a cloudy/murky brown color with a tan, foamy head of thick foam. It left some soapy residue on the glass.

S - It smelled of spice and some barnyard funk. There were also fruity notes of pear and apple.

T - This one had a good funky taste with sweet maltiness - a graham cracker like flavor. Pear and apple flavors came through nicely, too.

M - It was crisp, sharp and smooth. A medium-bodied ale with a dry finish.

D - This is a really great tasting beer. Very unique beer. It has aged well.

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Photo of scootny
4.35/5  rDev +4.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

An exquisite beer of delicate construction. A musty orange color and an off white head of slight stature but a tenacious covering. Smell is musty with a deep fruitiness that has an apple and pear signature and Bret based barnyard funk. Taste has a sharpness like good cheddar that borders on lactic. Apples, pears and white raisins flow into a light tartness. Hops in the finish has a horse blanket carriage. Feel is creamy and lightly carbonated. Drinkability is starts out good and gets better as you go.

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Photo of JohnGalt1
3.97/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Received this in trade a long time ago from Stopbarking.. Barks is a truly great trader.... Thanks Daniel.. Our's was epic!!

lightly hazed orange brew.. good head and lacing....

nose shows a bunch of brett with fruity esters.... pretty dusty and a fair amount of apricot..

even after all this time.. it is quite a bit sweeter than expected. sweet red apple... and shades of deep funk.. certainly more Brett than sour.. but everything that I hope for is there..

I've been sitting on this for a long time.. and I hoped for more .. but the brett really only showed well on the palate with warmth.. I am pretty damn sure this is the 1st bottling... I need to pick up a couple at Brewforia while the getting is good. Huge thanks again Daniel... We should do it again some time.


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Photo of dciBA
4.33/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

poured from the 750 into my Allagash chalice. Pours a cloudy deep orange. About one finger of white head kicks it off and stays around for a long time. i smell a little belgian yeast under sour fruit, mostly apple. Quite a bit of funk in there as well. Taste is mostly apple, some fresh cut, with some sour apple in there too. A nice little taste of hops as it goes down. The funkiness in the smell isn't as overpowering in the taste as you would expect. Drinkability is very good, with a nice dry mouthfeel and finish. My only gripe would be the staying power on the palate. You lose the taste quickly and are looking for the next sip right away.

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Photo of pmoore311
3.09/5  rDev -25.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

2008 Poured from a cork and caged bottle into a snifter on New Years Eve 2009 as a toast to ring in 2010.

Appearance - pour a beautiful hazy orangish color with a nice white head.

Smell - very funky, I now know what others mean by the term "funk" as this is one of my first experiences with Brettanomyces yeast being this dominant. Other notes of fruits appear behind the overpowering funk. I particularly noticed peach and pear to be the most dominant.

Taste - very funky barnyard, outdoor, hay and leather followed by sour, sour fruits (peach and pear are what I noticed to be most forward), I would say sour grapes too. Very acidic and sour, had a nice pucker factor. Slight hop profile to finish.

Mouthfeel - medium bodied and chewy, seemed to sit on my palette and continue to deliver sourness between sips.

Drinkability - due to the sour nature of this beer I rated average drinkability.

For those that are a fan of Belgian sours and enjoy the flavor the Brett adds I would say this is a very well crafted beer. I for one do not seem to be a fan of the Belgian sour styles as it just does not sit well on my palette. Perhaps I will acquire more of a taste over time, but for now, I will not be seeking out beers within this style.

My marks reflect my impression of the beer and do not reflect the quality in which this beer was crafted.

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Photo of darklordlager
4.12/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Pours a light pear cider colour, with a light coating of grey-white head. Little odd shaped bubbles.

S: Barrage of funky fruits--peach, apple, pear. Light acidic sourness, barnyard funk and grapes. Pineapple. A BA who doesn't enjoy the funky Belgian genre suggested "applesauce which sat in the fridge for a year, blended with moldy pears." From what I remember, this reminds me a little of Orval.

T: The brett funk dominates the initial flavours, and are hard to distinguish with the first sip. With a few more, the fruits described in the smell really come to life--pear, apple, pineapple. Slight sourness, and barnyard funk. As it warms, the hop character really starts to emerge with the barnyard funk. Chewing aged pellet hops is the best comparison I can draw. As it warms a cider/hop pellet character becomes the most prevalent.

M: Medium mouthfeel, but the sourness mellows it out quite a bit.

D: Very interesting beer--much more funky than I was expecting. I will probably be picking up another one of these.

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De Proef Signature Les Deux Brasseurs Ale (w/Jason Perkins) from De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)
Beer rating: 4.15 out of 5 with 177 ratings
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