Van Twee (w/ John Mallett)
De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)

Van Twee (w/ John Mallett)Van Twee (w/ John Mallett)
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Brown Ale - Belgian Dark
3.98 | pDev: 8.29%
De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)
Retired (no longer brewed)
Very Good
Van Twee (w/ John Mallett)Van Twee (w/ John Mallett)
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superspak from Ohio

4.2/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

750 ml bottle into tulip glass; no bottle dating, but bottled in 2009. Pours fairly pitch black color with a 2 finger dense and fluffy tan head with great retention, that reduces to a small cap that lingers. Nice spotty soapy lacing clings around the glass. Aromas of tart cherry, dark chocolate, cocoa, coffee, toast, dark bread, molasses, licorice, raisin, prune, fig, light banana, clove, pepper, light smoke/char, and roast/yeast earthiness. Very nice aromas with good balance and complexity of dark/roasted malt, fruity/spicy yeast, and cherry juice notes; with good strength. Taste of lightly tart cherry, dark chocolate, cocoa, coffee, toast, dark bread, molasses, licorice, raisin, prune, fig, light banana, clove, pepper, light smoke/char, and roast/yeast earthiness on the finish. Fair amount of yeast spiciness and roasted bitterness on the finish; with lingering notes of dark chocolate, cocoa, coffee, toast, dark bread, molasses, dark fruit, clove, pepper, light smoke/char, and roast/yeast earthiness on the finish for a while. Incredible complexity and robustness of dark/roasted malt, fruity/spicy yeast, and light-moderate cherry juice flavors; with a great malt/yeast balance and zero cloying flavors after the finish. Medium-high carbonation and medium bodied; with a very smooth, moderately creamy, and lightly chalky/bready mouthfeel that is nice. Alcohol is very well hidden with zero warming presence after the finish. Overall this is an awesome Belgian strong dark ale/porter style! All around great complexity, robustness, and balance of dark/roasted malt, fruity/spicy yeast, and light-moderate cherry juice flavors; and very smooth to drink for the ABV. A highly enjoyable offering.

Mar 29, 2015
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ThePerks from Maine

4.11/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Purchased at Ron's Market in Farmington, ME for $2.
Cellared for 6 months. Beer is 5 yrs old.

A: Poured into a Schlitz goblet. Dark brown, cola. Huge head that lingers. Lacing all the way down the glass.
S:Cherry, fig, other dark fruits.
T: Cherry juice! Great Brett funk.
M: Dry. Good carbonation. Not syrupy but a titch cloying. Really great fruit sloshed in with the Brett.

Overall, this beer is right in my wheelhouse. Good funk, aged nicely. Lots going on. Have another bottle. Will wait on that for awhile. I also couldn't pass up the $2 price. Ron's is sweet.

Jan 07, 2015
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GeezLynn from Colorado

3.71/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.75

A: Dark brown with a billowing tan head that continues to ooze up. Great retention.
S: Strong cherry presence, vinegar, roasted malt.
T: Cherries are a little more subdued than in the smell. Malt is smooth, more of a smokey roast character than chocolate. Grape, cherry, and just a bit of tartness peeks out before a rauch-like woody smoked flavor. Finish is bitter and drying. Complex and incohesive.
M: heavy attenuation/dryness you would expect from a fruited beer with Brett that has been aged. Body is medium-light with moderate carbonation.

This beer was a bit of a disappointment when fresh, and it really hasn’t improved. Not bad, but I’d put it in the pile with the rest of collaborations where the sum doesn’t equal the parts.

Sep 05, 2013
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outdoor7or24 from Georgia

4.38/5  rDev +10.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.5

750 ml bottle poured into sniffer, Phillip picked up for me at CBX, $16
A: pours a dark chocolate color, thin khaki foam head, some spotty lacing
S: incredible aroma, cherries, chocolate, grapes, slight Brett, Belgian candy sugar, fresh plums, hint of coffee.
M: medium syrupy body
T: cherry, tartness, chocolate, plum, banana from malt, Belgium candy sugar, barnyard funk from Brettanomyces, grape, dry sweet finish
O: complex and full of flavor, 5 stars in my book, this is a great sipper, would get another bottle to age.

Aug 05, 2013
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metter98 from New York

4/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: The beer is very dark reddish brown (close to near black) in color. It poured with a short tan head that died down but never completely faded away.
S: There are moderately strong aromas of chocolate malts and cherries in the nose.
T: The taste is similar to the smell and also has some hints of roasted malts and sourness. No bitterness is detectable.
M:It feels light- to medium-bodied on the palate and has a moderate amount of carbonation.
O: This is a beer that is both very flavorful and drinkable. It is remiss cent of a light stout.

Nov 22, 2012
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PeterIngemi from Massachusetts

4/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 750 ml into a duvel glass

A: pours a deep dark murky brown with two and a half fingers of browned head that sticks around for a bit.... Leavs tons of sticky lacing as it recedes, wouldve given the appearance a 4.5 but the head was pushing obnoxious.

S: sour cherry juice and earthy tart Brett funk right up
Front, this brew smells a lot more sour then I expected, which is not a bad thing. I also get a lift roasted note along with coffe
And chocolate from the Malts, smells interestingly delicious.

T: this has an interesting flavor profile, I deffinatly get the sour cheery and earthly brett up front but then in the backbone I get an interesting smoke note that blends into dark fruit, plums, slight prune, along with notes of chocaye and coffee, it makes sense that this is a mash up of a porter and a Dubbel... I also get notes of banna and apple mixed in there as well, and there is deffinatly a vinous character from the Brett, this is a very complex brew.

M: medium bodied with medium carbonation and a creamy porter like mouthfeel.

O: this is a very complex beer, it is a slightly sour cherry chocolate porter with dubbel like quad and Belgian sugar and yeast notes. Very complex, deffinatly an interesting
And different brew.

Aug 06, 2012
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ummswimmin from New Jersey

3.9/5  rDev -2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Reviewed from notes (late-June tasting), just too busy to get in until today.

On the pour, this beer had tons of head that stuck around for a while. The foam led to somre really lumpy lacing. This beer is super dark. It was technically brown, which you only get while holding it up to the light or get down to the bottom of the glass.

It has a very sour nose. You pick up a ton of cherry. The flavor is very over-whelming.

The beer feels like a porter.

This was a very complicated beer. A little pricey, but well worth it if you can afford it.

Aug 05, 2012
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LiquidAmber from Washington

3.62/5  rDev -9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Review from 9/2010 notes. Poured into a Gulden Draak tulip. Pours a dark, dark red amber with a slight tan head and lacing. Aroma of cherries and spice with a bit of sour. Starts with light cherry sour, light malt, a moderate vinous flavor that carries through to a somewhat cherry sour, smooth finish. A somewhat astringent bitterness at the finish. Complex and well integrated, with a distinct wine-like component. Faint brett flavor that is satisfactory, but reasserts itself on warming. Moderate body. Nicely made, but finish isn't all that attractive to me. Pricey too.

Aug 02, 2012
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brokensail from California

2.98/5  rDev -25.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

A dark amber color with a little extra dose of brown. Sort of oxidized at this point, but nice cherry and caramel aromas. A bit of brown sugar and toffee, maybe a slight roast. Too much cardboard for my tastes, though. The flavor is similarly old and oxidized. Prunes, plums, and cherries give a decent fruit character and there is a lot of sugary sweetness to it as well. Still can’t quite escape the cardboard.

Jul 03, 2012
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MatthewWilde from Massachusetts

4.25/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Sample: 1 bottle 2009 (aged 3 years)

A: Almost completely dark with a deep ruby edge halo, pours a sturdy light brown head that is quite intrepid, moderate internal carbonation, unknown translucency

S: A very complex nose, heavy cherries and dried fruits, some vanilla and sugar cane, even some espresso elements rounded off with a touch of alcohol, quite fragrant

T: A flavor as complex and delicious as the nose, dried fruits, cherries, espresso, malt, chocolate, a bit of funk, almost tastes exactly like a chocolate covered cherry, no alcohol, very flavorful

M: Incredibly smooth, melts in the mouth, perfectly balanced, drinkable, easy on the palate, light fruity aftertaste, not drying in the slightest

O: Nice to look at, fragrant, flavorful, smooth, and complex, one of the better beers I've experienced, definitely worth a try (may have already peaked but still pretty amazing)

May 19, 2012
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Jugs_McGhee from Louisiana

3.1/5  rDev -22.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

1 pint 9.4 fl oz brown glass bottle with hood and wire cap over a cork served into a Guinness goblet in me gaff in low altitude Los Angeles, California. Reviewed live. Expectations are very high; I think this is my first beer from Bell's Brewery. Cork is labelled "Bell 01". No best before date is visible. A so called "mash-up" of a porter and dubbel according to the label.

Served refrigerator cold and allowed to warm over the course of consumption. Side-poured as no carbonation issues are anticipated.

A: Pours a half finger head of nice cream, decent thickness, and average retention considering the ABV. Colour is a weak light solid black. No yeast particles are visible due to its opaque nontransparency.

Sm: Very yeasty, with sour cherry, bacteria, cream, hints of porter-esque chocolate, and subtle fruit esters: grapefruit and apple (of all things). A moderate strength aroma. Complex, but strange. I wouldn't call it appealing or unappealing.

T: Some sour cherry and yeast are the first things I notice. The portery notes - weak chocolate and cream - collide with the rest of the beer, unsettling the balance. I like the cherry. The hop fruit esters hardly come through at all even when I search for them. Some candied sugar. Biscuity malt. Dark malts. The cherry juice on the finish is nice. A strange taste all around. Full bodied. No alcohol comes through. It's pleasant but far from refreshing. I like it, but I'm not looking forward to downing a whole bottle of it. It isn't unique or special.

Mf: Some cream. Smooth and wet. Too thick. Adequately carbonated. Suits the flavours decently.

Dr: Drinkable to an extent - you wouldn't want a full bottle to yourself because it's neither particularly high in quality nor particularly refreshing. I like that they're experimenting, but this needs work. I wouldn't recommend this to friends, nor would I get it again. Extremely pricey for the limited quality. Hides it ABV well. A disappointment coming from brewers that are so respected. I hope Bell's other offerings are better.

Gets a bit better as it warms.

Drank fine out of me goblet. Perhaps a tulip or snifter is best.

I guess it'd age okay. It's not at a good starting point as is.


Apr 06, 2012
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jsanford from Georgia

3.53/5  rDev -11.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

750ml bottle pouted into a Tulip Glass.

A - Pours darkest brown with slightly crimson edges and a creamy, khaki-colored head that settles to a slight haze, leaving behind sheets of sticky lacing.
S - Sweet malt, dark chocolate, and tart cherries. Pretty nice, reminds me of a cherry cordial.
T - Taste is pretty close to the nose, lots of dark malt, coffee, chocolate, and more tart cherries. Very similar to Bells Cherry Stout, which makes sense given the collaboration.
M - Smooth and a touch creamy, with a medium mouthfeel and fairly crisp carbonation.
O - A solid beer, and a nice take on the usual Bells Cherry Stout. I had this on-tap a couple of years ago, and this bottle didn't seem quite as good as it was then. Maybe my taste has just changed a bit.

Jan 12, 2012
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maximum12 from Minnesota

3.4/5  rDev -14.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Thanks to malty for dropping this into our annual in-person exchange of good beer at the Great Taste of the Midwest. Always a good five minutes. 750 ML bottle split into two tulips.

Pours dark brown. Interesting nose. Nice tart cherries welded to sweet fruitness. Belgian yeast, too.

Van Twee brings sour to the table that isn't so evident from the nose. Sweet, sugary, spicy yeast play footsy with cherries that are tart tart tart. The roast tilts are the cherry windmill...o-d-d-l-y. Clashing forcefully. Half a big bomber of this is more than enough.

Weird beer. I'm a huge fan of roast, & love a good fruit beer, but the combination here, with the Belgian characteristics, well, I applaud the unique effort, but just doesn't quite work for me. Pretty good brew.

Dec 15, 2011
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drpimento from Wisconsin

3.83/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured this fresh out of the fridge and a little cold. Got a huge, foamy, very frothy, textured light tan head that slowly settled and an amazing amount of very fine lace that totally enclosed the glass. Color is an almost opaque black brown except in the very thinnest part of the glass it seems to be a clear mahoganey. Flavor's similar in many ways to nose, but not nearly as good. At first it starts out wonderful with tart cherry flavored dark malt, but then there's a metallic flavor and some other off tastes. Body is good and carbonation started out good but then quickly goes kind of flat. Finish is like flavor ( and, I walked away from the beer for a while, which rounded & smoothed it out, plus seems to have eliminated the metallic part), understated, although heavier in bitterness than anything else. Not bad, not a hug fan. Proly good to cook with.

Nov 14, 2011
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barleywinefiend from Washington

4/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Poured a dark brown color with good carbonation and a tannish cap

S: Nice nose of chocolate, cherries and a little spice

T: Dominant chocolate covered cherries, dark fruits, with some light funk, toasted malt, burnt sugar, toffee. Sour cherries and spice with a hint at caramel

M: Big body, creamy mouthfeel with good carbonation.

O: A tasty beer

Nov 08, 2011
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Knapp85 from Pennsylvania

3.8/5  rDev -4.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

This beer poured as a nice reddish brown color with a light tan colored head that fades pretty quickly. The smell of this beer is a little sour on the nose but has other sweet malt aromas in there to kind of balance it out. It definitely smells like a sour brown ale though. The taste of the beer has a nice minimal tart cherry flavor upfront that softens out into a sweet nutty brown ale flavor in the aftertaste. It's got some nice transition to it for sure. The mouthfeel is slick, bubbly and dry. Overall it's a pretty good brew I think and worth trying.

Sep 26, 2011
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donkeyrunner from Massachusetts

4.3/5  rDev +8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A birthday gift from my ladyfriend.

Dark brown with a rocky, clay colored head. Some lacey stragglers left by a swirled, small bubble retention.

Aroma is sweet, tart cherry, brown sugar and tree bark.

Slightly tart cherry slides into dark fruit - (plum? currant? something like that). Brown sugar sweetness complements the tart cherry. Hints of cinnamon.

Earthy and beautifully balanced. A perfect desert beer and a perfect birthday present.

Sep 02, 2011
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beerandcycling88 from Washington

3.95/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Review number 100
Poured from a 750 ml bottle into a snifter.

A Pours a dark brown color with a tan head that has excellent retention. This is a nice looking one.

S Complex nose, there is a strong sour cherry note upfront with a funky barnyard brett undertone. Also a hint of malty chocolate. Pretty good nose.

T There is a lot going on here with some sour cherry, followed by funky brett, then chocolate followed by a lingering sourness. Very interesting and quite tasty. A little surprised that the brett is so mild.

M Creamy mouthfeel with good carbonation.

Overall this is a weird but very good beer that dispite all the extreme elements in it is quite mild and a pleasure to spend an evening sipping on. if it wasn't so much I would drink this again in a heartbeat.

Aug 08, 2011
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illidurit from California

3.5/5  rDev -12.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

750 mL bottle shared at the July Santa Cruz tasting. Pours a medium brown color with an ecru head. Aroma of soy, molasses, chalky chocolate, dark fruits. Flavor is cheap chocolate and sweet cherries, light coffee roastiness, low on brett influence, some assorted dark fruit accents, soy sauce. Kind of muddled and sweet. I'd like to revisit this after the brett gets settled in and maybe cleans it up a bit.

Jul 24, 2011
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brentk56 from North Carolina

3.95/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: The coffee colored liquid is topped by a massive beige head that leaves sheets of lacing behind

Smell: Chocolate-covered tart cherries, with a woody, musty character

Taste: Chocolate and brown bread, up front, with a developing sour cherry character that arrives by mid-palate; additional vinous fruit flavors add complexity, after the swallow, providing a plummy aspect

Mouthfeel: Medium bodied with low carbonation; somewhat flabby

Overall: For all of the elements that are in this beer, the Brett doesn't provide the anticipated sourness (particularly after some time spent in the cellar) nor do the Nelson Sauvin hops do much (although perhaps some of the vinous character is due to their inclusion); though I expected much more, it still is a decent and interesting brew

Jun 12, 2011
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SpeedwayJim from New York

2.89/5  rDev -27.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Courtesy of BBF 2010. Poured from a 750ml corked and caged bottle into Lost Abbey stemware.

A: Corked ejects with a loud and crisp pop. Standard pour yields a 1 finger dense, fine light mocha head with good retention. Beer is a semi-cloudy, dark, nearly opaque purple. Lacing is thick and patchy with nice cling. A really nice looking beer.

S: Nose reminds me of an infected stout but much less pungent. Sour cherry and smoked fresh plums and prunes. Also a hint of liquorice, clove, and cocoa powder. Some Belgian yeast spiciness in the background imparts a bit of sweetness. Not sure what to think of this really.

T: Opens sour cherry and smoked malt mixed with sour grapes and prunes. Awkward. Tart fruit continues to dominate as some chocolate, spices, and Belgian yeast flavors creep in towards the middle. Flavors integrate a bit better towards the end but a certain strange charred fruit character lingers. End is slightly sour and smoky with a burnt fruit finish and aftertaste. The flavors just don't work for me in this one.

M: Medium bodied with moderate carbonation. Smooth and silky with some bubbles in the mouth and yeasty and moderately lively going down. Finish is messy with a sticky, lingering aftertaste. Pretty standard overall though I'd expect a touch more carbonation from the style.

O: I can see where the brewers were going with this creation but the flavors just don't work for me. The sourness is a nice touch but it doesn't complement the Belgian fruitiness well here and the smokiness that I get is a bit weird. An interesting beer overall but not one I'd revisit.

Apr 27, 2011
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SkeeterHawk from Texas

4.1/5  rDev +3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Appearance: Even though there was practically zero off-gas after pulling the plastic cork, the beer poured with a huge 3+ finger head that grew after the pour. The beer itself is as dark as can be, but you can see at the edge of the glass that there are quite a few bubbles rising to keep the head standing strong over 3 inches. The foam is tan and very fluffy looking. Even 5 minutes after the pour, the head is barely starting to fall.

Aroma: I could pick up the cherries just from pouring the beer. The aroma is beautifully complex and reminds me of a Flanders Red with cherries and sweet toffee notes to the malt. That is about all I can get through this massive foam.

Taste: The flavor is not as complex as i expected from the aroma, but it is still a very well made beer. The cherries are absolutely unmistakable and they are living with a strong malt bill and very little hops. The cherries are showcased in this beer giving it a dessert-like quality. The finish is a little on the dry side with balance being provided as much by dark malts as any hops. I think that the cherries are adding a dimension of dryness to the finish as well. It also has a bit of an unusual taste left on the lips, like it was barrel aged, but I don't pick up the other supporting flavors to suggest that. The sweetness is what you have to linger in the finish.

Opinion: This is a pretty good beer. I am enjoying it. It doesn't have the complexity I would have liked, but I was expecting something bordering on sour from the aroma. It was a trip how they disconnected. If you throw some vinegar in here, may you can hit Rodenbach. I will absolutely finish the entire bottle, but I doubt that I will be buying this one again in the future. I am glad that I tried it.

Apr 14, 2011
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SolomonGrundy from California

4.13/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Apparently a collaboration with Bell's, this one is brewed in Belgium by De Proef...

The basics: $14.99/750ml bottle and 7.5% ABV...A touch pricey to be sure...

Still working off of last night's killer Death Angel concert....WHATEVER YOU DO, DO NOT MOSH AT THE LAST DAY SALOON!!!! It is grounds for immediate dismissal....freaking donks...

Looks great - beautiful head, very creamy and lots of lacing. Nice and dense brown. It's purty...

Nice sour ale components in the nose...Lots of dark stone fruit character: especially, imagine this, CHERRIES!!

Nice and creamy flavor...A very muted leathery, barynard thing...The malt is very forward. Carbonation is cleansing and wipes the palate clean after the initial, very warm malt flavor hits...Finish is super dry and hits home...Very good beer...Track it down...

What I like most: The luscious and warm and rich flavor profile...

What I like least: The price...

Verdict: Very expensive and that keeps it out of the top tier, but excellent and worth tracking down.

Apr 09, 2011
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impending from California

4.07/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

750ml into a tulip. Pours a deep garnet copper with a towering mocha toned head which recedes leaving excellent lacing.

Aroma begins as a porter of nearly stout proportion coupled with yeasty cherries and bitter sweet chocolate.

Would I say it without a clue, I dunno, but unmistakably a meld of a porter and a dubbel - both can be clearly discerned. The cherries announce at the start of the aftertaste which evolves significantly and is long lived, the bitter sweet chocolate quietly chimes in as well. The sour is tiny as is the brett. At room temp vinous qualities appear. Light bodied mouthfeel.


Apr 03, 2011
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HosP from Indiana

3.72/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

It's Saturday night, what better way to celebrate a Butler NCAA tourny win, then with a beer!! Got in a recent trade with Patchmaster. He always comes up with some good stuff. Thanks man!

A- Pours an almost black, dark dark brown. Nice thick light brown head. Slowly fades as throughout the glass. Lots of sticky lacing.

S- A nice tart cherry aroma right at the start. Very crisp to the nose. Gotta little brett wafting around in there too. Some spices at the end give it a nice finish.

T- So where did all the tart cherries go? Flavor didn't fufill the nose's expectations really. Very subdued flavors here. Slight cherry flavor at first but tartness turns to almost a metallic flavor. Some bitter hops pull the flavor back up a bit. It tails off pretty quick with some sweeter flavors with caramel malts. Wish the flavors would pop out more than they did.

M- Medium body. Good carbonation. Wasn't nearly as heavy as was expecting but still rather refreshing all in all.

D- Very easy to drink beer. Has some good flavors in it, just doesn't pack that punch really. I will still enjoy the beer while watching the games tonight. Thanks again Blair!

Mar 20, 2011
Van Twee (w/ John Mallett) from De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)
Beer rating: 89 out of 100 with 165 ratings