Van Twee (w/ John Mallett)
De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)

Van Twee (w/ John Mallett)Van Twee (w/ John Mallett)
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Style:
Brown Ale - Belgian Dark
ABV:
7.5%
Score:
89
Avg:
3.98 | pDev: 8.29%
Reviews:
132
Ratings:
165
From:
De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)
 
Belgium
Avail:
Retired (no longer brewed)
Wants
  9
Gots
  19
SCORE
89
Very Good
Van Twee (w/ John Mallett)Van Twee (w/ John Mallett)
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smithj4 from New York

4/5  rDev +0.5%

Nov 22, 2012
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Urbancaver from Ohio

3.99/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Opened as part of the Bell's 25th Anniversary Tasting
Reviewed off notes

Appearance- Pours almost maroon with minimal head. a bit of yeast trailing in the bottom of the bottle

Smell- smells of tart cherries. Smells a lot better than a year ago when I first had it

Taste- Cherries, belgian yeast... very odd combination

Mouthfeel- low carbonation, thick and a pretty good feel on the tongue

Drinkability- too much to be very drinkable. The cherries and yeast and other flavours blend fairly well (certainly better than when it was fresh) but overall not one of my favourites

Jan 14, 2011
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DovaliHops from California

4.02/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a dark brown with a medium off-white head that diminishes quickly. Aroma is very unique...unlike any beer I've had before. I get a little bit of funkiness from the Brett with a bit of sour cherry aroma. I also get a lot of chocolate and roasted malts as well. Very delightful and unique aroma. Taste is just as unique. The cherries definitely make themselves noticeable! Not as tart as was expecting and hoping for, but very mellow and well balanced. The sweet cherries blend well with the plentiful chocolate and roasted malts. A bit of "sour grape flavor" at the end, but not sour. The delicious yeasts used in this beer make it one of a kind and extremely complex. Mouthfeel is rich and smooth, but not to thick for this style. Well carbonated with a nice little bite at the end. Drinkability is fairly high for how rich this beer is. Interesting collaboration that is definitely worth trying!

Jan 11, 2011
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Knapp85 from Pennsylvania

3.8/5  rDev -4.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

This beer poured as a nice reddish brown color with a light tan colored head that fades pretty quickly. The smell of this beer is a little sour on the nose but has other sweet malt aromas in there to kind of balance it out. It definitely smells like a sour brown ale though. The taste of the beer has a nice minimal tart cherry flavor upfront that softens out into a sweet nutty brown ale flavor in the aftertaste. It's got some nice transition to it for sure. The mouthfeel is slick, bubbly and dry. Overall it's a pretty good brew I think and worth trying.

Sep 26, 2011
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BradleyBacon from Michigan

4.82/5  rDev +21.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

* A successful outcome vision, in bottle form *

Van Twee's characteristics are thoroughly described and best represented by comments other than mine; however, in an attempt to accoutrement what has already been said, my contribution is this:

My first bottle of Van Twee was eagerly given to me as a Christmas present this year from my girlfriend who works at Bell's Brewery in Kalamazoo, Michigan (USA).

I have met John Mallett, briefly and in-passing, on several occasions down at the pub; whether he's just getting off work and having a shifty, or standing behind you dressed-up for the annual Halloween party.

The thing is, the overall rating of "excellent" is a true story. Its a word that supports what I anticipated before even trying the beer (i.e., this is going to be excellent), and confirms what I already knew, from knowing John (i.e., he's an excellent guy).

Part of what you're tasting in that beer: notes of his charisma and energy; hints of his cleverness and affection for Michigan; and the artless aroma of his reflexive desire to share and explore this medium.

DISCLAIMER: I do not possess the great beer knowledge that comes standard with the typical Beer Advocate review; moreover, I am a crossbreed of "I know what I like" and "Does that taste funny to you?"

Jan 08, 2010
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wedgie9 from Tennessee

4.22/5  rDev +6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Tasted from a 750mL bottle at Lush Roscoe. Pours an almost black purple color with a hint of red shining through. The head is slightly off-white, pours thick but then recedes to decent lacing. The nose is cherries and charred meat with brett and milk chocolate. Flavor starts off dusty with the charred meats and brett up front, transitioning into cherries and then a dark roasted malt chocolate finish. The body is somewhat thick and oily with average carbonation and a nice roasted finish with cherries. This beer is very enjoyable and easy to drink.

Sep 27, 2010
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ShemRahBoo from New Jersey

4/5  rDev +0.5%

May 18, 2013
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jsanford from Georgia

3.53/5  rDev -11.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

750ml bottle pouted into a Tulip Glass.

A - Pours darkest brown with slightly crimson edges and a creamy, khaki-colored head that settles to a slight haze, leaving behind sheets of sticky lacing.
S - Sweet malt, dark chocolate, and tart cherries. Pretty nice, reminds me of a cherry cordial.
T - Taste is pretty close to the nose, lots of dark malt, coffee, chocolate, and more tart cherries. Very similar to Bells Cherry Stout, which makes sense given the collaboration.
M - Smooth and a touch creamy, with a medium mouthfeel and fairly crisp carbonation.
O - A solid beer, and a nice take on the usual Bells Cherry Stout. I had this on-tap a couple of years ago, and this bottle didn't seem quite as good as it was then. Maybe my taste has just changed a bit.

Jan 12, 2012
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impending from California

4.07/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

750ml into a tulip. Pours a deep garnet copper with a towering mocha toned head which recedes leaving excellent lacing.

Aroma begins as a porter of nearly stout proportion coupled with yeasty cherries and bitter sweet chocolate.
intoxicating

Would I say it without a clue, I dunno, but unmistakably a meld of a porter and a dubbel - both can be clearly discerned. The cherries announce at the start of the aftertaste which evolves significantly and is long lived, the bitter sweet chocolate quietly chimes in as well. The sour is tiny as is the brett. At room temp vinous qualities appear. Light bodied mouthfeel.

unusual
cheers
jd

Apr 03, 2011
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PeterIngemi from Massachusetts

4/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 750 ml into a duvel glass

A: pours a deep dark murky brown with two and a half fingers of browned head that sticks around for a bit.... Leavs tons of sticky lacing as it recedes, wouldve given the appearance a 4.5 but the head was pushing obnoxious.

S: sour cherry juice and earthy tart Brett funk right up
Front, this brew smells a lot more sour then I expected, which is not a bad thing. I also get a lift roasted note along with coffe
And chocolate from the Malts, smells interestingly delicious.

T: this has an interesting flavor profile, I deffinatly get the sour cheery and earthly brett up front but then in the backbone I get an interesting smoke note that blends into dark fruit, plums, slight prune, along with notes of chocaye and coffee, it makes sense that this is a mash up of a porter and a Dubbel... I also get notes of banna and apple mixed in there as well, and there is deffinatly a vinous character from the Brett, this is a very complex brew.

M: medium bodied with medium carbonation and a creamy porter like mouthfeel.

O: this is a very complex beer, it is a slightly sour cherry chocolate porter with dubbel like quad and Belgian sugar and yeast notes. Very complex, deffinatly an interesting
And different brew.

Aug 06, 2012
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HosP from Indiana

3.72/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

It's Saturday night, what better way to celebrate a Butler NCAA tourny win, then with a beer!! Got in a recent trade with Patchmaster. He always comes up with some good stuff. Thanks man!

A- Pours an almost black, dark dark brown. Nice thick light brown head. Slowly fades as throughout the glass. Lots of sticky lacing.

S- A nice tart cherry aroma right at the start. Very crisp to the nose. Gotta little brett wafting around in there too. Some spices at the end give it a nice finish.

T- So where did all the tart cherries go? Flavor didn't fufill the nose's expectations really. Very subdued flavors here. Slight cherry flavor at first but tartness turns to almost a metallic flavor. Some bitter hops pull the flavor back up a bit. It tails off pretty quick with some sweeter flavors with caramel malts. Wish the flavors would pop out more than they did.

M- Medium body. Good carbonation. Wasn't nearly as heavy as was expecting but still rather refreshing all in all.

D- Very easy to drink beer. Has some good flavors in it, just doesn't pack that punch really. I will still enjoy the beer while watching the games tonight. Thanks again Blair!

Mar 20, 2011
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superspak from Ohio

4.2/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

750 ml bottle into tulip glass; no bottle dating, but bottled in 2009. Pours fairly pitch black color with a 2 finger dense and fluffy tan head with great retention, that reduces to a small cap that lingers. Nice spotty soapy lacing clings around the glass. Aromas of tart cherry, dark chocolate, cocoa, coffee, toast, dark bread, molasses, licorice, raisin, prune, fig, light banana, clove, pepper, light smoke/char, and roast/yeast earthiness. Very nice aromas with good balance and complexity of dark/roasted malt, fruity/spicy yeast, and cherry juice notes; with good strength. Taste of lightly tart cherry, dark chocolate, cocoa, coffee, toast, dark bread, molasses, licorice, raisin, prune, fig, light banana, clove, pepper, light smoke/char, and roast/yeast earthiness on the finish. Fair amount of yeast spiciness and roasted bitterness on the finish; with lingering notes of dark chocolate, cocoa, coffee, toast, dark bread, molasses, dark fruit, clove, pepper, light smoke/char, and roast/yeast earthiness on the finish for a while. Incredible complexity and robustness of dark/roasted malt, fruity/spicy yeast, and light-moderate cherry juice flavors; with a great malt/yeast balance and zero cloying flavors after the finish. Medium-high carbonation and medium bodied; with a very smooth, moderately creamy, and lightly chalky/bready mouthfeel that is nice. Alcohol is very well hidden with zero warming presence after the finish. Overall this is an awesome Belgian strong dark ale/porter style! All around great complexity, robustness, and balance of dark/roasted malt, fruity/spicy yeast, and light-moderate cherry juice flavors; and very smooth to drink for the ABV. A highly enjoyable offering.

Mar 29, 2015
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beerandcycling88 from Washington

3.95/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Review number 100
Poured from a 750 ml bottle into a snifter.

A Pours a dark brown color with a tan head that has excellent retention. This is a nice looking one.

S Complex nose, there is a strong sour cherry note upfront with a funky barnyard brett undertone. Also a hint of malty chocolate. Pretty good nose.

T There is a lot going on here with some sour cherry, followed by funky brett, then chocolate followed by a lingering sourness. Very interesting and quite tasty. A little surprised that the brett is so mild.

M Creamy mouthfeel with good carbonation.

Overall this is a weird but very good beer that dispite all the extreme elements in it is quite mild and a pleasure to spend an evening sipping on. if it wasn't so much I would drink this again in a heartbeat.

Aug 08, 2011
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Gushue3 from Massachusetts

4.25/5  rDev +6.8%

Jun 24, 2012
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SolomonGrundy from California

4.13/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Apparently a collaboration with Bell's, this one is brewed in Belgium by De Proef...

The basics: $14.99/750ml bottle and 7.5% ABV...A touch pricey to be sure...

Still working off of last night's killer Death Angel concert....WHATEVER YOU DO, DO NOT MOSH AT THE LAST DAY SALOON!!!! It is grounds for immediate dismissal....freaking donks...

Looks great - beautiful head, very creamy and lots of lacing. Nice and dense brown. It's purty...

Nice sour ale components in the nose...Lots of dark stone fruit character: especially, imagine this, CHERRIES!!

Nice and creamy flavor...A very muted leathery, barynard thing...The malt is very forward. Carbonation is cleansing and wipes the palate clean after the initial, very warm malt flavor hits...Finish is super dry and hits home...Very good beer...Track it down...

What I like most: The luscious and warm and rich flavor profile...

What I like least: The price...

Verdict: Very expensive and that keeps it out of the top tier, but excellent and worth tracking down.

Apr 09, 2011
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outdoor7or24 from Georgia

4.38/5  rDev +10.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.5

750 ml bottle poured into sniffer, Phillip picked up for me at CBX, $16
A: pours a dark chocolate color, thin khaki foam head, some spotty lacing
S: incredible aroma, cherries, chocolate, grapes, slight Brett, Belgian candy sugar, fresh plums, hint of coffee.
M: medium syrupy body
T: cherry, tartness, chocolate, plum, banana from malt, Belgium candy sugar, barnyard funk from Brettanomyces, grape, dry sweet finish
O: complex and full of flavor, 5 stars in my book, this is a great sipper, would get another bottle to age.

Aug 05, 2013
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Faina from Massachusetts

3.5/5  rDev -12.1%

Jan 05, 2012
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THECPJ from Delaware

4/5  rDev +0.5%

Mar 14, 2012
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Jugs_McGhee from Louisiana

3.1/5  rDev -22.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

1 pint 9.4 fl oz brown glass bottle with hood and wire cap over a cork served into a Guinness goblet in me gaff in low altitude Los Angeles, California. Reviewed live. Expectations are very high; I think this is my first beer from Bell's Brewery. Cork is labelled "Bell 01". No best before date is visible. A so called "mash-up" of a porter and dubbel according to the label.

Served refrigerator cold and allowed to warm over the course of consumption. Side-poured as no carbonation issues are anticipated.

A: Pours a half finger head of nice cream, decent thickness, and average retention considering the ABV. Colour is a weak light solid black. No yeast particles are visible due to its opaque nontransparency.

Sm: Very yeasty, with sour cherry, bacteria, cream, hints of porter-esque chocolate, and subtle fruit esters: grapefruit and apple (of all things). A moderate strength aroma. Complex, but strange. I wouldn't call it appealing or unappealing.

T: Some sour cherry and yeast are the first things I notice. The portery notes - weak chocolate and cream - collide with the rest of the beer, unsettling the balance. I like the cherry. The hop fruit esters hardly come through at all even when I search for them. Some candied sugar. Biscuity malt. Dark malts. The cherry juice on the finish is nice. A strange taste all around. Full bodied. No alcohol comes through. It's pleasant but far from refreshing. I like it, but I'm not looking forward to downing a whole bottle of it. It isn't unique or special.

Mf: Some cream. Smooth and wet. Too thick. Adequately carbonated. Suits the flavours decently.

Dr: Drinkable to an extent - you wouldn't want a full bottle to yourself because it's neither particularly high in quality nor particularly refreshing. I like that they're experimenting, but this needs work. I wouldn't recommend this to friends, nor would I get it again. Extremely pricey for the limited quality. Hides it ABV well. A disappointment coming from brewers that are so respected. I hope Bell's other offerings are better.

Gets a bit better as it warms.

Drank fine out of me goblet. Perhaps a tulip or snifter is best.

I guess it'd age okay. It's not at a good starting point as is.

C+

Apr 06, 2012
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TheKingofWichita from North Carolina

3.3/5  rDev -17.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Tried at Sexual Chocolate 2011.
Pours a dark brown color with ruby highlights and thin brownish white head and a little lacing. Smells of a ton of tartness and cherry, not much else. Tastes of cherries, belgian yeast, and good hops and malt flavor. Mouthfeel is medium with a little carbonation. Drinkability is low.

Jan 30, 2011
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burnheartsMKE from Wisconsin

4.4/5  rDev +10.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

This guy kept changing as we drank. From nose to mouth to tongue to mid-tongue to back tongue to throat to belly, it just kept evolving. A really creative and well-put-together collaboration between two unique and experimental brewers. Reminded me a little of New Glarus' Unplugged: Olde English Porter if the sourness came from cherries. Chocolate, fruit sours & burnt spices made this something I'd love to meet again.

Mar 01, 2011
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acurtis from New Jersey

3.25/5  rDev -18.3%

Apr 14, 2013
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JRod1969 from New York

4.25/5  rDev +6.8%

Sep 06, 2013
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afsdan from Colorado

4.25/5  rDev +6.8%

May 22, 2014
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ThePerks from Maine

4.11/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Purchased at Ron's Market in Farmington, ME for $2.
Cellared for 6 months. Beer is 5 yrs old.

A: Poured into a Schlitz goblet. Dark brown, cola. Huge head that lingers. Lacing all the way down the glass.
S:Cherry, fig, other dark fruits.
T: Cherry juice! Great Brett funk.
M: Dry. Good carbonation. Not syrupy but a titch cloying. Really great fruit sloshed in with the Brett.

Overall, this beer is right in my wheelhouse. Good funk, aged nicely. Lots going on. Have another bottle. Will wait on that for awhile. I also couldn't pass up the $2 price. Ron's is sweet.

Jan 07, 2015
Van Twee (w/ John Mallett) from De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)
Beer rating: 89 out of 100 with 165 ratings