Van Twee (w/ John Mallett) | De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)

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Van Twee (w/ John Mallett)Van Twee (w/ John Mallett)

Brewed by:
De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)

Style: Belgian Dark Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 7.50%

Availability: Rotating

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Added by memyselfandi on 08-01-2009

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Ratings: 165 |  Reviews: 132
Photo of BradleyBacon
4.82/5  rDev +21.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

* A successful outcome vision, in bottle form *

Van Twee's characteristics are thoroughly described and best represented by comments other than mine; however, in an attempt to accoutrement what has already been said, my contribution is this:

My first bottle of Van Twee was eagerly given to me as a Christmas present this year from my girlfriend who works at Bell's Brewery in Kalamazoo, Michigan (USA).

I have met John Mallett, briefly and in-passing, on several occasions down at the pub; whether he's just getting off work and having a shifty, or standing behind you dressed-up for the annual Halloween party.

The thing is, the overall rating of "excellent" is a true story. Its a word that supports what I anticipated before even trying the beer (i.e., this is going to be excellent), and confirms what I already knew, from knowing John (i.e., he's an excellent guy).

Part of what you're tasting in that beer: notes of his charisma and energy; hints of his cleverness and affection for Michigan; and the artless aroma of his reflexive desire to share and explore this medium.

DISCLAIMER: I do not possess the great beer knowledge that comes standard with the typical Beer Advocate review; moreover, I am a crossbreed of "I know what I like" and "Does that taste funny to you?"

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Photo of BeerFMAndy
4.54/5  rDev +14.6%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

750 ml corked and caged bottle split and poured into a Duvel tulip. 7.5% ABV, Bell 01 printed on cork.

Thanks to Sweemzander for bringing this over.

A - Clear dark brown on the pour but almost black in the glass. A dense light khaki head pops up and lowers slowly leaving the classic Belgian lace in rings on the glass.

S - Wow. Very interesting and intoxicating aroma of barnyard funk like horse blanket and damp straw. Dark candi sugar pokes through with porter-like roasted malts and light hints of cherry. The balance on the nose is impeccable.

T - The way the flavor moves fluidly though the changes is fantastic. A Belgian dark ale of deep fruity notes blends seamlessly with a roasted porter taste of toasted and roasted malts and the cherry flavor. Then it ends with a barnyard funk less powerful than the nose. More balanced with the rest of the flavors adding a touch of wet straw and horse blanket.

M - Medium-full bodied with a light funk and a mild cherry tart finish. Smooth and almost silky down the tongue.

D - Splitting a bottle of this is no problem since the balance of flavors is fantastic and it's smooth. Very good. The flavor profile is unique in that it's half Belgian and half American porter almost.

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Photo of BeerShirts
4.51/5  rDev +13.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

A. Great head retention. Very dark with not much like escaping its grasp
S.CHERRY! it really hit my nose stronger then any other part.
T. I first am hit by roasted malt. After that there is a bitter after taste that I am putting it to be a factor of the cherry.
M. Very carbonated. Almost as much as Pepsi or some other soda pop. For a darker beer this is not what I was thinking it would be.
D. I could drink this on a regular basis for sure. Not saying every day but a couple time a month i would be okay by me.

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Photo of Beerenauslese
4.5/5  rDev +13.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a dark blackish brown with a nice ample tan head that stays awhile, with lots of lacing.

Smells of sweet chocolate and sour cherries. I am thinking of a chocolate cherry torte. Or as the label says, envision a cherry filled Belgian chocolate.

Tastes of sour cherries, roasted malt, milk chocolate, and light coffee. A bit of ginger. Not sweet, just a little sour, very nicely balanced. A little hops on the finish.

Mouthfeel is full and light. Highly carbonated, it bursts in the mouth. Very palate cleansing, and finishes a little dry, like a good champagne.

This is a very drinkable brew, especially if you like a direct taste sensation of chocolate and cherries in a beer. With the strong carbonation, it is light and very refreshing. It strikes me as a dark lambic and I am liking that a lot.

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Photo of thebouch01
4.5/5  rDev +13.6%

Photo of TurdFurgison
4.5/5  rDev +13.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

750mL bottle, corked & caged, $14.99 from the Andersons store in NW Columbus. I bought it the day it went on the shelves, and haven't seen any more since (I think it sold out that day).

The label lists some good info about the collaboration and the ingredients: Sour dark cherries from Michigan, Belgian candi sugar, New Zealand Nelson Sauvin hops, bottling sugar from MI sugar beets. More: "Broadly a cherry-infused mash-up of the porter and dubbel styles, brewed to an original gravity of 1.072 and fermented with several strains of yeast".

The beer is dark brown and opaque, big poofy tan foam, almost a solid layer of froth. The first whiff brings to mind a Flanders Bruin style of beer, sour and tart with some light funk. The taste is spectacular, so much more than any old Belgian dark ale. Mouth puckering cherries and brett, chocolate malts, so delicious, just damn. Exceptionally drinkable sour style beer, the flavor keeps drawing me to the glass.

This is addictive, I wish I'd bought a few bottles. The price tag held me back, but if I'd known how good it would be...

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Photo of timtim
4.5/5  rDev +13.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

wow. super dark red black with a lucious pink hued tan head that holds very well and leaves tons of lace. the nose reminds me of the sweet chocolate covered cherries with the mild liquer syrup inside. also hints of funk. roasty, malty goodness and lightly roasted coffee. really cooll, because i feel like the taste is sour cherry, sour, funky yeastiness, dark chocolate and roasty malt and coffee. kind of like a cherry flavored mocha cappucino with sour, vinous belgian yum added. i think it rocks. medium-full. long, tannic like finish. great collaboration. really great series so far.

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Photo of rtepiak
4.47/5  rDev +12.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

quite a unique culmination of flavors. pour is quite a murky near opaque brown. a nose of some really musky yeast... like a pair of new leather shoes. buckwheat, chocolate, smokey wood and dark fruit... cherry and fig mostly. palate is cocoa bean, buckwheat, mild sour... that or smokiness and cherry tart. chocolate malt also. chrysanthemum and something of a bitterness of a bark in a yin tonic. really a fantastic opportunity to drink. very special beer. game meat beer. with warmth comes a lot of chocolate malt and lots of blackberry.

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Photo of kiddynamite920
4.47/5  rDev +12.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A: Pours a very dark brown with a very nice looking light brown head. Thick and clumpy lacing is beginning early. As the head thins, the lacing thins.

S: Glorious Brett. Super tart cherries with some dark sweet cherries. The Brett keeps the aroma super crisp and citrusy. Some spice of clove and anise. The Michigan cherries really are splendid in this. Funky yeast with tart cherries is certainly a match made in heaven. The funkiness isn't necessarily to the barnyard extent, but it is funky for sure.

T: Was expecting a puckering beer from what I picked up on the aroma. Instead I found not-so-tart cherries, even some dark malts and bitter hops. Citrus and grassiness come from the yeast, followed by some funk and barnyard. There are some caramel notes and a brown sugar type taste. Very complex beer.

M: Great carbonation, body is very delicate yet doesn't fall short. Very crisp and refreshing, was expecting something dark and heavy. Suppose this is a bit off the style that it is categorized as, but cant fault it for that. This beer is fantastic.

D: This beer would go as well with any beer dinner as any of the RR sours. Exceptional beer, and a fantastic collaboration. Thank Jeebus for tart Michigan cherries and fantastic funky yeast. Will definitely be picking up more of this if the opportunity presents itself. The price tag is high, nearing $20 for 750 ml, but it is definitely worth it.

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Photo of tmoneyba
4.45/5  rDev +12.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured clear reddish brown color with a large frothy brown head that was mostly lasting with excellent lacing. Moderate to heavy chocolate, banana and soft cherry aroma. Medium to full body with a smooth texture and flat carbonation. Medium to heavy complex sweet flavor with a medium to heavy sweet finish of moderate duration. My expectations where met by a complex good beer.

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Photo of twiggamortis420
4.42/5  rDev +11.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

750 mL bottle pours a dark brown color with some ruby highlights. Fairly small, tan foam fades at an average clip and leaves plenty of lacing.

Nose is chocolate covered raisins and cherry yogurt...Interesting...and good. Dont get a whole lot of brett, but still complex with lots of other dark fruits and a touch of bready yeast - almost trappist like.

Mmmm, taste provides many layers to unfold. Lots of tart cherries, dark chocolate and light fruits - maybe even kiwi. I like the fact it is not sweet, dark malts do a nice balancing act with the brett and cherries. Even a little grassy hops poke through at the very end. Drying tartness and acidity leave a lasting impression on the finish. This seems like a bold experiment, but De Proef and Bell's have pulled it off with flying colors here. The ingredients have magically blended together almost perfectly. Even at the steep $18 price tag, I would consider buying this again.

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Photo of burnheartsMKE
4.4/5  rDev +11.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

This guy kept changing as we drank. From nose to mouth to tongue to mid-tongue to back tongue to throat to belly, it just kept evolving. A really creative and well-put-together collaboration between two unique and experimental brewers. Reminded me a little of New Glarus' Unplugged: Olde English Porter if the sourness came from cherries. Chocolate, fruit sours & burnt spices made this something I'd love to meet again.

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Photo of outdoor7or24
4.38/5  rDev +10.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.5

750 ml bottle poured into sniffer, Phillip picked up for me at CBX, $16
A: pours a dark chocolate color, thin khaki foam head, some spotty lacing
S: incredible aroma, cherries, chocolate, grapes, slight Brett, Belgian candy sugar, fresh plums, hint of coffee.
M: medium syrupy body
T: cherry, tartness, chocolate, plum, banana from malt, Belgium candy sugar, barnyard funk from Brettanomyces, grape, dry sweet finish
O: complex and full of flavor, 5 stars in my book, this is a great sipper, would get another bottle to age.

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Photo of Mora2000
4.35/5  rDev +9.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours dark brown/red with a huge khaki head that lingers. The aroma is some slight funk as well as tart cherry and candi sugar. The taste is incredibly complex. The progression seems to be sour, Belgian Dubbel, coffee then sour with a cherry aftertaste. Not a very sweet ber. Medium mouthfeel and medium-high carbonation. Great collaboration that finishes very dry. Gets more sour as it warms.

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Photo of Reagan1984
4.32/5  rDev +9.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Was fortunate enough to have this at the Brick Store pub last week. As a nice gesture the management provided the bottle to us, which we split with a couple members of the staff. I had no expectations as I dove into my glass, but I loved this beer. A touch funky, a lot of cherry and a lot of deep complexity. Really a nice beer.

Light tan head forms that is very light in texture and almost fluffy. Does eventually settle, leaving spider web lacing in the glass. The beer is a deep brown color with some ruby highlights..

Aroma, is of cherry, dark fruits, yeast and spice. Almost detect that it could be sour in nature.

Huge amount of complexity on the flavor. Your not sure what to think until at least your 4th sip. Once acclimated to the flavors, you can dive in and explore the different flavors. Certainly cherry takes center stage. Slight tartness, but not sour. Some oak character, but I have no idea if this is wood aged at all. Lots of yeast and spice and then other dark fruits. Figs and plums come to mind.

What's funny is that you can start to match carbonation with the type of head on a beer. The head had those delicate bubbles and I am finding this almost always is with an effervescent almost champagne like carbonation.. It made the body seem lighter than it was. Probably medium bodied. I think the carbonation highlighted the cherry character nicely.

I really enjoyed this beer and would seek it out again.

Thanks to the Brick Store Pub for allowing me to enjoy this beer.

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Photo of glid02
4.3/5  rDev +8.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

On-tap at the Brick Store.

Pours a dark brown color with a 1.5-finger tan head. The head recedes into a thin layer on top leaving solid lacing.

Smells of tart cherries with hints of earthy hops. As the beer warms the cherry aromas become a bit more tart and hints of funk enter into things.

Tastes similar to how it smells, unlike the bottle I recently had. Dark malt flavors up front are joined almost immediately by loads of tart cherry flavors. Midway through the sip flavors imparted from brett make a muted appearance before giving way to the cherry flavors to carry on through to a crisp and mildly bitter ending. After the beer warms the ending changes a bit and very light roasted malt flavors linger on the palate.

Mouthfeel is good. It has a solid thickness with moderate carbonation.

Drinkability is very good. I finished my glass quicklky and could easily have another.

Overall I was very surprised how much the tap version differed from the bottle. I have to say that with the tap version the flavor profile has surpassed the aroma for complexity whereas the bottle version was the opposite. Both were very good beers however and I recommend giving this one a shot no matter where you see it.

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Photo of donkeyrunner
4.3/5  rDev +8.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A birthday gift from my ladyfriend.

Dark brown with a rocky, clay colored head. Some lacey stragglers left by a swirled, small bubble retention.

Aroma is sweet, tart cherry, brown sugar and tree bark.

Slightly tart cherry slides into dark fruit - (plum? currant? something like that). Brown sugar sweetness complements the tart cherry. Hints of cinnamon.

Earthy and beautifully balanced. A perfect desert beer and a perfect birthday present.

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Photo of champ103
4.28/5  rDev +8.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A: Pours a dark brown, nearly black. A large beige head rises to over two fingers, and gently recedes to a ring. Rings of sticky spiderweb lace is left behind.
S: Funky barnyard aromas and yeast. Slightly sour and tart fruits. A light sweet cherry aroma with some other dark fruits. I thought there would be a bigger cherry aroma. Still, really good.
T: Funky barnyard flavors and yeast that follow the nose. Lightly tart and sour. Lots of sweet chocolate covered cherries though.
M/D: A full body that is low on the carbonation. Creamy and smooth. Easy to drink. A am not having any problems finishing the bottle.

This is a really good Belgian fruit beer. This is a good desert beer. It tastes like real cherries were used, and not artificial syrup that I loath so much in other beers of the style (I am looking at you Kasteel Rouge). Something I would highly recommend.

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Photo of jgasparine
4.28/5  rDev +8.1%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A- An aggressive pour from the bottle yielded a massive billowing head- actually 3/4 of the glass was creamy khaki-colored foam, and only 1/4 was beer! The head became exceedingly rocky as it subsided, leaving some INCREDIBLY sticky and proteinaceous lacing behind. The body was an opaque dark brown. No carbonation visible from the sides of the glass after the initial cascading from the pour subsided.

S- A nice funky, vinous, estery and malty nose, reminiscent of a fine kriek-accented flanders brown. Impressions of candy malt, faint barnyard, lactic acid, burnt candy sugar, and stone fruit. Incredibly deep and complex.

T- Disappointingly muted once on the palate [when served cool]. All components detected on the nose are there, but much more mild than anticipated. The finish just falls-off after each swallow. There's some metallic notes on the palate that were not anticipated from the nose. HOWEVER, It opened up a lot as the beer warmed... substantially more Brett than I remember when having it on tap; all the malty, estery, and candy sugar notes begin to hold-their-own. Once warmed to room temperature, it delivers that complexity, with a nice dry finish.

M- A medium to large body. Slightly creamy in texture. The carbonation is abundant, yet soft.

D- Goes down really easy. The alcohol is very well hidden. I intend to kill this 750ml bottle on my own tonight! DEFINITELY DRINK THIS ONE AT ROOM TEMPERATURE!

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4.25/5  rDev +7.3%

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4.25/5  rDev +7.3%

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4.25/5  rDev +7.3%

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4.25/5  rDev +7.3%

Photo of nobes341
4.25/5  rDev +7.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A: A very nice dark ruby. Poured from the bottle with a 1 or 2cm of big bubbled head that fades slowly.

S: Huge cherries initially float easily from my glass as it sits 2 feet away from me. Some funky, fruity notes are also apparent. A mild raisiny aroma is also there hanging out. There's also a slightly medicinal scent in the background somewhere that I can't hone in on.

T: Cherries hog the palette right away. Followed shortly after by a very mild alcoholic warming. It isn't intrusive, it just pops in for a moment and stays there under the sheets. There's also some caramel malts present and a touch of roastiness on the malt back. The medicinal (off?) flavor comes in slightly after a few sip, slurp, gulp combinations. [Maybe a stronger presence of Ethyl Phenol?] It's a slightly Chloraseptic flavor that isn't necessarily off putting. It's scary to read "medicinal" when describing a beer's taste, but it's not "bad" in this instance.

M: Highly effervescent, swishing it around in your mouth releases a lot of carbonation. Medium to full body, but not so heavy that it feels like a big beer.

D: Very drinkable beer. It isn't so complex that you have to wait for it to "finish" before you take another sip and not so simple that you keep going back to maintain that "tongue high". It just does its job.

Overall: Try this beer. If you're trying to decide between Monstre Rouge (another De Proef collaboration) and Van Twee, go for the Monstre Rouge, but this one is definitely worthy to sit on the shelf next to it. If you're a fan of the cherry blended style of beers (For instance, Unibroue's Quelque Chose), you will enjoy this beer.

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Photo of MatthewWilde
4.25/5  rDev +7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Sample: 1 bottle 2009 (aged 3 years)

A: Almost completely dark with a deep ruby edge halo, pours a sturdy light brown head that is quite intrepid, moderate internal carbonation, unknown translucency

S: A very complex nose, heavy cherries and dried fruits, some vanilla and sugar cane, even some espresso elements rounded off with a touch of alcohol, quite fragrant

T: A flavor as complex and delicious as the nose, dried fruits, cherries, espresso, malt, chocolate, a bit of funk, almost tastes exactly like a chocolate covered cherry, no alcohol, very flavorful

M: Incredibly smooth, melts in the mouth, perfectly balanced, drinkable, easy on the palate, light fruity aftertaste, not drying in the slightest

O: Nice to look at, fragrant, flavorful, smooth, and complex, one of the better beers I've experienced, definitely worth a try (may have already peaked but still pretty amazing)

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