Van Twee (w/ John Mallett) | De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)

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Van Twee (w/ John Mallett)Van Twee (w/ John Mallett)
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)
Belgium
proefbrouwerij.com

Style: Belgian Dark Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 7.50%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

Added by memyselfandi on 08-01-2009

BEER STATS
Ratings:
165
Reviews:
132
Avg:
3.96
pDev:
8.33%
 
 
Wants:
10
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19
For Trade:
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Ratings: 165 |  Reviews: 132
Photo of rye726
4.13/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours dark brown with a raspberry tint and some lace.

Nose has bready malts, ripe pitted fruits, tart cherries, chocolate and a subtle funk.

Taste has wild cherries, sweet malts, cocoa and a hint of funky yeast.

Medium body is nicely carbonated, a bit thin in the finish. Not the same quality as the Allagash or Lost Abbey collaborations. Should develop nicely with age.

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Photo of oldhippie247
4/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a very dark brown with great tan head.

Initial aromas are a nice balance of Brett, sour fruit, and roasted malt.

Aromas follow through on the palate, but perhaps a bit heavy on the Brett. Taste is very similar to the first two De Proef collaborations, with the addition of some darker malt nuances.

Though not blown away, I definitely reccommend this beer. Very rare, so pick it up if you can find it.

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Photo of champ103
4.28/5  rDev +8.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A: Pours a dark brown, nearly black. A large beige head rises to over two fingers, and gently recedes to a ring. Rings of sticky spiderweb lace is left behind.
S: Funky barnyard aromas and yeast. Slightly sour and tart fruits. A light sweet cherry aroma with some other dark fruits. I thought there would be a bigger cherry aroma. Still, really good.
T: Funky barnyard flavors and yeast that follow the nose. Lightly tart and sour. Lots of sweet chocolate covered cherries though.
M/D: A full body that is low on the carbonation. Creamy and smooth. Easy to drink. A am not having any problems finishing the bottle.

This is a really good Belgian fruit beer. This is a good desert beer. It tastes like real cherries were used, and not artificial syrup that I loath so much in other beers of the style (I am looking at you Kasteel Rouge). Something I would highly recommend.

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Photo of emerge077
3.93/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Sustained pop, tried to get the cork to fly, nothing more than a couple feet though. Open bottle had a musty leather aroma with a distinct cherry note.

Amazingly dense ruffled tan foam. Hangs around, leaving globs all around the edges. Body is black with a mahoghany glint.

Faint roast and coffee notes linger in the aftertaste. Cherry tartness in the beginning, all natural from the fruit. Well integrated, supple and mellow. Tasty with a nice lingering black cherry porter impression. Recommend splitting a bottle, but it could be finished solo.

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Photo of Onibubba
3.63/5  rDev -8.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Large beige head on all three pours. Pretty good retention too. Dark brown, looks like a good dubbel. Smells like one too. Not getting an awful lot of cherry, but some chocolate notes. Not much funk, if at all. Taste is quite sweet, again, more chocolate the anticipated sour cherry. If this is a brett laced beer, it does not assert itself. Mouthfeel is thinner than I would have thought, but carbonation is under control and it all goes down very smoothly. Alcohol is not noticeable. All and all, a tasty beer, but not the beer that I was expecting. Not a repeat pruchase either. Good but not great.

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Photo of brownbeer
4.2/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A- Pours an opaque brown color with a thick tan head. Looks very nice.

S- A bit of bretty band-aid kicks off the nose. Then, underneath you find chocolate truffle, biscuit, pepper, and a kind of lactose sweetness.

T- Seems tart as it hits the tongue then turns earthy, chocolately(similar to a porter), light funk. Not as much cherry as I expected but not a bad thing.

M- Frothy and milky with a lighter full body.

D- Very unique, probably not for everyone. For me, rich and drinkable and I want to revisit this in a year or two to see where the brett takes it.

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Photo of Bierguy5
4.13/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

750 ml bottle, 7.5% abv. Pours a murky brown color, close to mahogany. Thick beige head with excellent retention. Some nice patches of lace coating the sides.

Dark cherry in the nose, apples and other fruits. A hint of a yeasty note. Lots of depth in the nose. A bit of an earthy note at the end.

Sweet and tart cherry notes first. The cherry seems to meld with a small amount of chocolate. Some nice fruity notes blend in well. Soft earthy and yeasty notes round things out.

Medium body, very soft carbonation. Alcohol is well hidden. Nice blend of fruity flavors. Very enjoyable.

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Photo of mcallister
4.22/5  rDev +6.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours with considerable carbonation and a dirty opaque brown tootsie roll color. Head is large and hangs around.

Very nice aromas of chocolate, cherry, dark fruits, sweet bready malts, with hints of tobacco and lead pencil.

Very easy on the palate and drinkable. Creamy mouth milk chocolatey a bit of spent coffee grains, tart cherry, a very slight alcohol bite, a black mission fig flavor towards the finish that brings the sweet malts to a front.

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Photo of MasterSki
3.73/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to bkrefetz for sending a bottle of this my way. Served (appropriately) in a Bell's tulip.

A - Huge foam on this brew - three-plus fingers that dissipates slowly and leaves tons of patchy lacing. Dark brown opaque color. Good looking stuff.

S - Sour cherries, funky horse blanket, roastiness, a touch of cocoa, maybe a bit of lemon. Really odd combination of aromas, and I'm not entirely sure they work together. Still, it's potent and interesting.

T - The taste starts out pretty good, with milk chocolate and cherry flavors, but the finish is a weird plastic and metallic flavor that lingers before dissipating to some bretty funkiness. If it didn't have that weird finish it'd be pretty good, but that plastic flavor is very distracting. Well-hidden booze.

M - Medium-thick body, moderate carbonation, smooth velvety texture, dry finish. I'm not getting overcarbonated like some other reviewers, but it's nothing special either.

D - I found 8oz of this one to be sufficient. It's an interesting experiment, but that weird taste in the finish is so irritating that it ruins an otherwise solid brew. I like this more than the Tomme Arthur collaboration, but not as much as the Jason Perkins.

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Photo of Sammy
4/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle at Cole's. a unique experience. Thae aroma is oregeno and Balsamic vinegar and other salad oil, pleasant really. Dark brown, with a white head, that becomes lighter in brown through the bottle. The taste of chocolate malt, yes gooseberries and understated cherry as in Choocolate bars. Much lace, poetic combinations of it. Some interesting sweetness. Smooth. Incredible balance for it all.

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Photo of RRC87
3.95/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Appearance: Pours a dark almost opaque. Has a minimal head, which has great retention.
Smell: Has a mild sour taste with a strange funk that is like nothing I have ever experienced before.
Taste: Starts out with a mild hint of caramelized malt, which proceeds to an overwhelming taste of sour cherries (which only makes since). The funk that was so prevalent in the aroma is reduced to a supporting role that can only be detected in the after taste.
Mouth feel: I was surprised by how carbonated this was for how dark it is. This beer is very dry and leaves the drinker almost thirstier than they were before drinking.
Drinkability: This beer is fairly drinkable. It would be impossible to drink this beer quickly or for an extended period of time, but a bottle a night would be extremely doable.

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Photo of BeerShirts
4.51/5  rDev +13.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

A. Great head retention. Very dark with not much like escaping its grasp
S.CHERRY! it really hit my nose stronger then any other part.
T. I first am hit by roasted malt. After that there is a bitter after taste that I am putting it to be a factor of the cherry.
M. Very carbonated. Almost as much as Pepsi or some other soda pop. For a darker beer this is not what I was thinking it would be.
D. I could drink this on a regular basis for sure. Not saying every day but a couple time a month i would be okay by me.

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Photo of Patrick999
4.03/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured into a small goblet. I had this at a tasting, but wanted to hold off reviewing until I could sit down with it and really dig in. So, here goes.

In the glass, it shows a deep brown, formidable head.

The cherry component is really coming out in the aroma. Very ripe and sweet cherry, my mouth puckers in anticpation. It smells like a kriek. I can't get too much of the roasty porter portion of this beer. Maybe a little raisin owing to the dubbel, but that's about it. To me right now, it's smelling like a kriek.

Now this is interesting...on the palate, it's certainly not a kriek. Some tobacco, earthy hop seems to strike first along with a little rush of cherry juice. Finish seems to be coffee with chocolate notes. To me, the overall effect is that of a chocolate covered cherry paired with coffee. It is ambitious, and quite tasty.

When I tasted this at a tasting, I thought it was overcarbonated. I'm thankful that now, it doesn't seem to be nearly as overcarbonated as I thought. It isn't all that lush and creamy, but it definitely isn't as harsh as I thought.

A very ambitious brew here with a lot to offer. That said, it is not a quick drinker. It's one to sip and savor, as there is a lot going on. This is a nice, very different addition to the DeProef collaboration series.

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Photo of JohnQVegas
4.15/5  rDev +4.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle into red wine glass.

Pours dark brown, bordering on black, almost cola-like with some patchy bubbles clinging to the sides of the glass, with a towering, 3 finger, dense head that clings to the sides of the glass as it descends. Big gaping bubbles open up on the top and sides as it slowly settles into a dense foamy cap. Fantastic foamy lacing left on the walls of the glass - reminiscent of the foam on a root beer float.

Nose comes out with bright brett first - lemons and green apples segue into a bit of underlying cherry. A dry, delicious cocoa note, lightly roasty, sits underneath. Fantastically complex nose - love it.

Taste is a mesh of dry, earthy, lemony brett, green apples, bit of white grape, some lactic sourness, dry, lightly roasty cocoa, and juicy sour cherries. Nothing separates from anything else - the cocoa is wrapped around the brett and lactic notes, and the cherry is inseparable from both. Finish is long, lightly bretty and a bit sour, juicy from the cherry, bit of dry roasty malt - everything in the flavor just fades a bit, though slowly. A lot going on, and very good, though it doesn't quite have that perfect synergy that the previous De Proef Collaboration renditions showed off. Has some serious aging potential, however.

Mouthfeel is nice, light, juicy, a bit dry and powdery at points.

Drinkability is middle of the road really. A lot going on, very complex, but not an easily absorbed drink - just so much going on, and some of it quite challenging. No alcohol present to distract.

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Photo of mwilbur
4.15/5  rDev +4.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

My expectations are high as I have had other brews in this collaboration series!
Poured from 750 mL bottle into snifter.
A: Pours an opaque brown with huge 2-3 inch billowy dark tan head. Nice lacing and retention.
S: The brett is immediately apparent, but not overpowering. Tart lemon, cherry juice, roasted malt, and chocolate play around on the nose. Very nice.
T: A bit of a jumble...but a good one. Cherry, roasted malt, tart brett, hint of citrus and pear. Maybe a little banana and spice. The wide ranging tastes clash a bit too much. The premise was good, but perhaps they tried to do a bit too much here.
1/7/11 addendum: Nice smooth dark cherry with dark chocolate, hint of melon. Definitely has settled down, become more focused, and nicely so. Still a solid brew, has matured nicely.
11/10/12 addendum: Age has definitely helped smooth things out here. Much better with some age...the brett, fruit, and spice have settled down and evened out with the cherry, chocolate, and melon notes. Would give this a 4.5 now.
M: Soft and smooth with the faintest hint of alcohol bite. Tart brett lingers.
D: Definitely a solid and drinkable brew. I'm glad I got a few of these and would recommend seeking this out. I like the inventiveness and innovation. That said, it certainly isn't the all-star of this series (my vote would have to go to last year's amazing brew).
11/10/12 addendum: Give this one some age and it will reward you. It has held up amazingly well considering the 7.5% ABV. Would give this a 4.5 now. Hope I can find another one.

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Van Twee (w/ John Mallett) from De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)
3.96 out of 5 based on 165 ratings.
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