Flanders Fred (w/ Alan Sprints) | De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)

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Brewed by:
De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)
Belgium | website

Style: Belgian Strong Pale Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 7.50%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
The sixth edition of the De Proef Brewmaster’s Collaboration Series is our first blended beer. Legendary brewer, Alan Sprints of Hair of the Dog joins Dirk Naudts at De Proef to create this unique bottle conditioned beer. Flanders Fred is a blend of Flanders-sourced lambic with a collaboratively-brewed version of the famous Hair of the Dog Fred.

The result is a deep golden ale topped with a creamy off white head. The nose is complex with notes of lemon, pine, tropical fruits and spice. The palate is rich and layered with toffee, apricot and almond, balanced by some green apple, a hoppy bitterness and barnyard funk.

Please enjoy Flanders Fred with food and friends. This beer should pair very well with many cheeses, roasted vegetables and grilled meats. We believe this bottle will continue to evolve beautifully over the next few years, adding a subtle blending of the flavors.

Cheers from Portland and Flanders!
Alan & Dirk

Added by mwilbur on 07-08-2012

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Photo of colts9016
3.2/5  rDev -23.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

The beer is at 52 degrees

A foamy light tan head that is one finger thick the head dissipates to a thin line. The color of the beer is a deep rich amber mahogany color with rich burnt orange hues. The clarity of the beer is slightly opaque with some carbonation bubbles wafting through the beer.

The nose of the beer is mega fruity with cherry notes, also a sour note is prevalent. . The malt is toasty and caramelized. A honey and pepper note come in from the background.

Okay this beer comes off as a flanders style beer not a Strong Belgium Pale Ale. The yeast is a strong note, sour cherries, toasty malt, oranges, perfume, bready and very little hop flavors

the mouth feel is sour, carbonated, and clean

This beer is more of flanders/ farmhouse style beer with a strong sour cherry note; therefore I will judge as such. I have tasted much better farmhouse style ales. this one is decent.

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Photo of kojevergas
3.49/5  rDev -16.1%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Served on-draught into a stem-tulip at the Muddy Pig in St. Paul. Reviewed from notes taken earlier this month.

A: Pours a half finger khaki colour head of nice cream and thickness, and okay retention. Body colour is a hazy nontransparent tangerine. No yeast particles are visible. No bubble show.

Sm: Funky lactic yeast, bright fermented fruit, and pale malts. An above average aroma.

T: Nicely funky, even a touch tart on the climax. Pale clean malt foundation. Crisp. Fruity and balanced. Pleasant and enjoyable.

Mf: Luscious, full, clean, smooth, and wet. Good carbonation. Crisp. Tasty. Great mouthfeel.

Dr: Very drinkable and enjoyable. I'd have it again. A surprise success from De Proef. A delightful brew.

High B-

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Photo of Hoptometrist
3.55/5  rDev -14.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Served on tap into a nonic glass at 16 Tons

A- Poured a murky amber color with an off-white soapy head that dissipated instantly and left no lace

S- Big funky green apple. barnyard funk, and vinegar notes in the aroma

T- Big funky green apple and apple juice notes, vinegar, lactic sweetness, barnyard funk, and nail polish astrigency. Interesting mix of sour and bitter in the flavor profile.

M- Effervescent, very dry, high carbonation, lots of lactic acid and sourness

O- Some really nice flavors, but it did not quite mesh for me. The mix of sourness and bitterness helped cut one another, but was not totally pleasant. Not a bad beer, but nothing I would get again.

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Photo of coreyfmcdonald
3.58/5  rDev -13.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

750ml bottle into a snifter

A: Pours a cloudy light amber color with two fingers of pillowy head. Retention is great.

S: Much more mild than I thought it'd be - very light lactic sourness balanced by caramel malts. A mild spiciness as well, seemingly from the yeast. I don't get much else. Good, but very subdued. As the beer sits, the beer opens up and I get a stronger aroma of Belgian yeast along with some caramel and tropical fruits.

T: Starts out with balanced lactic and acetic sourness. This only becomes a portion of the beer as it opens up, though. I get spicy Belgian yeast - quite floral with cloves. The sourness is subdued, but a welcome addition to the complexity. The beer behind the sourness is nice, but not terribly complex. There is a toffee sweetness with the aforementioned spices.

M: Medium mouthfeel with high carbonation, but appropriate for the style.

O: Not bad - a nice sourness with a simple, but tasty beer behind it. Quite balanced, but lacking a bit in complexity.

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Photo of andrewinski1
3.64/5  rDev -12.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Thanks to sonicalligator for sending me this one! The color is amber/orange. There is a bit of haze. There is a nice foamy half inch head.

The aroma has some hint of tart cherry. There is a tiny hint of mustiness.

The taste is dry, which caught me a little off guard considering the larger body on this for a wild ale. That is perhaps due to the high carbonation. There is a nice slightly lemony aftertaste.

This is a very good wild. It's dry, crisp, and refreshing. It doesn't stand above the rest, but it's delicious.

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Photo of Dactrius
3.67/5  rDev -11.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Beautiful head and retention. Smell and flavor are intense brett and just insanely dry. I can't imagine wanting this to age at all because that's just going to dry it out even more (if that's possible). I'm not sure if there is just a small amount of Fred in it or if the brett ate the Fred up but it doesn't remind me of Fred at all.

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Photo of womencantsail
3.68/5  rDev -11.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a hazy orange/amber color with a sticky white head. Some acetic sourness, cherry, and a nice lactic note. There is a fair amount of oak, some grass, and a bit of lemon peel. A touch of fruity sweetness. The flavor is quite tart, maybe a bit on the acetic side. Red wine vinegar, leather, some oak, and a hint of cherry. A little bit of lemon and lemon peel. Light malt and fruit sweetness in the background. Just a hint of straw and grass in there too.

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Photo of StonedTrippin
3.73/5  rDev -10.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

total oddball and not at all familiar. pours hazy copper to light red in color with an inch or so of persistent off white foam. the nose is almost like a sour, smell some funky yeast, brett maybe, and a lot of red malt, very appetizing. the flavor starts off nice enough, not really sour at all, but yeasty, spicy, and enjoyable. then something weird happens though, the beer just sort of runs out of flavor midway through. like, right where the flavors should be climaxing, they disappear. it just sort of creams out, there is no finish at all, its just gone before its swallowed. never had that happen before, and it prolongs a little bit once it comes up to room temperature, but where is the back end of this beer?! fine feel, a little thicker and sweeter from the red malt addition, and the carbonation is great. very alive. it does have a bit of a funny belly though, and sort of sits weird in me, churning the stomach around a little. sort of vinegary in there, not breaking down real well. in any event, this was a letdown for me. overpriced and esteemed beyond the reality. passable though, just not sensational.

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Photo of Sarlacc83
3.73/5  rDev -10.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

750ml bottle.

A: Hazy copper with a bubbling champagne head that quickly recedes. Good bubbles.

N: Grass and hayfields, lemon and green apple. Some cherry and tannins, though I'm not sure this is oak aged. Plenty of white grape. Some sugary sweetness.

T: Vinous grape juice. A good tartness, but I'm rather suprised how little Fred I get as this warms. Lemon, apple, some acetone and cherry to show the flanders side. Some caramel and toffee. M: Spot on here. Well carbonated and light, especially for a 7.5% beer.

O: Tough beer to rate. It's at odds with itself every other pour, in turns complex and delicious, at other times revealing apathy.

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Photo of Ryan011235
3.77/5  rDev -9.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Poured into a Delirium snifter on 9/16/12; split with PDXHops.

The color is a hazy sunset of an amber brown; with a medium depth, the appearance is pleasant. The head is fluffy - over an inch tall. The foam drops to a thin layer and a patch of bubbles. Sporadic blotches of lace turn to a solid wall of tightly grouped bubbles.

Fermented apple aromas jump out of the glass though it doesn't smell boozy. Vinous overtones. After a few minutes plush, fluffy grains emerge. It's all woven together with hints of grassiness. Over time the focus shifts toward the grain aromas and mild sweet tones.

The aroma belies the tartness of the beer (at least on the first several sips). It seems like something of a lactic twinge. Ripe, light fruits. As with the nose, the malt backdrop is robust yet unobtrusive - toasted grains and lightly buttered bread. It almost seems like pilsner malt. Hints of damp funkiness on the finish.

Medium body with a moderate, fluffy carbonation. The sourness gives the semi-slick body a puckering feel.

I like this just fine. It's probably a good idea to start cold and observe how it changes as the temperature rises. For my personal preferences, I like it better as it warms up. An interesting and balanced beer.

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Photo of GreesyFizeek
3.79/5  rDev -8.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

On tap at the Tap and Mallet in Rochester, NY.

This one pours a light mostly clear amber-ish, with a small head, and no lacing.

Smells like green apple, toffee, red wine, and intense funk.

I've never had Fred, so I don't know exactly what that contributes here, but the lambic addition definitely dominates here, with sour cherry, red wine, and minerally funk dominating. It feels a bit musty, with just a little bit of toffee. The finish is a bit flat, finishes a bit watery. The sourness is about a 5/10, it's a juicy but slightly sharp sourness here.

This is medium bodied, with a juicy but slightly flat mouthfeel, and a lower level of carbonation.

Interesting stuff here, but I wish it finished a little bit better.

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Photo of ehammond1
3.8/5  rDev -8.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle (2012)

Thanks for opening this with me, BdubleEdubleRUN!

Hazy crimson with a small-moderate sized khaki colored head that stays around for nearly the duration of the drink down. This beer leaves irregular dots and webs of lace down the glass. Very pretty.

Sweet aroma leading with toffee, some citrus, oak, very mild funk, and a bit of sour character. I anticipated more acidic sour notes.

The flavor isn't as sour as expected either, with good amounts of fruit-like sweetness leading the way, along with grass, mild vinegar, and a mild, funky earth character. Only moderately sour.

Medium bodied with moderate carbonation.

Good, but I was hoping this would be better.

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Photo of sweemzander
3.8/5  rDev -8.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

750mL corked and caged bottle poured into a tulip. Thanks for sharing Matt!

(A)- Pours an orange colored amber. Some white colored froth and lace.

(S)- A relatively rich body of a dry, oaky, malty sweet fig and apple combination.

(T)- Similar to the smell. An assertive figgy oak and honey malt profile that flows into a dry tangy, almost sour acidic fruit that is quite nice actually

(M)- A good carbonation level and balance. Sweet, but dry/oaky and ever so subtle funky and sour all at the same time. I can definitely see the parts that was Fred, and the rest being the blended flanders. Turns out to be a touch too sweet overall for me though.

(O)- An interesting collaboration. It might get a touch sweet as it warms, but I do enjoy how it jumps from slightly sour, to funky, to sweet so there is a nice dynamic play that could develop further with some time; who knows.

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Photo of ThePorterSorter
3.8/5  rDev -8.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

thanks merc for sharing this bottle
the beer pours like an amber with a fluffy white head that fades quickly. The nose is slightly vinegary with some fruity sweetness that builds. The taste is like a flanders, but it's a lot sweeter. there is a touch of oak and yeast that help build up the beer's body. it has a creamy, medium bodied mouthfeel, with a bit of acidity towards the end. it's a strange concoction, but it pulls it off well. I'd try this again, but I wouldn't seek it out.

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Photo of stakem
3.87/5  rDev -7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

750ml corked and caged offering into a snifter. The brew appears a clear copper color with a slight off-white froth that is 2 fingers strong and quite silky looking. A full wall of lace sticks to the glass and a swirl revives a finger of yellowish froth back to the surface.

The aroma includes noted of pear and apple and other faintly indistinguishable fruity aspects. A bit like cider at times and an acedic smelling touch with a biscuit grain backing that comes out a bit.

The taste is tart and lemony blending to a bit of apple cider. The bready grain backing is present like the nose suggests along with a bit of an unwelcomed addition of minerals and fruity alcohol tang.

This is a medium bodied brew with a modest amount of carbonation. Overall not horrible but a little lackluster and not really what I was expecting. It is neither fred nor a flanders in the traditional sense but seemingly caught somewhere half-assed between the 2. I am glad I have another bottle of this to revisit sometime but admittedly I am in no hurry to have this again...yet.

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Photo of Stinkypuss
3.9/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Pours a medium amber color with a white head and scattered lacing. The smell is amazing, fruity flanders red all over the aroma. The taste has flanders and old ale elements which work decently well. It is full bodied and smooth going down. Finish has some oak and plenty of alcohol. Overall this is an interesting collaboration.

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Photo of brentk56
3.91/5  rDev -6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.75

Appearance: Pours a clear amber color with an impressive head; nice squiggly patterns of lace are left behind

Smell: Tart lacto with berry yogurt from De Proef that is buttressed by the strong toffee base from the Fred

Taste: Fred faces forward, on the front, end with the toffee and Belgian yeast strain; by mid-palate, however, the lacto, berry and green apple flavors start to balance and then overcome the caramel; in the finish, there is a strong sense of vanilla and oak

Mouthfeel: Medium to full body with moderate to high carbonation

Overall: I like both of the base beers I am tasting but I am struggling with the blend; still, a very interesting effort, but the vanilla and the sour flavors don't mesh for me

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Photo of suncrust
3.92/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

750mL bottle poured to a tulip.

A: Pours a hazy, honey-orange with a foamy white cap. Bubbles rapidly push upward... A very active carbonation reminiscent of champagne. A light, white lacing stuck all the way down.

S: Sour barrel and subtle cherry hit my nose first. Mellow but complex citrus, especially apricot & tangerine. Tart plums blend nicely with a soft sugared candy, and sweet breads. Underneath lie herbal notes & spice, melding with barnyard funk & yeast.

T: Very layered, and ever changing. Starts with a little spice, soft, tart tangerine & citrus notes that mellow quickly to reveal an earthy element, subtle bitterness & dry barrel. Mid-palette sour green apple lingers, finishing with faint breads, sweet toffee syrup, yeast, cherry skins and more spices. Barrel oak, funk… if you look for something in this, you'll probably find it. There's a lot happening.

MF: Lots of prickly carbonation, medium body, with some warming booze. I taste Fred the most in the mouthfeel.

O: A really interesting beer. There's so much happening I felt each sip was exploratory. Some were intriguing & balanced, others deceptive & chaotic. Tart, dry, sweet, soft, citrusy, earthy, and continually evolving. Tough to rate. Tasty though.

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Photo of DudMan
3.94/5  rDev -5.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

3/24/16 on draft. Pours amber orange and has a slight funk smell. The taste starts sour but doesn't linger. It finishes dry. Nice medium mouthfeel. I would drink this again.

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Photo of LiquidAmber
3.95/5  rDev -5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured into a Unibroue tulip. Pours a clear orange amber. One finger off-white head with good retention and nice lacing. Aroma of light fruit, citrus, Belgian spicing and mild malt. Flavor is dominated by tart cherry, apple and citrus. Light earthy and light fruit flavors develop, finishing tart with a distinct acetic acid aftertaste, a hint of funk. This is nicely complex, but I'm having a really hard time detecting the Fred under the Flanders fruit and tartness. There is a hint of sweetness and citrus that is reminiscent of Fred. My tastes would have leaned towards more Fred than Flanders, but I still enjoyed this well made collaboration. The flavor complexity and depth carry it through. Light to medium body with pleasant carbonation.

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Photo of vkv822
3.95/5  rDev -5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

on-tap @ Belmont Station.
taster glass : from notes.

Dark golden orange with a foamy off white head.

Tart fruit, cherry?, lacto, slightly funky.

Medium body, light prickly carbonation.

A well done blended beer, a lot going on within the tart/sour notes.

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Photo of wedge
3.96/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

@ Busy Bee

Cloudy orange-amber with little head to speak of. Interesting aroma...tart funkiness coating toffee-like malts, fruit, cherries, and earthy must. I coax up some acetic notes with a deep sniff. Flavor is tart, again with a solid malt presence for balance. Caramel, cherries, spicy wood, berries, vanilla, slightly phenolic on the back end. Body leans towards the fuller side of medium, and finishes dry and tart. This started out seeming like it was going to be more of a slow-sipper, but became dangerously drinkable and refreshing.

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Photo of spinrsx
3.96/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

750ml Bottle shared by the Ottawa tasting group

Appearance - Slightly hazy reddish amber colour with a small size fizzy white coloured head. There is a low amount of carbonation showing and there is some fair lacing. The head lasted for around 2-3 minutes before it was gone.

Smell - Bread/grains, vinegar, malts

Taste & Mouth - There is an average amount of carbonation and I can taste malts, breads/grains and vinegar. There is also some tart citrus flavour and a touch of caramel. It ends with a tart aftertaste.

Overall - Pretty enjoyable stuff. I could actually drink a fair amount of this, which is surprising given the tartness.

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Photo of MasterSki
3.96/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

On-tap at Local Option. Served in a snifter.

A - Very pale for a Flanders Red, but I see this is listed as a Belgian Pale so I guess that makes more sense. White foam settles to a wispy partial cap, thicker collar, and plenty of lacework. Lightly hazed dark orange-yellow body.

S - The smell is immediately recognizable as De Proef, with the assertive house yeast and an almost savory vinegar sauce acidity to it. There's a mix of sweeter malts, spicy esters, and light tart lemon. I'm surprised by the intensity of acetic flavors though, although apparently this has Flanders-brewed 'lambic' and not authentic Flanders Red in it.

T - The taste is intriguing, with a near-equal De Proef and Hair of the Dog presence. The spicy and fruity Fred flavors are present mid-palate, but are preceded by sourness and wet oak flavors. There's a hint of cocoa and candi sugar late, as well as some cake-like flavors and a touch of phenolic Belgian yeast. Odd that that the sourness doesn't show up in the finish - there's just stomach-churning acidity after swallowing.

M - Definitely a bigger beer, with more substance and heft that you'd expect from a 7.5% beer. Medium-full body, with lower but present carbonation. Some tannic dryness even though the oak flavors don't manifest strongly. As mentioned, there's some acidity but not a ton of alcohol warmth.

D - Odd beer, although it won me over during the course of the glass. Seems more like a straight-up blend of two disparate beers than a Flanders Red. Definitely a slower sipper and not something I'd want often, but complex and fairly interesting. Mildly reminiscent of some BFM beers I've had but not as sour.

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Photo of barleywinefiend
4.03/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Poured a nice orangish golden color with great carbonation providing a nice fluffy white cap and some nice lacing

S: Nose is def a sweet Fed base with a nice sour, tartness coupled with green aplles, white grapes and some pears

T: Immediate Fred base is noticable with some tartness, Earthiness and old wood, puckering sourness followed by red cherries, pears, white grape, green apple and a rather dry, stinging finish

M: Medium bodied, well carbonated, Fred stickinees, tart and white orchard fruits linger on the palate

O: Enjoyable, no major complaints and pretty much what I was expecting

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