Flanders Fred (w/ Alan Sprints) | De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)

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Brewed by:
De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)
Belgium | website

Style: Belgian Strong Pale Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 7.50%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
The sixth edition of the De Proef Brewmaster’s Collaboration Series is our first blended beer. Legendary brewer, Alan Sprints of Hair of the Dog joins Dirk Naudts at De Proef to create this unique bottle conditioned beer. Flanders Fred is a blend of Flanders-sourced lambic with a collaboratively-brewed version of the famous Hair of the Dog Fred.

The result is a deep golden ale topped with a creamy off white head. The nose is complex with notes of lemon, pine, tropical fruits and spice. The palate is rich and layered with toffee, apricot and almond, balanced by some green apple, a hoppy bitterness and barnyard funk.

Please enjoy Flanders Fred with food and friends. This beer should pair very well with many cheeses, roasted vegetables and grilled meats. We believe this bottle will continue to evolve beautifully over the next few years, adding a subtle blending of the flavors.

Cheers from Portland and Flanders!
Alan & Dirk

Added by mwilbur on 07-08-2012

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Photo of metter98
4.12/5  rDev -1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

On-tap at Good Beer, New York, NY

A: The beer is relatively clear orange amber in color and has the faintest hint of visible carbonation. It poured with a thin beige head that died and left some lacing on the surface and down the sides of the glass plus a thin collar.
S: There are light to moderate aromas of sour cherries and oak in the nose.
T: The taste is similar to the smell and has tart flavors of sour cherries as well as some hints of sweetness.
M: It feels light- to medium-bodied on the palate and has a low to moderate amount of carbonation. The finish has lots of lingering dryness and tartness.
O: The oak barrel aging makes this beer very interesting because the oaky and dry flavors contrast with the sourness and cherry flavors, making this very drinkable. Considering its strength, only hints of alcohol are present.

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Photo of BARFLYB
4.12/5  rDev -1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On tap at POPE in Philly.

Flanders Fred is a golden color with some light orange infused. I thought I would get some redness with the flanders in the name, like a bruin or something, much lighter than expected. A nice amount of off white foam up top that clangs to the glass. Some sour scents with big Belgian yeast scent rising with the temp. Some apple, apricot and a funky scent from the lambic base. Subtle spice and a malt base budging out a sweet scent in the end. This is interesting beer.I get more of fred than the lambic, but the mix leads a certain tangy taste in the finish. Some rye, clove, tropic fruit, apricot, cinnamon before that. How did they make a 7.5% BSPA out of a 10% strong ale? Feel is medium with a bite of carb and a mix of tangy and sweet. Maybe some time in the bottle will make things integrate better, although it's pretty great now. Hopefully I can find a bottle of this stuff.

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Photo of thebeers
4.12/5  rDev -1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Cloudy orange-amber color with a finger of bright white head that leaves decent lacing. A mild Flanders aroma, slightly sour and acetic. Tastes like a quality Flanders with a mix of red wine, white wine and light bourbon behind it -- caramel, fruitiness (apple and apricot stand out most), some acidity and a nice funk. Delicious. Medium bodied with a somewhat creamy mouthfeel. Superb beer.

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Photo of Rifugium
4.1/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

First had: on tap at Capone's, Norristown, PA

Darker amber pour with a small, bubbly, white head that receded to a ringlet; little dabs of lacing. Aroma of Belgian yeast, fruity esters, fairly acidic notes, distant malt sweetness. More of this in the taste, a bit of puckering tartness up front, malic/acetic/citric acid notes, bringing in doses of apple/vinegar/lemon, with a malty and sugary sweetness taking the edge off and giving a sense of balance; secondary flavors of yeast and wood. Medium body, moderately low carbonation, with a finish that's more mellow than crisp/tart. Pretty nice overall.

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Photo of oline73
4.05/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

I had this on-tap at Capone's during their Black Friday event. Served in a tasting snifter.

Appearance: The beer pours a cloudy reddish amber color with a layer of off white head that fades to a ring around the pour.

Smell: I'm getting a sweet malt note with some tartness in the background. Hints of vinegar and red berries along with a mild green apple smell.

Taste: This one is quite tart, but lighter than I expected. The green apple taste is more prevalent than the note in the smell. I'm also getting some vinegar and a mild brown sugar note from the malt. The finish is quite tart. Overall I'd say this beer is quite complex.

Mouthfeel: The body is medium with tingly carbonation and a dry finish.

Overall: Much lighter and easier to drink than I expected. I enjoyed the green apple note. I'd definitely think about having more.

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Photo of Goblinmunkey7
4.05/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Thanks to angrybabboon for sharing the bottle.

Appearance: Dark rusted gold. Head is slightly off-white, bubbly and has decent retention. Lively carbonation keeps the head alive. Some particles of lacing.

Smell: Mango, banana and kumquat. Yeast drops massive clove and ripe banana but it's tempered by a big fruitiness. Orange mango. So much fruit. Underlying spiciness and a mild earthiness. It smells like a smoothie. Peaches. Even yogurt. Strawberry banana yogurt. Nice tart citric edge buried in the back.

Taste: Screaming lactic sourness. Not so much sour as lactic culture. Very much a yogurt smoothie. Big backing fruitiness pushes ripe banana and strawberry with some mango an peach. Yeast punches through with some spice. Clove, but not a ton. Touches of leather and spoiled orange juice. As it warms, the backing citric bite blends with the lactic thing.

Mouthfeel: Mediumd body with a strong, but not aggressive carbonation. Clean, with some dry from the sour.

Overall: Incredibly interesting. Good.

Warm it's complex and interesting. Cold, it's a fruit smoothie. Nice blend of flavors with a great depth. Well played sirs.

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Photo of 4DAloveofSTOUT
4.04/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

poured int tulip glass.

reviewed from notes taken 1/17/13.

Appearance: straw yellow bodied beer with 1 finger of white head that drops down to a thin cap.

Smell: Little bit of everything in the nose. A fruity tart note seems to dominate. A touch of hop and a light malt profile. Maybe a hint of vinegar.

Taste: Moderately tart green apples, lemons, and peaches. I detect a hint of light funk. Grassy hops. The tartness is the most lingering quality of the beer. Very nice!

Mouthfeel: Low end of a medium bodied beer almost light bodied beer. Moderate carbonation levels. Crisp and brilliant carbonation in the beer with nice sour mash qualities imbodied in the beer. Drinks really effortlessly, not a hint of the 7.5% abv.

Overall: it reminds me of a little more aggressive version of berlinner weiss that is also fruity. Really unique beer here with nice complexity and mouthfeel.

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Photo of barleywinefiend
4.03/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Poured a nice orangish golden color with great carbonation providing a nice fluffy white cap and some nice lacing

S: Nose is def a sweet Fed base with a nice sour, tartness coupled with green aplles, white grapes and some pears

T: Immediate Fred base is noticable with some tartness, Earthiness and old wood, puckering sourness followed by red cherries, pears, white grape, green apple and a rather dry, stinging finish

M: Medium bodied, well carbonated, Fred stickinees, tart and white orchard fruits linger on the palate

O: Enjoyable, no major complaints and pretty much what I was expecting

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Photo of falloutsnow
4.03/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

From: Binny's, Glen Ellyn, IL
Date: Brewed March, 2012, best by 11/04/2014 on cork
Glass: New Belgium globe glass

Flanders Fred is a delicious collaboration between two skilled brewers, producing a sour Flanders-inspired ale that has strong fruit, malt, and oak influences. Perhaps fresh, the hops mentioned on the label would stand out, and while interesting, I'm not sure how this would influence my appreciation of the beer. As it is, I would purchase another bottle for enjoyment sometime in the not-too-distant future, though the price of a 750ml bottle is somewhat high (~$12). Probably best for fall enjoyment due to the tart fruit, oak, and leaf tannin flavors.

Pours a 1.5cm head of slightly off-white foam with average retention (slightly over a minute), falling to a 0.2cm cap of white foam atop the body. The lacing that remains is excellent, a large number of small dots of foam coat the inside of the glass, resembling a dot-matrix print or pointilist painting. Each sip also renews this effect for repeated entertainment. Body is a deep, hazy (50-60% opaque) copper orange-brown color, with light bringing out dried apricot orange hues. Carbonation is visible rising along the sides of the glass, somewhat plentiful and aggressive.

Aroma is sweetish and toffee-like, but with a notable influence of Brettanomyces-influenced tartness, dry leaf tannins, oak, and sour cherry and raspberry. The beer is a definite blend of a Flanders-style beer and another, lighter ale, though the hop character mentioned on the label (lemon, pine, and tropical fruits, really?) has definitely faded by this point, slightly over one year since it's bottling. Still, a very pleasant aroma that reminds me more of a good Flemish sour than any American hybrid ale.

The overall flavor of the beer is of a pleasantly sour Flemish ale that expresses cherry, raspberry, green apple, oak, dried leaf-like tannins, and toffee in pleasant proportion. Opens with sweet toffee-like flavors that are tempered by slightly acidic tartness, sour cherry and raspberry flavors, and dried leaf tannins. Mid-palate is of a sourish Brettanomyces strain that contributes mild acid and woodsy characters, with intensified sour cherry, raspberry, and green apple flavors, some oak, slight savory (the herb). Back of palate finds intensified sweetness and tartness with raspberry-cherry esters, somewhat like the similarly named US candy, but also complex oak, herbal, and bitter characters. Aftertaste is of sweetish toffee tempered by Flemish ale characters of Brettanomyces (tart cherries/raspberries/green apples), and leaflike tannins.

Beer is medium to medium-heavy bodied with carbonation of medium intensity, resulting in a feel that is slightly fizzy at first, then calming to a gentle, rolling and filling foam. Closes semi-dry, with fairly substantial stickiness lingering upon the palate.

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Photo of wedge
3.96/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

@ Busy Bee

Cloudy orange-amber with little head to speak of. Interesting aroma...tart funkiness coating toffee-like malts, fruit, cherries, and earthy must. I coax up some acetic notes with a deep sniff. Flavor is tart, again with a solid malt presence for balance. Caramel, cherries, spicy wood, berries, vanilla, slightly phenolic on the back end. Body leans towards the fuller side of medium, and finishes dry and tart. This started out seeming like it was going to be more of a slow-sipper, but became dangerously drinkable and refreshing.

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Photo of spinrsx
3.96/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

750ml Bottle shared by the Ottawa tasting group

Appearance - Slightly hazy reddish amber colour with a small size fizzy white coloured head. There is a low amount of carbonation showing and there is some fair lacing. The head lasted for around 2-3 minutes before it was gone.

Smell - Bread/grains, vinegar, malts

Taste & Mouth - There is an average amount of carbonation and I can taste malts, breads/grains and vinegar. There is also some tart citrus flavour and a touch of caramel. It ends with a tart aftertaste.

Overall - Pretty enjoyable stuff. I could actually drink a fair amount of this, which is surprising given the tartness.

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Photo of MasterSki
3.96/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

On-tap at Local Option. Served in a snifter.

A - Very pale for a Flanders Red, but I see this is listed as a Belgian Pale so I guess that makes more sense. White foam settles to a wispy partial cap, thicker collar, and plenty of lacework. Lightly hazed dark orange-yellow body.

S - The smell is immediately recognizable as De Proef, with the assertive house yeast and an almost savory vinegar sauce acidity to it. There's a mix of sweeter malts, spicy esters, and light tart lemon. I'm surprised by the intensity of acetic flavors though, although apparently this has Flanders-brewed 'lambic' and not authentic Flanders Red in it.

T - The taste is intriguing, with a near-equal De Proef and Hair of the Dog presence. The spicy and fruity Fred flavors are present mid-palate, but are preceded by sourness and wet oak flavors. There's a hint of cocoa and candi sugar late, as well as some cake-like flavors and a touch of phenolic Belgian yeast. Odd that that the sourness doesn't show up in the finish - there's just stomach-churning acidity after swallowing.

M - Definitely a bigger beer, with more substance and heft that you'd expect from a 7.5% beer. Medium-full body, with lower but present carbonation. Some tannic dryness even though the oak flavors don't manifest strongly. As mentioned, there's some acidity but not a ton of alcohol warmth.

D - Odd beer, although it won me over during the course of the glass. Seems more like a straight-up blend of two disparate beers than a Flanders Red. Definitely a slower sipper and not something I'd want often, but complex and fairly interesting. Mildly reminiscent of some BFM beers I've had but not as sour.

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Photo of LiquidAmber
3.95/5  rDev -5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured into a Unibroue tulip. Pours a clear orange amber. One finger off-white head with good retention and nice lacing. Aroma of light fruit, citrus, Belgian spicing and mild malt. Flavor is dominated by tart cherry, apple and citrus. Light earthy and light fruit flavors develop, finishing tart with a distinct acetic acid aftertaste, a hint of funk. This is nicely complex, but I'm having a really hard time detecting the Fred under the Flanders fruit and tartness. There is a hint of sweetness and citrus that is reminiscent of Fred. My tastes would have leaned towards more Fred than Flanders, but I still enjoyed this well made collaboration. The flavor complexity and depth carry it through. Light to medium body with pleasant carbonation.

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Photo of vkv822
3.95/5  rDev -5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

on-tap @ Belmont Station.
taster glass : from notes.

Dark golden orange with a foamy off white head.

Tart fruit, cherry?, lacto, slightly funky.

Medium body, light prickly carbonation.

A well done blended beer, a lot going on within the tart/sour notes.

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Photo of DudMan
3.94/5  rDev -5.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

3/24/16 on draft. Pours amber orange and has a slight funk smell. The taste starts sour but doesn't linger. It finishes dry. Nice medium mouthfeel. I would drink this again.

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Photo of suncrust
3.92/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

750mL bottle poured to a tulip.

A: Pours a hazy, honey-orange with a foamy white cap. Bubbles rapidly push upward... A very active carbonation reminiscent of champagne. A light, white lacing stuck all the way down.

S: Sour barrel and subtle cherry hit my nose first. Mellow but complex citrus, especially apricot & tangerine. Tart plums blend nicely with a soft sugared candy, and sweet breads. Underneath lie herbal notes & spice, melding with barnyard funk & yeast.

T: Very layered, and ever changing. Starts with a little spice, soft, tart tangerine & citrus notes that mellow quickly to reveal an earthy element, subtle bitterness & dry barrel. Mid-palette sour green apple lingers, finishing with faint breads, sweet toffee syrup, yeast, cherry skins and more spices. Barrel oak, funk… if you look for something in this, you'll probably find it. There's a lot happening.

MF: Lots of prickly carbonation, medium body, with some warming booze. I taste Fred the most in the mouthfeel.

O: A really interesting beer. There's so much happening I felt each sip was exploratory. Some were intriguing & balanced, others deceptive & chaotic. Tart, dry, sweet, soft, citrusy, earthy, and continually evolving. Tough to rate. Tasty though.

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Photo of brentk56
3.91/5  rDev -6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.75

Appearance: Pours a clear amber color with an impressive head; nice squiggly patterns of lace are left behind

Smell: Tart lacto with berry yogurt from De Proef that is buttressed by the strong toffee base from the Fred

Taste: Fred faces forward, on the front, end with the toffee and Belgian yeast strain; by mid-palate, however, the lacto, berry and green apple flavors start to balance and then overcome the caramel; in the finish, there is a strong sense of vanilla and oak

Mouthfeel: Medium to full body with moderate to high carbonation

Overall: I like both of the base beers I am tasting but I am struggling with the blend; still, a very interesting effort, but the vanilla and the sour flavors don't mesh for me

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Photo of Stinkypuss
3.9/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Pours a medium amber color with a white head and scattered lacing. The smell is amazing, fruity flanders red all over the aroma. The taste has flanders and old ale elements which work decently well. It is full bodied and smooth going down. Finish has some oak and plenty of alcohol. Overall this is an interesting collaboration.

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Photo of stakem
3.87/5  rDev -7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

750ml corked and caged offering into a snifter. The brew appears a clear copper color with a slight off-white froth that is 2 fingers strong and quite silky looking. A full wall of lace sticks to the glass and a swirl revives a finger of yellowish froth back to the surface.

The aroma includes noted of pear and apple and other faintly indistinguishable fruity aspects. A bit like cider at times and an acedic smelling touch with a biscuit grain backing that comes out a bit.

The taste is tart and lemony blending to a bit of apple cider. The bready grain backing is present like the nose suggests along with a bit of an unwelcomed addition of minerals and fruity alcohol tang.

This is a medium bodied brew with a modest amount of carbonation. Overall not horrible but a little lackluster and not really what I was expecting. It is neither fred nor a flanders in the traditional sense but seemingly caught somewhere half-assed between the 2. I am glad I have another bottle of this to revisit sometime but admittedly I am in no hurry to have this again...yet.

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Photo of ehammond1
3.8/5  rDev -8.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle (2012)

Thanks for opening this with me, BdubleEdubleRUN!

Hazy crimson with a small-moderate sized khaki colored head that stays around for nearly the duration of the drink down. This beer leaves irregular dots and webs of lace down the glass. Very pretty.

Sweet aroma leading with toffee, some citrus, oak, very mild funk, and a bit of sour character. I anticipated more acidic sour notes.

The flavor isn't as sour as expected either, with good amounts of fruit-like sweetness leading the way, along with grass, mild vinegar, and a mild, funky earth character. Only moderately sour.

Medium bodied with moderate carbonation.

Good, but I was hoping this would be better.

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Photo of sweemzander
3.8/5  rDev -8.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

750mL corked and caged bottle poured into a tulip. Thanks for sharing Matt!

(A)- Pours an orange colored amber. Some white colored froth and lace.

(S)- A relatively rich body of a dry, oaky, malty sweet fig and apple combination.

(T)- Similar to the smell. An assertive figgy oak and honey malt profile that flows into a dry tangy, almost sour acidic fruit that is quite nice actually

(M)- A good carbonation level and balance. Sweet, but dry/oaky and ever so subtle funky and sour all at the same time. I can definitely see the parts that was Fred, and the rest being the blended flanders. Turns out to be a touch too sweet overall for me though.

(O)- An interesting collaboration. It might get a touch sweet as it warms, but I do enjoy how it jumps from slightly sour, to funky, to sweet so there is a nice dynamic play that could develop further with some time; who knows.

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Photo of ThePorterSorter
3.8/5  rDev -8.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

thanks merc for sharing this bottle
the beer pours like an amber with a fluffy white head that fades quickly. The nose is slightly vinegary with some fruity sweetness that builds. The taste is like a flanders, but it's a lot sweeter. there is a touch of oak and yeast that help build up the beer's body. it has a creamy, medium bodied mouthfeel, with a bit of acidity towards the end. it's a strange concoction, but it pulls it off well. I'd try this again, but I wouldn't seek it out.

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Photo of GreesyFizeek
3.79/5  rDev -8.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

On tap at the Tap and Mallet in Rochester, NY.

This one pours a light mostly clear amber-ish, with a small head, and no lacing.

Smells like green apple, toffee, red wine, and intense funk.

I've never had Fred, so I don't know exactly what that contributes here, but the lambic addition definitely dominates here, with sour cherry, red wine, and minerally funk dominating. It feels a bit musty, with just a little bit of toffee. The finish is a bit flat, finishes a bit watery. The sourness is about a 5/10, it's a juicy but slightly sharp sourness here.

This is medium bodied, with a juicy but slightly flat mouthfeel, and a lower level of carbonation.

Interesting stuff here, but I wish it finished a little bit better.

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Photo of Ryan011235
3.77/5  rDev -9.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Poured into a Delirium snifter on 9/16/12; split with PDXHops.

The color is a hazy sunset of an amber brown; with a medium depth, the appearance is pleasant. The head is fluffy - over an inch tall. The foam drops to a thin layer and a patch of bubbles. Sporadic blotches of lace turn to a solid wall of tightly grouped bubbles.

Fermented apple aromas jump out of the glass though it doesn't smell boozy. Vinous overtones. After a few minutes plush, fluffy grains emerge. It's all woven together with hints of grassiness. Over time the focus shifts toward the grain aromas and mild sweet tones.

The aroma belies the tartness of the beer (at least on the first several sips). It seems like something of a lactic twinge. Ripe, light fruits. As with the nose, the malt backdrop is robust yet unobtrusive - toasted grains and lightly buttered bread. It almost seems like pilsner malt. Hints of damp funkiness on the finish.

Medium body with a moderate, fluffy carbonation. The sourness gives the semi-slick body a puckering feel.

I like this just fine. It's probably a good idea to start cold and observe how it changes as the temperature rises. For my personal preferences, I like it better as it warms up. An interesting and balanced beer.

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Photo of StonedTrippin
3.73/5  rDev -10.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

total oddball and not at all familiar. pours hazy copper to light red in color with an inch or so of persistent off white foam. the nose is almost like a sour, smell some funky yeast, brett maybe, and a lot of red malt, very appetizing. the flavor starts off nice enough, not really sour at all, but yeasty, spicy, and enjoyable. then something weird happens though, the beer just sort of runs out of flavor midway through. like, right where the flavors should be climaxing, they disappear. it just sort of creams out, there is no finish at all, its just gone before its swallowed. never had that happen before, and it prolongs a little bit once it comes up to room temperature, but where is the back end of this beer?! fine feel, a little thicker and sweeter from the red malt addition, and the carbonation is great. very alive. it does have a bit of a funny belly though, and sort of sits weird in me, churning the stomach around a little. sort of vinegary in there, not breaking down real well. in any event, this was a letdown for me. overpriced and esteemed beyond the reality. passable though, just not sensational.

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Flanders Fred (w/ Alan Sprints) from De Proefbrouwerij (bvba Andelot)
92 out of 100 based on 83 ratings.
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