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Old Man (Winter Ale) | Southern Tier Brewing Company

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Old Man (Winter Ale)Old Man (Winter Ale)
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3.68/5
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1,592 Ratings
Old Man (Winter Ale)Old Man (Winter Ale)
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Southern Tier Brewing Company
New York, United States
southerntierbrewing.com

Style: Old Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 7.50%

Availability: Winter

Notes / Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

Added by Jason on 12-17-2003

BEER STATS
Ranking:
#31,635
Reviews:
566
Ratings:
1,592
pDev:
12.23%
Bros Score:
3.73
 
 
Wants:
50
Gots:
246
Trade:
0
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Ratings: 1,592 |  Reviews: 566
Photo of CortexBomb
2.46/5  rDev -33.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

I'm reviewing this based on the style listing here, which frankly annoys me. This is more of an APA or an IPA...it has no old ale characteristics that I can discern.

Pour is amber, nice looking brew. Mild head. Nose is citrus twang and malts. Fairly classic pale.

The flavour on this is two major things: ruby red grapefruit and casual caramel malts. The grapefruit is not particularly aggressive and fades off the palette pretty quickly though.

The bottom line: This would be an across the board average beer if it was listed as an APA or IPA, as an old ale though? Overhopped, undermalted, and extremely shallow. Pick this up if you're looking for something mildly hoppy for the winter, but avoid if you actually want an old ale.

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Photo of mctizzz
2.5/5  rDev -32.1%

Photo of ConradKenney
2.5/5  rDev -32.1%

Photo of lisahope27
2.5/5  rDev -32.1%

Photo of chefduff2
2.5/5  rDev -32.1%

Photo of Beerma
2.5/5  rDev -32.1%

Very bitter and heavy!
Bad after taste!

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Photo of apintofknowledge
2.5/5  rDev -32.1%

Photo of HumphreyLee
2.5/5  rDev -32.1%

Photo of Landar
2.5/5  rDev -32.1%
look: 5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.25 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Aroma 6/12
Strong citrus hops bitterness and nutmeg hits immediately. This is followed by a cinnamon and a hint of a caramel malt profile. A strong hops bitterness dominates. As it warms the sharp hop bitterness is subdued somehwat and the caramel malt profile comes more into play. Fermented raisins begin to dominate with a sweet caramel malt profile and there
are hints of citrus peel, a hint of nutmeg and cloves. The citrus hops is still overpowering and makes the rest of the aromas difficult to differentiate.

Appearance 3/3
Deep reddish brown, almost blood ruby. Clear. Just a few bubbles rising. Thick, creamy off-white head with excellent retention.
Even after it sits a good while the head retention is still foamy and covers the entire surface and then some.
It sticks thickly to the sides and stays there.

Taste 9/20
The strong bitterness hits immediately, this is followed by the nutmeg. Strong bitter aftertaste.
As it warms an orange citrus bitterness still dominates but the sweetness of the malt comes through. It is just a tad watery, demonstrating a clean soft mineral profile. Some caramel tries to make its way through but the bitterness interferes with the balance.
None of the interesting spices in the aroma are here at all, as the bitterness overpowers.

Mouthfeel 3/5
Crisp and dry finish. Astringent to the point of leaving my tongue and lips slightly numb. Very low carbonation.

Overall Impression 4/10
This is more like an IPA with a touch of spices than a winter ale. Perhaps reconsider classifying this as an IPA for a stronger score.
To make it more appropriate to the style, I recommend downplaying the hops more. It would be great if the flavors that are in the aroma would be allowed to take a stronger tone in the balance to make this feel more in season. This might also solve the astringency concerns and give it the comforting feel one looks to in a Christmas/Winter Ale.
Whatever was done to make this fantastic frothy head that just lasts forever, keep doing it.

25/50

Note: BeerAdvocate has this incorrectly classified as an Old Ale. If it were, this rating would be even lower, as it bears absolutely no resemblance to an Old Ale.

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Photo of laintringulis
2.5/5  rDev -32.1%

Photo of keanlacrosse
2.5/5  rDev -32.1%

Photo of jophish17
2.5/5  rDev -32.1%

Photo of sharpski
2.5/5  rDev -32.1%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Had better winter warmers from local breweries, no need to keep this middle of the road example from across the country.

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Photo of salamiwagon
2.5/5  rDev -32.1%
look: 2.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.75

Very bitter. No sweetness. No malt. I even let the beer warm a little hoping additional flavors would come through but all I taste are the hops. I did not find the lingering taste on the tongue pleasant at all.

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Photo of Mark5252
2.5/5  rDev -32.1%

Photo of edthehead
2.55/5  rDev -30.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.25 | overall: 2.5

Photo of BWH3
2.57/5  rDev -30.2%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

A: Amber with faintly beige head. Retention is good. The amber is more on the brown side and a bit peculiar. Crystal clear. A sticky head on a swirl.

S: Not much. A grainy somewhat malty aroma. Not much hops aroma to speak of.

T: Initially a bit of Marzen malt then the bitterness comes as a mineral/metallic flavor. The grain almost tart astringent flavor fades in at the end. I guess I expected some nutty and sweet or spicy notes that just never surfaced in the nose or on the palate.

M: Somewhat creamy from the head. Good retention. Fairly still.

D: A holiday offering that is just okay.

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Photo of TheManiacalOne
2.58/5  rDev -29.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

On-tap 2/4/07 at Pitcher’s Pub in Cumberland, RI, served in a US tumbler pint glass.

A: The beer is a light brown color, with a decent-sized off-white head that fades slowly and leaves a thick lace on the glass.

S: The aroma is of caramelized malt, spice and a good amount of hops.

T: Pale hops along with some dark fruits are the most prevalent flavors in the taste. I found it to be quite bitter, but it was not a pleasant hops bitterness. It was more like a bitterness that comes from a lack of flavor. Some vanilla flavor comes out a bit in the after-taste, which is also mainly bitter.

M: Very crisp but not very smooth at all, medium body, medium carbonation, very dry finish.

D: Not very tasty and doesn’t go down very easily, this one just seems to fall short on many levels. I just didn’t like it, which surprises me because I’ve really liked everything else that I’ve had from Southern Tier.

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Photo of cbless97
2.63/5  rDev -28.5%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

A- Transparent amber color. Finger width of fluffy head.

S- clean, crisp, grapefruit

T- light citrus flavor, sparingly hopped.

M- A bit rusty taste, significant staying power on the tongue.

O- I was duped a bit into thinking Old Man Winter would be a darker more stout like beer. Very light for what I had been expecting. A decent beer, though if I knew it were going to be so light I would want some heavier hop to it. I would drink it again if I see it on top, but I would not buy a six pack again.

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Photo of q33jeff
2.63/5  rDev -28.5%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

**
12/29/2013
Aroma Is hops, flowers . Red-brown color. Taste is bitter hops, ash, grains. Not a pleasant drinking beer. Nice kick, but otherwise unimpressive. On tap at Blend."
**

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Photo of mcnabb0001
2.71/5  rDev -26.4%
look: 2 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Poured from 12oz bottle no freshness date on the bottle

A- Pours a murky light brown looks like cedar water with a moderate white head that dissipates fairly quickly.

S - Smell of citris hops and sugar cookie, also a little pine

T - Orange Peel, pine, lemon citris. The hops leave a nice bitter aftertaste. Hop bitterness begins to fade a little as this beer warms. But not spiced like I would have thought. Malt character is not what I thought it would be either. Maybe I am not familar enough with this style so I'm missing something???

M - Good carbonation and moderate body.

D - Its ok I probably wouldn't drink more than one and glad I only bought two.

Overall worth trying but nothing to write home about in my opinion much rather have a Rogue SPR.

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Photo of beachbum1975
2.74/5  rDev -25.5%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

My buddy Davo had one of these sitting in his fridge and I hadn't had it yet. Reviewing this one on the fly.

Pours a dark root beer in color with reddish highlights. Nice bone colored head with decent retention, leaving a nice skimming and legs as it settles.

An interesting nose that reminds me of yams, light caramel and peat. There's definitely a green vegetable-type presence is the nose, as well - almost like green beans... I don't mean to paint a bad picture from the description as it's actually quiet interesting.

Nice and complex malt variety. Definitely a noticeable hops presence in here, as well.

The mouthfeel is too carbonated for me and I really feel that the flavor is diluted. It's a shame, as it had a lot of promise.

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Photo of Adkins1203
2.75/5  rDev -25.3%

Photo of CWhite
2.75/5  rDev -25.3%

Photo of crazyindian
2.75/5  rDev -25.3%

Old Man (Winter Ale) from Southern Tier Brewing Company
Beer rating: 3.68 out of 5 with 1,592 ratings
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