Verboten | Weyerbacher Brewing Co.

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Brewed by:
Weyerbacher Brewing Co.
Pennsylvania, United States

Style: Belgian Pale Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 5.90%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
Formerly Zotten, but taken off the market in Feb 2010 in a copyright infringement agreement between Weyerbacher and Bierbrouwerij De Halve Maan.

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Photo of Katahdin
1.46/5  rDev -61.5%
look: 2 | smell: 1 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 1

Wow this has to be one of the worst ideas in beer history. Trying to cross a pale ale with a Belgian and what you got is something that is a distant cousin to both. Instead of leveraging the style's strengths this beer doubles down on their worst attributes. An aroma that is pungent, a color taht is cloudy. A very hoppy tatse that fights like a strong ale. Not a fun beer and a true shame that it might discredit Weyerbacher's other great beers.

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Photo of connecticutpoet
2.03/5  rDev -46.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 1 | overall: 1

Had this one tonight as I wasn't in the mood for a Sea Monster Stout. Poured into a Shaker pint glass, I got a four finger head. Color was a nice deep yellow. Initially clear, when the head subsided and I poured the rest of the bottle into the glass, it became slightly hazy.

Aroma was of sweet malt, doughy, definitely prominent yeast, and a hint of spiciness.

Taste was off a bit. It started somewhat more bitter than the nose indicated. This was followed by sweet malt, then a little bit of spiciness. Finish was medicinal and somewhat solvent-like. But not ethyl alcohol.

Mouthfeel put me off. A little thin, but it left a coating on the inside of my mouth that was somewhat slimy. Not the worst feeling I've ever gotten from a beer, but I can only think of two beers that were worse.

Drinkability was really bad. This was damn near a drain pour. I was seriously tempted, I really was. But I hate to waste beer, even bad beer. Fortunately, I can down a pint in less than two seconds if I need to. With this one, I needed to.

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Photo of haazer
2.11/5  rDev -44.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 1.5

Poured bottle into the appropriate weyerbacher tulip glass.

A- Forms a large frothy head vanilla bean in color. Leaves spotty amount of lacing on the glass. Decent head retention also. Beer started out well filtered, but the settled yeast pours into the beer and adds cloudiness to an apricot, brownish-orange brew. Decent carbonation is evident.

S- Has a spicy yeast smell up front. Strongest aroma is definitely bubble gum.

T- For some reason I can distinctly taste copper pennies. Sort of a stale yeast flavor. The bubble gum is there but it's the bubble gum you've chewed in your mouth for a really long time.

M- Mouthfeel is light to medium bodied. Pretty smooth, but hard to get by the taste.

D- I am fairly dissapointed with this beer. It may be my own fault, last time I was at the brewery I tried some an didn't think it was that bad. Flavors harshness dies down after awhile but it's still bad. Since it's a summer release maybe it's gone bad already? Shouldn't have, but Weyerbacher has much better than this.


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Photo of cpetrone84
2.24/5  rDev -40.9%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 2

A-pours a dark golden orange color, quite clear and attractive with tons of off white dense and creamy head leaving a nice lace on the side of the glass.

S-very soapy yeast aromas, fruity esters, grassy herbal notes, bubblegum, citursy hops in the back.

T-this is actually quite aweful. lots of soap up front, notes of bubblegum and fruity esters, metallic phenols behind and quite strong, notes of citrusy orange hops with a fair amount of bitterness in the finish.

M-grainy on the palate, medium body, lots of carbonation with a prickly crisp finish.

D-this beer is just off, plain and simple, extremely phenolic and soapy which i am not a fan of at all.

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Photo of Lukewarring
2.45/5  rDev -35.4%
look: 2 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 2.25 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.25

Look - 2 Liquid has nice consistency, medium with a little less thickness. Small specs vissible floating around - looks gross
smell - 3.25 Nice spicey aroma, maybe good for a cooking. No/low Head.
taste - 2.25 - First sip is overwhelming with spice. Your tongue mellows out after that, but taste stays with you like a cigar.
feel - 2 Has nice consistency, but has bitters on the back of your tongue in the after taste which activates glands making mouth feel gross. Sipping beer to avoid aftertaste

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Photo of mhaugo
2.52/5  rDev -33.5%
look: 2.25 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.25 | overall: 2.5

12 ounce bottle decanted into an oversized snifter. 5.9% ABV.
Appearance: Weak, soda-like bubbles rising through a pool of murky amber. Zero head retention (2.25/5).
Aroma: Smells kind of dirty… funky, but not in the way you’d want it to be. A little citrus pith and toasted malt are cowering in the back corner, but that’s about it. I don’t know (2.75/5).
Taste: This doesn’t taste anything like I was hoping it would. I get some ruined malt followed by a bit of grassy hops on the back end. Maybe there was a decent Belgian Pale Ale in this bottle once, but if that was ever true it has since retired and died (2.5/5).
Mouthfeel: Thick and flat (2.25/5).
Overall: This poor bastard is yet another example of how poorly this style ages. I love that there are breweries out there making beers like this, but an “Enjoy By” date should be front and center. This embarrassment of a beer does not represent the style or the brewery with any class. It’s too bad (2.5/5).

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Photo of descobar
2.54/5  rDev -33%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

disclosure: bad experiment in ageing. but found it, decided to try it. - pours deep amber with a white thin head that quickly disappears. cloudy with visible yeast sediment. aroma is a combination of different elements of oxidation. green apples, estery/solventy and horse blanket. there's no hop presence left. so the remaining flavors are just malt sweetness and maybe some candy sugar. surprisingly the oxidation from the nose, does not carry heavily into the flavor. its almost all malts like a Scottish ale. body has thinned out, carbonation is also very light and there is an astringency that borders on harsh. despite all this, it finishes dry and only the above mentioned harshness lingers on. - way past its prime

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Photo of FickleBeast
2.8/5  rDev -26.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

12 oz bottle poured into a Duvel tulip.

Pours a cloudy dark orange/brown color with a finger of foam that fades very slowly. Aroma is very phenolic - the belgian yeast dominates the nose.

First sip is very spicy. Yeasty flavor is out of control. Finishes sharply bitter. I don't get much malt presence, as it is overwhelmed by the phenolic flavor and bitter bite. There is also a slightly metallic twang in the flavor.

I usually like the beers that Weyerbacher puts out, but unfortunately, this one is a total miss for me. I don't prefer the phenolic yeasty flavors in general, and this one dials it up a few notches.

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Photo of jrallen34
2.88/5  rDev -24%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

12oz bottle drank from a tulip...Pours a clear and gold, almost copper, very dark for the style. A light off white head rises with good retention and great lacing. Looks good, weird coloring though...TONS of yeast on the nose, nailed the Belgian yeast perfectly. Its strong, almost overpowering as its hard to pull anything else out. Light lemons...The taste is yeasty, but off, lots of alcohol comes through, medicinal, distracting. Not my favorite.

Below average Belgian pale ale.

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Photo of orbitalr0x
2.91/5  rDev -23.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

12oz bottle. Excited to give this a try. Pours into my glass a hazy yellow orange with a billowing bubbly white head on top. Lots of active carbonation. Aromas start out with sweet pale grain malts along with some banana and spice with a bold clove accent. Belgian yeast as well. Rather mellow.

First sip brings a crisp light grain malt upfront that carries with it some sweetness. Some banana and fruit accents follow along with a spiciness of clove and light pepper. Finishes with a touch of Belgian yeast and lingering sweetness. Overall it is just not cohesive and ends up being rather bland.

Mouthfeel is on the lighter side with an onslaught of fast moving carbonation. The excess carbonation gets in the way and knocks down my enjoyment of the brew. Overall, I'm really not digging this brew. It falls somewhat flat flavor wise and ends up being rather boring.
Thanks to afterexile for the opportunity to try it.

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Photo of harrymel
2.92/5  rDev -23%
look: 5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Unknown bottle date.
Poured to NB globe.

A: Pours a hazy amber ale with a persistent, peanut colored, three finger head. The residue sticks to the glass - tacky. Good looker.

S: Yeasty nose. Grain, simple earthy hops. Hints of tea. Maybe a hint of banana. Very simple and straitforward.

T: Very metallic. Bitter with charred grain flavors.

M: Medium body with very high carbonation. Leaves little reminiscence of its presence.

D: Forgettable. Worth a try. Nice as an extra.

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Photo of aquatonex
2.97/5  rDev -21.6%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Poured orange in color, but was not cloudy or hazy at all pretty clear. Nose is light coriander and clove notes, but not much else going on. Taste is syrupy and bitter, not hoppy or very spicy. Spices are trying to come out but they don't really make it. Syrupy bitterness lingers on in the mouth, not very refreshing. This may have been an old bottle.

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Photo of Ryanm1
3/5  rDev -20.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

This is slightly darken golden brew. The appearance was great. You can't clearly see through it so its not a typical Belgian wheat. It is slightly fruity with some bitterness to it. I poured this brew from a bottle to a glass and there was not much foam associated to it. Even though it was fruity there was not much sweetness and there was a dry after taste.

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Photo of mikem0487
3/5  rDev -20.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

12oz bottle poured into ale glass. Bottled on 02/05/13.

A-A pinky's fingers width of a white head that quickly receded back to the beer body. Leaves nice lacing that holds up while you drink it. The body is amber in color with an orange hue. Clarity is pretty hazy on this one. Looks like its unfiltered.

S-Defiantly get the full aroma of that Belgium yeast. Very effervescent. Get cloves and mild bubble gum up front in the nose. Burnt sugar breaks through. Really do not get any hop presence in the aroma.

T-Yeast is also the dominant factor for the taste as well. Overly yeasty with the taste. Cloves, very mild garlic taste and orange rind mixed in with it. Some staleness in there as well. Maybe some oxidation occurred? Leaves an unpleasant astringent aftertaste.

M-Medium high to high in body. Highly carbonated which is normal for Belgians.

O-This beer just doesn't do it for me. Leaves alot to be desired and is over powered by a Belgian yeast that I do not find pleasant. Over whelming in the taste and does not leave the mouth with a good finish.

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Photo of sisuspeed
3.01/5  rDev -20.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Poured into an Ommegang tulip. Decent sized, foamy, white head on top of a clear, golden-wheat, body. Leaves some light lacing. Quite clear for a belgian pale.

Bubblegum nose with fruity banana esters and just a hint of other spices. Not really a fan of the bubblegum aroma.

Light wheat/pilsen flavor with a touch of banana and clove. Slightly metallic on the finish. Fairly average.

Mouthfeel is well carbonated with a bit of booze on the finish. Dry metallic feel.

Overall, this is a pretty average Belgian pale. I'm not really digging the metallic notes and it seems a bit filtered for the style. Plus the ABV really shouldn't be as noticeable as it is. I wouldn't recommend this one.

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Photo of wiseguy142
3.05/5  rDev -19.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Pretty good looking. Amazing viscous head, lasts a while with some quickly dried up foamy lacing. Not a big fan of the color.. sort of a stereotypical beer color but there's nothing wrong iwth it.

The aroma is almost too much for my 1 unclogged nostril to handle. Sort of a pungent Belgian smell. I'm not a huge Belgian fan in general and it comes off to me as smelling like bleach. Otherwise very floral to sort of an extreme, like smelling a scented candle.

The taste again follows the bleachy smell. Maybe I'm sensitive to this because some of my early homebrews had problems with phenols, but this is a phenol phuck phest. Sweet and tart around the edges with a hint of alcohol.

You can tell the beer is bottle conditioned because it feels a bit foamy immediately when it enters your mouth. Drinkability not so much.

I'm having trouble finishing this. I don't think it's bad per say. I read in BA mag that some people were claiming it's too young and I think I tend to agree. Never been a big fan of Belgian Pale Ales in the first place- the Belgians I really like are the Strong Dark Ales but I wanted to try this out. I'm going to save the rest of the 4-pack for a few months and try again.

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Photo of mothman
3.08/5  rDev -18.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Old school Zotten Labeled

Poured into chalice.

Pours over a finger of khaki head. Color is a dark orange hued gold. Good head retention leaving a solid lace ring after every drink I take. This was definitely the best part of the beer.

Aroma: Earthy and herbal. Fairly hoppy for what I was expecting. Some spices. Lemons and pepper. A bit grassy.

Taste: More lemons and pepper. Straight up. Lemonade with a dash of pepper is the best way to describe this beer. Odd. Earthy with herbal notes. Grassy. Spiced.

Mouthfeel: Crisp and spiced. Medium bodied with good amount of carbonation. Ends kind of dry.

Overall, an odd beer. Nothing too special. The pepper and spice really throw this beer off from making it something I may actually like. Not really for me.

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Photo of Guden
3.12/5  rDev -17.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A- Fairly cloudy copper color with a thin layer of head that sticks around but leaves no lacing.

S- Coriander and bubblegum with a little bit of sulfur and fresh grain.

T- The grain comes through with earthy hops and a bit of the belgian character. There's a lot going on but it's not very good instead tasting pretty grainy and muddy. The finish is a spicy bitterness.

M- Pretty thin and dry with medium low carbonation. There's also a bit of a grainy texture to it that doesn't seem to fit. It could definitely use more carb for my tastes.

O- A very average beer. I've had it a couple times when it was around but probably won't go back again. Nothing terrible but nothing particularly good or interesting.

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Photo of bbarrows
3.13/5  rDev -17.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Poured from bottle to tulip glass.

A: Clear amber, 1 inch white frothy head. Head dissipates quickly. Some lacing.

S: Sharp bitter, alcoholic nose. Not much else to notice besides this. Unexpected since it's only 5.9% abv.

T: Bitter and spicy from noble hops and yeast. Enough maltiness to balance out the hops without being sweet.

M: Moderate. Not dry, not cloyingly sweet...what's the word for something right in the middle?

D: Unusual blend of hop bitterness and spicy yeast characteristics make this a difficult beer for me to drink. I can't appreciate the combination.

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Photo of Suds
3.16/5  rDev -16.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

This is a very clear, pale golden colored beer. The head is small, and appropriately whispy. Moderate lace. The aroma has some fruit scents, orange and pear, and a little spice. There is some floral scents...dried orange blossoms? Estery, phenolic...not much malt and hop aroma though. The taste is a bit hot, despite the moderate abv. It's peppery and dry. The carbonation could be a bit higher, but the overall body is firm and resilient. All in all, this beer is just average.

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Photo of tempest
3.19/5  rDev -15.8%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

On-tap for $5 a pint at Liberty St. Tavern in Allentown. Appeared a hazy amber with a short head. This is an interesting beer, but I get some awful off aromas that really kill it for me. Still there's a relatively big, hoppy flavor with citrus and mild pine, while the aroma hits me with dirt and cleaning solvent - not cool. This beer needs some work, but it's not a good beer yet.

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Photo of davey101
3.21/5  rDev -15.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12 oz. bottle poured into a tall pilsner glass.

A - Dark copper orange with a nice fluffy white head

S - Not a great aroma. Light citrus, yeast, bread, and some spice. There's a slight hint of offensive soapiness on the end.

T - Yeasty bread, light malts, orange peel, and spices in the finish. Some hop bitterness is present as well.

O - I picked this up off the shelf for a mixed six pack. Not an amazing brew, buts is pretty decent. It did hit the spot on this hot night as its fairly refreshing.

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Photo of steve8robin
3.21/5  rDev -15.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Got this bottle on a whim. First time I've seen this one. 12oz bottle...

A: A nice murky golden color with a small 1 inch white head that fades at a quick pace to a small lace atop the brew. Very light bubbles. Good.

S: A mild earthy bitterness with a mild clove and banana quickly followed. A very faint bubble gum scent on the back. Ok.

T: A clove / nutmeg mix upfront quickly followed by some banana with a dry bubble gum on the back. Ok.

M: Medium body with a good carbonation. A fruity dry finish. Decent.

O: All in all, this is an ok brew. Not much special about this one. I've never been a Belgian style fan. I think it's the fruity / bubble gum / clove flavor that really puts me off. Not my style, I guess. If you like these flavors, you will enjoy this one.

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Photo of axeman9182
3.21/5  rDev -15.3%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

12 oz bottle. Part of my haul from volunteering at BBF. It was poured into my Bruery tulip.

Verboten pours a hazy burnt orange, with some gentle lighter orange highlights. There's only about a finger of bone colored foam sitting atop the beer. The nose is highlighted by some pleasant esters. Aromas of granny smith apples and white wine grapes waft out of the glass, offset by a dash of clove. The flavor profile starts off with a similar nice fruity notes. Phenols assert themselves a bit more here on the back end than in the smell, and unfortunately they move past clove and have a bit of a medicinal unpleasantness to them. The body is maybe just a little full for the style, but that's a minor issue. A little bit more of a concern is the noticeably dull carbonation, it's not nearly lively enough for a good Belgian ale. Verboten isn't anywhere near being an unpleasant beer, it just misses the mark a bit for the style.

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Photo of rodcom
3.23/5  rDev -14.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 2

Had a growler of the Alpha beer the second night after they cracked open the firkin at the Drafting room in Exton PA. Overall very glad I tried the beer. It is a very unusual taste, color and feel for a beer. First the color/look - pale yellow color, but the yeast leaves it cloudy and there looked to be chunks as you poured it in the glass. Taste wise it was kind of a blend between a Belgian Pale and a wheat beer. Feel - it was a beer you felt like you were chewing it. Usually, I like the warm of a cask style beer, but in this case think it tasted better after I put the growler in the fridge for the second night.

My recommendation - definitely try a glass of this beer when you get a chance since it is so different though not positive you will like it enough to try a second, but you will be able to say you had a "firkin".

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