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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Weyerbacher Brewing Co.
Pennsylvania, United States
weyerbacher.com

Style: Belgian Pale Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 5.90%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
Formerly Zotten, but taken off the market in Feb 2010 in a copyright infringement agreement between Weyerbacher and Bierbrouwerij De Halve Maan.

Added by dborginis on 05-20-2010

BEER STATS
Ranking:
#20,362
Reviews:
319
Ratings:
740
pDev:
11.44%
Bros Score:
3.7
 
 
Wants:
16
Gots:
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Ratings: 740 |  Reviews: 319
Photo of Sammy
3.42/5  rDev -9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

On-tap at Mr. Goodbar's. Some yeast aroma. White soapy head on light orange body. Medium mouthfeel. Smooth, and spicey, corriander, a little cloves and pepper.A little bannana. A little hoppy and drying in the finish. An average beer overall, likely better with food.

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Photo of kylehay2004
3.95/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: 1.5 finger head with nice retention on a cloudy golden amber body

S: musty and slightly pungent yet cirtusy hops and yeast. A very mild fig and apricot note as well. some mild pale malts.

T: more like a saison in terms of the yeast and fruitness (banana) profile with clove and spice. the hops are less available in the flavor and mostly provide herbal and candied citrus notes however the hop content is of the right degree for the style.

M: lighter side of medium body and moderate to high carbonation. semi dry finish.

Overall: A nice representative of the style which seems to be sweeter than others I have had. Drinkability is good.

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Photo of acurtis
3/5  rDev -20.2%

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4.25/5  rDev +13%

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3/5  rDev -20.2%

Photo of Knapp85
3.82/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

This beer has changed names at least twice and I'm hoping it is going to stay with what they have it named now. This beer pours out as a hazy yellowish gold color with a strong head on top. The smell is like a mix between and belgian triple and a german wheat beer with some hops mixed in. The beer tastes pretty refreshing. The flavors are of clove, wheat bread, spicy hops, and some soft fruits. The mouthfeel is quite carbonated and keep this beer alive.

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Photo of t0rin0
4.25/5  rDev +13%

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3.75/5  rDev -0.3%

Photo of metter98
3.75/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Cask at d.b.a., Brooklyn, NY

A: The beer is hazy copper in color and poured with a thin ring of bubbles covering the surface.
S: There are aromas of fruity yeast in the nose along with some hints of pale malts.
T: The taste is similar to the smell, except that the flavors of pale malts are a bit stronger and there are only notes of fruity yeast and some hints of sweetness. There is a light amount of bitterness.
M: It feels light- to medium-bodied on the palate and has little if any carbonation.
O: The beer is relatively easy to drink and a good representation of the style.

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Photo of BEERchitect
3.65/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Delicious and fruity, this classy American brewed Belgian-style ale has a simplistic overtone has a sweeter and more estery fruit flavor mix compared to Belgian exports.

Starting with a very froathy light amber color, the beer carries a mild yeasty haze, a blanket of ivory-white foam that lasts well into the session while lacing all the while. A very creamy looking ale with perhaps more visual weight than preferred.

Honey and banana notes give first impressions in aroma. The malt character of light grain, honey, bready, wheat, and light biscuit give a rich and sweeter aroma while the esters of citrus and tropical fruits give a roundness to the sweeter nose. Lightly spicy with tea-like herbs, white pepper, and bitter orange peel, the beer seems to balance toward the sweetness.

The delicious sweetness of honey, powdered sugar, and soft sweet breads set the tone in taste while complementary fruity esters of oranges, banana, appricot, lemon drops, and white grapes help to reinforce the sweetness and offer roundness and support. Mild herbal hop notes seem like sweet tea, lemongrass, and marmelade before turning lightly bitter in finish. With a spicy yeasty flavor of white pepper, corriander, and mild detergents, the phenolic balance is unsettled and could use more development to balance the beer.

Quite creamy from start to finish, the sweeter and richer tone is unexpected, prefering a drier, zestier, and more spritzy carbonation and prickle instead. But the beer struggles toward dryness late as the alcohol and hop resins can only take it so far, leading to a semi-dry finish.

The aftertaste of honeysuckle, spices, and wheaty grains has a whisp of evaproative taste that extends into the next sip. All culminates in a sweeter and less complex Belgian ale than what's offered from authentic Belgian breweries, but this beer compares well with others brewed in the U.S. like Ommegang BPA or even Belgian brewed Leffe Blonde.

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Photo of brentk56
3.85/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Appearance: Pours a slightly hazy amber color with a reasonable head that does a fine job providing a lace curtain

Smell: Bready with a spicy herbal character; apple and pear fruit elements and some phenols

Taste: While there is a hint of breadiness, up front, it doesn't take long for the Belgian character to arrive, bringing apples, pears and spicy phenols; by mid-palate, a surprising level of Germanic hop character joins the profile, too; after the swallow, the herbal elements dominate, brining phenols into the aftertaste

Mouthfeel: Medium body with moderately high carbonation

Drinkability: A little too much phenol character for my palate, but this is a decent stab at the style for a domestic brewer, and one that verges on Belgian IPA territory

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3.75/5  rDev -0.3%

Photo of Phyl21ca
4/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle: Poured a bright golden color ale with a large foamy head with good retention and some lacing. Aroma of dry hops with some nice light fruity ester and some grain is also noticeable. Taste is also a very nice mix between some cereal and dry hops with a light fruity touch in the finish - I very much appreciated the hops presence and this was somewhat reminiscent of DDC Dernière Volonté thought a notch below overall.

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Photo of zeff80
3.97/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Poured out a clear, golden/orange color with a one-finger, khaki colored head of foam. It left thin rings of lace on the glass.

S - It smelled fruity and yeasty with a touch of caramel.

T - It tasted fruity with green apple. Nice sweet flavors with a yeasty, spicy bite.

M - It was crisp, sharp and smooth. A medium bodied ale with a dry, clean finish.

O - This is a really tasty Belgian Pale Ale. Another great brew from Weyerbacher.

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Photo of Boone757
3.75/5  rDev -0.3%

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3.5/5  rDev -6.9%

Photo of mothman
3.08/5  rDev -18.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Old school Zotten Labeled

Poured into chalice.

Pours over a finger of khaki head. Color is a dark orange hued gold. Good head retention leaving a solid lace ring after every drink I take. This was definitely the best part of the beer.

Aroma: Earthy and herbal. Fairly hoppy for what I was expecting. Some spices. Lemons and pepper. A bit grassy.

Taste: More lemons and pepper. Straight up. Lemonade with a dash of pepper is the best way to describe this beer. Odd. Earthy with herbal notes. Grassy. Spiced.

Mouthfeel: Crisp and spiced. Medium bodied with good amount of carbonation. Ends kind of dry.

Overall, an odd beer. Nothing too special. The pepper and spice really throw this beer off from making it something I may actually like. Not really for me.

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4/5  rDev +6.4%

Photo of NeroFiddled
4.12/5  rDev +9.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Carefully poured to leave the yeast behind, Zotten displays a crystal-clear orange body beneath a creamy head of white. The head retention is good, and it leaves some very nice jagged lines of lacing about the glass.

The aroma is quite perfume-like, combining a strong floral side with some phenols and sweet malt, a bit of spiciness, and possibly a bit of alcohol.

The flavor follows suit, and it's the yeast and hops that carry this beer. What malt lies beneath it is just a springboard for the more complex, yet etheral, flavors. It's delicate, but it has a real presence to it. Spiciness acts as both an anchor and driving force, helping to lift it into the air, but also keeping it from becoming sweetish. Beyond that, a firm bitterness helps keep it focused.

Unlike quite a few American attempts at Belgian-styles, it's not overdone. Some may mistake that as lacking flavor, but that's off the mark. There's just enough malt to it, and it's a bit "sweetish", but that's just one component that quickly passes before it moves on. Interesting. Intriguing, in fact. It keeps you looking for more! A unique ale!

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Photo of chinchill
3.84/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Undated 12 oz bottle poured into a Corsendonk chalice.

A: The deep amber liquid was fully covered by a short, dense and creamy tan head that had excellent retention and left my glass fully coated when tilted.

Above The aroma features banana/clove yeastiness, some alcohol esters, bready malt and some peppery spice, It's complex and rich, and seems to change every time I lift the glass. The flavor has more fruit and less pepper than the nose indicates. Moderate bitterness.

Excellent mouthfeel: Creamy smooth with very good carbonation (perhaps a tad aggressive) and a pleasantly full body.

O: True Belgian quality and character (allowing for some American hops) in an ale from Pennsylvania. [4.25]

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Photo of jlindros
3.9/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Use to drink this from time to time when it was still called Zoten, but just as good still.

A: Light creamy head that fades quickly, light golden amber pale color with pretty good clarity.

N: Nose has a light Belgian quality with some sweetness maybe candi sugar.

T: Taste is light and ambery but has some Belgian sweet candi sugar and a slight bitter aftertaste, it has a slight tangy quality.

M: A light to medium body that speads over the tongue with decent carbonation.

F: It finishes a little sweet and bitter and lingers, makes you smack your mouth a little, not bad, but could be better I think, the two main flavors, Belgian malts and hops, seem to clash, not enough Belgian and too much hops IMHO.

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Photo of TheManiacalOne
3.65/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 12oz bottle into a US tumbler pint glass.

A: The beer is a deep gold color, with a short white head that fades quickly and leaves a thin lace on the glass.

S: The aroma is of Belgian yeast, spices, caramelized malts and a touch of hops.

T: The taste starts out spicy and a little fruity with flavors of pepper, coriander & citrus. Then a strong Belgian yeast breadiness and a hearty malt character come in. The hops presence is mild but complementary. The after-taste is slightly sweet and slightly spicy.

M: Crisp and smooth, medium body, medium carbonation, finish is slightly sticky.

D: Tasty, goes down easily, not too filling, decent kick, good representation of style, I wasn't really sure what to expect with this beer but was pleasantly surprised to find that the spice content wasn't overdone and that this was a decent beer overall.

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Photo of Thorpe429
3.25/5  rDev -13.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Bottle thanks to ChrisPro as part of Blind BIF 4. Served in a Bruery tulip.

Pour yields a light copper-colored brew. Very, very short white head without much retention. Nothing else comes of the foam other than a very thin collar. The nose brings some light clove character along with a bit of bread-crust malt. The taste falls through with many of the same characteristics and then hit a bit of bitterness toward the end and in the finish. Fairly plain, other than the clove character. Bit of light floral hops. The feel is light and undercarbonated. Slight bitterness again in the finish along with a bit of alcohol. Drinkability is decent, though nothing too special here.

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Photo of nickfl
3.5/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A - Pours with one finger of white head, resting on top of a dark gold body with excellent clarity. The foam settles fairly quickly and leaves average lace.

S - Strong, fruity aroma of banana and juicy fruit gum. Some vanilla and pineapple come out once the bubble gum subsides. There is also a spicy, herbal hop note in the background.

T - Bread malt and bubble gum up front with a very intense note of clove. Some spicy yeast notes in the middle with more banana and the beginning of an herbal hop flavor. Finishes with more of the crusty malt and fruity hops as well as intense hop bitterness that interacts with the clove flavor in an odd way.

M - Medium-thick body, high carbonation, and a reasonably dry finish.

D - This beer displays a lot of promise in the aroma, but ultimately fails to deliver on it. There is a lot of banana and bubble gum as well as a huge, medicinal clove note. While there are some of the vanilla and soft fruit notes that would be more appropriate to the style, they are ground down under the assault of the other yeast flavors. The hops are also a bit blunt. There is a nice herbal note in the aroma and a similar character shows up in the flavor, the bitterness is excessive and exhibits a harshness that is amplified by the medicinal clove. Overall, the beer looks good and smells nice, but totally comes apart in the flavor. I'll finish this one, but I won't be drinking it again.

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Photo of mactrail
4.07/5  rDev +8.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours a nice head on a lovely golden ale. Nose is fragrant and reminds me of a Saison.

Initial flavor is a hint of liquorice, which also comes through in the nose. Mellow malts are a tasty prelude to the hops, which come on very strongly. As you sip it changes, which I think is the mark of a good Belgian, the shape shifter. And it has the Umami flavor, the "meaty" taste the Japanese like, which I've encountered in the Biere de Mars style. But the sharp tang, a hint of malt sweetness, and a dark bitter undertone make it quite satisfying.

This is a good combination of the hoppy crispness of a Pale Ale with the complex funk of the Belgians. Very drinkable as a beer to savor slowly.

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Beer rating: 3.76 out of 5 with 740 ratings
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