Verboten | Weyerbacher Brewing Co.

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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Weyerbacher Brewing Co.
Pennsylvania, United States
weyerbacher.com

Style: Belgian Pale Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 5.90%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
Formerly Zotten, but taken off the market in Feb 2010 in a copyright infringement agreement between Weyerbacher and Bierbrouwerij De Halve Maan.

Added by dborginis on 05-20-2010

BEER STATS
Ranking:
#19,250
Reviews:
319
Ratings:
740
Liked:
456
Avg:
3.76/5
pDev:
11.44%
Alströms:
3.7
 
 
Wants:
16
Gots:
62
Trade:
0
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Ratings: 740 |  Reviews: 319
Photo of BuckeyeNation
4.42/5  rDev +17.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Polished pumpkin with a lustrous luminescence when backlit with radiant morning sunshine. The incredibly creamy crown is more ecru than alabaster. It almost looks good enough to be called Belgianesque, something that rarely occurs with Belgian-style beer brewed in America. An attractive array of tattered lace graces the glass.

The aroma is pretty close to classic for the style. I used those words because this Belgian pale ale uses American hops (Centennial and Cascade). Their citrusiness takes a backseat to what smells like an incredibly estery yeast strain, though that's fine with me. Warming brings out even more boldness.

This is fantastic beer that reminds me of one of the all-time great ales in this corner of the country (or anywhere else for that matter). New Glarus Dancing Man Wheat is a kick-ass hefeweizen that uses American hops and does so in gobsmacking fashion. Zotten isn't quite that special, but it is a marvelous marriage of the Old World and the New World.

The mouthfeel is more than fine and has picture perfect carbonation that adds sparkliness to a flavor profile that is already as zippy and zesty as all get out. That said, no one who knows better would mistake it for having been brewed in Belgium.

Zotten is Belgian/Flemish for 'fools'. Anyone who loves Belgian-style beer that is insanely drinkable would be foolish not to seek this one out. I'm amazed at how many styles (from a multitude of countries) that Weyerbacher does well. Slam Dunkel and this beer are perfect examples.

*reviewed on 10-25-2009

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Photo of cokes
4.45/5  rDev +18.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Foggy honey-orange with a tan and sticky rise of dirty white foam.
The nose is hit first with a lemon peel zestiness, along with hints of chamomile and rosewater. It turns doughier with notions of raisin bread. Hops bring a kaleidoscope of flowers.
It begins bready, lighty toasty, lightly doughy. Some candied orange presents itself early on, then shuffles off to the background. Golden raisins, honey, and vanilla-caramel nougat step into its place. Yeast brings peppery, gingery spiciness, with hues of clove and allspice, as well as a discernible earthy, wet stone quality. Hops are big and brash, and bring pulpy, reedy, prairie grass and wildflowers, full of resonate bitterness and resinous chlorophyll, replete with the softer hues of lilac and rose petals.
Medium bodied, with a fluffy, steady CO2, giving it an airy, but muscular feel. It's eminently drinkably, despite and due to its complexities.
Best of both worlds. This is a gem.

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Photo of donniecuffs
3.72/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Poured amber/orange, with a thin white head and no lace. Smelled of sour yeast-funk, lemon zest, and bittersweet dark fruit, like green raisins and prunes. The flavor did produce some maltiness, raisin, and lemon flavors, but it also produced warm biscuit and evolved to crisp dry finish. Pleasantly surprised after the aroma. The mouthfeel was thinner than expected, but silky and lightly carbonated. Decently sessionable.

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Photo of asabreed
4.42/5  rDev +17.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

12 oz. bottle into a Brooklyn tulip.

Appearance: A hazy mildly burnt orange color with a sticky and slightly raucous head that likes to leave broken webs of lacing all over the middle part of the glass.

Smell: There's an initial killer tandem of candied pineapple and vanilla going on here that I really like. Followed by strong and earthy citrus tones. Clean nuanced hops too, which is hard for me to explain. They're mellow and add a weird creaminess to the nose in some way, almost candle-wax like? Though that doesn't make much sense. And there might be some berries somewhere too. There's a lot going on here, and the possibilities as it changes temperature seem to be pretty wide and varied.

Taste: What I like here, and what differs from the aroma, is the spiciness from what I perceive to be the hops. The yeast and hops seem to be providing all the flavor here, which is evident in the quality and presentation everywhere. Candied fruit, pineapple, vanilla, pepper, woodsy earthiness, mildly nuanced and flowery hops that settle in nicely for the long and cascading, complex finish, with the great earthiness, the spicy hop bite, and the candied fruit and vanilla coming together harmoniously and joyfully.

Mouthfeel: Good and creamy and well-carbonated, more between lighter and medium-bodied.

Drinkability: A highly nuanced beer from the sometimes (though I enjoy it thoroughly) over-the-top Weyerbacher. Take some time with this one, let it sit, sip on it. This had some TLC involved, and I would bet that with the Pepsi challenge many wouldn't be able to tell that this is really a domestic. Bravo, again, Weyerbacher, for the addition to the already many times I've said it.

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Photo of Beejay
3.65/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: Slightly cloudy, orange amber with some great white head.

S: Some citrus, yeast, and a good bit of hops.

T: Hoppy, with a slightly sweet fruit taste. Tastes much like a hopped up Belgian.

M: Medium bodied, but fairly highly carbonated.

D: Good, the hops seem to fade a little as I progress, very drinkable, but I am not going to rush to the store for it. Respectable, and a good change of pace.

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Photo of kshankar
4/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a cloudy orange with a white head.

Aroma is coriander, cloves, yeast. Some citrus and banana

Tastes like the aroma..the fruit flavor profile of the banana and citrus work well with the cloves and coriander

Well bodied. Tastes good, looks good, and is easy to drink. I could have a couple.

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Photo of Risser09
4.31/5  rDev +14.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

12 oz bottle poured into a pilsner glass - fridge - 2009

Appearance: Pours a transparent yellow/gold/orange color with plenty of carbonation activity. The head rises 3", is almost white in color, and shows great retention. Lots of lace clings to the glass.

Smell: Spicy, peppery Belgian yeast along with citrusy hops and pale malt. Clove and dampness are part of the estery Belgian yeast.

Taste: Delightfully hoppy and spicy, the Belgian yeast brings clove, pepper, and esters to the forefront. Sweet malt flavor is both pale and caramel in flavor. Hops drive the beer home with a balance of citrus.

Mouthfeel: A tremendously well-balanced brew with bitter, sweet and spicy all being key components. Medium bodied, well carbonated and a tad bit of noticeable alcohol.

Drinnkability: I would drink a lot of this brew. I think it is better now then when it was green & fresh. Bravo..err..Zotten!

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Photo of NeroFiddled
4.12/5  rDev +9.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Carefully poured to leave the yeast behind, Zotten displays a crystal-clear orange body beneath a creamy head of white. The head retention is good, and it leaves some very nice jagged lines of lacing about the glass.

The aroma is quite perfume-like, combining a strong floral side with some phenols and sweet malt, a bit of spiciness, and possibly a bit of alcohol.

The flavor follows suit, and it's the yeast and hops that carry this beer. What malt lies beneath it is just a springboard for the more complex, yet etheral, flavors. It's delicate, but it has a real presence to it. Spiciness acts as both an anchor and driving force, helping to lift it into the air, but also keeping it from becoming sweetish. Beyond that, a firm bitterness helps keep it focused.

Unlike quite a few American attempts at Belgian-styles, it's not overdone. Some may mistake that as lacking flavor, but that's off the mark. There's just enough malt to it, and it's a bit "sweetish", but that's just one component that quickly passes before it moves on. Interesting. Intriguing, in fact. It keeps you looking for more! A unique ale!

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Photo of brewcrew76
3.58/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A - Slightly hazy golden amber with a few fingers bubbly white foam. Sticky lacing.

S - Floral, citrus, orange, lemon, banana and a touch of spice.

T - Bubblegum, a bit sugary sweet, coriander, peppery spice and floral hops.

M - Medium body due to the sweetness, high carbonation, fluffy on the tongue with a peppery finish.

D - A little too sweet but very drinkable.

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Photo of dsa7783
3.65/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Another twelve-ounce single copped for a reasonable price from Joe Canal's in Lawrenceville...
Thick head with an amazing pour and appearance... Golden-hue with slight carbonation and heavy lacing around the edge of the serving glass...
Fruity, rich, yeast-laden aroma with hints of honey and nectar...
Flavor was extremely thick and rich with hints of cloves, bananas, pears, and green apples...
A fairly decent stab at the style...
Not bad...

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Photo of riversider76
3.75/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours a golden orange with a thin white head. Not much retention,but a decent lacing. Aroma is of Candy,spice and fruit. Body is medium with a little too much carbonation for me. Taste is fruity,with hints of licorice and peppery spices. Very enjoyable!

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Photo of wyattshotmaker
4.11/5  rDev +9.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

poured into an orval chalice,nice deep orange with a nice head that left some nice lacing.smell is slightly medicinal and spicy,slight citrus note as well.

taste is balanced with a strong medicinal phenolic character,rounded out with some light fruity esters (slight banana,light fruit).i really like a strong medicinal flavors in belgian beers.

lively carbonation and medium body make this an easy to drink beer,especially with the moderately low alcohol.

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Photo of FtownThrowDown
3.57/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Pours a hazy dark gold in color. Very little head forms on the pour, and there's no head when I reach my chair.
Smell is very slight. Some light peppery spicyness. There's also just a hint of candied sugar.
Taste is much more of the peppery spicyness flavor. Decent amount of carbonation. A lot of bubble gum flavor as well. Medium mouthfeel. This is getting old in the flavor pretty quick. Good beer though.

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Photo of bonkers
3.9/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

I poured from a 12 ounce bottle into a snifter. It poured a clear orange with a frothy whtie head. Belgian spices rule the aroma, also a bit sweet. The tongue follows the nose, sweet spices followed by a dry lingering finish. The beer is medium bodied, average carbonation. For me the beer is a bit of a sipper, overall a solid beer.

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Photo of DIM
3.6/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

a: This was a hazy light copery color with golden edges. It poured with a large but short lived fizzy white head. It was easily revibed though.

s: Slightly musty sweet grains, bready yeast notes, plus some licorice like spiciness.

t: Drier than the smell would suggest. Starts off some yeasty breadiness with some light sugar in the backround. The finish is an odd combination herbal hops and something else spicy. That something else lingers long into the aftertaste, too much so in fact.

m: Thin and undercarbonated; a little watery. I can see the carbonation, why cant I taste it?

d: Not bad, but not something I'd hurry back to. Kind of an odd brew.

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Photo of BeerSox
4/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz bottle into 8oz snifter

More of an amber hue, with a one and a half finger head that slowly settles to a thin cap.

The aroma is very floral, with plenty of light citrus and a little orange peel.

Some sharp grapefruit is in there, met by some spicy phenols. Full bodied. The finish develops into more of a sour apple flavor.

I'd say this is more like an American style Belgian IPA, which is an adaptation of the American IPA. Pretty good. Recommended.

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Photo of ClockworkOrange
4/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A 12 ounce bottle purchased at Abe's in Bethlehem for around $1.75. Uncapped and poured into my Duralex tumbler. The ale appears a hazed golden yellow color with about an inch of dense bone white foam. Taste and aroma consist of candi sugar, spicy peppery yeast, red candied apples, grapes, lemon, orange, quite fruity, notes of bubblegum. Crisp, dry, medium bodied and well carbonated for the style. The best thing to come from their house abbey yeast strain to date.

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Photo of jdaelhousen
4.44/5  rDev +18.1%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pour produces a solid contribution of body under head. Perfect pour, consisting of about 1 inch of frothy white head over a copper colored body. Aroma consists of a strong fruit nose sustaining orange peel, coriander, & mild cherry notes. The maltiness of the Belgian style pale ale is definitely noticeable, among some toasted toffee complexities. Flavor contains an initial high carbonated bite of citris orange mixed among coriander and cherry. The fruit aspect of the beer is complex and evident. Finish provides lasting carbonation with the orange and coriander notes, but also accompanies a spicy herbal complex featuring some very mild clove notes. Aftertaste leaves a rustic coriander bite on the palate, as orange citris flavor and notes of hay and horse blanket rise up on the palate. Overall, this beer is extremely impressive, and at 6%, is very drinkable, refreshing, and flavourful. Nothing but outstanding!

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Photo of Georgiabeer
4/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A very solid new beer from Weyerbacher here. Pours golden with a classic White, tightly beaded head. Nice nose of clove and coriander and some crisp grain. Taste is somewhat similar, but much heavier on the coriander and lighter on the clove. Very, very herbal. Pretty smooth in the mouth with a peppery, herbal finish. Nice effort.

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Photo of beerthulhu
3.61/5  rDev -4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: Poured a pumpkin pie orange with gold hightlights and a swirling thick yeast haze. An ivory tusk colored head blossomed upwards 2 finger high before slowly settling to a rocky structure and eventually a thin whispy patchy covering. Visible effervesce was strong.

S: light overall, some orange candy sweetness and lightly toasted grain sweetness was evident. Light traces of citrus and semi-dry orange peels are mentionable. Overall for a Belgian pale the yeastiness and hops were both under-represented here making for an average experience. Was expecting a bit more from this brewery.

T: The flavor started out with an initial sweetness of oranges and pale grains along with citric undertones. A light yeasty sourness soon kicks in along with a dried lemon grass hopping. The bitterness was moderate-heavy, a well representation per style, with dried lemon peels closing things out. Per style a pretty good flavor here, sharply and bitterly hopped, crisp in nature making for good marks here.

M: sharp from the carbonation which livened things up a bit, while the overall feel was light, very smooth with a good display of bitter citrus on the finish and fade.

D: Decent drinkability overall, a well hopped dry bitterness delivers flavor wise though other aspects of this beer are lacking a bit. Good for a few but that would be my limit.

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Photo of Billolick
3.78/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

On tap pours semi cloudy yellowy amber, it lifts a tight khaki head, but then trails behind onlyminor lacing. Midle of the road Belgain pale in my book. Fruity in the mid section and then quite dry in the finish. Pleasant enough stuff, sessionable, would be nice with a warm weather lunch, salads, bread and cheese, but nothing to seek out or go nuts over.

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Photo of smcolw
3.58/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Large chalky white head. Leaves lots of spotty lace. Foamy. Slightly hazy in an otherwise amber broth.

Sweet, almost like maple syrup, smell. Lots of sugar and candy with a faint amount of Belgian yeast in the background.

More dry than the smell indicates. Quite chewy. Very short aftertaste. Low level of hop bitterness. Still, it works in terms of balance. The swallow shows up a higher alcohol level than the ABV would indicate. In a word, I'd describe this beer as enigmatic.

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Photo of firkinhophead
3.92/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

pours a hazy, almost cloudy, autumn gold. Apparently unfiltered. Rich, off-white head settles to a tight, solid cap of foam.

Aroma is straight up Belgian yeast, with the overripe fruit esters of banana and melon skin, and a hint of spice.

Taste has a nice balance of sweet honey malts and tangy, bubblegum-y yeast. Floral, lemony hops come in strong, with a surprising cilantro-like soapy bitterness. Any sweetness begins to yield to dry, crackery malts and tart apple. All that's missing is a nice wedge of brie. Bitterness in the finish lingers a bit long for my taste and is my only real complaint. Nice rustic quality to it that is suggestive of a farmhouse ale or biere de garde.

Terrific, weighty mouthfeel for a regular BPA without become heavy or cloying. A brisk carbonation helps in that regard, as does the dry finish.

A bit to bitter for the style perhaps, but pair it with some rich cheese, a baguette and some fig preserves and you have a great picnic.

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Photo of CHADMC3
3.8/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a hazy golden/orange to copper with a big off white head packed with dense carbonation bubbles leaving a thin lacing in its wake.

Nice aromas of yeast, pepper spice, banana, and coriander waft from the glass. As the beer warms, some sugar notes become apparent as well.

Pleasant flavors as well, more up front sugar than the aroma, sweet fruit, banana, again coriander, but more floral hop bite in the finish.

Medium to light in body, medium to high carbonation, somewhat dry finish, and a nice peppery bite to end.

Good brew, perhaps not traditional of the style in all aspects, but quite tasty. The flavor characteristics are borderline aggressive, but I would not complain.

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Photo of Imstillthegman
3.98/5  rDev +5.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This one pours a cloudy rusty orange with about a fingers worth of off-white head. The head quickly faded to a ring, but left nice lacing.

The aroma is a basic version of what I had hoped for. Sweet fruit and candi sugar with a bit of peppery yeast and a herbal/floral hop note. Not bad, just doesn't wow me.

The flavor is quite enjoyable. I get the yeast right up front quickly followed by the sugars and fruit (pear and apple). The yeast comes back into play again with a nice pepper bite before I get the earthy hops.

Active carbonation keeps the flavor going after the swallow. Not too bitter, more dry and white peppery. Very enjoyable brew that I will pick up again.

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Verboten from Weyerbacher Brewing Co.
Beer rating: 61.6% out of 100 with 740 ratings
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