Cinderbock | Heavyweight Brewing Co.

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Heavyweight Brewing Co.
New Jersey, United States

Style: German Doppelbock

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 7.00%

Availability: Winter

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Added by Todd on 12-02-2001

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Photo of pubscout
4.77/5  rDev +25.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

When "Smokin' Goat" (Cinderbock's label features such a creature) came out some ten months ago, it made for some pretty satisfied customers.

But I had it three days ago at a tasting in the brewery, and believe it or not, it has improved.

That delightful,smoky nose is still the same, and the head still has its staying power, but this bottle (and, hopefully all the rest) was a more mature, smoother version of the original.

Its smoky flavor is definitely not intrusive, yet wonderfully ever present--like a classy perfume on a classy lady.

I liked the hazy look in the glass, and though it was wonderful by itself, I can only imagine it with paired with some hearty game dish--venison or rabbit, for example. Turkey would definitely go well with it, too, so I'm planning on setting a place for The Goat at my Thanksgiving table.

But, shucks, I'd drink it with sausage and peppers and probably a good cheeseburger, too.

It's still big in the ABV--as you would expect from heavyweight--so treat the Smokin' Goat with respect.

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Photo of mophie
4.69/5  rDev +23.7%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

I had the pleasure of drinking this with Tom Baker, master brewer and co-owner of Heavyweight Brewing Co., at Iron Hill Brewery's Brewers' Reserve Night in West Chester, PA. He was originally going for a double bock, but ended up with this incredible brew. Cloudy copper appearance, white foamy head. Smells like mesquite from the imported German smoked malts. Incredibly smooth, clean lager taste, with a heavy smoked malt accent. Lingering smokiness in the finish. This is a damn fine (and smoky) beer!

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Photo of NeroFiddled
4.64/5  rDev +22.4%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

Bottled in March and patiently aged for 9 months (although I'm not sure that any real change has occured). Carefully poured, it's only slightly hazy (and has a cleaner, and obviously less yeasty, taste than when the yeast swirl is eventually poured). The tawny body is topped by a full, pillowy ivory head that holds well but leaves only minor spotty lace. The aroma combines a clear Beechwood smokiness with a rich, sweet maltiness that reminds me very much of the beers of Bamburg. I find it quite welcoming, and even comforting. Both the body and carbonation are medium, and the very fine bubbles caress the tongue before becoming creamy in the mouth. The flavor is more complex than the nose suggests, with a sweet graininess upfront followed by some pleasant woody notes from the smoked malt. It then becoming more toasty as the bitterness rises, and finishes with a long lasting bitter/sweet and smoky finish that's entrancing and enticing. At this point the previously hidden alcohol steps out to help dry things up. Beautifully balanced! The smokiness is not so bold as to turn you away at the first sip, but strong enough to maintain your interest (as your palate becomes accustomed to it) throughout the entire glass. The rich maltiness supports the smoke, but is also supported itself by an underlying bitterness. Exceptionally well done and well worth seeking out!

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Photo of waughbrew
4.58/5  rDev +20.8%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

big lagery head, nice reddish-peach from a healthy amount of munich malt. Has a great wood-smoked aroma - not harsh, very earthy and blends with all the other characteristics. The smoke in the flavor helps to balance the munich candyness. Feel is wonderful - healthy carbonation dances on your tongue and body has perfect thickness. This beer is a masterpiece in my book.

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Photo of AsburyParkJMH
4.52/5  rDev +19.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

a gem of a brew from heavyweight, and it's in a style that i love more and more each time i sample a new brew within it. the cinderbock pours a nice, slightly cloudy bright orange with a moderate 1/4 inch thick head and minimal to no lacing. the smell is simply out of this world. smoke and wood but with touches of sweetness and malt pushing through. very well done. magnificent really. the taste is damn near just as good as the smell, with that hearty smoke flavour prevailing over a nice malty base. a bit of alcohol adds a nice touch at the finish. a complex brew that is oh so easy to drink. bravo.

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4.5/5  rDev +18.7%

Photo of Bighuge
4.45/5  rDev +17.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

The beer has a nice hazy deep copper color. A thin head that retains a bit. There is a nicely subdued malt aroma laced with subtle smoke nuances. Really nice taste. A little bit syrupy, but it fits nicely with this brew. Nicely integrated smoke taste. Great full maltiness on the palate. Little to no hop taste. Body is medium to full. No sign of alcohol in this 7% a/v beer. Very easy drinking. A very solid brew.

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Photo of ManekiNeko
4.35/5  rDev +14.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

12 oz bottle served chilled in a pint glass.

Appearance: Cloudy reddish orance with visible carbonation. An explosive and excessive yellowish head of tiny bubbles gushed forth on an easy pour. A small, but thick, layer of foam remained all throughout consumption and left some decent sheets of lacing on the glass.

Smell: Compared to Schenkerla's urbock, not quite as smoky, but this is definitely the smokiest smelling domestically produced rauchbier I've ever come across. Not so overwhelmingly meaty either, but a nice balance between caramel malts, smoked meats, and ash is achieved.

Taste: An initial taste of sweet sweet caramel malts followed by some soft, but prominent, smoky aftertastes. A tad yeasty, to boot. Again, not as over the top as Schenkerla, but I'm not complaining.

Mouthfeel: Medium bodied with very crisp flavors, quite excellent.

Drinkability: Great food beer. The best domestic rauchbier I've had the pleasure of tasting. I wish some brewery in my area would be willing to make one, but the market for this sort of beer is small. Big thanks to my girlfriend for picking this up for me in NYC.

Other: Is it me, or is that goat smoking a fatty? It sure looks like a doobie.

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Photo of blitheringidiot
4.35/5  rDev +14.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Foggy dark orange amber with spotty carbonation bubbles and a thin beige wafer head that whittles down to a collar.

Delicate yet present smoky scents tickle the nose like a smoked ham. Almost like a rauchbier but not quite. Interesting!

First swigs: Whimsical smoked hickory plays along with the grain like flavors of the lager.

Medium bodied with crisp carbonation that became a tad bit thick and sticky towards the end.

Last swigs: Liquid smoked ham on rye beer. Goat smoking a cigarette on the label is clever. The label also briefly explains the style with smoked German malts. Tom Baker must really have a grand time making these wild beers. They are unlike most any other. This was a pleasant surprise picked up at their open house.

Beer is good. Happy beering.

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Photo of kunzbrew
4.33/5  rDev +14.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

I had my first taste of this at the beer summit. So I had to go out and get a 4 pack.

This brew pours a hazy copper color with a a nice thick creamy head that last the duration. Not really any lace being left behind.

The sweet smell of smoked malts come rising out of the top of the glass, along with some hop aroma.

The smoked malts come right out and hit the palatte hard, it is like eating a fresh ham. The hop aroma is light to moderate in flavor with is a good compliment to the strong smoked flavor. If you like the smoked beers and smoked cheese you will really like this brew.

The medium body with with strong smoke flaor make this a very drinkable beer. Heavyweight is quickly becoming one of my favorite breweries.


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Photo of Jason
4.32/5  rDev +14%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Presentation: 12 oz short brown bottle with no freshness date though the smoked malt and higher level of alcohol will give this brew and extended shelf life.

Appearance: Hazy from the yeast showing a tawny colour, rocky head stays as long as the beer is there.

Smell: Fresh malty aroma with a lined hard wood smokehouse and yeasty smell. In the raw and very aromatic.

Taste: Medium to full bodied, light crispness within the creamy mouth feel. Very malty with an even bigger smokiness and a thin layer of yeastiness on the palate. Deep complex toasted malt flavours and smoke linger forever. Hops are mild with a light twang within the smokiness and bitterness middle to end that struggles to match up to the malt. Smokiness tastes like a hard wood rich smoke and is close to being dominant. Warmth from the alcohol hints in the end as the beer finishes off a tad sweet and smoky.

Notes: Wow! I knew it was smoked but this is a deep smokiness that is strong but does not go overboard. Maltiness makes sure of that and an alcohol that is late in the game brings things around. Once I knew it was this smoky I went right to the creamy goat cheese and crackers for a contrast pairing.

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Photo of yen157
4.3/5  rDev +13.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Hazy, amber with a touch of red brew. The coarse head was a pale orange, but it did not last long. It quickly returned to the depths from which it rose leaving only some lace on the glass.

The beer's aroma was pretty simple, nearly all malt and smoke. The flavors, however, were a bit more complex. The first sip started out with a big, but not overpowering, smokey taste. The smoke was very firm yet smooth and not at all sour. As the flavors developed in my mouth, the smoke yielded to the growing taste of toasted grains. Throughout there was a constant medium maltiness.

It wasn't until my second sip that I realized that there was a fair amount of hop bitterenss that went unnoticed because I was so closely monitoring the battle between smoke and malt. (Since neither the malt nor smoke were dominant it was more like thumb wrestling than armed conflict.)

Slightly more stinging carbonation that Heavyweight's other beers which took away from the mouthfeel of this otherwise smooth and almost creamy beer. Very nicely done!

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Photo of Bierman9
4.3/5  rDev +13.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

It's real nice to have Heavyweight available around here these days.
Cinderbock has a medium copper color, a bit lighter than I expected, with a short, fine off-white head. Lacing was at a minimum, and a bit of residue in the bottle produced a slight cloudiness.
The aroma was very pleasant! A cross between a rauchbier and a bock is a great idea. The smokiness, though not as strong, reminded me right off of a Schlenkerla. And the malty sweetness present made for a good nose!
The body tended to be about medium, and the carbonation produced a bubbly/foamy feel on the tongue.
Malt flavors were present in good amounts, with a nice level of sweetness, as well as some caramel. The smoky aspect is just right; not too subtle that you have to search for it, yet not dominant either. The rauch flavors linger long on the palate in a savory manner. The finish is just a bit dry, too.
This is a very drinkable bier! I love the rauch/bock combo, and will definitely get more! Zum Wohl!!

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Photo of nlmartin
4.29/5  rDev +13.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This beer was purchased at the Foodery in Philly. The beer is served in a pub glass.

Appearance: The beer has a amber ginger ale kind of coloration. The head was shortly lived white coloration. No lacing to speak of.

Smell: Some one smoked the hell out of this beer. The beer smells heavily of mesquite grilled smokyness. The beer has a very pleasant maltyness combined with smoke.

Taste: The taste is a spicy sweet and sour smokey treat. The beer has a hell of a lot of smokyness in the flavor. Frankly the smoke in this beer is more than I remember in Rauchbiers and other smoked beers I have had. The smokyness is really welcome. The beer has a very good malty sweetness. The grains combine well and create a toasty sort of flavor. The beer has some woodyness about it.

Mouthfeel/ Drinkability: This beer is medium bodied. None of the flavors or smells are out of sorts. This is a dam tasty beer treat. I wish I had a case of this. The beer is not one to guzzle or to session. It is simply a nice beer treat.

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Photo of Suds
4.29/5  rDev +13.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This is a cloudy, ruddy-brown colored beer with a towering, fish-eye bubble head. The head doesn't last long. The aroma is a hickory, peat smokiness. Pleasant malt charachter. The beer has a heavy mouthfeel, with occasional touches of over-sweetness. Smooth, soft finish. It's not outstanding, but it is intriguing, and a lot of fun to drink.

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Photo of Ieatlambfries
4.27/5  rDev +12.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 12 oz bottle into a pilsner glass. Took a while to pour as the head on this yeasty, hazy, amber brew was tremendous. All and all a nice appearance that left a thick lace curtain on my glass. The smell reminded me of coming home from camping and realizing that everything you have smells like the camp fire. Very smokey, but also quite malty and yeasty. The taste was excellent. The smokiness of the smell was quite prevalent with plenty of sweet malty flavors to balance it out. Slight hoppiness and also quite a bit of flavor from the lager yeast, but really more of malty smoked wood flavor over all. The mouthfeel was rich and full bodied, a bit filling actually, which is why I only gave it a 3.5 on drinkability.

Over all an excellent offering that I certainly would try again.

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Photo of BuckeyeNation
4.27/5  rDev +12.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Smoking a doppelbock, calling it Cinderbock and putting a cigarette-smoking goat on the label is sheer genius. Loving Perkuno's Hammer as I do, I have little doubt that what's inside the bottle will more than measure up to what's outside it. Thanks in advance to IrishRedRock.

Beautiful, rich reddish orange with little visible carbonation and a rather small golden beige cap. The barely perceptible 'pffft' upon crown cracking was disconcerting and I can only hope that enough carbonation remains for this to be a representative Cinderbock experience. Within minutes, the head has dropped to a barely covering film. Needless to say, the glass is lace-free.

Wonderful rauchbier-like aroma that puts me in mind of the Schlenkerla line. Not as bombastic and as sootily pungeant of its German counterparts, but no shrinking violet of smoke either. As is the case with most smoked beers, I have a hard time appreciating the beer beneath. That's not necessarily a negative, but it does lead to a sameness of aroma across the style and doesn't allow one to appreciate what might be a fascinatingly complex beer. I guess that's what tastebuds are for.

No worries, there's plenty of carbonation. For such a light-bodied beer, this one packs loads of flavor into every sip. The smokiness is far from overwhelming and is, in fact, present in near-perfect proportions as far as I'm concerned. The doppelbock nature of the beer comes through easily, even if it doesn't resemble the typical doppel (if there is such a thing, which I doubt).

The one characteristic that hooks me and draws me in more than any other is the delicious contrast between sweet and sour. Each is present in ample quantities and they intertwine in an ever-changing, always fascinating fashion. This is, unquestionably, one instance where the flavor profile total is greater than the sum of its parts. The flavor doesn't so much change in a predictable, describable arc throughout each mouthful as it shifts kaleidoscopically, never presenting the same face to its drinker from beer entry to beer exit or from first sip to last. I knew that Heavyweight wouldn't let me down, I just knew it.

The body is lager medium, but I wouldn't have it any other way. This beer is an original creation, a pastiche of elements that works beautifully. Who am I to request changes when I love the beer that Cinderbock is in the here and now? The initially (amazingly, given the initial pour) spritely carbonation loses a wee bit of steam by the bottom of the bottle, though I'm fine with the first sip, the final sip and everything in between.

As predicted in the first paragraph, Cinderbock more than measures up to its unopened bottle promise and to my rather high expectations. The brewers state that this beer is 'laced with smoke and intrigue'. I'll go along with that. Even though they were too humble to mention it, it's laced with brilliance as well.

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Photo of TheLongBeachBum
4.23/5  rDev +11.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Presentation: Stumpy 12 ounce bottle sealed with a simple brass crown cap. Plastic main label seems like it is shrink wrapped onto the front of the bottle. Design looks like the BA avatar. The doe-eyed smoking goat look surprised. Listed at 7%

Appearance: Supreme looks, thick creamy white head suits atop the hazed copper-orange body. Intensely finely dissolved carbonation sprinkles the body when gently tipped. Light lacing is all over the exposed upper portions of the glass. Solid appearance.

Nose: Smoked hickory and a pugilist cinder Ginger toffee root fill the nose. A rich nasal massage when deeply inhaled.

Taste: Brandy snap entrance has a ginger laden smile that shadows hickory smoked malts. Middle has a thick smoky bacon feel with some sweet malts and a yeast fiddle that plays on two strings. Ends with a dry ginger root finish that has some bitterness in and amongst the sweet snappy ginger tubes.

Mouthfeel: Ginger ale presentation, the conditioning is prickly as is the overall feel of the carbonation and flavors. The ginger bread feel pulsates throughout the body of this one.

Drinkability: Rather unique and very interesting, English Ginger Ale meets German Bock beer. It works, and it works well for my money, and it is very drinkable to boot.

Overall: Today is today, like today was yesterday. But I’m a year older. Thanks to the lovely Erica for this Birthday treat. Good stuff!!

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Photo of nomad
4.21/5  rDev +11.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured a glowing orange color, lightly ambered, with two hands of stain of bursting out of my imperial pint glass. I mean, this beer we just jumping with carbonation on the pour. It did calm to a very rocky head with a thinned foam consistency, supported by constant carbonation fluting up. Also had some thick lace falling about in clumps.

Smelled of a barbecue smoke foreground, some peat, and thena sweet malt background. The sweetness and peat could be cloying, though with warmth some more floral hop scents slowly appeared. The smokiness wafted away and back again like, well, the nature of smoke is apt to do.

Taste was of sweet malt and peat, then a strong grainy sort of roasted flavor - this was very complex and not of the ordinary. Bitterness came on slowly and smoothly at the finish, a low-level and barely citric kind of bitterness; indeed, a very nice touch and, to me, a sign of careful brewing. This beer had layers that rolled in each distinguishable from the last, showing a nice variety and sequence. The finish was minimal, displaying how clean and clear a beer this was, a commendable thing considering its many and odd parts. As with the explosion mentioned, I could feel the carbonation right away on my tongue, so opposite to the nice moderate bodied slick mouthfeel.

Very drinkable and interesting on levels of taste, smell, mouthfeel, and all the details in between.

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Photo of Jarod
4.2/5  rDev +10.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This beer poured into the glass a slightly hazy amber red color. The head was not long lasting and the color seemed to be a combination of beige and light orange. The aroma was not too difficult to surmise what was going on in the glass, some smoke and malt and slight yeast. That is it. The taste was a little more complex then the aroma. I tasted some smoke in the beginning mixed with flavors of malt then the yeast mixed in to the mix. Then toasted grain and some hops slowly appeared, but not to be forgotten the woody smoke came back. Slightly bitter but not, (if that makes sense). This beer was creamy and very enjoyable. I almost passed it up, but was told by a guy at Kclingers to try it, I would not be disappointed. He was right. I am glad I tried it, and would certainly get more if and when the opportunity comes up.

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Photo of Admiraldinty
4.2/5  rDev +10.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Cloudy amber. Poured an enormous white head (for some reason; maybe it warmed too fast) that stuck around until the end. Aroma is fairly smokey (as it should be) and malty. Fairly raw. Medium to full-bodied. Very smooth and creamy. Toasted malt, and then lots of smoke (although I might be missing out on some of it). Nice warming effect. Not bad for a smoked beer. I didn't think I'd like it, but I was pleasantly surprised.

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Photo of bigbeerdrinka
4.2/5  rDev +10.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a deep copper color with some golden hues. A large and beautiful offwhite head appears and leaves a nice lace. Aromas are mainly of deliciously smoked meats, similar to a mesquite or spicy barbeque like flavor. There is also a slight tone of bread like aromas in the foreground. Initial flavors remind me of eating a nice peice of homemade venison jerky, but there is more of a spicy smoked flavor with less of a meaty tone to it. There is also an apparant sweetness (honey maybe?) to this brew that goes along nicely with the smoked flavors. The finish to this brew is citric and lemony with just a whisp of smoke like favors to boot. The carbonation is a bit too strong for me personally for this brew, and takes a bit away from the full flavor potential and drinkability of this brew. Overall though, I'm not the biggest fan of smoked beers, but I could easily quaff a few of these during a summer barbeque.. An excellent offering..

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Photo of WesWes
4.17/5  rDev +10%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The beer pours a hazy dark amber color with a thin offwhite head that fades to lacing. The aroma is good. It has a nice smoked malt scent along with a Munich and light crystal malt aroma. The taste is good as well. It has a rich and smokey flavor. This is more intense than any rauchbier I have ever tried. It has a nice malty base with a slightly tart/fruity finish. The mouthfeel is fine. It is a medium bodied beer with adequate carbonation. This is a very unique beer. It has a very intense smokey aroma and flavor; a good drinker.

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Photo of beveragecaptain
4.17/5  rDev +10%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

12 ounce bottle. Heavyweight Cinderbock pours out a cloudy amber color with a small head. The aroma is slightly sweet and very smoky that makes me think of ham. The flavor is smoky, but in addition to the ham-like smokiness, there is also a charred smokiness that balances the malty sweetness. Although the smoke flavor is strong, lots of malt flavor comes through. Minimal hoppiness. Full mouthfeel. Good drinkability for a beer this smoky. Another fine Heavyweight beer.

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Photo of Franchise
4.15/5  rDev +9.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This beer pours maroon and leaves a thin white lace. The nose is spectacular, so smokey just the right amount of smoke and sweetness in the nose. The body is clean, clear, with a small amount of yeast settled in the bottom of the glass. The taste starts on the palate smooth, def malty up front by design smoke infused bock. The taste on the palate then moves to a small lemon tartness on the palate, to a smoke presence that reminds me of eating some smoked meats almost savory funny what the nose can tell the tastebuds, then it finishes sweet with some caramel, toffee, and the smokiness you get from roasted nuts. Very complex and a pleasure to drink.

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Cinderbock from Heavyweight Brewing Co.
Beer rating: 3.79 out of 5 with 103 ratings