Cinderbock | Heavyweight Brewing Co.

very good
103 Ratings

Brewed by:
Heavyweight Brewing Co.
New Jersey, United States

Style: Doppelbock

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 7.00%

Availability: Winter

Notes / Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

Added by Todd on 12-02-2001

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Photo of Sammy
3.45/5  rDev -9.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A most interesting surprise from the gifts of the generous Ilkerts in NJ. This one is average in every respect, albeit very fresh and refreshing at the end of another super humid day. Sourness like their baltic porter! Smoke which is not my thing. Bit of metallic aftertaste.

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Photo of brentk56
3.73/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Pours a very hazy copper color with a prodigious head that left thick bands of lacing around the glass

Smell: Lightly smoked malt aromas waft upwards, with a vague smoked salmon essence that also reminds me of charred embers

Taste: Starts out with a mouthfull of smokey, but slightly sweet malt; after the swallow, a depth of additional malty flavor appears that is also slightly astringent

Mouthfeel: Medium bodied with moderate carbonation

Drinkability: At first, I didn't focus on the "Cinderbock" reference and wondered what it was that I was tasting; with some thought, I find this an intriguing beer for a change of pace; to call it a Doppelbock does it a disservice; it really belongs in the smoked beer category where it stands alone

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Photo of NeroFiddled
4.64/5  rDev +21.8%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

Bottled in March and patiently aged for 9 months (although I'm not sure that any real change has occured). Carefully poured, it's only slightly hazy (and has a cleaner, and obviously less yeasty, taste than when the yeast swirl is eventually poured). The tawny body is topped by a full, pillowy ivory head that holds well but leaves only minor spotty lace. The aroma combines a clear Beechwood smokiness with a rich, sweet maltiness that reminds me very much of the beers of Bamburg. I find it quite welcoming, and even comforting. Both the body and carbonation are medium, and the very fine bubbles caress the tongue before becoming creamy in the mouth. The flavor is more complex than the nose suggests, with a sweet graininess upfront followed by some pleasant woody notes from the smoked malt. It then becoming more toasty as the bitterness rises, and finishes with a long lasting bitter/sweet and smoky finish that's entrancing and enticing. At this point the previously hidden alcohol steps out to help dry things up. Beautifully balanced! The smokiness is not so bold as to turn you away at the first sip, but strong enough to maintain your interest (as your palate becomes accustomed to it) throughout the entire glass. The rich maltiness supports the smoke, but is also supported itself by an underlying bitterness. Exceptionally well done and well worth seeking out!

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Photo of BuckeyeNation
4.27/5  rDev +12.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Smoking a doppelbock, calling it Cinderbock and putting a cigarette-smoking goat on the label is sheer genius. Loving Perkuno's Hammer as I do, I have little doubt that what's inside the bottle will more than measure up to what's outside it. Thanks in advance to IrishRedRock.

Beautiful, rich reddish orange with little visible carbonation and a rather small golden beige cap. The barely perceptible 'pffft' upon crown cracking was disconcerting and I can only hope that enough carbonation remains for this to be a representative Cinderbock experience. Within minutes, the head has dropped to a barely covering film. Needless to say, the glass is lace-free.

Wonderful rauchbier-like aroma that puts me in mind of the Schlenkerla line. Not as bombastic and as sootily pungeant of its German counterparts, but no shrinking violet of smoke either. As is the case with most smoked beers, I have a hard time appreciating the beer beneath. That's not necessarily a negative, but it does lead to a sameness of aroma across the style and doesn't allow one to appreciate what might be a fascinatingly complex beer. I guess that's what tastebuds are for.

No worries, there's plenty of carbonation. For such a light-bodied beer, this one packs loads of flavor into every sip. The smokiness is far from overwhelming and is, in fact, present in near-perfect proportions as far as I'm concerned. The doppelbock nature of the beer comes through easily, even if it doesn't resemble the typical doppel (if there is such a thing, which I doubt).

The one characteristic that hooks me and draws me in more than any other is the delicious contrast between sweet and sour. Each is present in ample quantities and they intertwine in an ever-changing, always fascinating fashion. This is, unquestionably, one instance where the flavor profile total is greater than the sum of its parts. The flavor doesn't so much change in a predictable, describable arc throughout each mouthful as it shifts kaleidoscopically, never presenting the same face to its drinker from beer entry to beer exit or from first sip to last. I knew that Heavyweight wouldn't let me down, I just knew it.

The body is lager medium, but I wouldn't have it any other way. This beer is an original creation, a pastiche of elements that works beautifully. Who am I to request changes when I love the beer that Cinderbock is in the here and now? The initially (amazingly, given the initial pour) spritely carbonation loses a wee bit of steam by the bottom of the bottle, though I'm fine with the first sip, the final sip and everything in between.

As predicted in the first paragraph, Cinderbock more than measures up to its unopened bottle promise and to my rather high expectations. The brewers state that this beer is 'laced with smoke and intrigue'. I'll go along with that. Even though they were too humble to mention it, it's laced with brilliance as well.

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Photo of Jason
4.32/5  rDev +13.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Presentation: 12 oz short brown bottle with no freshness date though the smoked malt and higher level of alcohol will give this brew and extended shelf life.

Appearance: Hazy from the yeast showing a tawny colour, rocky head stays as long as the beer is there.

Smell: Fresh malty aroma with a lined hard wood smokehouse and yeasty smell. In the raw and very aromatic.

Taste: Medium to full bodied, light crispness within the creamy mouth feel. Very malty with an even bigger smokiness and a thin layer of yeastiness on the palate. Deep complex toasted malt flavours and smoke linger forever. Hops are mild with a light twang within the smokiness and bitterness middle to end that struggles to match up to the malt. Smokiness tastes like a hard wood rich smoke and is close to being dominant. Warmth from the alcohol hints in the end as the beer finishes off a tad sweet and smoky.

Notes: Wow! I knew it was smoked but this is a deep smokiness that is strong but does not go overboard. Maltiness makes sure of that and an alcohol that is late in the game brings things around. Once I knew it was this smoky I went right to the creamy goat cheese and crackers for a contrast pairing.

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Photo of WVbeergeek
4.04/5  rDev +6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Appears an amber orange tone with a thin off white head. Aroma is a sharp sweetness masked by a screen of smokiness. Almost like being in a smokehouse, with hickory tones to it very pleasant. My first smoked lager of any kind and the label is awesome a smoking goat, gotta love it. Taste in my opinion is wonderful, it mixes sweet malty bock characteristics with a stream of smokiness that just works. This beer is daring and I am glad the brewer took the chance with this one. Mouthfeel is highly carbonated full mouthfeel, but smooth drinking overall. I think anyone who cares for smoked beers would love this smoked lager.

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Photo of rab53
4/5  rDev +5%

Photo of Billolick
3.56/5  rDev -6.6%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

12 oz bottle, this one opened with a burst, poured with a ton of carbonation, 4 inch head and a lot of bubble continuing to rise up.I was a bit worried this stuff had turned.Anyway it calmed down in the glass and exhibited a strong smoky nose, a nice smoky flavor profile and a decent, if highly carbonated finish. This stuff tastes like a BBQ. Not for everybody , but its allways worth supporting the good folks @ Heavyweight

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Photo of feloniousmonk
3.58/5  rDev -6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

This brew is a true sight to see, for as the crown is cracked and pressure is popped, smoke furiously spews from the bottle, bubbles oozing from the neck. Cautiously, grinning with anticipation from such a momentous debut, we pour...appearance is a hazy, dark amber hue, with a head supremely fizzy at first, soon to settle into a tight white collar.
Aroma: heady, fruity, and soon overcome by the smoke factor...oh, yeah, it's all over the place now, leaving little in it's wake but the essence of smoked salmon.
Big, buzzing carbonation greets the tongue, and the smoke flavor follows and soon takes dominion of the senses. Body is rather light, and texture is, well, fully engulfed by smoke. The substance of the bock is well-sustained, if on the flimsy side, though the flavor is fully overtaken by the smoke. It's all you taste here, really.
A very interesting beer, and wholly unique. Big points for the novelty of the thing, but I can't see myself indulging in more than one on a lark.
Thanks go to BeerFan for this one.

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Photo of Gavage
3.28/5  rDev -13.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Bought the sampler 4 pack and Cinderbock sported a lovely cartoon goat smoking a cigarette. I usually pair a smoked beer with bbq food, but I decided to crack it open without food. The beer poured with a large head, and was over carbinated. After letting it sit, the I noticed a lightly cloudy copper-colored lager that had a smokey odor. The smoked malt provided a strong, but not overpowering flavor. The aftertaste lingered more than I like (but then again I didn't pair this with food). Compared to other smoke beers I have sampled, this is one of the better ones even though I felt this bottle was overcarbinated. Very unique and worth trying, but this is a one bottle limit in a stand alone tasting session.

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Photo of WesWes
4.17/5  rDev +9.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The beer pours a hazy dark amber color with a thin offwhite head that fades to lacing. The aroma is good. It has a nice smoked malt scent along with a Munich and light crystal malt aroma. The taste is good as well. It has a rich and smokey flavor. This is more intense than any rauchbier I have ever tried. It has a nice malty base with a slightly tart/fruity finish. The mouthfeel is fine. It is a medium bodied beer with adequate carbonation. This is a very unique beer. It has a very intense smokey aroma and flavor; a good drinker.

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Photo of Gueuzedude
3.78/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Pours a lightly hazy amber-orange color with a frothy, fairly thin, pale tan head. The aroma has a distinct note of smoked malt plus some sweet caramelized notes. The aroma is quite nice if a bit singular in distinction. The taste is somewhat sweet up front with a body that is a bit full, but still fairly light in the grand scheme of things. The finish initially has a sharp, prominent smoky note, which becomes a bit more tame over time as my palate get used to the smoke. The smoke actually permeates throughout the taste of this beer, though it is not nearly as strong as some. There is a touch of sweet caramel here and some dry toasted malt notes. This beer is eminently drinkable, yet it is not nearly as rich and flavorful as I was hopping, really this is my own problem though. Quite an enjoyable beer, and I would certainly love to try this quite a few more times.

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Photo of jdhilt
2.69/5  rDev -29.4%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours with a thick head but not much lace is left. This is a unique lager, having a distinct medicinal nose and taste. A hazy coppery color probably from the Bavarian lager yeast. I think you will either like or hate this beer, there is not much middle ground. Found in 4-paks ($7.99) at the Wine Society in Tyngsboro, Ma.

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Photo of ppoitras
4.02/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

12ozer from a mixed Heavyweight Brewing 4-pack purchased at Yankee Spirits, Sturbridge, MA.

Poured into a pint glass, a HUGE frothy head formed immediately, so much so that I was unable to initally fit the full 12 oz in the glass. Beer was a orangish golden hue, and the aroma was like the air after a three-alarmer, smoke everywhere. Head still hanging on strong after 5 minutes and getting the whole beer poured, with froth sticking everywhere that the head has been. Taste is remarkably not as strong as the odor would lead you to believe, but the smoke comes on strong in the aftertaste. A good beer for those who smoke when they drink, they wouldn't even have to light up... Fits the style to a T.

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Photo of Suds
4.29/5  rDev +12.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This is a cloudy, ruddy-brown colored beer with a towering, fish-eye bubble head. The head doesn't last long. The aroma is a hickory, peat smokiness. Pleasant malt charachter. The beer has a heavy mouthfeel, with occasional touches of over-sweetness. Smooth, soft finish. It's not outstanding, but it is intriguing, and a lot of fun to drink.

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Photo of Bighuge
4.45/5  rDev +16.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

The beer has a nice hazy deep copper color. A thin head that retains a bit. There is a nicely subdued malt aroma laced with subtle smoke nuances. Really nice taste. A little bit syrupy, but it fits nicely with this brew. Nicely integrated smoke taste. Great full maltiness on the palate. Little to no hop taste. Body is medium to full. No sign of alcohol in this 7% a/v beer. Very easy drinking. A very solid brew.

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Photo of Gusler
3.97/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

As it sets in my special “BOK” glass, the color a amber to orange, the head pythonic in size, bubbly in texture, light tan in color and as it evanesces, the lace forms a fine sheet to seal off the glass. The smell of smoke dominates the somewhat sweet nose, makes me want to fire up a stogie? Begins sweet malt, top is rich and thick, the finish “Smokey”, perkily acidic, the hops understated, dry and a real treat for this “Grizzled Old Dark Ale” lover, my thanks to beerluvr once again for this opportunity to sample a most enjoyable beer.

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Photo of Dogbrick
3.8/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Acquired via trade. Lightly cloudy golden yellow color with a medium thin white head that dissipated pretty quickly. Thin lacing. Smoky malt aroma. Medium-bodied with a creamy mouthfeel. Lots of smoke flavor with malt and a bit of fruit in the background. The finish is smooth and malty with some spices peeking through. Very unique beer that is hard to categorize and easy to enjoy.

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Photo of tavernjef
4.03/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

What a strange beer this is? Not what I was expecting, but after reading the label and seeing the smoking goat pictured on it, how was I supposed to know.
Super awesome, cloudy as hell, dark amber brownish color, lots of carbonation bubbles within, head is off-white, thin and firmly creamy and keeps a solid haze and ring on top; lingering lace in strings. The smell of this is like non other I have wafted, I like it, but its a bit weird - it smells like smoked bacon or jerky of some kind, quite nice if you like that sort of thing, reminded of a recent smoked salmon dish I had. Taste is nearly like the smell, heavy smokey taste that seems to be bacon-like in flavor with a lightly sweet malt backing trying to keep it from starting a fire. Where's there's smoke....? One weird ass beer? Feel is medium bodied with a smooth carbonation and a thin creamyness to it. Its interesting to say the least. I could drink a ton of these, but I think the taste might get a little old after awhile, cuz you can only eat so much bacon, before you just can't handle it anymore, as with this beer.

Thanks to BeerFan for the bottle.

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Photo of Bierman9
4.3/5  rDev +12.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

It's real nice to have Heavyweight available around here these days.
Cinderbock has a medium copper color, a bit lighter than I expected, with a short, fine off-white head. Lacing was at a minimum, and a bit of residue in the bottle produced a slight cloudiness.
The aroma was very pleasant! A cross between a rauchbier and a bock is a great idea. The smokiness, though not as strong, reminded me right off of a Schlenkerla. And the malty sweetness present made for a good nose!
The body tended to be about medium, and the carbonation produced a bubbly/foamy feel on the tongue.
Malt flavors were present in good amounts, with a nice level of sweetness, as well as some caramel. The smoky aspect is just right; not too subtle that you have to search for it, yet not dominant either. The rauch flavors linger long on the palate in a savory manner. The finish is just a bit dry, too.
This is a very drinkable bier! I love the rauch/bock combo, and will definitely get more! Zum Wohl!!

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Photo of francisweizen
2.96/5  rDev -22.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 2

This is only my second smoke ale, and I am still not impressed. This poured a nice enough pale amber colour with an ample head but the aromas were just too smoky for me (literally). This beer smelled like a big piece of smoked ham, or smoked sausage and it tasted very similar. You can taste the hops and the malts in this beer, but they are hidden very well by this beers smokiness. The mouthfeel was balanced enough, but for me the drinkability is very bad, as I struggled to finish one bottle of this...

Cheers to Beerluvr for the bottle and the experience!

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Photo of TheLongBeachBum
4.23/5  rDev +11%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Presentation: Stumpy 12 ounce bottle sealed with a simple brass crown cap. Plastic main label seems like it is shrink wrapped onto the front of the bottle. Design looks like the BA avatar. The doe-eyed smoking goat look surprised. Listed at 7%

Appearance: Supreme looks, thick creamy white head suits atop the hazed copper-orange body. Intensely finely dissolved carbonation sprinkles the body when gently tipped. Light lacing is all over the exposed upper portions of the glass. Solid appearance.

Nose: Smoked hickory and a pugilist cinder Ginger toffee root fill the nose. A rich nasal massage when deeply inhaled.

Taste: Brandy snap entrance has a ginger laden smile that shadows hickory smoked malts. Middle has a thick smoky bacon feel with some sweet malts and a yeast fiddle that plays on two strings. Ends with a dry ginger root finish that has some bitterness in and amongst the sweet snappy ginger tubes.

Mouthfeel: Ginger ale presentation, the conditioning is prickly as is the overall feel of the carbonation and flavors. The ginger bread feel pulsates throughout the body of this one.

Drinkability: Rather unique and very interesting, English Ginger Ale meets German Bock beer. It works, and it works well for my money, and it is very drinkable to boot.

Overall: Today is today, like today was yesterday. But I’m a year older. Thanks to the lovely Erica for this Birthday treat. Good stuff!!

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Photo of alexgash
3.45/5  rDev -9.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Great label. Kinda wish the beer were better. Starts off nicely, with a dark amber body and a medium-sized light tan head. Smells of smoked salmon, eggs, and slight malts. Taste is very sweet to begin with--too sweet--the ensuing smokiness doesn't subdue it enough. The smoked flavors are there, though, and they are salty and meaty--like beef jerky. In fact, maybe I will substitute this beer for jerky on my next road trip. Does Conoco stock Heavyweight beers? Finish is slightly bitter with traces of smokiness and camp fire. Very interesting. Mouthfeel is a little syrupy, and I don't think I could drink this on a regular basis.

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Photo of WanderingFool
4.1/5  rDev +7.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Cinderbock pours a hazy dark honey color with some yellow hues mixed in. A frothy head forms on the surface which lasts throughout the entire glass. Some clumps of lace are left clinging to the sides after each sip.

The aroma is an interesting combination of smoke, cherry and caramel malt. Each sip of this medium bodied beer begins with a slightly tart fruity flavor (cherry), a bbq smokeness quickly moves in and there's a nice roasted malt taste holding it all together. It finishes slightly bitter with a hint of citrus.

This is a nice flavor filled beer, but not something I could drink everyday. It is great for a change of pace or if you happen to be having a hearty meal.

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Photo of tgbljb
4.09/5  rDev +7.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured a hazy peach color with moderate slightly off-white head. The smell is interesting, as an understatement.It makes me feel as if I.m in the backyard burning a stack of hardwoods, and the way your clothes smell after you have been around a campfire. The smokiness is like nothing I've ever experienced in a beer. At first it is a bit suprising, but after a few whiffs it become supremely enjoyable. The first taste is also a bit different, as if I'm tasting strongly smoked meats poured into a glass. After a few tastes, and as the beer warms, the taste become very nice and pleasant in the mouth. A very soothing beer to drink while sitting in front of a roaring fire in front of the fireplace on a Thanksgiving afternoon after eating eating too much turkey and watching a boring football game. I will make sure I have more of these available next year for Thansgiving. At least if the football is bad, the beer will be good.

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Cinderbock from Heavyweight Brewing Co.
3.81 out of 5 based on 103 ratings.
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