Decadence 2009 Dunkel Weizenbock
AleSmith Brewing Company

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German Weizenbock
4.05 | pDev: 10.62%
AleSmith Brewing Company
California, United States
Retired (no longer brewed)
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Photo of DefenCorps
4.28/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Two reviews in one day? Wow. Thanks, Carlos!

Gushing over my counter, this beer is a mildly hazy blackish dark brown with reddish brown highlights. There's a thin, light brown head with pretty good retention and minimal lacing. The nose is great. It delivers all I'd want from a dunkel weizenbock. Banana bread esters, whole wheat bread, some chocolate, a little clove, this is a beautiful blend. A touch of cola is also present. Alcohol is shockingly well hidden.

The palate is initially way too fizzy, but once the carbonation settles down, this improves quite a bit. A nice, moderately sweet banana bread character along with some clove, yeast, whole wheat and dark caramel is present. The sweetness is moderate, probably a little overdone, but it works here. The mid-palate has a mild spicy phenolic character to go with a mild chocolate character. Sweet on the finish with caramel-drizzled banana bread, this beer nails the essence of the fruity banana bread character that weizenbocks are supposed to have. Medium in body and a little to carbonated early on, this really does shine once it warms up, quietens down and has had time to open up. Excellent.

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Photo of abrand
4.4/5  rDev +8.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

750 mL bottle poured into a weizen glass.

Pours a cola brown color with a huge off white head that slowly fades. Smell is quite sweet with grapes and plums. Some malts as well. Taste is sweet and smooth. Very good tasting beer. Lots of fruits including raisins and plums with a malty finish. No alcohol is noticed. Great tasting beer. Mouthfeel is medium bodied and still great carbonation. Overall this is truly a great beer.

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Photo of UCLABrewN84
3.97/5  rDev -2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle pour at the bottle share hosted by Adam Fine Wine & Liquor held at Sophie’s Place in Redondo Beach, CA.

Pours a clear dark copper with a foamy dark khaki head that settles to a film on top of the beer. Small dots of lace form around the glass on the drink down. Smell is of malt, grain, brown sugar, yeast, spice, and some fruity aromas. Taste is much the same with dark fruit flavors and a spice finish. This beer has a good level of carbonation with a crisp mouthfeel. Overall, this is a good beer with some solid aromas and flavors that is tasty and easy to drink.

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Photo of LiquidAmber
4.25/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Review from 3/2011 notes. Poured into a Black Raven pint glass. Pours a cloudy dark red-orange amber. Nice thick white head and lacing. Looks nice. Aroma is a strong blend of light fruit, banana, caramel and some phenolic components. A medium bodied creamy ale. Tastes great with dark and light fruit, caramel, light spicing and only a hint of wheat. Very nicely made. A somewhat astringent finish takes away from an otherwise superb bock.

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Photo of claspada
4.1/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Bottle courtesy of BeerWorld in a trade about a year ago.

Pours a semi-translucent brown in color with plenty of ruby red highlights and an average sized soapy khaki colored head that dissipates surprisingly fast.

The aromas begin quite muted but open up dramatically as it warms. A great deal of caramel candied maltiness with lesser amounts of toffee, light milk chocolate and an underlying dark fruitiness highlighted by ripe figs. There is an underlying banana bread yeastiness which is extremely mild and well integrated at this point.

The tastes follow the nose but with a bunch more dark fruitiness. Plenty of dark caramelized malts coupled with light sweet milk chocolate and light candy toffee. Really a ton of raisin fruitiness and caramel candy flavors, but it def not too sweet or anywhere near cloying despite my flavor descriptors. What keep it in balance is the nice lager weizen yeast. It adds a nice dryness and mild spice/clove balance which is awesome.

Mouthfeel is medium bodied with medium carbonation. Finish is initially sweet and yet dry and clean thanks to the weizen yeast characteristics. Really a great balance which is always a plus in my book.

Overall this is the second best Weizenbock I have ever had. It is more malty than the traditional Aventinus example (which is top class for me), but this is a really nice American take on a style which is traditionally too yeasty and not a huge favorite of mine, but this was super. Still drinkable with zero alcohol which is always impressive for a lager of this ABV. Def recommended and absolutely well worth seeking out for fans of AleSmith or fans of the style.

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Photo of ZX6Chris
4.45/5  rDev +9.9%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Opened this for no good goddamn reason at all.

Alesmith Decadence 09. Malty, dark fruit!!!! There's a real strong sweetness that lingers on the finish. It's like sucking on a hard candy. Highly carbed and creamy. This could of easily been port barrel aged. It's so fruity with such a nice mild sweetness that it's more like a BSDA or Quad. A little heat still, this could age well for years to come.

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Photo of scottfrie
3.93/5  rDev -3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Thanks for opening this gusher, Mike. Served into a snifter.

A: A gusher of a bottle exploded upon opening but made for a great looking beer in the glass. This beer poured a murky dark brown with a huge off-white head that faded into a great thick fuzzy film that left decent lacing.
S: I get dominant notes of sweet fruits including sweet berries and grape jelly.
T: Follows the nose with flavors of sweet grapes and raisins, spicy sweet fruits, dark fruits, plums, prunes and a bit of vanilla and chocolate. The finish is heavy and contains a bit of ripe banana.
M: Medium-full body, very frothy carbonation that bubbles up on my palate, and a tingly, airy mouthfeel.
O: Enjoyable flavors but the over carbonation took away from the mouthfeel and drinkability. Definitely worth a try though. Thanks again Mike.

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Photo of ckeegan04
3.86/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A - Huge light brown head sitting on top of dark chocolate colored beer. Faint reddish hues around the edge. Very active carbonation.

S - Big boozy aroma up front with a strong backing of banana, dark fruits and a bit of dark bread. Beer sweetens up nicely as the beer warms.

T - Bready wheat notes with lots of dark fruit. Alcohol is a bit overwhelming initally but as the beer warms a bit the booze fades. A toffee like sweetness comes on as the beer warms as well.

M - Medium bodied, but not as chewy as I expect out of weizenbock. Good carbonation makes the beer rather lively in the mouth.

O - Another excellent beer from AleSmith. A tasty weizenbock but not and amazing one.

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Photo of Trilogy31
3.38/5  rDev -16.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pours a amber brown with nice clarity with a frothy head that quickly leaves light lacing in its wake - very similar in looks to the coton i popped recently. The taste brings nougat, rich slightly burnt caramel, bananas foster, sweet belgian spices wrap up the nose. The taste brings an earthy forest floor quality, creme bruleed banana, along with unsweetened toffee. The finish brings a light touch of heat and seemingly is undercarbonated. Decent beer, but not worth its pedigree.

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Photo of mdfb79
4.15/5  rDev +2.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

From 06/25/11 notes. Shared this one with a few friends; been holding onto it since it was released and been looking forward to it. Poured from a 750ml bottle into my Bruery tulip.

a - Pours a murky, very dark brown color with one to two inches of off white head and moderate carbonation evident. Head leaves no lacing and doesn't have much retention.

s - Smells of caramel malts, toffee, bananas, cloves, light spice, oak, and roasted malts. Very nice mix of bananas and caramel in the nose.

t - Tastes of bananas, cloves, caramel malts, roasted malts, toffee, oak/wood, spices, and light pepper. Bananas a little more forward than the nose, but still very nice.

m - Medium to full body and moderate carbonation evident. Very smooth and creamy, with medium sweetness to it. Great mouthfeel.

o - Overall I really liked this beer. Lots of caramel mixing with bananas and cloves, and great mouthfeel. Would like to have it again.

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Photo of mikesgroove
4.03/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

deep dark brown, with nice reddish highlights that circled the bottom and the sides of the glass. Rich head of off white, eggshell color comes up about an inch before settling down and leaving in its wake a nice an well rounded cap of foam and lacing.

Aroma is ripe with dark fruits, chewey caramel and rich toffee notes. Warming brings up even more fruit, dark figs, plums, lots of sweet bready malts and lots of funky flavors coming through now. Butterscotch mixed with a lightly tart fruit note, this was very complex and has held up remarkably well. Smooth, steady carbonation and while not being too light or heavy, it certainly won me over with its well balanced and rich profile.

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Photo of Thorpe429
3.58/5  rDev -11.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to overlord for the bottle. Served in a snifter.

Pours a very dark brown with a half-finger of an off-white head and some spotty lacing. The nose smells like banana, clove, and too much roasted malt and chocolate for the style. All but the malt is a bit too faint for such a big beer. The taste has quite a bit of stronger malt and not enough yeast character. It's actually pretty plain. Medium body with light carbonation. I don't really have all that much to say about this. As it warms some more sweeter malts and dark fruits come through, but it's still not all that impressive.

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Photo of mynie
4.3/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Purchased in July, somewhere in LA.

You got to be in the right kind of mood to crack open a 750 ml bottle of a weizenbock. Or, I need to be, since I'm not by nature a decadent sort. But today's been the kind of day where if I were a TV housewife I'd be in bad need of a bubble bath, so I thought it was time to uncap this bad boy.

Chalice pour, and it's thick and dark purple. More of a cap than a head, and it leaves more of a webbing than a lacing--lots of round circles scrunched together, like using a microscope to look at a spider's face. Only that spider is made of beer.

Smells like a sweet Belgian brown--not at all what you expect out of a weizenbock. Fruity Belgian malt, fruiter belgian yeast. Seriously--the wheatmalt just ain't there, nor are there any nodes of roastiness or chocolate. But what is there is a nice, a bold-yet-smooth mixture of ripe fruits.

Tastes like it smells. Only there's a tanginess here that takes it beyond a Belgian brown and into its old little plane of delicious weirdness. It's like raisins and dates up front, then tart alcohol in the middle, then as it slides down my throat I start getting a little bit of w-bockiness, the chocolate and the round, sweet wheat.

It's real good. And it *is* decadent, really, even for a weizenbock, which is saying something since weizenbocks are pretty much the comfort food of beers.

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Photo of csmiley
4.28/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A HUGE thanks goes to prototypic for sharing this gem!

A - Pours reddish brown. It's pretty dark but some sienna is easily noticed on the edges of the glass. The thick tan head rises to an impressive two and a half to three fingers deep. It quickly turns rocky and sticks around for a while. Lacing is pretty minimal but overall it looks very good.

S - Caramel kicks it off. A lighter wheat twang comes and goes quickly. Powdered cocoa has a very strong presence in this version of Decadence. Warm alcohol is constantly there but stays in check and never gets in the way. Sweet towards the end with hints of cooked caramel and banana.

T - Taste follows smell closely. Lots of caramel sweetness shows up all through the flavor. Wheat is a little stronger than the aroma would lead you to believe. Still, it's mild. Cocoa is present throughout and adds a nice addition to the sweet caramel. Banana and coconut come and go but stay in the background for the most part. Light smokiness on the end that really works well for this brew. Very well.

M - Medium bodied with a smooth carbonation that comes close to creamy. Finish is mostly sweet with a touch of dryness.

D - Drinkability is very good for a brew that comes in at 9%. I expected to take my time with this one but it's just too good and smooth to stick around in the glass for any length of time. The 750 ml bottle was split but I'd have no problem putting away the whole bottle. A little age seems to have worked really well for this brew. Even though it's not quite to style, it still remains a great brew in it's own right. another success from Alesmith Brewing Company.

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Photo of prototypic
4/5  rDev -1.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2009 Decadence pours a very dark brown color. It's a little hazy, but when held to light has dark burgundy highlights. A large tan head caps it off and stands nearly three fingers tall. It dissipates very slowly, and leaves a light to moderate coat of lace in its wake.

The nose good, but isn't spectacular. It kicks off with some spicy notes. Pepper and clove are most notable. Unfortunately, I'm not getting much banana. Maybe a little. That's disappointing. Sweet caramel and chocolate malts are definitely present and accounted for. The chocolate variety smells cocoa-esque. A little dark fruit is secondary. Smells mostly like raisin. Yeast is rather prominent throughout. Alcohol is noted, but isn't overly strong.

The flavor is likewise good, but isn't anywhere near mind blowing. It has a pretty good malty base that features cocoa-like chocolate and light caramel flavors. It's not quite as sweet as I expected. Not a bad thing. Clove and pepper spices are easily noted. There is a little banana present, but I'd like more. Just my preference. Yeast is rather prominent and resonates throughout. Raisin is a complementary flavor and works pretty well. Alcohol is definitely noticeable in taste. Maybe a little boozy. It's not quite warming, but it's not far off. Finishes spicy with a tangy dark fruit twist.

The body is on the lighter side of medium. Carbonation is active, but the bubbles feel light. It's relatively smooth, but not creamy. Drinkability is good. The flavor's not perfect, but it is pretty good. I'm splitting the 750, but could've probably tackled it alone. For a big beer, it is rather easy drinking. But, I do enjoy Weizenbocks, so perhaps there is room to disagree.

I had really high hopes for 2009 Decadence. I'm a big Weizenbock fan. How is it? It's good, but isn't a great release. Personally, I think it needs more banana and a little less booziness. Other than that, Alesmith did a pretty credible job. It's not exactly what I'd hoped, but it is good and I'm always glad to try a Decadence release.

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Photo of mothman
4.22/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured into tulip.

Pours 2 fingers of creamy off white head. Color is a copper brown.

Aroma: Bananas, caramel, nuts, cloves, yeast. Lots of yeast.

Taste: Raisins, plums, figs, toffee, caramel, bananas, and cloves. Pretty decent flavors. A very big weizen with a lot of other nice touches to it.

Mouthfeel: Creamy and smooth. Medium bodied with a medium amount of carbonation. Ends a bit dry, but clena.

Overall, this is pretty easy drinking; especially considering how high the abv is. Pretty happy with this one.

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Photo of Gobzilla
4.02/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: poured a dark brown with brownish maroon highlights but had a thin bubbly head and left a little lacing sticking to the glass.

S: The nose was very fruit forward with banana and the peel but was mostly sweet malts alongside hints of caramel and nuttiness.

T: banana was also there on the palate upfront with dark fruit character such as raisins but it did have lots of sweet malts, apple pear esters, and booze accents.

M: the brew was full in body with a good amount of tingly carbonation which had a sweet and booze finish.

D: it drank pretty good but IMO it was more booze than I thought it would be. I doesn't mean it wasn't delicious cause it was nice and tasty.

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Photo of kbutler1
3.58/5  rDev -11.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottle. Pours a mahogany brown red with a slight tan head. The nose reminds me totally of banana runts almost covered with caramel! Smells so sweet. Not as malty as I thought it would be upon my first sip. Tastes like banana and caramel and now that I think that, it is all that I am tasting. Ends with an odd taste in the end. Medium mouthfeel. Overall, probably not my most favorite style and not something I could drink a ton of but decent overall.

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Photo of StephenRich
3.91/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

California is filled with some of the worlds best breweries, and I am madly jealous of my friends who live there. It seems like every day there is a new beer, or festival, or event happening in California to celebrate great beer - and the great beers continue to flow. One of my favorite such breweries is AleSmith. We don't get their beers in Ontario, but they are being distributed further across the US all the time.

In 2005 AleSmith celebrated their 10th year brewing beer by creating the Decadence Anniversary Ale. This is a celebratory beer that can be cellared for years, or enjoyed immediately. It comes around every fall, and each year it is a different beer and beer style, but always is decadent. This bottle that I had, and was eagerly excited to try was the 2009 Dunkel Weizenbock. This is a pretty big, and complex beer style - also at 9% abv.

It came in a gold foil covered 750ml wine bottle. Essentially what you get is a combination of rich dark malts, caramel malts, malted wheat, and a German Yeast. This is AleSmith's celebration beer, so should we expect an explosion of flavor here? I think so!

I opened the Decadence cool around 8C (45F) and poured it gently into a tulip glass. The pour was rich and lively showing huge crashing waves of pale cream carbonation rushing through a dark mahogany beer. What built in the glass was a glowing amber brown beer which was menacingly close to black. It shone with deep purples and garnet, and an opaque raisin burning deep in the center. The head was big and powerful; a tall 3 inches above the beer, it showed great retention. The carbonation was tight and perfectly uniform with amazingly spherical bubbles from head to toe. The beer itself was nice, but this magnificently cream colored light tan head really caught my eye.

The nose was richly aromatic with classic Weizenbock flavors. Big rich dark fruit perfumes from the beer bringing raisins, dates, plums, mashed bananas and prunes. Spice lingers the whole time with a richly boozy scent and touches of black pepper, clove, cinnamon and allspice. I get a lot of malt here that comes off powerful.. very powerful. Rich toffee and burnt brown sugar plays a dominant role and bitter chocolate and roast flows in from the sides. This is a beastly beer that smells like 9%.

But now its time to get right into this beer, and in a big way. The first sip was wide and overpowering. A thick rush of sticky, malty brown sugar and stewed plums wash right over my tongue touching baked cherry pie and molasses. All the fruit flavors here come pilling in at once. Plums, raisins, dates, figs, apples and bananas crash right down on your tongue, flow off to your cheeks and then fade into bitter chocolate, roast and a touch of herbal hops.

The overall sensation here is warming with an intriguing balance between rich malt, complex spice, dark bitterness and booze. It is a big beer with big flavors that are actually a bit tough to get through. The alcohol adds a bit of a rough edge to the beer, and leads me to believe that this will improve and mellow with some time in the cellar.

As the beers warms though there is a smooth wave of new sensations coming though with espresso, biscuit, toast and cherries. What helps the beer very much is the soft and elegant mouthfeel that is a touch creamy, and lightly effervescent. It really feels refined. The finish is lightly crisp but largely rich, still. The flavors linger in your palate with a dry, Cab-Sav sort of feeling. Even with the big alcoholic feeling, it is still very drinkable as a slow sipper. Definitely not for the faint of heart, or even newbie beer drinkers. There is a lot in this beer, and it will overwhelm under experienced palates.

If you love rich beers though, and love weizenboocks, this celebratory beer will be a great pleasure. I still think it will be best in 2012, but now I would enjoy it with roast beef, Indian dishes, any chocolate deserts, with a nice maduro cigar, or on its own by the fire.

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Photo of emmasdad
3.87/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured into my Duvel tulip a very, very dark brown color, with a half inch or so of light brown foam. Big aromas here, brown sugar, baking spices and banana. On the palate, the banana plays nicely against the spiciness, the alcohol and the malt. A nice effort.

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Photo of armock
4.3/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A - Poured a very dark brown color with a tan head that leaves lacing behind

S - Has a dark fruity nose with some banana with cloves and other spices

T - This is a Weizenbock that will blow your mind with how it tastes like the nose dark fruits and bananas with some good spices

M - This beer has a medium body with medium carbonation to it

D - I think this is the best Weizenbock that I've had in some time tastes awesome and drinks too easy for the abv if you can still find this vintage grab up what you can

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Photo of Bubba83
4.32/5  rDev +6.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 750ml bottle into a Weizen Glass around 50 degrees.

Looks dark brown, with a tan, 2 finger width head, decent sized bubbles. Decent retention, okay lacing...

Smells like bananas, almost purely so, but I get bubblegum too. There's a hint of clove in the aroma as well, and some cola. Did I mention I love banana?

Tastes like banana and bubblegum. I can't stress enough how much banana is in this beer. On top of that though, there are also a lot of other flavors that I taste in a banana split. I get maraschino cherries, nuts, chocolate, and caramel. Wow, the taste is quite complex and awesome. Finishes up with some yeasty clove character and earth.

Mouthfeel could be a little more smooth, but the viscosity and carbonation level are great for the style.

Quite easy to drink for a 9% beer. Literally tastes like a banana split, sweet, fruity and like dessert. I didn't expect this beer to be so different, but it was, I've not had any other beer like it. Congratulations to Alesmith for that.

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Photo of HopHead84
4.17/5  rDev +3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4


Poured into my Alesmith Tenth Anniversary tulip, the beer such deep reddish brown it appears black unless you hold it to light. The liquid is topped with a creamy two finger beige head.

In the aroma I find a lightly toasted bready malt profile, with dark fruit esters redolent of plums, raisins, and grapes. There's a spicy clove character accompanying bubblegum and banana notes, as well as a dash of alcohol. A fantastic Weizenbock aroma. There's a whisper of chocolate in the distance, just a whisper.

Lightly sweet, the flavor is of bready malt with spicy notes of clove and prominent dark fruits (grapes, plums, raisins). I get some banana, yeasty notes, and a little alcohol as well. The beer has an upper medium/lower high level of carbonation and a full, creamy mouthfeel. A well made Weizenbock, as I expected. The beer tastes so good out of my rare Alesmith tulip.

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Photo of Sammy
3.93/5  rDev -3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

A bomber that I finished, and I am a fan of this style. Brown luxerious chocolate colured body, with a little white head. A little chocolate and wheat in the aroma. Average mouthfeel in density, soft on the palate. Sweetish, though not overly, a nice balance of chocolate malt, quality wheat that carried a little tangyness.

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Photo of warcox
4.18/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: Dark with a brown/ruby tint. A vigorous pour results in a light tan head of fine bubbles.

Smell: Strong wheat/ banana aroma with significant malt.

Taste: Intense Weizenbock flavor. Very prominent banana, caramel, malt, and wheat flavors with light spices.

Mouthfeel: A nice substantial full body.

Drinkability: Easy to drink, best around 55 degrees.
Odd and Ends - Very nice packaging - looks special before the bottle is even opened.

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Decadence 2009 Dunkel Weizenbock from AleSmith Brewing Company
Beer rating: 89 out of 100 with 75 ratings