Lovely, Dark And Deep | Brewery Ommegang

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Brewery Ommegang
New York, United States

Style: English Oatmeal Stout

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 5.30%

Availability: Winter

Notes / Commercial Description:
Lovely, Dark and Deep pours deep black with a tan, creamy mousse-like head. Aromas of roasted malt and coffee with cream, coupled with subtle notes of chocolate and dark fruit from Ommegang’s house yeast prevail. Flavors of rich chocolate milk, and coffee and cream are impeccably balanced with restrained sweetness and hints of roastiness. The finish is silky smooth with a medium to full body.

Brewed with a rich blend of malts including chocolate malt, midnight wheat, and flaked oats, and given a small addition of lactose, Lovely, Dark and Deep has a hint of sweetness and a smooth body. The beer is hopped with Bravo and Styrian Golding hops and Ommegang’s signature house yeast is used in both primary and secondary fermentation.

Added by superspak on 08-07-2015

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Reviews by biointen:
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4.13/5  rDev +9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

More User Reviews:
Photo of utopiajane
3.58/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

The color is a dark brown and if you will note the range in color on the srm chart for this style can go from 22 all the way to 40. I would say this one is a 36/37. Thick creamy khaki head that persists and refreshes itself with each tip. Clarity is good.

Nose is roasted grains and a rich little bit of coffee and cream. A faint light sweetness on the nose. They used lactose in this so that is cheating but it smells authentic. A little more than a low noble hop on the nose that I think is fresh and so light as to be seductive in this beer but that too deviates from style just a tad. Oats show a bit of soft breadiness and at first there is no fruitiness from malts. Then I think it's either their house yeast giving a grapey fruitiness rather than the dried dark frutiness you usually find in a very low background note in this style, or it's the bravo hops. I think it smells and tastes a bit strange. Sweet chocolate.

Smooth flavor. Roasty and rich with nothing burnt. The hops in this beer are delightful and take their place in the beer without trouncing the other flavors. They are a bright little bit of freshness. A pleasant floral from the bravo and a lightly stemmy herbal from the styrian golding. Cocoa powder that is less sweet on the palate as it is on the nose adds a bit of complexity. Slickness on the tongue and in the finish from the oats and even though they used lactose I think the sweetness is in check. A subtle bitterness from the hops and a touch of dryness from the roast finish this one creamy, full bodied, balanced and it does not linger long in the aftertaste. They used midnight wheat in this beer and that adds a bitterless, dark color to beer with hints of roast depending on how much you use. It also is said to finish exceptionally clean and I think they used it to smooth any astringency from the oats that would gather in the finish. There was none. As it warms the dark fruit starts to emerge. it is not well defined so you cant say raisin or this or that and it remains in the background. Becomes more nutty from the oats as it warms .

If I had given it a 3.5 overall you would never guess how much I liked the noble hops in this beer. I disliked the lactose but that is subjective for me as I dislike lactose in any beer and do not favor the milkstout. If they were going for a hoppier beer, they succeeded. But that strange grape taste does not thrill me so 3.5 for taste. 3.5 for the mouthfeel because you will notice a bit of roughness in the finish.

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Photo of teromous
2.94/5  rDev -22.4%
look: 5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

Appearance: Black body with a thick creamy light khaki head comprised mostly of small fine bubbles. It looks inviting.

Aroma: I get a nice coffee aroma with a bit of roasted nuts in the background. There is a slightly odd aroma that I can't quite put my finger on. Mostly it smells good though. It doesn't have an aroma that just pulls me in but again it doesn't smell bad. I get some charred popcorn in there too.

Taste: Right up front there is that charred popcorn flavor I got on the nose. If you like charred popcorn you'll probably really like this. Personally I do like the flavor but in an oatmeal stout I'm looking for more subtle and easy drinking flavors. There is some chocolate that makes it through.

Mouthfeel: This is probably the greatest downfall here. The body is medium with a slightly crisp finish...a far cry from the smooth velvety finish that is often attributed to oatmeal stouts.

Overall: I was really looking forward to a new offering from Ommegang that was a departure from the usual. I was especially excited to find out that this would be an oatmeal stout. I don't feel that my excitement has led to any lofty expectations but I do somehow feel letdown by this beer. With a name like "Lovely, Dark and Deep" I was wanting more lovely and deep and a little less "plain old dark." I won't be looking for this in the stores again. I'm actually happy that I'm finding out how this beer tastes now instead of being let down around Christmas. Average at best.

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Photo of DanGeo
3.49/5  rDev -7.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

Photo of dandaugherty1221
3.53/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Photo of AlarmClock314
3.81/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

12oz bottle, no date. Pours black with a large sized khaki colored head. Smells of light oats, roasted malt, and dark fruit. Tastes of dark fruit, malt, and some oat. High carbonation and average body for the style. Doesn't have any spices, so not sure why it's labeled as a 'Winter Ale.' Overall, it's an okay Oatmeal Stout, but could be richer.

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Photo of generallee
4.1/5  rDev +8.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of Jason
3.9/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

12oz brown bottle, sample from the brewery.

Epic lacing from a very frothy tan head, black as night. Spice, chocolate, & dried dark fruit in the nose. Deep smoothness, drying palate, fluffy moderate sized body. Big suggestions of chocolate and mild coffee, on the dry side with some spice and faint prune. Very easy to knock back, good to see this kind of departure from Ommegang but even with this beer they stay within the realm of Ommegang.

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Photo of Billolick
4.19/5  rDev +10.6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

12 oz bottle, with "Best By " dating etched onto the neck of the bottle....(date is almost 10 months away)

Pours dark and stout like. longlasting and luxorious dark mocha cap..lasts nicely..leaves low sheeting a then plenty of spotty lace.

Nice dark chocolate and malted milk nose

Flavorful and enjoyable stout with lucious notes of more dark chocolate, mocha, dark malts, deep chocolaty goodness.

Super smooth, super tasty and enjoyable....nice new wintery creation

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Photo of MrUse
3.72/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of ledouge
3.65/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Photo of JC333
3.51/5  rDev -7.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

Photo of wattoclone
4.65/5  rDev +22.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

On draft at the Blue Monkey in Merchantsville, NJ. Considering this is a low ABV stout, I was very impressed. A full flavor, rich chocolate with a milky mouthfeel. Will definitely seek this one out as a fan of the lower ABV beers. We need more flavorful dark beers like this one.

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Photo of juicebox
3.73/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.75

Photo of MattyG85
4.2/5  rDev +10.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Poured from a 12 oz. bottle into a Duvel tulip glass.

Appearance: Pours midnight black with a moderate amount of bubbles. About a finger of deep tan head that settles into a thin creamy layer.

Smell: A roasty and fairly dry dark malt driven aroma with a scent of chocolate, coffee, and spicy yeast. Dark roasted barley malt with a scent of dark chocolate, coffee, smoke, oatmeal, toast, and grains. Scent of Ommegang's house Belgian yeast with some hints of pepper. Light dark fruit hints. Subtle earthy hops. A pretty solid aroma.

Taste: Like it smells, a roasty and dry dark malt driven taste with notes of chocolate, coffee, and yeast. Dark roasted barley malt with notes of bitter dark chocolate, coffee, smoke, toast, oatmeal, and grains. Spicy Belgian yeast with notes of pepper. Subtle dark fruit notes of raisin and fig. Light earthy hop presence. A pretty nice taste.

Mouthfeel: Light to medium bodied with a fairly high level of carbonation. Creamy, fairly prickly, and smooth with a drying finish.

Overall: A solid take on an Oatmeal Stout. Nice roasty and smokey dark malt flavor.

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Photo of gunnerlincoln
4.33/5  rDev +14.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Had on tap. Pours a nice head and the notes of coffee and chocolate are present upon 1st smell. This is a wonderfully balanced oatmeal stout with no shortage of flavor. It is a bit on the thin side for a stout; a bit more body would take this brew to the next level. It was the perfect beer to compliment my pork shank and sweet potatoes. Yet another great beer Ommegang.

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Photo of chinchill
3.77/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.75

12 oz bottle with a BB date of Sept. 2016, allowed to warm to about 55F and served in a Belgian snifter.

Pours near black and opaque with a medium size frothy tan head that has good retention.

Aroma: dark spiced bread.

Flavor: spicy dark bread with toasted dark bread -- lots of dark grain flavor here. Belgian yeast is evident. Hints of faint coffee, anise and dark chocolate in the finish and aftertaste.

O: flavorful and interesting, with a very good, very smooth mouthfeel and a very slight funkiness.

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Photo of timontheroad
3.63/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.75

Very dark brown almost black opaque color. Big fluffy tan head, awesome retention and lacing. Aroma is burnt coffee, dark roast malt, and a bit of spiciness I could not place. The taste followed the smell, with the burnt coffee flavor most prominent, and just a bit of funkiness from the yeast. I didn't get any oatmeal though. The mouthfeel was pretty light, almost thin and watery for a stout. Overall, I wasn't overly impressed, Ommegang beers usually suit my tastes pretty well, this one just didn't deliver as advertised.

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Photo of alcohline_trip
3.84/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Photo of samtrillo
4/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of ONovoMexicano
3.48/5  rDev -8.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

12 ounce bottle poured into a nonic glass.

Deep dark brown color that doesn't quite reach blackness, even in the glass. Foamy, roasted oatmeal colored head that persists excellently. Heads pretty damn chewy. Hell, this looks nice. 4.5

Quite yeast-y and floral in the aroma. Not what I was expecting, but makes sense given Ommegang's wheelhouse. In the background lurks some dark chocolate and roasted malt. Very yeast forward and not particularly stout-like or oatmeal-like. 3.25

Well, it's pretty dang thin and that's the first thing you'll notice, but it does have a creamy finish like an oatmeal stout. Flavor has an almost vegetal quality that interplays with roasted malt, faint dark fruit, and faint hints of coffee. Not bad, but not particularly impressive either. Feels very run-of-the-mill other than the pronounced yeastiness. T- 3.5 M- 3.25

Ultimately the flavor grows on me and I find myself sipping away at it.

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Photo of Sammy
3.75/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of dertyd
3.57/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

Photo of NeroFiddled
4.2/5  rDev +10.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Brewery Ommegang "Lovely, Dark and Deep"
12 oz. brown glass bottle, "BEST BY 09/2016"
$2.79 @ Total Wine & More, Cherry Hill, NJ

There's a beautiful aroma to Ommegang's "Lovely, Dark and Deep". It's chocolatey and cocoa powder-ish backed by soft dark-skinned fruit. It's not overly heavy, or roasty or smoky, and it begs you to partake more through a desire to learn what's behind it, that what you already know is inside it.

The flavor follows, and although it's fuller and richer, it doesn't hit you over the head. Instead it remains soft and a bit elusive, giving you hints of added spiciness and clove-like phenols as you delve deeper into its velvety smooth mouthfeel and flavors. A soft roastiness emerges, along with a bit of dark, bittersweet chocolate... and eventually, some leafy and mildly earthy and herbaceous hops.

It's really tightly focused and balanced, and yet its components are entirely perceptible on their own: the gently dark, toasted and roasty malts, the supple raisin, apple, and fig-like fruitiness, the deft sprinkling of spice, and the underlying hops. It's drinkable because it's not obtuse or bold or full, and the clear but somewhat restrained flavors keep you on edge, always wanting more.

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Photo of UnderStageMan
4.07/5  rDev +7.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

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