Bigger And Bretter | Brewery Ommegang

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4.03/5
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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Brewery Ommegang
New York, United States
ommegang.com

Style: Bière de Garde

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 8.00%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes / Commercial Description:
A Biere de Garde with an extra layer of depth and complexity by bottle conditioning with Brettanomyces.

Added by bbtkd on 07-26-2017

BEER STATS
Ranking:
#11,023
Reviews:
11
Ratings:
29
pDev:
8.68%
Bros Score:
0
 
 
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Ratings: 29 |  Reviews: 11
Photo of JackRWatkins
3.04/5  rDev -24.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Served at cellar Temperature in a Duvel glass

A: Pours a rich, deep, amber with orange and golden hues, decently well attenuated though under attenuated for the style by my observation, with a lot of sediment, a large, frothy, three finger head.
S: Baking spices, cinnamon, bubblegum, green apple slightly, definite brett. Cinnamon and Bubblegum are the most prominent notes here. Not to style, but then again, brett.
T: Slight toasty malt, heavy cinnamon and bubblegum, with hints of apple, baking spices, definite brett, hints of apple cider vinegar.
M: Medium bodied, not overly dry.
O: I think the time has come to finally admit to myself that I don't like Brettanomyces (or at least I don't like this particular strain that seems to be the most popular), this is a heavy handed pie of a beer that to me does not represent the style particularly well, if you like brett, you'll probably like this beer, if you like traditional French Biere de Garde, then probably not. This beer lacks the graininess, mustiness, minerality (I suspect a serious difference in the water chemistry), and earthiness of the best biere de gardes that I have had

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Photo of Ryan4120
4.56/5  rDev +13.2%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

L - Light, opaque copper with a medium creamy tan head that sticks around and leaves behind a nice amount of lacing.
S - tons of yeasty bread and malt up front with sweet notes of fruit esters- slight hint of banana and apple on the nose.
T - Follows the nose with tons of yeasty, bread notes up front with a lot of malt throughout along with notes of banana, cinnamon, apples and other fruit esters, as well as a decent amount of funk from the Brett. Earth, phenol, and floral notes throughout.
F - medium to full bodied with a moderate amount of carbonation. Creamy, smooth with a lot of microbubbles.
O - An incredibly complex but rewarding biere de garde that's well worth a try! Ommegang never ceases to put out some pretty stellar Belgian ales.

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Photo of MrOH
4.17/5  rDev +3.5%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Warm orange-burnished gold. Kinda hazy. Dense, thick off-white head, great retention and lace.
Aromas of sour cherry, cinnamon, toasted pastry.
Malty with some leather, cinnamon, a bit of sour cherry, some barnyard. Lingering, doughy finish.
Heftier than I would have thought. Well carbonated.
Pretty decent. Would be better in the fall.

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Photo of sparx1100
3.79/5  rDev -6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of Gkruszewski
4.09/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of morrowd3
4/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of krome
3.75/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of ajm5108
4.19/5  rDev +4%
look: 5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Vintage optics - copper gold, fluffy head, vibrant carbonation. Aroma features classic Brett characteristics - musty loam, a tinge of lemon - but has some malt notes underneath that give it a pie crust quality as well. The Brett isn’t quite as noticeable on the tongue - it adds a nice dimension but isn’t overwhelming. The biere de garde beer underneath is fine but on the bland side - you get a basic malt bready flavor, very light phenol , ommegang’s house yeast. It works but leaves you wanting a little more depth. It also finishes pretty heavy for a Brett beer, I prefer mine crisp & dry. Overall still a good beer.

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Photo of Birdlegs
3.85/5  rDev -4.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of J-Rye
4.97/5  rDev +23.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

IMHO, the best Ommegang has ever put out, though I may be biased due to my penchant for loving bière de gardes. In any case, the incredibly smooth beer had banana esters on the nose, notes of cinnamon and proportionate Brett funk on the taste, with a soft, frothy, mouthfeel. An outstanding beer.

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Photo of tdm168
3.99/5  rDev -1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Photo of Vylo
4.24/5  rDev +5.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of Zazzi82
4.06/5  rDev +0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of DoubleMalt
4.07/5  rDev +1%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Photo of gr0g
3.9/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of goopy
4.02/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of rajendra82
3.77/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

From the classy looking bomber, the beer poured cloudy golden in color, with a steady stream of fine bubbles feeding a three finger thick head. The aroma was bready with overtones of peach. The brett funk was lurking in the background in the smell. The taste was not a complex as I expected. The first impression was that of sweetness from pale malt and candi sugar, which was supplemented by a spicy phenols supplied by the yeast. The ingredients for a great beer were all here, but unfortunately it felt a little watered down and simplified. There was also hardly any brett funk in the flavor, which was sad considering the name. It was easy to enjoy, but not quite approaching greatness.

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Photo of Billolick
4.33/5  rDev +7.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Large bottle, caged and corked

Opens with a moderate amount of pressure released, pours a bit more then moderately hazed, chestnut brown and glowing, typical voluminous Belgian inspired head, fading to a fine bubble film, collar and leaving moderate low banded lacing.

On the nose its apples, yeasty funk and caramel.

On the palate, more yeasty goodness, more biting fall fruit esters and earthy spicing, candi apple, with the Brett adding to the intrigue....delicious, complex and well worth seeking out...more high quality Belgian inspired brew from Omme

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Photo of DBosco
3.53/5  rDev -12.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Corked 750ml bottle, pours dense opaque copper orange, a small head, with floating flecks of yeast. Not much to smell, just some mild funk. Taste is a little funky saison, fairly bland. Mouthfeel is OK, good balance of carbonation and crispness. Overall, this is not as good as I hoped for and was overpriced.

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Photo of bb-magic
4.1/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Photo of StonedTrippin
4.25/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

of course they nailed this one! this is just what they do, and the recent handful of brett beers they have put out have been incredible. this is super classic, could easily have come from any of the highly regarded old world producers. an excellent take on this style, light caramel in color with a huge puffy white head on it, looks quintessentially belgian, and a has a lovely light bretty funk to the nose, along with the classic ommegang belgian strain, spicy and autumnal to me right away. the malt base is substantial, and even though its dry in the end, has some hearty bready sweetness in the middle, with some nuttiness and the rich spiciness of the yeast is perfect with it. light orange, raisin, clove, anise, and pepper, along with the mature and vibrant brett strain they used. so effervescent and lively in the feel, but not so much that you cant appreciate the malt body. biscuit and honey notes, autumn spices from the yeast, and the bretty wildness in conjunction with it. just an awesome beer, and the reason ommegang is one of my favorites, the quality here is just through the roof. seems like nobody is paying any attention to these guys anymore... how is that possible with beer this good?

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Photo of Daniellobo
4.05/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Photo of VeganUndead
4.35/5  rDev +7.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Photo of brentk56
4.08/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Appearance: Ommegang is the master of the Belgian look so it is no surprise that this beer is a great looker - cloudy and amber colored, verging on burnt orange, the head is massive, with a full three fingers; soapy splotches of lacing linger

Smell: Spice cake, stone fruit, honey, grass and herbal tones

Taste: Honeyed spice cake forward, with clove and nutmeg prominent; apple, pear and peach flavors underpin; the combined effect is herbal with caramel tones; through the middle, there is some leathery funk, but the finish is grassy, herbal and sweet, with a strong presence from the yeast

Mouthfeel: Medium bodied with effervescent carbonation

Overall: I remember a time when the Belgian styles created much more buzz around here, but the IPAs, barrel-aged stouts and fruited sours have pushed them aside; Ommegang knows these styles and this is a fine example

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Photo of superspak
4.25/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

750 ml bottle into signature tulip glass, bottled on 3/27/2017. Pours moderately hazy/cloudy deep golden amber/light orange color with a 2 finger fairly dense and fluffy off white head with great retention, that reduces to a nice cap that lingers. Nice spotty soapy lacing clings around the glass, with a moderate amount of streaming carbonation retaining the cap. Aromas of big lemon, orange, peach, apricot, pineapple, pear, mango, melon, red apple, hay, straw, herbal, floral, grass, honey, and toasted biscuit; with lighter notes of pepper, nuttiness, caramel, mild funk, and yeast/toasted earthiness. Damn nice aromas with great balance and complexity of fruity/earthy/light spicy yeast, bready malt, and light earthy hop notes; with great strength. Taste of big lemon, orange, peach, apricot, pineapple, pear, mango, melon, red apple, hay, straw, herbal, floral, grass, honey, and toasted biscuit; with lighter notes of pepper, nuttiness, caramel, mild funk, and yeast/toasted earthiness. Light herbal/grassy hop bitterness and yeast spiciness on the finish. Lingering notes of lemon, orange, peach, apricot, pineapple, pear, mango, melon, red apple, hay, straw, herbal, floral, grass, honey, toasted biscuit, light pepper, and yeast/toasted earthiness on the finish for a good bit. Fantastic complexity, robustness, and balance of fruity/earthy/light spicy yeast, bready malt, and light earthy hop flavors; with a great malt/bitter/spiciness balance, and zero cloying flavors after the finish. Slightly increasing dryness from bitter/spiciness and carbonation. Medium-high carbonation and medium body; with a very smooth, creamy/bready/grainy, and lightly sticky balanced mouthfeel that is awesome. Zero warming alcohol for 7.6%. Overall this is a fantastic Bier de Garde! All around outstanding complexity, robustness, and balance of fruity/earthy/light spicy yeast, bready malt, and light earthy hop flavors; very smooth and refreshing to drink with the mildly bitter/spicy/drying finish. Nice levels of Brett C. complexity going on; with perfectly balanced Belgian house yeast and biscuity malt sweetness. One of the best true classic tasting Biere de Garde’s I’ve had. A highly enjoyable offering.

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