Cup O Kyndnes | Brewery Ommegang

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Brewery Ommegang
New York, United States

Style: Scottish Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 6.60%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes / Commercial Description:
The Belgian-Scotch brewing connection dates to WWI, when thousands of Scotsmen spent years in Belgium. To satisfy the new customers, Belgian brewers learned to brew lighter "Scotch" style ales. This fine Ommegang ale uses heather tips and a wee bit of smoked malt to bring the taste and aroma of Scotland to the forefront. "Malty, full body, dark, slightly smoky, with heather notes. Flavorful and aromatic, with a gentle complexity and easy-going finish."

Added by akorsak on 08-05-2009

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Ratings: 241 |  Reviews: 169
Reviews by whoneeds8:
Photo of whoneeds8
4.15/5  rDev +8.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured into a Ommegang chalice a deep semiopaque ruby with a two finger off white head. Decent lacing down the glass. It's allergy season, so I can't get anything from my nose. The taste was a vigirous amount of carmeled malts with smoked earthy notes. And then the wild yeast kicks in. It's medium bodied and leaves a rather dry finish. This is an interesting belgian take on a scottish ale made in the US. When you put it like that, it's exactly how it tastes.

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Photo of oberon
3.88/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into my Isle of Arran glass a deep mahagony brown with a fluffy one finger off white head,aromas of Belgian yeast (most know what that is),slight smoked meat,and brown sugar.Flavors start out somewhat dry in its herbalness and light smoke,the dark fruit and sweetish alcohol comes late and into the finish.A mix of Belgian yeast and Scottish peat maltines,not overly sweet or herbal,pretty darn good.

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Photo of RoyalT
2.95/5  rDev -22.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Appearance – This is brown with orangish highlights around the edges and a soft, creamy, modest head.

Smell – There is a touch of scotch to this nose along with some wood and a hint of smokiness. I get some fruits, maybe mashed prunes, and a big raw sugar aroma. This is a sweet one.

Taste – The smoke is a bit bigger at the taste. It’s not overpowering but if you don’t like smoky beer don’t buy this. The sugar turns to candy and somehow there’s a zing of alcohol.

Mouthfeel – This doesn’t rate medium-bodied and is a bit on the watery side.

Drinkability – I love this brewery but am unsure as to what they were trying to accomplish here. Is this supposed to be a light, easy-drinking Scottish Ale? Then how about smoothing things out and lose the smoke. This isn’t a bad beer, just confusing.

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Photo of wesbrownyeah
3.8/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Ommegang Cup O Kyndnes Scottish style ale at 6.6% alcohol. Brewed with Heather.

A- Pours a rich brown fluid that sparks a light tan head that falls to a creamy froth leaving spotty lacing.

S- Smell is of burnt malts and sweet oak, faint belgian yeast scents are noted.

T-M- Taste is a sweet yeasty mixture of dark toasted malts, creamy coffee, plums and a Belgian yeast strain coming in at the end. Mouthfeel is smooth and creamy with medium body and slightly slick on the tongue.

D- A overall good beer but one that boast only light showings of the brews actual title of a Scottish ale. I'd drink again but only to share the beer with someone.

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Photo of SIRIUS2
3.44/5  rDev -9.7%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a bottle into a pint glass. Initial pour is basic brown with a touch of red or amber mixed in. The brew is not clear, but it's hard to tell if it's hazy or just really dark. The foam that rises to the top is pretty light; sort of a a stack of off-white bubbles as opposed to a foamy head. Lacing is extremely light.

Big time roasty malts on the nose and not much else. It's a pleasant sort of aroma, not overbearing but certainly not very diverse.

Taste very much mirrors the smell. Fairly sweet and malty, mostly characteristic of the style, but there isn't much of that 'peat' flavor on the back side. Nothing in the way of smoke either. The malt is typical and seems to go well with rest of the brew but it is definitely the star of the brew.

Overall I did enjoy the brew. I might have had my standards set a bit high because of the quality that I have come to expect from Ommegang. The obvious Belgian yeast in this brew was interesting but almost served as a distraction from the style. It was good, don't get me wrong, but I think I prefer the traditional Scottish ale to this one.

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Photo of lordofthewiens
3.65/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A Belgian style Scotch ale sounds like an oxymoron. I think this one is.
In a pint glass the beer was a red amber color with a golden tan head.
Aroma of spice, honey/caramel, and tobacco.
Caramel taste, nutmeg, alcohol, a bit of hops. Not overwhelming.
Fairly sharp mouthfeel.
Good enough beer, not one I'd want a lot of.

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Photo of warnerry
3.53/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A - Pours a clear red-tinged brown with tow fingers of thick, creamy head. Leaves a nice trail of lacing behind.

S - Aroma is slightly spicy smelling malts. I guess it is some heather I am smelling. There is also a subtle sweetness in the smell.

T - Malt character is actually somewhat light for a Scotch ale. There is abundant earthy bitterness that is balanced by a brightness from the spicing. Hops become more apparent on the finish. Finishes with a lingering earthiness.

M - Medium mouthfeel with lingering earthy dryness.

O - I did enjoy this, but the earthy taste became overwhelming after awhile. Even with the moderate abv, best to split this a few ways.

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Photo of generallee
4.53/5  rDev +18.9%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Presentation: It was poured from a brown 750ml corked and caged bottle into a tulip glass. The label has a nice description but with no abv%. There is also a freshness date printed on the glass. ("PKG ON 08/10/10" and "BEST BY 08/2012")

Appearance: It looks dark in the glass and has a garnet red hue when held up to the light. This is capped off by a two to three finger head which has excellent retention. A small light tan layer of foam hangs on till the last sip. As I take each sip the head coats the glass with film of slick bubbles which brakes up and leaves cool lace patterns on the glass.

Smell: I get a lot of the smoked malt right up front with some mild fruity malt notes and classic Ommegang yeast notes underneath. Way off in the distance is a very faint hint of heather.

Taste/Palate: The flavor has a sweet malty character up front with fruity and yeasty notes. This is backed up with very firm smoky malt which covers up the light floral heather notes. Hops are distant and offer only light leafy herbal notes with light hop bitterness. This all comes by way of a smooth softly carbonated palate with a medium to full body.

Notes: When I think of Scottish Ales I think of smoky malts with rich complex sweetness and this one brings it! For me though, the heather was a bit distant but overall I enjoyed this lovely ale more than just a wee bit.

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Photo of TimoP
4/5  rDev +5%

Photo of jisom123
3/5  rDev -21.3%

Photo of merlin48
4.13/5  rDev +8.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Corked and caged bottle pours a slightly hazed ruby chestnut body with a medium sized tan head that is thick and pillowy. Good retention and some lavish lacing in sheets and spiderwebs.

Aroma has some dark fruit esters from the Belgian yeast, molasses, herbal hops, and a hint of smoke.

Solid medium body has an appropriately subtle carbonation.

Taste has a toffee/molasses malty base accented by a hint of dark fruits, Belgian yeast, floral/herbal hops, and a prominent earthy smokiness that is much more evident in the taste than the aroma.

Tasty and very drinkable. Nice to see Ommegang do such a fine job with this style.

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Photo of Billolick
3.78/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Omme bomber, caged and corked, $11.99 @ DeCicco's in Ardsley, NY.
Pour is darkest shades of amber, thick and frothy mocha head, reaches high, then falls to a nice film and leaves nice looking bands of thicker lacing.
Malted up nose, with a hint of mushroomy earthiness.
Malty and pleasing Scottish ale. Nutty, maple infused, more malt.
Decent take on the style, that doesn't really do a great deal for me. Respectable, quality, drinkable and all that, but not likely I'll be drinking too many more bottle of this stuff

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Photo of tigg924
4.3/5  rDev +12.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Appearance: 1/3 inch head, hazy, orange-brown in color, medium-high carbonation

Smell: peat, flowers, toasted malt, and small smokiness

Taste: caramel especially up front, big smoked wood, and peat.

Mouthfeel: medium-heavy bodied, smoky and sweet, moderate-high carbonation

Drinkability: There are some heavy smoke beer flavors going on here. An excellent beer, this rivals AleSmith as one of my favorite bombers in the style. An excellent and multi-layered beer, I am glad I have more than one bomber.

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Photo of Mora2000
4/5  rDev +5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Glad to see this beer in DFW.

The beer pours a medium, slightly hazy brown color with a tan head. The aroma is very nice. I get some notes of dark fruit and caramel, as well as some alcohol - which is a bit surprising since this beer is only 6.6 percent.

The taste is more of the same, with a few welcome additions. I get some more dark fruit and caramel, but I also get some peet-smoked malt. The alcohol is present again in the flavor.

Medium mouthfeel and medium carbonation.

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Photo of glid02
3.98/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

On-tap at the Porter Beer Bar in Atlanta.

Pours one shade from black with a half-finger tan head. The head recedes into a wispy layer on top leaving solid lacing.

Smells of faint dark malts with equal amounts of roasted and toasted malt flavors. Also present are very slight amounts of brown sugar and smoke.

Tastes very interesting. The first thing that comes to mind throughout the sip is burnt marshmallows. Moderately sweet roasted malt flavors with solid amounts of even sweeter toastiness kick things off and are joined almost immediately by smoke and what can only be described as marshmallows. The sweetness fades out a bit midway through the sip, allowing the mild burnt malt flavors and very slight hints of dark chocolate to carry through to a moderately bitter ending.

Mouthfeel is good. It's got a nice thickness with active carbonation.

Drinkability is OK. I finished my glass without a problem however I'm not sure about another.

Overall I wasn't expecting much from this beer given the aroma but the flavor profile is as unique as they come. Not a beer I could drink a lot of but it's well worth a shot.

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Photo of rhoadsrage
3.58/5  rDev -6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

(Served in a dimple mug)

A- This beer has a hazy pecan brown body with a sea of microbubbles pushing to the surface with a slightly sticky light tan meniscus of foam.

S- The pot caramel melanoidin aroma with nougat notes has some peat smoke hints in the finish.

T- The slightly bright tartness has a tang to it that blends with pot caramel and dry toffee and cardboard hints. There is a watery taste that grows as the beer warms and the finish has a smoky band-aid hint in the background that hangs on after each sip.

M- This beer has a medium mouthfeel with a full texture on the tongue and no alcohol heat.

O- The tangy flavor and malt with peat and band-aids is a bit off putting and the malt is nice full but a bit too dry to really show of the malt flavor.

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Photo of Sammy
3.68/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Enjoyable for the style, and a great history of Belgian Scottish style. What the Scots brewed in Belgium.The yeast hlps. Mahogoney with off-white bubbly head that's big. Some smoke in the aroma, its electrical fire smoke. An easy mouthfeel, easy drinking. Understated yeast.

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Photo of zaphodchak
3.73/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

1 finger off-white head, dark hazy ruddy amber body. Retains and laces decently.

Slightly musty nose, some dark funk which seemed misplaced.

Apple, perhaps pear, with some scotchy malt but unexpectedly tart for a Scotch style. Some white grape. Some honey?

Average mouthfeel, undercarbonated.

Decent, but not great.

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Photo of henrisimo
3.25/5  rDev -14.7%

Photo of cjgator3
3.7/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

750ml bottle

A- Corked and caged 750ml bottle. Pours a dark brownish color with a light tan head with good lacing and retention.

S- The aroma is nice and malty with some caramel, spices, hints of dark fruits and a Belgian yeast strain. 

T- The taste like the aroma is deliciously malty up front with some caramel and spices with a yeasty finish. 

M- The mouthfeel is light to medium bodied with a good amount of carbonation.

D- Overall, I enjoyed this beer. It has some nice mixture Scotch Ale characteristics with a Belgian twist. Worth a try!

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Photo of prototypic
3.43/5  rDev -10%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Cup o' Kyndness pours a darker copper color. It's very clear, and has a strong garnet look with backlighting. It's topped with a light tan head that rises to nearly two fingers in height. It's slow to recede and leaves a moderate amount of sticky lace on the glass.

The nose is nothing short of interesting. It's a little on the weak side, but isn't bad. It kicks off with an interesting smoky, malty scent. The malts smell mostly caramel, but it's not very sweet smelling. Belgian yeast is noted. It smells alright, but seems a little at odds with the smoky scent. There's a hint of a spicy scent late. It's not bad, but doesn't add much. Alcohol is not much of a factor at all.

The flavor is about on-par with the nose. It does have a sturdy caramel malt base. It's a little sweet, but most of the sweetness is blunted by a strong smoky flavor. Belgian yeast is a little noticeable, but is also somewhat disguised. I don't mind the smoky flavor, but it doesn't seem to gel well with Belgian yeast. It's slightly herbal and leathery at the secondary level. Alcohol is virtually buried, and isn't noticeable at all. It finishes smoky.

Cup o' Kyndness has a body that's on the lighter side of medium. Carbonation is active, but isn't distracting. It needs a little more body to feel smooth, but it doesn't have a bad feel. Drinkability is somewhat average. The flavor's alright, but it grows tiresome. Finishing off an entire 750 will be a chore.

Brewery Ommegang has done a really nice job with some of its recent releases. Cup o' Kyndness is probably my least favorite of the bunch. The smoky flavor is just a little too strong, and seems a little weird playing off Belgian yeast. Just my take. The nose could use a little muscle. More body would be good. Eh. It's just alright. Worth a try? Yeah, if you're into smoky beer.

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Photo of tempest
4/5  rDev +5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Picked up a large bottle from Abe's Cold Beer for about $11. It poured with a big tan head and a spicy chocolate aroma. There's a big dry, hoppy kick, surprisingly bitter for anything Belgian or Scottish. As it warms, more flavor rolls in with sweet cherry and leather over herbal spice and citrus rind. Overall a tasty and interesting beer. Check it out.

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Photo of shoky01
5/5  rDev +31.2%

Photo of Ralphs66
4/5  rDev +5%

Photo of Vonerichs
3.8/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The body is dark brown with a red hue around the edges. It was poured into a tulip and had a generous, fluffy, off-white head.

The smell has a smokey backbone to it. You can also smell the caramel-like sweetness that is indicative of the style.

The smokey peat lightens up in the taste. It has a surprisingly bitter finish to it that I don't normally taste in a scotch ale, nor to I like it.

Mouthfeel is creamy and heavy.

Good drinkability. It was an enjoyable beer and, aside from the bitterness, is what one would expect from a scotch ale. The low abv makes it easy to drink.

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