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BA SCORE
3.83/5
Very Good
320 Ratings
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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Brewery Ommegang
New York, United States
ommegang.com

Style: Flanders Oud Bruin

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 6.00%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
A beautifully made, carefully blended, and well-aged sour beer, (it is aged on cherries) made in collaboration with Brouwerij Liefmans of Belgium. Ommegang brewmaster Phil Leinhart went to the Liefmans brewery in Oudenaarde, Belgium, and worked side by side with their master blender to create a distinctive beer unlike any other. Complex, lightly malty, tart, ruby color, with just a touch of hops. (Zuur means "sour "in Dutch).

Added by drabmuh on 06-06-2010

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

BEER STATS
Ranking:
-
Reviews:
212
Ratings:
320
pDev:
13.84%
Bros Score:
0
 
 
Wants:
30
Gots:
25
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Photo of Thorpe429
3.23/5  rDev -15.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Reviewed from notes. Pours a murky brown color with a bit of a reddish tint. Light tan head sits for a bit before fading. The nose is pretty boring with some very mild fruit and oak plus a good dose of acetic acid, though not enough to take it into the nail polish realm. The flavor goes more in the acetone direction, though it's not horrible. Some light bready notes and mild cherry. Feel is fairly sour and medium bodied. Decent enough, but I wasn't a huge fan.

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Photo of wethorseblanket
3.85/5  rDev +0.5%

Photo of ChainGangGuy
3.78/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

11 ounce goblet - $8.75 at Taco Mac (Prado) in Atlanta, Georgia.

Appearance: Served up a very dark brown body, garnet at the far edges, and with no head, just a very thin, ivory-colored ring.

Smell: A first noted whiff of cola, sour cherry cola, to be a bit more precise, then notes of berry-accented wine, spice, toasted bread, and, as it warms, a hint of caramel.

Taste: Opens with a tartish sip of cherry-flavored cola, with a very faint toasted bread hint, and very, very faint roastiness. As it warms, a small bit of caramel is detected. Continued sour cherry character. Moderately acidic. Some papery traces. Light, spicy phenols scattered around. Thinning, watered down sour cherry cola on the finish.

Mouthfeel: Medium-thin body. Low carbonation.

Overall: It's fine, I suppose, kinda light though, and reminded me a bit like a lighter, less interesting La Folie.

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Photo of duceswild
3/5  rDev -21.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Photo of mdfb79
3.73/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Had at a local DC tasting thanks to jslot38. Thanks man.

a - Pours a murky mahogany brown color with one inch of white head and light carbonation evident.

s - Smells of sour fruit, dark fruits, a bit metallic.

t - Tastes of sour and tart fruits, grapes, dark fruits, cherries.

m - Medium body and high carbonation.

d - A decent Flanders style beer. Some nice sour and tart fruit in the smell and taste. Would give another shot.

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Photo of mdaschaf
3.97/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to THECPJ for the share. Review from notes 11/20/10.

A: Beer is a dark brown with an off white head, about 1.5 fingers in height. Dissipated to a thin layer of bubbles on top.

S: Very sweet, overwhelming aroma of sour cherries.

T: Very sour and tart. The cherry flavor is really nice. There is also a little bit of oak and a slight malt backbone.

M/D: Light bodied with high carbonation, but seems to fit the style nicely. Very drinkable, overall I really enjoyed it. My first in the style and I look forward to trying another so that I can have something to compare this to.

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Photo of mikesgroove
3.97/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

mahogany in color with an impenetrable from light consistency to it. No head at all though, which kind of shocked me to be honest, but still good color for the style.

The aroma was deeply sour, with tons of apple vinegar like aroma to it. Richly funky this one was one crazy ass smelling beer. As it warmed I started to pick up some nice notes of caramel, some nice dark fruit notes and a slight hint of some earthy malts, but all layered underneath and incredible layer of deep funk. The flavor started out the same way, almost lip puckering strong notes of vinegar, followed by some nice tart fruits that just layered and stay upon the tongue. Some nice, dark earthy flavor then upon that. Really rich and complex. The finish was just as tart, drying out the palate and really just letting the rich flavor peak through your tongue and last long with an almost sour cherry like finish

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Photo of rab53
4/5  rDev +4.4%

Photo of womencantsail
1.74/5  rDev -54.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 1

A: The pour is a dark red-brown color with a medium sized off-white/khaki colored head.

S: A bit of cherry, a bit of vinegar, not really any oak. The cherry aromas are mostly artificial, in the vain of cough syrup, and quite off-putting. There isn't much intensity to the nose, but what is there isn't good.

T: Bleck, the flavor is even worse (somehow). Mildly sweet and mildly tart but nothing positive at all. Maybe some more of the fake cherries and red wine vinegar, along with a tinge of metal.

M: The body is somewhat watery and light with a very high level of carbonation.

D: This was just terrible. I want my $12 back.

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Photo of stakem
4.08/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Review from notes taken on 8/13/10.

Poured from a corked and caged 750ml into a couple of pint glasses. This brew appears a hazed amber brown color with a creamy offwhite head that is khaki in color. Spots and leggy amounts of lace cling to the glass.

The aroma of this brew has a mellow mixed fruitiness and some sour suggstions reminescent of Brett. Light notes of vinegar are evident as well.

The taste is tart with an acidity like vinegar upfront. The aftertaste suggests a bit of cherry fruitiness like cherry pits that is not medicinal. There is a dry and light puckering quality about this beer. Once the beer gets to room temperature the flavor changes a bit to include more fruit notes but this time it is more like a mild pear or apple skin flavor.

Medium to light in the feel with a modest level of carbonation. As it warms a grainy malt sweetness comes out and lingers meshing well with the other flavors. This is a beer I would have again.

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Photo of TMoney2591
4/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Served in a tulip glass at ChurchKey.

The CK never fails to disappoint with its offerings. This one pours a hazy, deep ruby-brown topped by a finger of ecru micro-foam. The nose comprises sour cherries, toasted caramel, sour grapes, candi sugar, and a smidge of orange (which, arguably, is better than a smidge o' purple). The taste holds a lighter version of those sour cherries, some buttery toffee, white grapes, figs, and green apples. The body is a light medium, with a moderate carbonation and a somewhat sticky feel. Not bad at all, not surprising from the boys over at Ommegang.

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Photo of WVbeergeek
4.8/5  rDev +25.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

I pulled out my Liefman's Goudenband chalice for this Sour Brown ale with cherries from Coopersown. Appears a deep mahogany ruddy brown body with a light khaki tan head. Aroma is full of tart cherry, green apple acidity. Hints of barrel aging with add to the complex sour brown ale, very pleasant. Flavors meld nicely, semi sweet cherry/apple fruit notes finish tart puckering dry with barrel aging effects. Excellent balance, fruit notes, esters and tartness makes this brew. Mouthfeel is nice it coats the entire palate, leaves a dry puckering finish but doesn't overkill the sour ale aspect. Carbonation is natural soft effervescent bottle conditioned, true to style as it gets from an American Belgian style brewer. Drinkability was great easy to session with, the sour tartness doesn't over do it this one acheives great balance and actually has a refreshing quality about it.

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Photo of a77cj7
3.75/5  rDev -2.1%

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3.75/5  rDev -2.1%

Photo of feloniousmonk
4.07/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured into an Ommegang chalice, but only because I can't find my Liefmans glass.

Dark plummy brown, more crimson at the highlights, under a creamy beige cap. Looks wonderful.

Aroma: sour dark fruit takes charge, cherries, plum, raisin, fig, deep, ripe and funky. Doesn't develop further, but very beautiful and engaging right on the face of it. Very potent sour fruit feeling.

Taste: sour, fruity, tannin-y, tactile, and much cleaner and smoother than I'd suspect. This is to Zuur's detriment, for it lacks the bite that would make it great. Nice sour grasp of the palate right off, then it fades with a quickness. Makes it much more easy to drink, but also makes it lack some character.

Fresh and vibrant, tasty and quenching, but not anywhere near as good as we'd like it to be. Is it compromised? I don't think so, but, somehow, it just doesn't reach the heights we want it to. Need a little more OOMPH, as they say, though I can't tell you how it would get that. More time in the wood? More fruit?
Whatever it may be, ...oh, what am I blathering about, it's a fine oud bruin...so, it's not "Ommegang Rouge"...nothing else is...life goes on...alas...

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Photo of epyon396
3.78/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of Gobzilla
4.2/5  rDev +9.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: poured a reddish brown in color with pinkish highlights when held up to the light that had a nice finger of head and good retention leaving a little bubbly lacing sticking to the glass.

S: it had a lovely bouquet of cherries and vinegar alongside oaky, acidic, mild brown sugar, and slight vanilla notes. I was able to detect some citrus and faint dark fruits.

T: the taste had lots of cherry fruit character as well but had some vinous notes with mild vinegar, bretty, oaky accents and tart acidic notes.

M: the brew was medium to full in body with a pleseant amount of prickly carbonation which had a sweet, oaky, vinous, and tart finish.

D: I thought it was a great tasty flanders and had all the characteristics it should for the style; it drank real good too.

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Photo of drabmuh
4.15/5  rDev +8.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

From the label "Ale with Cherries Added" and "Zuur - or Sour - is our collaborative Flemish sour brown ale, a beer whose style arises from the mists of brewing history. It uses mixed culture fermentation, real fruit, ageing, and master blending. All of these are ancient and revered Belgian techniques. This unique Flemish sour brown ale is complex, tart with a touch of sweetness, lightly malty and gently hopped. Zuur is a unique blend created in collaboration between Brewery Ommegang and Broweij Liefmans"

Right place at the right time I suppose. Beer is brown and hazy. No real head, no lacing and carbonation appears low. Its a flemish brown and it looks like it.

Beer smells mildly sour with a good acetic backbone and some sweetness, smell pretty good.

Beer is medium to light in body. Sour with a mild acetic note and mild lactic notes. Its cleansing and the palate is nice and good. Its pretty nice overall. Excited to see if this will age well or if this will even be in this market.

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Photo of tempest
3.63/5  rDev -5.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

I had a glass at Deep Ellum with a pretzel and mustard. This was a relatively drinkable sour brown, but that also means it's not as sour as most for the style. The beer has an initially sweet juicy flavor with smooth sour funk following. This might be a better sour brown for beginners and a good candidate for aging. This beer needs the find the depth that sours are known for.

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Photo of flagmantho
3.97/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from 750mL bottle into a tulip.

Appearance: rich amber-brown hue with ruby highlights when held up to the light. Head pours a thick finger of creamy tan foam but retention isn't that good.

Smell: nice malty aroma with plenty of tartness. Malt has a strong caramel character along with a bright fruitiness which works well with the tart. I like it.

Taste: tastes like a sour amber ale. The malt is caramelly but the tartness is big and forgiving; I like this quite well. There's a bit of an aftertaste/after-aroma which reminds me of a fruity kids' breakfast cereal -- which, oddly, works for me.

Mouthfeel: medium-light body with a big carbonation and decent creaminess. I like it.

Overall: this is a satisfying Oud Bruin for me. Sure, it's a bit on the candy-sweet side, but it's big and tart like it ought to be and there is a nice maltiness in the back. Good stuff!

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Photo of avalon07
4.05/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A: Poured from a bottle to a goblet. Had a brown color with some ruby tints. There was an inch and a half of foamy somewhat long-lasting head. Average lacing.

S: A nice smell of cherries, malt, yeast, and some spices.

T: A well-rounded flavor of cherries, malt, and yeast, though this component isn't as prevalent as in others of the style. Not quite as sharp as other Flanders Oud Bruin, but still pretty tasty.

M: A highly carbonated beer with a smooth finish. Medium-bodied.

D: A solid, well made, drinkable beer.

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5/5  rDev +30.5%

Photo of spinrsx
3.5/5  rDev -8.6%

Photo of ShanePB
3.58/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

750 ml corked and caged bottle courtesy of jpmclaug. I split the bottle with Nick during a filming of a video review episode for our website. Poured into two globe glasses.

A: Medium to dark brown body with a fairly tan colored head, bubbly and sudsy. As Nick described it, it sort of looks like cola in the glass complete with carbonation bubbles clinging to the glass walls and all. Not a bad looking beer for the style but very murky and almost lifeless.

S: Immediately I noticed an off funky note that seemed to overwhelm the rest of the aromas. An obvious and substantial malt base is present. Dark sweeter and sour fruits come through a bit, red grapes and prunes. Unfortunately, it's nothing inviting and something seemed a bit odd to me.

T: A big pucker, tart and sourness blasts the palate initially though it's quickly smoothed out by the underlying malt backbone this beer needs. More dark fruits like red grapes and black cherries come through towards the end. It leaves with a sweetness on the palate and completely forgets about the sour and funk.

M: Very lively carbonation, bubbly and prickly while still remaining medium bodied. The finish leaves a slick and soda like finish but doesn't have any off flavors or residual stickiness you might expect.

Zuur definitely did not meet or deliver my expectations I had for this beer going into it. That's not to say this isn't a good beer as it is, but there needs to be some fine tuning to turn this into a highly drinkable Oud Bruin. In comparison to others I've sampled, I fit this towards the middle of the pack.

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Photo of petermethot
3.75/5  rDev -2.1%

Ommegang / Liefmans - Zuur from Brewery Ommegang
Beer rating: 3.83 out of 5 with 320 ratings