Crime | Arrogant Consortia

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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Arrogant Consortia
California, United States
arrogantconsortia.com

Style: Chile Beer

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 9.60%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
A habitual offender returns
This beer is the result of what many beer enthusiasts would consider a most egregious crime―sequestering Arrogant Bastard Ale, Double Bastard Ale and OAKED Arrogant Bastard Ale in Kentucky bourbon barrels, then blending them together with chile peppers. This new version of Crime is still very hoppy in spite of the barrel aging, with lots of oak and malt. The long finish reveals layers of oak, vanilla, bourbon, and malt that combine to produce complex caramel flavors, with peppers adding pleasant tamarind, subtle tropical fruit flavors and a milder heat than in previous concoctions.

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pDev:
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Photo of Snowcrash000
4.35/5  rDev +45.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Pours a cloudy deep, dark amber coloration with a large, creamy head. Smells of bready, caramel malt, red/dark fruits, citrus and pine, with just a hint of chili peppers. Taste is dominated by caramel malt, toffee, red/dark fruit: redcurrant, plum, fig and an intense, but not overbearing chili heat, as well as lighter notes of citrus fruit: grapefruit and pine, with just a hint of vanilla and and a certain earthy oak note. Finishes with a medium bitterness and some toffee and red/dark fruit lingering in the aftertaste, as well as a strong chili heat lingering on the tongue for quite a while. Full mouthfeel with a rich body and medium carbonation. I don't know if the chili has mellowed this much over 3 years or if people are just a bunch of ninnies, but this is exactly what I expected from this brew and I was not disappointed. I was was actually quite surprised by how much citrus/pine is left in this after those 3 years, but the malt and chili heat clearly dominates, with the hops providing a good balance. There are some hints of bourbon, vanilla and oak to this as well, but they could actually be a little more pronounced. Fantastic brew that does exactly what it says on the tin. As a German maker of sharp eucalyptus candies puts it: If it's too hot, you are too weak. Arrogant Consortia couldn't have put it better themselves.

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Photo of LifesAnesthesia
3.67/5  rDev +22.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Aged 3 years from purchase in 2015:
L - Opaque brown with reddish and copper hues with a small thin tan head that sticks around and leaves some lacing behind.
S - hops, malt, caramel, peppery, bready yeast
T - Follows the nose and incredibly complex: with bitter hops up front, followed by bready yeast, dark fruits, caramel, notes of earth, tons of pepper, and some notes of oak and bourbon.
F - Medium to full bodied with a light to moderate amount of carbonation. Smooth yet crisp. There's a nice mouth, lips, and throat tingle from the peppers.
O - I'll start off by saying this is a pretty decent pepper ale - I've had better, but overall this one isn't too bad. At the same time, this is my least favorite from Arrogant Bastard. The ale is complex with a good flavor (thanks to the wonderful flavor profile of the arrogant bastard line), but I'm not sure the peppers go so well with the flavor profile. It's decently hot, but not as hot as many complain of - then again, maybe the pepper profile has mellowed after 3 years of aging. Definitely worth a try and a fun brew, but probably would not try again.

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Photo of MonDak_Joe1953
3.49/5  rDev +16.7%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from 500ml bottle into glass. '2016' dated bottle.
Muddy brown colored body, with reddish highlights when presented to light. Light tan cap, fed by bubbles. Good spotting of lacing.
Aroma of dark biscuit malt, dark fruit, hot pepper, toffee, and bourbon barrel.
Strong tastes of sweeter dark fruit and toffee, with the hotter chiles. Good roasted malt background, with bourbon barrel notes. No real bitterness, but has tongue sting from the peppers. Has rather a mellow burn, not overwhelming. Aftertaste is like what eating a medium hot chile and a handful of raisins or prunes provides.
Medium mouth feel. Taste profile moves through rather quickly, with a slight burn from the chiles.
This is not a beer that I would look for often, but a very good experiment of what can be done with a malt beverage. Is it too hot - no, but is it very pleasurable - no to that as well.

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Photo of BillNevins
4.05/5  rDev +35.5%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2013 bottle just opened Dec 4 2017. Whew this is a hot one. I live in New Mexico and love hot chile, so I am not running away but this is one arrogant bastard of a spicy hot ale! Sip it slow, though, and let it warm, and it does grow on you. The hops are still there, deep behind the burn, and that richness of Double AB comes through. Not bad. I think I will check out the 2017 bottling and see how it has developed.
Going to finish the bottle while eating beef and potato slow cooked stew on a cold night, and ya know I do think this will be fine.
Not sure how often I will go back to this beer, but it ain't a bad experience this time through. Salud!

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Photo of VeganUndead
3.31/5  rDev +10.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

Bottle aged for 2 years so obviously a bit skewed of a presentation. Malty sweetness on the nose with obvious heat, pour looks like mud. Heat is not dominating anymore but residual, not terrible, not great, a bit weird

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Photo of TerryMills
1.77/5  rDev -40.8%
look: 2 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 1.5

This is a pretty bad beer imo and severely over priced .. I've had waaay better Chile infused beers for half the price...

Its just a cluster fuck of flavor with hardly any Chile flavor noticeable..

I'm about done with stone in general.

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Photo of GoffmanvsDuffman
3.67/5  rDev +22.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Started sweeter than I expected, but had a ground pepper type of heat and spice to it. Good flavor, but not as hot or complex as Punishment, which I prefer.

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Photo of superspak
4/5  rDev +33.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

500 ml bottle into tulip glass, 2015 vintage bottling. Pours very hazy/cloudy dark reddish brown/light copper color with a 1-2 finger dense light khaki head with good retention, that reduces to a small cap that lingers. Nice spotty soapy lacing clings around the glass. Aromas of big grapefruit, orange peel, raisin, cherry, plum, chili pepper, pine, caramel, honey, brown sugar, toffee, and toasted biscuit; with light vanilla, bourbon, oak, nuttiness, roast, smoke, herbal, floral, and oak/toasted earthiness. Damn nice aromas with great balance and complexity of citrus/pine hops, chili peppers, dark/bready malt, and light-moderate bourbon barrel notes; with great strength. Taste of big grapefruit, orange peel, raisin, cherry, plum, chili pepper, pine, caramel, honey, brown sugar, toffee, and toasted biscuit; with light vanilla, bourbon, oak, nuttiness, roast, smoke, herbal, floral, and oak/toasted earthiness. Light-moderate pine/citrus peel bitterness and pepper spiciness on the finish; with lingering notes of grapefruit, orange peel, raisin, cherry, plum, chili pepper, pine, caramel, honey, brown sugar, toffee, toasted biscuit, herbal, floral, and oak/toasted earthiness on the finish for a while. Great complexity, robustness, and balance of citrus/pine hops, chili peppers, dark/bready malt, and light-moderate bourbon barrel flavors; with a great malt/bitter/spiciness balance, and zero astringent flavors after the finish. Light-moderate dryness from bitter/spiciness, increasing through the glass. Medium carbonation and medium-full body; with a very smooth, creamy/bready/sticky, and lightly slick/resinous balanced mouthfeel that is great. Alcohol is very well hidden; a light warmth with zero barrel booziness after the finish. Increasing pepper heat through the glass, but never overwhelming. Overall this is a great pepper spiced American strong ale! All around great complexity, robustness, and balance of citrus/pine hops, chili peppers, dark/bready malt, and light-moderate bourbon barrel flavors; very smooth and easy to sip on for the ABV, and despite the increasing pepper spice/heat. Barrel seemed to be overpowered a bit, but had solid presence. Base beer flavors were still showcased very well. I have had other pepper beers that were more intense on peppers/heat, yet still very drinkable. I have a very high tolerance for pepper flavors, so this was extremely easy drinking. A really enjoyable offering all around.

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Photo of rodbeermunch
3.66/5  rDev +22.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Well I apparently like these more than your average person. Drank for the first time at the Liberty Station brewery and all that bocce ball.

Brown pour, very thin 1/7" head. Aroma of chile, bourbon, caramel, hops, roasted and dark malt, there is a lot going on in terms of ingredients right out the gate.

Taste, I can dig it, a challenging beer, its a big one, all those bastards, then bourbon, then chile heat. The price is a little prohibitive, but I still liked the beer, no one aspect of it dominated.

I wouldn't buy it off the shelf, but I might entertain a pour of it if I run into it on tap again.

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Photo of rypkr
3.7/5  rDev +23.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Um wtf. I expected to rate this in the 4.5 range based on reviews of the heat. Is this even a Chile beer?

$20 for 500ml I was expecting something extreme. Not a barrel aged arrogant bastard with a spritz of tabasco.

Now don't get me wrong, this isn't not enjoyable. I am very much enjoying the thick, fruity, malty and oaky flavors with the MILD pepper heat. But for the price and reputation? This is definitely one and done. This is solid for a chile beer, but worth about $6-$7 to me.

The fact that I spent $20 on this for a 500ml makes me scoff at arrogant brewing. Obviously a chile beer will never rate "world class" on BA. But given the reviews of apparent extremity alongside my personal affinity for spicy beers I expected so much more.

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Photo of TastyIsBeer
4.52/5  rDev +51.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Just cracked my 2013 bottle and I was... nervous. Now, about halfway done, nervous no more. If you like chili beers you will find the aroma pretty unbelievable -- I've had a few and this easily is the most potent. So green, for lack of a better word. I can imagine eating fresh jalapeños. There is a burn in the back of your throat and on your lips, but not crazy so long as you sip. I had "medium" hot Thai Tom Yum soup last week that was a lot closer to having me cry uncle than this. Very worthy for those who like it hot.

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Photo of Gregaroo
3.62/5  rDev +21.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

2015 bottle. I didn't really get the bourbon taste that I was hoping for. Almost black in color with a caramel head. Nice aromas and some heat from the chile peppers. This was a good one.

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Photo of EMV
3.44/5  rDev +15.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

Poured from a bomber into a tulip

L: Pours a hazy dark mahogany brown. Two fingers of off-white head. Lacing is spot on.

S: Rich and malty in aroma... mixed with roasted pepper/vegetable. Sharp with a bit of barrel character.

T/F: It's complicated. There's heat... and more than a little, kicking you up front and then lingering on the tongue for a bit. It's not 'off the wall' spicy, and there's a lot more going on. You still have the caramel maltiness from the 'Bastard' base and some booziness/vanilla from the barrel but it's somewhat dominated by the roasted pepper heat. Medium in body and carbonation... it ends with more heat and leaves the tongue tingling.

O: To start with... hot pepper beers aren't my cup of.. .well.. beer. I can appreciate (or try to) what they've done with 'Crime' and I'm very glad I had a chance to experience it, but not one that I would re-visit. Keep pushing the envelope gents!

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Photo of Jadjunk
3.84/5  rDev +28.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

"On Arrogant Bastard Ale's 13th birthday, we threw all our Bastards together - Arrogant Bastard Ale, OAKED Arrogant Bastard Ale and Double Bastard Ale - to create Lukcy Basartd Ale. Later, a crime was committed against this gorgeous beer by adding an absurd amount of freshly harvested local peppers, including mid-level-heat red and green jalapenos and ultra-hot black nagas. Caribbean red hots, Moruga scorpions and fatalis, and thus Crime was born." Brewed in the style of an American Strong Ale with peppers added, aged in bourbon barrels. Available in 500ml. bottles as part of the Quingenti Millilitre series.

Poured from a 500 ml. bottle to a tulip glass.

(Appearance) Pours a crisp, foamy head of a caramel tan shade over a burgundy-amber body with dense, varied sediment in tow and light, sporadic carbonation. Retention is good and lacing is light and spotty. 4.25

(Smell) Richly caramelized bread malts and malt syrups with a rich, sweet bourbon backbone, employing aromas of toasted oak, vanilla and peat notes. Very subtle creeping in of the peppers, adding a soft fruitiness, accenting the malt and bourbon characters and contributing an aromatic effervescence. Potency is moderate. 4

(Taste) A continuation of bread malts, malt syrups and bourbon come together in a richly caramelized malt base with a very evident drag of chili pepper heat, arguably the most intense I have experienced in a beer thus far, enough to be a central feature of this beer- and yet, it comes a half step away from the point of being distracting and/or unpleasant, a perfect afterburn. Very enjoyable bourbon tones and flavors of rich vanilla and toasted oak tannins. Enjoyable, but prickly from the pepper flavor, without a doubt. 3.75

(Mouthfeel) Texture is slick, lightly residual, mildly syrupy, smooth, spicy, medium dry. Carbonation is light, generating a medium frothiness and a lightly crisp finish. Body is medium/heavy for the style, medium/heavy overall. Balance is slightly sweet and spicy over boozy and grainy. Alcohol presence is modest and there are no off characters. 3.75

(Overall) No doubt distractedly spicy to some, pleasingly tingly and unique to many others, I fall in the latter category. The heat index makes this beer a gradual sipper for me, but there is plenty of room otherwise to savor the less direct flavors of bourbon and caramelized malts, for a smooth drinking ale with a prickly, warming afterthought about it. A curious experiment, and not one that should be taken lightly. 3.75

Stone Brewing Company's
Crime (2013)
3.84/5.00

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Photo of AJmon13
5/5  rDev +67.2%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

2015 Bottle Drank on 2016-10-04:
I've been drinking Crime since it first became available in Ohio with the 2013 batch. Always been a fan, and embraced the heat in full force. While the 2013 bottles still holds my nostalgia, the 2015 batch toned down the heat in favor of a more overall-enjoyable palate. Now drinking my third bottle of Crime, with around a year of aging, I may find preference in the severely toned down version. Definitely going to seek out more bottles of Crime for more intensive bottle aging - looking forward to opening my matching bottle of Punishment sometime in 2017. Overall, Crime remains a highly overlooked and harshly critiqued beer. If you don't like difficult spices, stay away, that much should be obvious.

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Photo of stevoj
3.27/5  rDev +9.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Underneath the searing pepper heat lie elements of a great ale. Bourbon barrel takes some of the edge off but heat still lingers on the lips and tongue.

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Photo of NolaHopHead
3.76/5  rDev +25.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Bottle. Was not sure what to expect of this. Murky brown brew. Woodsy sweet malt aroma. Sweet malty old ale with a little pepper spice, not bad. In all fairness bad this after drinking a big pepper stout so the pepper flavor in this one seemed subdued.

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Photo of arizcards
4.12/5  rDev +37.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Picked up Crime at TW Arrowhead in mid-November for $16.99. Bottled in 2015.

Beer poured an Arrogant Bastard brown with a very nice off white head.

Nose is citrus, vanilla, and light booze.

Taste is a big battle between the barrel and the peppers. The baseline citrus is still present enhanced by the oak, vanilla, and light bourbon. But it is tough to sense that with a medium (in my book) pepper heat that is overwhelming the beer. But if one keeps working at it you catch the goodness of the base beer and barrel characteristics. The heat mellows the more you sip it.

Mouthfeel is medium bodied and very smooth.

Overall this is a way interesting beer. The price of admission is steep but from my point of view it was worth the entertainment!

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Photo of Pencible
3.42/5  rDev +14.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: This poured an opaque dark copper with some tan head.
S: It smelled like oak and whole grain bread, with some peppers and subtle vanilla.
T: It tasted like oak and barley malt, with some spicy peppers and sweet caramel and vanilla. It had a hot but clean and sweet aftertaste.
M: It was thick with moderate carbonation. Nice full body.
D: This was an interesting brew. The peppers over shadowed most of the bourbon character, so this could have the same effect if they just added peppers to Oaked Bastard. Still had a nice balance in the scent and taste, not too hot. The body was solid, but the finish had lasting heat, so it must be sipped. Not sure how this would age. Fresh is fun to try once.

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Photo of Suds
3.81/5  rDev +27.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

This is more than a beer...it is an experience. The beer is a hazy brown color with an off-white head. The smell is barley-wine like, with malt, wood, booze, and vanilla. The taste, however, is a shock...intense heat...hot peppers! It takes many sips for the spice to calm, and for more subtle fruit and malt flavors to come out. Boozy heat is there as well. This is an aggressive beer. Interesting, but not quite drinkable.

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Photo of samtrillo
4.13/5  rDev +38.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Seems other low reviewers couldn't handle the heat! Or their bottles happened to be spicier than mine... To me kick of pep on the back of the throat had a nice winter warming effect. Not too overpowering at all.

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Photo of CHickman
3.79/5  rDev +26.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Pours hazy reddish amber color with a beige foamy 1-2 finger head that faded quickly and left minimal spotty lacing. As expected, not the most impressive head but expected for a chili beer.

Smells of caramel, toasted grains, sweet malt, brown sugar, black cracked pepper and hot peppers like fresh cut jalapeno's. The base beer comes through with mild oaky notes and rich malty tones, while the hot peppers add some zest but don't completely overpower the nose.

Tastes like it smells but with more heat (obviously), a mix of toffee and maple syrup hitting first before the same lineup as the nose kicks in with caramel, toasted grains, bourbon booze burn, sweet malt, brown sugar, black cracked pepper, tea leaf, cinnamon and hot peppers like a fresh cut jalapeno's or habenero's. This heat is strong but not obnoxious, adding to the oak aging and malty base of the Arrogant Bastard. Some metallic yeast in the finish that trails off spicy.

Mouthfeel is thin and watery compared to the regular Bastard, but the oak/barrel aging and peppers add some thickness and of corse bring the heat as it trails off very spicy and earthy. Aftertaste is not bad and this was much tamer than I expected, much easy to drink than Punishment. Overall a very good chili beer which I'm glad I was smart enough to split with 3 other people; a little bit goes a long way and all 4 of us enjoyed this beer for what it is.

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Photo of neurobot01
4.22/5  rDev +41.1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

500ml c&c bottle into a tulip at fridge temp, allowed to warm. 2015 iteration.

Look: clear burnt ochre with a lingering light tan head.

Smell: mostly Arrogant Bastard with a little bourbon; I'm not picking up anything from the peppers.

Taste: initial assault is of fairly vegetal pepper, but gives way quickly to caramel, toffee, lingering pepper spice (nothing worse than Tabasco, heatwise). The peppers themselves have quite a lot of complexity. It's hard to describe, but it isn't just one-dimensional "pepper" flavor. It's reminiscent of papaya seeds. There's also a lot of fruitiness (strawberry, grapefruit, papaya, kiwi) in the taste overall.

Feel: medium-plus in the body—creamy and delicious.

Overall: I took a flyer buying this beer, but suspected I'd be in the minority who'd enjoy it (the supposedly milder 2015 version, anyway). And enjoy it I did. The peppers complement the brash base beer nicely, while the barrel rounds everything out. Will probably grab another bottle, high price notwithstanding.

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Photo of BEERchitect
4.15/5  rDev +38.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

The self-deprecating side of Stone Brewing says that they ruined a perfectly good batch of Lukcy Basartd. But what they did was to take it from an aggressively hopped, barreled and boozed elixir that's caught between drinkalble and savory and into something that's aggressively peppered but smoothened for a much more food-friendly approach.

Rust, honey, apricot and camel explain the bulk of the hazy hues that bounce from the glass. A partial-creamy froth. And as the obvious smoked pepper twinge of heat billow into the nose, so does a rounded caramel, toast, cashew and oak fragrance. Its taste is remarkably sweet with caramel, toffee, biscuit, honey and fruit jam... at least to start.

And the ale simply blossoms across the palate. As its malty-sweet, poundcake texture softens, the beer's sharp citrusy character of grapefruit and orange peel, pith and rind rises for a piquant flavor that accessorizes the taste of apricot and mango marmalade. Oak, peppercorn, vanilla, coffee and soft buttery nuttiness keep coming until the warm and fruity taste of toasted peppers offer their pulp, flesh and spicy, seedy simmering heat.

Malty-sweet, bitter-sweet and remarkably balanced, the beer finishes with cream and oak tannin while the green taste of garden peppers seem green-bean-like. Torn pinecone and a dash of spicy hot sauce round out the aftertaste while the ale stays surprisingly even-keel in the deepest of tastes.

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Photo of Wiltonj
4.26/5  rDev +42.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

In the glass the beer has substance. As you lift it to your mouth you get the pepper heat in the aroma but no direct burn in the mouth. It is mainly a smokey, peppery aftertaste that lingers and contributes to the depth of the beer. I love chili beers and this one is subtle.

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Crime from Arrogant Consortia
Beer rating: 2.99 out of 5 with 529 ratings