Punishment
Arrogant Consortia

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Style:
Chile Beer
Ranked #78
ABV:
12%
Score:
70
Ranked #47,543
Avg:
2.98 | pDev: 32.21%
Reviews:
87
Ratings:
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Notes: A palate-punishing ale unlike any other
Never intended for the timid, Punishment is the capsaicin-throttled spawn of a beer behemoth, Double Bastard Ale. In this year’s brew, the flavors of Double Bastard Ale have been further enhanced by the bourbon barrel aging. The addition of chile peppers to the beer adds lingering flavors in the finish of subtle tropical fruit and some layers of heat along with the toffee, caramel malt and hop flavors.
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Photo of MonDak_Joe1953
3.41/5  rDev +14.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

500ml bottle, caged and corked. 2016 vintage.
Cloudy, amber brown colored body, with a hint of copper. Off white colored head is minimal in height and fades away quickly. No lacing.
Aroma of caramel/toffee and bourbon oak barrel.
Taste of dark malts, caramel and toffee. Has some floral hops too. The pepper heat comes and goes with each sip but is not overwhelming.
Medium mouth feel, rather flat carbonation.
The bottle age has taken away a lot of the pepper heat. The bourbon barrel is still there, which I think emphasizes the higher ABV%.

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Photo of superspak
4/5  rDev +34.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

500 ml bottle into tulip glass, 2015 vintage bottling. Had to use a wine key to remove the cork as usual. Pours moderately hazy/cloudy dark ruby red, light copper/brown color with a 1-2 finger dense and rocky cream colored head with great retention, that reduces to a small cap that lingers. Nice spotty soapy lacing clings on the glass, with a fair amount of streaming carbonation retaining the cap. Aromas of big caramel, brown sugar, toffee, chile/jalapeno peppers, pepper skins, raisin, orange, citrus peel, vanilla, bourbon, toasted oak, and brown bread; with light notes of molasses, smoke, and herbal/toast/oaky earthiness. Damn nice aromas with great balance and complexity of dark/bready malt, peppers, bourbon barrels, and light citrus/earthy hop notes; with great strength. Taste of big caramel, brown sugar, toffee, chile/jalapeno peppers, pepper skins, raisin, orange, citrus peel, vanilla, bourbon, toasted oak, and brown bread; with light notes of molasses, smoke, and herbal/toast/oaky earthiness. Light-moderate pepper spiciness, and light pine/citrus peel bitterness on the finish. Lingering notes of caramel, brown sugar, toffee, chile/jalapeno peppers, pepper skins, raisin, orange, citrus peel, vanilla, bourbon, toasted oak, brown bread, light molasses/smoke, and herbal/toast/oaky earthiness on the finish for a while. Great complexity, robustness, and balance of dark/bready malt, peppers, bourbon barrels, and light citrus/earthy hop flavors; with a nice malt/spiciness balance; and zero cloying/astringent flavors after the finish. Light-moderate increasing dryness from lingering pepper spiciness. Light-medium carbonation and medium-full body; with a very smooth, creamy/bready, fairly sticky, and lightly slick/tannic balanced mouthfeel that is great. Light-moderate increasing pepper heat after the finish, but not too overwhelming. Not much alcohol warmth or barrel booze for 12%. Overall this is an excellent barrel aged spiced American strong ale. All around great complexity, robustness, and balance of dark/bready malt, peppers, bourbon barrels, and light citrus/earthy hop flavors; very smooth and easy to drink for the big ABV; despite the increasingly spicy/heated pepper finish. Not too overly spicy from the sizable malt backbone. Age probably mellowed it out though. Nicely balanced between the base beer, bourbon barrels, and mix of pepper varieties. Wish I could have tried it fresh, to get more hop character; but still very enjoyable all around. I have a high tolerance for heat though, so definitely not for everyone.

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Photo of rodbeermunch
3.45/5  rDev +15.8%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours the usual dark copper and amber color for Arrogant Bastard Ale with 2/7" off white head at the top of the glass. Aroma has all those Chinook hops, a small amount of barrel, larger amount of pepper. I like the aroma, I could smell this all day. Probably the best thing about the beer.

Taste, hey this brings the chili pepper heat, but not so much that it obscures everything else, you can still pull plenty of hoppiness and bitterness out of this one. The barrel notes are slightly timid, but when you're bringing the habanero and whatnot, that is going to provide some cover.

The toffee and caramel flavors from the malt and adequate carbonation help keep this beer from lingering too hot and heavy. I definitely seem to like it more than your average person. I dig it though, you might break a sweat drinking it. And yeah, the next day is a little hot, but you gotta live man, live for today.

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Photo of EMV
3.39/5  rDev +13.8%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a bomber into a Dogfish Head tulip

L: Cloudy thick brown pour. Thin head... modest lacing.

S: Spice and heat... bourbon, caramel, and typical Arrogant hops.

T/F: Mostly... painful. Spicy as hell up front, lots of heat but somewhat balanced by the booze and sweet caramel of the underlying brew. A slight smoky and vegetable presence... thick and chewy. Carbonation relatively light. Warm and tingly on the back of your throat and warming on the inside as it goes down.

O: Not pleasant really... but not horrible either. Interesting flavors... lots of heat... and a truly well named beer. I think I enjoyed this a little more than 'Crime' but it's not one I'd seek out again. I'm glad I tried it once... and even more glad that I shared the bomber with a friend. No way I could down one of these on my own.

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Photo of GoffmanvsDuffman
4.05/5  rDev +35.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

I like chili beers and this has been the hottest. Hot pepper flavors followed by sweet oak and a lingering burn. Nice color and body. Great hot spice flavor.

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Photo of Wasatch
4.25/5  rDev +42.6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

750ml

Pours a very nice dark brown color, with some very nice carbonation, with a nice small/quick/fizzy light tan head, which leaves a nice medium size island and some sticky lacing. The nose is malty, with some very nice hoppyness, some licorice, chilies. The taste is very nice malty, very nice hop note, licorice notes, chilie. Full Body, ABV hidden pretty well, with a very nice bitter/dry finish. Overall, a very nice brew.

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Photo of jzeilinger
2.69/5  rDev -9.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

In review is a 2013 bottle.

A - Deep burgundy color, no carbonation, no foam, no lacing, no nothin'!

S - Peppers, some paper-like oxidation, bourbon, sweet toasted malt aroma is extremely light.

T - Pepper, pepper, and pepper from start to finish. In fact, it's so obnoxious that is masks any other flavors that might be going on here. There's an oxidized malt presence that pokes through a little bit before the overwhelming burn takes over again.

M - Full bodied and coagulates all the spit in your mouth!

O - Good lord, get me some sour cream and a fire extinguisher!! Not recommended and not worth the $19 price tag.

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Photo of myelle6987
2.11/5  rDev -29.2%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.25

A: Poured dark copper with a light tan head.
S: It smelled like sweet caramel, vanilla and oak. Only got the slightest bit of pepper aroma
T: I absolutely love chili beers. After reading the reviews here I feel like I must have gotten a bad bottle. I was very excited for this supposedly " capsaicin-throttled spawn of a beer behemoth" I got absolutely no heat or pepper flavor in this beer. It tasted just like a barrel aged Double Bastard which is good but not what I was promised. It sounded like it would be the hottest beer I ever had and it was very mild. Very disappointing
M: It was had a good body with moderate carbonation.
D: I wish I would have gotten the beer that the bottle and many others say this beer is, but for some reason mine had no heat whatsoever :(

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Photo of russpowell
2.49/5  rDev -16.4%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 1.75

2013 bottle ( tried the Crime form that year & buried this sucker deep ) Pours a turbid & effervescent Auburn with a pinky of tan head. Thin tan head, drops bright, below average head retention

Tons of Habenero, a little cherry, some oak. Becomes hotter & to to the point = DRAINPOUR

T: All this nose in the flavor, too damn spicy

MF: Medium body, a some carbonation

Unless you are some pepperhead, just, don't !!!

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Photo of Jadjunk
3.64/5  rDev +22.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

"Punishment was born as Double Bastard ale- a heavy, bitter, beast of a beer. It was already not for the timid, but with the addition of jaw-dropping qualities of freshly harvested local peppers, including mid-level-heat red and green jalapenos and ultra-hot black nagas Caribbean red hots, Moruga scorpions and fatalis, it morphed into a truly punishing brew." Brewed in the style of an American Strong Ale, available in 500ml. bottles and on limited draft. Companion entry alongside Crime, past of the Quingenti Millilitre Series.

Poured from a 500ml. bottles to a tulip glass.

(Appearance) Pours a smooth, frothy foam head of a caramel cream color over a mildly hazy caramel brown body with light carbonation. Retention is average and there is no visible lacing. 3.5

(Smell) Bread and caramel malts, earthy spiciness of rich cinnamon and nutmeg, spicy pepper burn, rich bourbon barrel aromas with undertones of vanilla and subtle toasted oak tannins. Potency is moderate. 3.75

(Taste) Rich, caramelized bread malt body with bourbon undertones of vanilla, oak and butterscotch and a considerable hot pepper presence that generates a significant tingle and afterburn following the finish, notably more pervasive than Crime. Finishes spicy and smooth. 3.5

(Mouthfeel) Texture is slick, silky, softly chewy, smooth. Carbonation is moderate, generating a medium frothiness and a mildly crisp finish. Body is medium/heavy for the style, medium/heavy overall. Balance is moderately spicy over sweet. Alcohol presence is low and there are no off characters. 3.75

(Overall) Alarmingly spicy with about as much malt character and richness as Crime. With the build coming though otherwise identically, I'd much prefer the more appreciated balance of Crime over Punishment, but this may hit the spot for anybody looking for a rich beer with a serious dose of hot peppers. 3.75

Stone Brewing Company's
Punishment
3.64/5.00

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Photo of BradC
3.92/5  rDev +31.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 500mL bottle dated 2015, has about a year on it. If you like heat, this one is for you. Pours a reddish brown with very little head. Smells oxidized, caramel, toffee, sweet with some vegetal pepper notes. Tastw starts off like it smells, toffee, caramel, sweet vanilla, malt and then gives way to a lingering pepper heat. I get heat more than pepper flavor and the heat lingers. Carbonation is way low, but any more and it would make the burn uncomfortable. Overall, I like hit stuff and hot peppers and beer...I'm not crazy about this, but it's pretty well made and I would probably go another round with it. Crime was a little mellower and enjoyable IMO.

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Photo of billshmeinke
3.81/5  rDev +27.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.25

Corked and caged bottle that says 2015. Poured into a wine glass.

Look: Very murky reddish brown hue with a two finger foamy off white head. Leaves plenty of lacing behind.

Smell: Musty oxidation with lots of sweet caramel, molasses, and brown sugar. Some oaky vanilla sweetness with some spicy, fruity scents as well. Smells like an old ale with some caramel or toffee and a slice of jalapeño as a garnish. Interesting.

Taste: Sweet toffee and molasses are the big driving forces of the flavor here. They give way to resiny bitterness and some herbaceous and fruity jalapeño spice on the back end. There's a mocha/cocoa flavor that becomes more apparent as it warms.

Mouthfeel: Somewhat sticky and sweet, but somehow not super heavy. The alcohol and heat bring some numbing warmth to the equation. Carbonation is very low. The heat kicks you in the back of the throat.

Overall: This is like an old ale mixed with a chile beer. It's sweet, oxidized, and spicy. I personally dig it, although I wish the oxidation wasn't as prevalent. I'm not sure why the score is so low. I'd definitely try this one again. It's cool, and weird, and different. Fuck wid it if you're tryina get weird.

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Photo of NolaHopHead
2.2/5  rDev -26.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 1 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Enjoyed Crime, but this one was terrible. I like the pepper finish in a lot of these stouts and don't even mind a little heat, but this was nothing but heat, way too much. Kept trying Tio like it for several sips as it warmed, finally gave up and drain poured.

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Photo of budzNnugs614
3.44/5  rDev +15.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Look: Nice golden hue, with decent head. Poured alot thicker than I had anticipated.

Smell: A prevalent malt prescence leanding to notes of caramel, and rich toffee. Bourbon makes is some known, sneaking in afterwards with hints of vanilla. Lastly, the bourbon lingers, pairing with a faint, but noticeable pepper prescence.

Taste: Similar to the smell, except this is where the peppers come into play. You get the malty sweetness, followed by clean bourbon flavors; not too assertive. Lastly the peppers hit. At first a strong pepper flavor then it carries into a spicy, dry ass finish, that does way with the beer.

Feel: Not as thick as it looks

Overall: Better than the average rating. Nothing crazy. It's a few sips, then down the drain unfortunately. I love spice, but the heat, especially the finish made it too much for a full glass. Granted I am extremely hung over when writing this, so my stomach is exactly handling alot at the moment. Try it if you see it. Nothing special though.

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Photo of Mooslerfitness
4.07/5  rDev +36.6%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

I'm a bastard fan take out the chili's this is a 5 but this is a chili beer and done well it's hot mines aged a little but put a year or so this would be nice

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Photo of arizcards
3.87/5  rDev +29.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Picked up a 500 ml bottle from TW Arrowhead in mid-November for $16.99. Bottled in 2015.

Beer poured a murky brown with a nice white head.

Nose is getting nicer as the beer warms. Initially notes of chili pepper dominated but barrel notes have been coming out, primarily oak and vanilla.

Taste is well...hot chili peppers. Initial sips were hot but as the pallette has become desensitized the vanilla and oak flavors come out but definitely on the second level.

Feel is full and smooth.

Overall this is not as flavorful as Crime as it seems the chili intensity is higher. But hey this was fun to try. You gotta love Stone for putting out the product. Will i do it again? Nah, but life is short and try what is out there while we can!

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Photo of Pencible
2.57/5  rDev -13.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

A: This poured an opaque dark copper with lots of sediment and quickly dissipating light tan head.
S: It smelled like spicy chili peppers, with a little sweet caramel and vanilla and oak.
T: It tasted like burning. Just burning. If there were any other flavors, good luck finding them with a flaming tongue. It had a lasting hot aftertaste.
M: It was thick with moderate carbonation. Nice full body.
D: This was similar to Crime but with way more extreme heat. Forget balance or nuance, this was basically drinking a glass of magma. Not sure if age would help mellow, but this was really tough to get through fresh. Not recommended.

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Photo of DrewScottAndyCampbell
4.22/5  rDev +41.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.25

L: A pleasant caramel and full head on pour. S: Sweet aroma of vanilla. T: You can definitely taste the spices, followed by sweet caramel, lingering pepper zest and spice. F: Body somewhere in the middle, the spices lighten it up. O: the bourban flavoring is apparent throughout with a long lasting spice

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Photo of samtrillo
4.2/5  rDev +40.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Again as with Crime I guess some bottles were too spicy? I don't know, there was definite spiciness there on the throat but it was a nice addition to the fruity caramel cream malt. I thought everything blended exceptionally from the high ABV to the peppers to the sweetness. A very good beer to sit down with on a cold night under the HD Fireplace. I'll drink the leftovers of this one, boys.

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Photo of CHickman
3.73/5  rDev +25.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Pours brown to blood red color with a 2 finger beige foamy head that faded about average time and leaves zero lacing. A better head than I expected from a chile beer, but still nothing really to admire.

Smells like an Arrogant Bastard initially and then a whole bunch of spices and hot peppers hit your nostrils and mingle with caramel and roasted grains. There is a sweetness but it gets knocked down by the hot peppers in the mix. I thought from the bottle description it would be worse, so this odor was not bad at all.

Tastes much better than I expected based on the warning on the back of the bottle; "many find only pain in this beer", "addition of chile peppers (jalapeno, serrano, Fresno and more) morphs it into a truly punishing beer." Perhaps I am a daredevil or masochist as the bottle claims would drink this since I split this bottle 3 ways and enjoyed my 7 oz's immensely. The base beer caramel, sweet malt and oak barrel flavors came through and mixes well with the heat of the chile peppers (jalapeno, serrano, Fresno, etc.) to make for a truly interesting take on this Stone classic.

Overall this was a solid brew, if you are brave enough to pop the cork off it. It ran through me like a goose and came out hot, but it was a lot of fun to drink and hid the 12% ABV quite well. Drink this is your dare bitches, LOL!

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Photo of PorterLambic
3.73/5  rDev +25.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Clouded brown with a wee tan head, for a moment.
Smell is weaker than most barrel aged brews though still with the expected maltiness, wood, whiskey and a spicy pepper note added in.
Taste is malty, woody, whiskey and peppers. Balance is good.
Body is a bit beyond medium, effervescence is solid middle.

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Photo of atone315
3.46/5  rDev +16.1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

2015 bottle poured as part of a friendly bottle share during the Packers vs Cowboys game. This beer is good although a bit more spicy than I was expecting, I guess they weren't kidding when they named this beer. I didn't really pick up any barrel characteristics but the chiles definitely showed up. One dimensional beer, would not buy again.

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Photo of BiaSongThan
4.86/5  rDev +63.1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

Muddy brown with tan head that dissipated. Aroma just like bba arrogant bastard. Oak, bourbon, toffee, caramel malt, slight citrus dank hop. And then a hint of chilies too. Taste: up front the oak, bourbon, vanilla, toffee, caramel, malt. Middle of the mouth the hot pepper appears and plays off the citrus hop flavors. Finishes with a lasting heat and slight alcohol warmth. Mouthfeel is medium. Overall, excellent use of spicy flavor to enhance an already great beer. Heat doesn't overpower, but leaves you eager for another sip. Some find it too spicy, I didn't, thought it was just enough heat without interfering with the beer underneath. Maybe it could've been just a little hotter...

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Photo of von_kaiser
4.29/5  rDev +44%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

dark, murky brown appearance w/ finger & half head. not much to the scent but straight up spice! the taste is of a sweet, spicy pepper. mouthfeel is not very thin but not too thick....perfect carbonation and the chilli heat hides the alcohol quite well. the heat stays with you for a while.
i enjoyed this beer! i enjoyed this more than crime. i would def seek out again and try it with age. i'd recommend trying this beer. however, i could see this beer not being for everyone as the heat from the peppers can be extreme. cheers!

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Photo of BEERMILER12
3.78/5  rDev +26.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Vintage 2015

A: Pours a murky brown/mahogany color with 2 fingers of head that slowly fades down to a thin cap/ring around the glass

S: Peppers, peppery heat, lots of malt, and the bourbon barrels (oak, vanilla, bourbon) all come out and try to fight for aromatic supremacy. The peppers win out by a hair (literally the peppers, not the heat). Quite balanced for what it is

T: Starts off with lots of peppery heat (definitely more of the heat this time) followed by the peppers, malty sweetness, bourbon, and vanilla. The woody oak takes some time to come through, hitting hardest once the heat has died down a touch. The heat lingers, but allows for all of the other flavors to come through nicely, most notably the vanilla and malty notes. The sweetness form these cuts the heat enough to the point where it's still in your face but not overwhelming. Finishes with lingering heat and some light vegetal pepper notes

M: Medium-full bodied with moderate carbonation. Slick

O: It seems like everyone who tries this and calls it too spicy doesn't get Stone and the fact that they hit home the point in everything they brew. No different here, which is why the beer is called Punishment. Definitely a brew for those who like EXTREMELY spicy foods (which is why I picked up both this and Crime and enjoyed both) and really not for anyone else. Just don't go on and bitch about it when there's a big explanation about how spicy the beer is on the back. You know damn well what you're getting into

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Punishment from Arrogant Consortia
Beer rating: 70 out of 100 with 393 ratings