Brooklyner-Schneider Hopfen-Weisse | Brooklyn Brewery

Brooklyner-Schneider Hopfen-WeisseBrooklyner-Schneider Hopfen-Weisse
432 Ratings
Brooklyner-Schneider Hopfen-WeisseBrooklyner-Schneider Hopfen-Weisse

Brewed by:
Brooklyn Brewery
New York, United States

Style: Weizenbock

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 8.50%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
Brooklyn version. This brew is the result of the long friendship of Brooklyn brewmaster Garrett Oliver and Schneider brewmaster Hans-Peter Drexler. Garrett had always admired the delicate balance of flavors in Schneider Weisse, while Hans-Peter had long enjoyed the effusive hop character of Brooklyn East India Pale Ale and BLAST! Garrett's concept for the collaboration was that each brewmaster would brew essentially the same pale, hoppy weissbock in the other's brewery, but with different hopping to reflect the local hop flavor.

Dry-hopped w/ American Amarillo and Palisade.

Added by Todd on 09-18-2007

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Photo of Sammy
3.58/5  rDev -14.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

German grassy hoppiness and long-lasting enormous head. Average plus mouthfeel. Drying. Wheat, citrus.I don't think I enjoyed this as much as the S-B version, but maybe a bomber was too much.I have liked several weizen bocks more than this.A strong Hefeweizen, cloves, some bannana.

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Photo of spycow
3.75/5  rDev -10.3%

Photo of kjkinsey
4.25/5  rDev +1.7%

Photo of djrn2
4/5  rDev -4.3%

Photo of Knapp85
3.53/5  rDev -15.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

This poured out as a hazy golden yellow color with a fluffy white head on top. The head leaves a nice spotted amount of lacing on the glass with a decent retention. The smell of the beer gives off a soft wheat aroma along with plenty of hops too. The taste of the beer started with the wheat upfront that fades into a pretty strong bitterness that the hops bring to the beer. The mouthfeel is light bodied and smooth. Overall this beer was pretty nice.

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Photo of metter98
3.91/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Poured dark yellow with slight haziness and a big head. The level of carbonation was so high that the head never disappeared from the top.
S: There are aromas of flowery hops and spices with hints of alcohol.
T: The initial taste is sweet, but there is good balance between the hops and the underlying wheat. The finish is somewhat bitter and spicy with some alcohol heat. The flavor is rather unique and imparts qualities of a hefeweizen and an IPA.
M: The beer feels medium bodied on the palate, although the level of carbonation makes it feel very smooth and not too heavy or thick.
D: It's very drinkable if you like IPAs that have a lot of hop flavor, however the alcohol content will catch up to you.

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Photo of BEERchitect
4/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

An explosion of flavors occur on the very first sip of this beer. Hefeweizens are complex and balanced enough- combined with the strength of stronger, bock-type wheats and IPA worthy hop additions... whew!

Expected hazy dark golden, rusty looking to the eye. A great gray-ish type head forms on the beer, retains and laces well. A fine look, but darker than expected.

Citrus aromas hit first (dry-hopping), but then the aromas morph into tropical fruits, estery fruitiness, soft spices, clove, and a bubblegummy-bananna sweetness toward the end.

Flavors follow the same outline except for the added earthy bitterness and minty cooling flavors and dryness in the end. But the initial orange zest or tangerine flavors work in the piney and banana taste just before a fleeting wheaty sweetness and ushering in the earthy/spicy hop notes along with the clove, white pepper, and mint.

Medium textured early, the carbonation is creamy and expansive and seems to emphasize the malt sweetness and bubblegum and banana esters. The beer holds onto the creamy textures well into the later seconds as the hop dryness and alcohol evaporation begin to come into play. Finishing decidedly bitter and earthy/piney, this beer fades into a long finish.

A very nice Wheat Beer that uses aggressive hops from both German Noble and American varieties. I'd like to see a more simplified Hefeweizen base and strict use of American hops at 70 IBU's. Could make the beer cleaner and less muddled.

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Photo of biboergosum
3.97/5  rDev -5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

750ml bottle.

This beer pours a cloudy medium apricot orange hue, with a multitude of thin foamy eggshell white head, which leaves some random droopy lace around the glass as it slowly recedes. It smells of fruity pale malt, Belgian yeast, a bit of acrid warming alcohol, and grassy pine hops. The taste is crisp boozy sweet wheat grain, mild banana and orchard fruit esters, more restrained yeast, alcohol in equal measure, and forest essence hops. The carbonation is moderate, the body medium-full in weight, fairly even, though just south of creamy territory. It finishes with a rising boozy, malty warmth, taking the grass and pine needles up with it.

A tough customer, this - Belgian and American both. Tasty, yes, but where the booze is of the sort where you sense it more than taste it, making it eminently more threatening.

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Photo of kojevergas
3.49/5  rDev -16.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle into Chimay goblet. Poured in low altitude Galway, Ireland.

A: Pours a two finger head, disappointingly thin, of poor retention, and very little cream. Semi transparent yellow colour. More haziness was expected.

Sm: Very floral and estery. Delightful. A medium strength scent. I'm excited to try it.

T: Very floral, but the esters are more limited. Alcohol does punch through, unfortunately. Body is very hoppy. There isn't a clear three act division, though the finish is comprised on lingering body flavour and alcohol. Not a great finish to an otherwise well done beer, throwing off the balance. Built well for the style, although admittedly atypically - nothing wrong with effective innovation. The first two thirds is much more flavourful than the last third. I like it.

Mf: Moderate thickness to support the flavour, but to the detriment of suitability to the style. Delightfully coarse, bringing out the notes of the body. Certainly not light. Wet until towards the finish, where some slight dryness enters in.

Dr: The off-balance and the alcohol are severe limitations for this beer. Clean up the finish and focus the flavour, and it'd be an A.

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Photo of brentk56
4.58/5  rDev +9.6%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

Appearance: Pours a cloudy honey color with a massive head that sticks, impressively, forevermore (or at least until well after I am finished)

Smell: The first thing you notice is the unusual aroma - pineapple, pine (verging on rosemary); malty weizenbock character underneath that adds complexity, but you have to know what you are seeking to find it

Taste: As if the aroma isn't singular, the combination of the IPA flavors and the weizenbock aspects throws one's tastebuds for a loop, as well; there really isn't a flavor progression as much as there is a combination - piney, spicy (red pepper flakes), pineapple, banana, coriander, clove, balsa wood - it's all there and, after the swallow, richocets off the back of the palate and arouses the tongue

Mouthfeel: Medium body with moderate, but prickly carbonation

Drinkability: Although I didn't care that much for the German twin, the American just thrills me to the marrow

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Photo of oline73
5/5  rDev +19.6%

Photo of Phyl21ca
4.25/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Bottle: Poured a cloudy dirty beige color ale with a large foamy head with good retention and some lacing. Aroma of dry hoppy notes with some citrus notes with a heavy side of wheat malt with light residual sugar notes. Taste is a good mix between a solid wheat malt backbone with light residual sugar which are balanced by some pretty dry hoppy notes with light citrus undertones. Body is full with limited filtration and good carbonation with no apparent alcohol. Very solid and unique offering. I would definitely like to try again.

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4/5  rDev -4.3%

Photo of DrBier
4.25/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of NeroFiddled
4.3/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Well now I'm confused - as if I wasn't before - or maybe I'm not confused anymore... ... ...when these beers first came out I thought it was one beer, and only about a month or so ago did I realize that there was a Brooklyn version as well as a Schneider version (I'd had the Schneider version). Well, I couldn't find any Brooklyn around here, but I was able to pick up a bottle in Tampa, Florida for $12.99. I'm guessing I could have gotten it for less at Whole Foods in Manhattan, but "you snooze, you lose", so OK.

Now I see that these are actually two DIFFERENT beers, and that Garrett brewed the Schneider version in Germany with Hans-Peter (but doing his own Brooklyn take on things), and that Hans-Peter brewed the Brooklyn version here with Garrett (but doing his own Amarillo/Palisades thing)... did I get that right? But, I see that the Brooklyn version is listed here as a weizenbock (not really) at 7.8%, but the label reads 8.5%. I dunno. What I did get out of each, clearly, was the hop selection. The Schneider reeked of Sapphire, while the Brooklyn clearly shows Palisade, and as a second, Amarillo - but time in the bottle may have affected that (marked 1008 on the back label; probably a year old now). So, OK...

A: Cloudy brass body. Creamy, slightly off-white head. Excellent retention, but average lacing (must be the alcohol).
S: Floral, spicy and woody (not quite cedar). Wheat. Mild banana. Slight chalky citrus rind. Mild pine. Some dull cut grass.
T: Flavor follows the aroma but wider, including notes of mild citrus (orange), papaya, melon, and an almost coriander-like note. There's even a delicate hint of cola in the finish. It's complex. A stiff bitterness balances it, and it finishes dry with a bit of raspy, chalky, hoppiness.
M: Medium bodied and effervescent.
D: Well-rounded and balanced, especially for such a big beer. And the alcohol never shows except in the strength. Well, maybe a little bit. But it's not thick in the mouth or sticky, and the malt and hop flavors are more than pleasant enough, and certainly complex. Worth seeking out before it's all gone!

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Photo of olradetbalder
3.75/5  rDev -10.3%

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4/5  rDev -4.3%

Photo of oberon
4.08/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Good to finally get my hands on this,poured into the Brooklyner-Schneider glass made just for this beer a murky lemon tea color with a nice large fluffy head that stuck like glue to the glass as it settled ever so slowly.Lighter aromas than expected I picked up some Amarillo resiny-citric presence along with some yeasty clove,man was this complex on the palate starting out somewhat phenolic and clovey with some banana esters than the hop presence shows through with some resiny features along with some lemony citrus notes,slightly medicinal with some spicey white pepper in the finish.Alot of stuff going on with a great American hop presence to go along with alot of weizenbock attributes,a great brew.

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Photo of Thorpe429
4.42/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Reviewed from notes.

Pours a somewhat dark yellow with a nice white head. A bit hazy. Nose brings a good amount of bubblegum, banana, and clove. Also a nice citrus hop presence. The taste really elevates the hops quite a bit. I'm not expert, but I'd venture at least a bit of Amarillo. Good German weizen yeast characteristics as well. Good, light feel with nice carbonation. Drinks really, really well. I'm a big fan of this.

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Photo of nickfl
4.32/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Two fingers of creamy, off white head on a slightly hazy, golden-copper body. The head settles slowly and leaves nice lace.

S - Spicy, citrus hop aroma; pungent and fresh. The yeast produces subtle notes of clove and bubblegum, backed by bready malt.

T - Surprisingly big, citrus hops. The fresh grapefruit hop note blends nicely with the bubblegum flavors from the yeast; the phenolic spice also compliments the hops. Bready, toasty malt comes out in the middle along with some caramel. The hops dominate the finish with more than enough bitterness to balance the malt.

M - Creamy, medium to heavy body, high carbonation, and a slightly dry finish.

D - A complex and very interesting beer. This is a very unusual beer and despite the strange concept it works very well. If the Schneider-Brooklyner version is a showcase for the yeast, then this is all about the hops; the yeast is always present, but it backs and compliments the hops. It is remarkable how well the flavors blend in this bizarre and delicious weisse/IPA.

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Photo of russpowell
4.01/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Cheers to Jw347 for this one!

Gusher, lost an oz or two, damn...pours a hazed straw with 4+ fingers of pearl white head. Really murks up with some crazy effervescence. Average lacing & zero head retention

S: Much fruityness, lemony hops & phenolics as this warms

T: Intense grapefruit hops, some acidity, juicy fruit gum lurking in the back ground & some boozeyness up front. A strong apple cider burn permeates this as it warms, plus much nice grapey fruityness, the whole acidic grapefruit thing, makes me a little less happy; style & taste-wise. Finishes fruitty with citric hops, dry with much apricots & pears & a touch of cinnamon

MF: Grainy, chewy with vigirous carbonation, there's an acidic quality here that's a bit offputting

Drinks good, but a some flaws & quirks make me think we still have few things to learn from the Deutsche about making weizenbocks, local tastes or not. Worthwhile, not world-class

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Photo of ChainGangGuy
4.37/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Appearance: Pours a hazy, orange-golden body with a tall, vigorous, sudsy, white head.

Smell: Notably spicy upfront with a strong, redolent scent of allspice, along with notes of clove and nutmeg. Plus, a spicy, tropical hop character. Sweetish wheat component. Tons of fruitiness coming ang going.

Taste: Malted wheat and barley blended with sweetened banana juice and chewing gum. Fair amount of spice and a generous addition of tropical fruit. Dash of peach schnapps. Growing wheat tanginess upon warming. Slight grassiness. A cereal sweetness that comes and goes, as does a tickle of acidity. Citrusy, spicy hop character with a medium bitterness. A finish that's all at once tangy, sweet, bitter, fruity... touch of pine resin on the very tail end of it. though I'm finding everything well balanced, just the right amount of sweet, malt, fruit, bitterness, spice flavor. The more you sit with it, the more the flavors evolve and rearrange themselves.

Mouthfeel: Medium-plus body. Medium carbonation. Slight stickiness to the mouthfeel.

Drinkability: Brooklyner-Schneider Hopfen-Weisse is hoppy, packed to the brim with flavors and complexities, enjoyably aromatic, but it remains singularly drinkable. Plus, what a classy-looking bottle! In all honesty, I enjoyed this WAAAY more than I thought I would.

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Photo of duceswild
5/5  rDev +19.6%

Photo of BuckeyeNation
4.45/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Blurry banana with a tangerine tint. The aged ivory colored cap looks like it belongs on a Belgian ale. It has fantastic texture and is a lace generator of the highest order. Not only does the beer look great, but the bottle and label are incredibly classy as well. Eye candy all around.

The nose is great on first sniff. And second. And third. The beer smells like an especially estery Belgian pale ale that uses American hops. What a great concept! Specifics: fresh pineapple, banana, bubblegum and a dash of musky clove. It's still only late in the first quarter, but so far Brooklyn-Schneider is kicking Schneider-Brooklyner's ass from one sideline to the other.

If you're forced to choose only one, this version of Hopfen-Weisse is clearly superior. In fact, it's so superior that it makes me think that something happened to the Schneider-Brooklyner beer on the way to the party. Amarillo and Palisade hops are better choices than Hallertau, but that can't be it. Hans-Peter Drexler and Garrett Oliver are both talented brewers, so that can't be it either.

This is an amazingly fruity weizenbock. I prefer the darker versions of the style, but this one is damn good. As with all world-class beer of this style, it's dripping with complexity. Every one of the above fruits is present on the palate, along with spiced peaches and white pepper.

Alcohol is barely noticed, other than the fact that it provides a subtle warming sensation that starts in the stomach and gradually radiates out to the fingertips. The mouthfeel needs a Belgian brewer's touch for the next highest score to be a consideration. On a positive note, it's built for speed and is begging me to put the hammer down. Buckle up!

After the less than spectacular Schneider-Brooklyner Hopfen-Weisse, little was expected from this Brooklyner-Schneider version. Wrong again and gladly so. This is lip smackingly delicious, gloriously drinkable beer that every BA owes it to himself or herself to acquire. Highly recommended.

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Photo of mikesgroove
4.03/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Ok so I saw these huge 750's in Whole foods last week and it brought back some fond memories of the beer that I drank last year on tap, so I had to see how the bottle conditioned version was going to hold up. The pour was nice, with a hazy bright, golden amber being presented in front of. A nice two inch head of white frothy lace then came up over it and only gradually settled down into a rocky crown across the top. Nice carbonation was evident bubbling up from the bottom.

The aroma was not as strong as I remeber. A touch light, with a noticeably lemon like hop aroma layered upon the light yeast body. Some wet hay notes way in the back as well with a decent over profile. The flavor followed along, being light and airy, good carbonation throughout really let the profile pop when it entered the mouth. First flavors were al ight funky hay, some lemongrass and a load of light cereal grains. Some touches of apple and peaches, maybe apricoti n the finish. Decent follow through on it as it left you looking for another sip. For 8.5% there was no hint of it and it was really quite the smooth drinker.

Overall not bad at all. The on tap version had a good deal more hoppiness to it, however this was still damn fine and I would definitly say you should seek this one out. Another quality beer from Brooklyn.

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