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Brooklyner-Schneider Hopfen-Weisse | Brooklyn Brewery

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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Brooklyn Brewery
New York, United States
brooklynbrewery.com

Style: Weizenbock

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 8.50%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
Brooklyn version. This brew is the result of the long friendship of Brooklyn brewmaster Garrett Oliver and Schneider brewmaster Hans-Peter Drexler. Garrett had always admired the delicate balance of flavors in Schneider Weisse, while Hans-Peter had long enjoyed the effusive hop character of Brooklyn East India Pale Ale and BLAST! Garrett's concept for the collaboration was that each brewmaster would brew essentially the same pale, hoppy weissbock in the other's brewery, but with different hopping to reflect the local hop flavor.

Dry-hopped w/ American Amarillo and Palisade.

Added by Todd on 09-18-2007

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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pDev:
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Photo of deereless
4.03/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Loads of thick creamy foam - spill over from the bottle, lots of floating sediment, hazy and opaque, deep muted straw - 4.25, S: Extremely citrusy, loads of lemon, noticeable hops which are quite earthy - 4.00, T: Quite tart and some strong hops, actually the hops are really the powering part, very earthy and green - 4.00, M: Nice and creamy - 4.00, D: An interesting beer, loads of flavor, and a wheat beer with lots of hops, I'd definitely drink this again - 4.25

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Photo of lpayette
4.1/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance- Pours a standard weisse hue with a nice big frothy head even on the most careful of pours. Nice lacing and plenty of retention. can't dock much on the appearance side. Clarity is a matter of how much yeast you pour in, as it should be.

Smell- Great! I've got a cold (usually avoid rating when I do), but this is one light beer that cuts right through the nasal passages. Very nice floral bouquet going on. Slighltly medicinal/herbal. Some big hop bitterness evident. I like the whole package here.

Taste- I struggled a little with this one initially, but I'm thinking it might be from what I am almost certain now is a bad memory from a bad bottle of the schneider version. Still, it's easy to see where these are nearly the same beer- just from my experience this one is much much better. There is still something that doesn't quite seem to mingle well between grain and malt, and I think it might be the slight tinge of sourness that lingers from mid sip to finish. hints of sour apple/possible slight offish flavor.

Mouthfeel- nice carbonation level provides ample delivery of full flavor molecules across the palate. Malty, caramelly underpinnings keep things moving along smoothly.

Drinkability- not bad at all. Probably not something I'll go for again and again, but easily quaffable nonetheless.

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Photo of Greggy
4.15/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A- Nice cloudy body resembling apricot puree. There is a nice head with decent lacing as well.

S- Very nice spicy banana and clove, nice hop presence.

T- Starts with a spicy clove then the hops hit and are mostly full of mineral content. The finish is dry, mineral, and some residual banana.

M- Low carbonation and nice complexity.

D- I could easily drink this again but I enjoyed the Schneider version leap and bounds more.

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Photo of gabeerfanswife
3.65/5  rDev -12.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Tried this along with its sibling beer Schneider-Brooklyner.

A: Dark yellow/light brown. Hazy but not cloudy. Kept its head.

S: Lots of banana. I personally was not able to smell a strong hop presence.

T: I could taste hops though. It was almost the inverse of what I smelled. Lots of hops-little banana.

M: Pretty thick.

D: 1-2 glasses is the limit for me but its quite good.

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Photo of zerofear13
3.82/5  rDev -8.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

This was a freakishly expensive bottle, so I expected a great deal from it. Amazing presentation, like Brooklyn has done with its Local 1. Popped the caged cork. Poured out a golden color, slightly dark. Amazing head with a terrific retention - very expected from a corked bottle. Be gentle pouring these bad boys. Smelled almost immediately of bananas and coriander spices. Very herbal in smelling-notes. A sweet malty beer, by flavor, with a bitter after taste. But not at all over-bearing. If anything, this is a wonderful, wonderful example of a weisse. Very earthy and herby in flavor. Overall, I'm not a huge fan of the banana and coriander flavor (reminds me of a revved up Local 1), but a delicious example of the weizenbock. If you got the extra bucks, try it out: decide for yourself.

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Photo of biggmike
4.7/5  rDev +12.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Got a bottle of this courtesy of my brother. Poured a cloudy orange color with extremely fluffy white head that hangs around forever. Aroma is dominated by the hops and is very inviting. Flavor is initially spicey with hints of banana (my brother picked up on the bubblegum but I didnt) and finishes with a perfect hop balance. Mouthfeel is great. This is extremely drinkable and I would recommend trying if you get a chance.

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Photo of Walken
4.57/5  rDev +9.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Brooklyn/Shneider Hopfen-Weisse (Tasted 08/03/08)
750 ml. bottle: poured into a tulip.

Appearance: Pours out cloudy orange with an uncontrollable bubbly head that leaves solid rings of lacing as it fades down.
Odor: Oh man, this is heaven. Layer of juicy, vibrant citrus from the Palisade and Amarillo hops, underneath that there's banana, bubblegum and spice from the yeast. I'm definitely picking up a bit of grassiness in the background from the Amarillo dry hops.
Consistency: Firm, medium body with a healthy amount of carbonation. Feels very smooth with a little bit of acidity and alcohol poking through.
Flavor: Spices hit first and stay strong throughout, semi-tart wheat flavors join in as the hop flavors begin to come out more, grassy with a bit of sweet citrus, providing a firm bitterness to balance, though the spice from the yeast is doing an ok job on it's own. Some fruity alcohol flashes in and out. Finish is spicy and grassy with some hop oil coating on the palate.

An interesting, somewhat experimental beer that's dangerously drinkable, I'd love to see this as a year-round or/rotating release.

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Photo of Sammy
3.58/5  rDev -14.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

German grassy hoppiness and long-lasting enormous head. Average plus mouthfeel. Drying. Wheat, citrus.I don't think I enjoyed this as much as the S-B version, but maybe a bomber was too much.I have liked several weizen bocks more than this.A strong Hefeweizen, cloves, some bannana.

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Photo of GatorBeerNerd
4.6/5  rDev +10%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A: Poured into a Paulaner Hefe glass. It has a 3 inch or better thick head that is very frothy and clings to the glass all thw way down. There is a constant supply of carbonation bubbles that come up from the bottom of the glass. It is a beautiful light golden color. It is almost a picture perfect beer.

S: I can not think of a better smelling wheat beer that I have had. There is a great aroma of wheat malts mixed in with a banana aroma. There is a hint of hop aroma as well. It is very pleasing to the nose.

T: Outstanding! I didn't know wheat beers could have this much flavor. The banana, wheat, and hops are balanced perfectly in this beer. The hops leave the mouth slightly dry as its swallowed which is a departure from what I recall from any wheat based beer. This is an excellent brew.

M: The beer is a medium thickness and the carbonation makes it creamy and feel thicker than just the liquid. It is enjoyable to roll it on the tongue. The carbonation seems to be very high, but it is not aggressive at all.

D: The only thing that makes this one slightly less from a drinkability perspective is the ABV. It goes down easy and it tastes fantastic.

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Photo of Atron67
3.85/5  rDev -7.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

750 ml bottle, pretty expensive at 12 or so for it.
100 % bottle conditioned which i now understand, but not really 'getting' it.

A- huge fluffy head, accidentally caused some foaming over when i tried to stir up the yeast to get it in the first glass, ohh well that was my fault, but its apparently pretty highly carbonated. amber golden color, huge fluffy head, light stickiness down the glass, head lasted forever.

S- big cloves, pretty light hops on top. very citrusy hops anyway which is nice, gives a good complement to the cloves and wheat scents, normally im not a fan of the mix but this is pretty good.

T- strong wheaty character, full of phenolic and clove flavors, subdued bananna character, citrusy character near the end, and a lingering yeastiness.

M- full body and a strong carbonation. sticky yeastiness on the tongue

D- pretty solid, very smooth and drinkable, very flavorfull, but idk im missing a spark.

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Photo of beerphilosopher
3.47/5  rDev -17%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured a semi-opaque medium gold color, almost like an apple cider. Thin, off-white head and spotty lacing in the glassware. The nose is surprisingly hoppy up front with wheat malt accents all the way through. Both herbal and fruity notes abound here - banana and sour citrus. The palate threw me for a loop - is this a weizenbock or is this an IPA? Perhaps it's both. By far, the most hop-dominant hefe-style beer I've ever sampled, but as assertive as the hops are here the beer yields to a more balanced wheat character that is true of a Bavarian weizen. The sweet malt and the floral hops play off of each other quite well here, making for a very complex and unusual palate. The mouth feel is rather thick, but off-set by the astringency of the hops leaving a dry finish with lingering herbal notes and spice. What a beer. A very unusual combination of flavors going on here ... like a highly hopped pale ale infused with a Bavarian Dunkel Hefe. This is a classification challenging beer all the way. All in all, it works for me.

If you can get your hands on this German-American gem, you won't be disappointed. Satisfy your desire for two beer at once!

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Photo of Gueuzedude
4.12/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle Number 0668; Sampled August 2008
A fairly careful pour into my 25cl tulip glass still produces a three-finger thick, pale tan colored head. The head has a very fluffy texture to it and it leaves a nice amount of lacing on the sides of my glass. The beer is a hazy, light amber hue that still shows a hazy, orange tinged, gold color when held up to the light. The aroma is quite vibrantly spicy with hop notes, but is still quite obviously a Hefeweizen too. Aromas of tropical fruit, ripe apricot and a spicy herbal note from the hops are backed by significant clove phenols as well as a touch of fruity banana that lies just underneath. Other notes of lemon zest, pale-whole-grain cracker notes, and a fresh crushed wheat aroma. I really like the mix of spicy notes that come from both the Palisade hops and the fermentation character; huge woody pepper aromatics, perhaps a touch of sweet pickled ginger, a touch rosemary / menthol.

Fairly sweet tasting, but much of this is accentuated by the fruity hop character that provides notes of bergamot, apricot and lots of tangelo. The ample hop flavors that are packed into this beer also provide flavors of minty pine, light herbal notes and a significant, herbal leaning bitterness. In the flavor the hop character is a lot more noticeable than it was in the aroma; how this is really manifest is that the Weizen flavors are a bit muted under the hop character. Traditional Weizen notes of clove are certainly the most prominent, but there is also a nice fresh wheat character that both adds texture and flavor, a touch of tartness typical of the style can also be noticed and there is just a hint of banana that seems to be noticeable in the lingering finish. This is quite well carbonated, but the viscous body does a good job of hiding this fact; really though the ample carbonation does a good job of balancing out the medium-heft that this beer has, such that this remains fairly quaffable (the hop character also seems to help with this too). This can get a little hot in the finish at times with a mix of spicy phenolics and higher alcohols, but it doesn't seem to detract too much.

Quite tasty and I really like the vibrant hop character, despite it drowning out the yeast character a bit. This certainly retains the refreshing wheat character that is typical of a Hefeweizen; speaking of which, I really do see this as more of a strong Hefeweizen than a Weizenbock, as I usually associate that last with being darker and richer.

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Photo of hooliganlife
4.05/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

served in a proper weiss glass. pours a clear amber, not as much head as a typical hefe. light banana flavor. semi sweet and is subtle enough to really enjoy. mouthfeel is my favorite aspect of this beer. i have had both this version and the schneider and this is hands down the winner. I would say overall, its sweeter and more defined.

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Photo of BuckeyeNation
4.45/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Blurry banana with a tangerine tint. The aged ivory colored cap looks like it belongs on a Belgian ale. It has fantastic texture and is a lace generator of the highest order. Not only does the beer look great, but the bottle and label are incredibly classy as well. Eye candy all around.

The nose is great on first sniff. And second. And third. The beer smells like an especially estery Belgian pale ale that uses American hops. What a great concept! Specifics: fresh pineapple, banana, bubblegum and a dash of musky clove. It's still only late in the first quarter, but so far Brooklyn-Schneider is kicking Schneider-Brooklyner's ass from one sideline to the other.

If you're forced to choose only one, this version of Hopfen-Weisse is clearly superior. In fact, it's so superior that it makes me think that something happened to the Schneider-Brooklyner beer on the way to the party. Amarillo and Palisade hops are better choices than Hallertau, but that can't be it. Hans-Peter Drexler and Garrett Oliver are both talented brewers, so that can't be it either.

This is an amazingly fruity weizenbock. I prefer the darker versions of the style, but this one is damn good. As with all world-class beer of this style, it's dripping with complexity. Every one of the above fruits is present on the palate, along with spiced peaches and white pepper.

Alcohol is barely noticed, other than the fact that it provides a subtle warming sensation that starts in the stomach and gradually radiates out to the fingertips. The mouthfeel needs a Belgian brewer's touch for the next highest score to be a consideration. On a positive note, it's built for speed and is begging me to put the hammer down. Buckle up!

After the less than spectacular Schneider-Brooklyner Hopfen-Weisse, little was expected from this Brooklyner-Schneider version. Wrong again and gladly so. This is lip smackingly delicious, gloriously drinkable beer that every BA owes it to himself or herself to acquire. Highly recommended.

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Photo of aubuc1
4.32/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 25.4 oz bottle in to a goblet.

Pours a hazy light golden color with a thin but steady white head.

Smell is bursting out of very light banana and a crisp malt.

Taste is sharp banana and clove without being too much banana.

Nice carbonation creates a nice mouthfeel and an easy drinking wheat beer.

Not let down by high expectations.

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Photo of Beertracker
4.47/5  rDev +6.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Brooklyner & Schneider Hopfen-Weisse pours up lively with a fluffy white head that sits craggily over the slightly hazy honey blonde-deep golden color. Very effervescent with excellent head retention! The fully ripened fruitiness (apricot, orange-banana, tropical fruit) and floral spiciness from the hops create a wonderfully inviting nose that compliments the wheatberry bread character nicely. There's some perceivable alcohol in the background. The grainy maltiness has just a touch of caramel sweetness and plenty of Munich toastiness that's marked by a moderate bitterness that brings about a firm, off-dry finish. The surreptitious alcohol warms the cheeks towards the bottom of the glass and makes this one nearly ethereal. This is a truly wonderful hoppy little weizenbock that delivers something for hop & malt lovers. Highly recommended. Here's to the "Beer Matadors" of Garrett Oliver & Hans-Peter Drexler and their fine collaboration.

Hopfen und Malz, Gott erhalt's!
PROST! Beertracker

*Taster's Note: Many thanks to kplynch for the bottle.

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Photo of baos
4.42/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Corked bottle into Barilla spaghetti sauce jar.

A: Translucent amber-straw hue. Smaller head than I was expecting: 2 fingers that sticks around really well at about a half a finger. Very nice looking with plenty of lace.

S: Perfect! Candy-sugared-bananas-and-pink-bubblegum-yumminess!

T: Pink bubble gum-clove-banana with a nice hop presence. Raisins and dried apricot characteristics. I believe this is my first Weizenbock. I get clover-honey-comb bitter-sweetness with candy sugar hints as well. Very nice.

M: About as good as it gets, if it were a tad bit creamy-thicker I'd giver her a five.

D: This big bottle could easily be followed by another, but I think that would be it for me... A great beer!

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Photo of WesWes
4.42/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

The beer pours a hazy gold color with a thick frothy white head that slowly fades to lacing. The aroma is awesome. It has a dry and earthy pale and wheat malt scent along with some hefe yeast esters and a mild hop aroma. The taste is great also. It has a very smooth hefe flavor with some dry, fruity clove notes. The hop character really makes this beer. It stands out and grabs you; very nice. The mouthfeel is good. It is a full bodied beer with adequate/good carbonation. This is a tremendous beer. I've been waiting for some time now to try it. Thanks goes out to the boys down at Knightly Spirits for the opportunity. Recommended!!

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Photo of aerozeppl
4.48/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Much better than it was on tap. The bottle conditioning did this beer well.

A: Nice deep golden color. Pitch perfect 2 fingers of white head. Simply awesome looking in a weizen glass.

S: Interesting mix of wheat and hops. and then hops and flowers. Totally singular. The only this close is the DE version.

T: Bitter from the hops and sweetness from the wheat. Totally different than anything else out there. Little bit boozy as it warms but it works.

M: Very smooth with subtle carbonation.

D: On tap it was good in the bottle it was great.

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Photo of Onibubba
4.2/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Nice dark golden, but surprisingly clear pour. Head remains frothy with good retention. Appearance is the first big difference I notice from this and the other version. This beer remains unclouded.

Smells of hoppy banana bread are pleasantly mild. Faint clovey / allspice notes. Hoppiness is more assertive in the taste, but never overpowering, allowing other aspects of the beer to assert themselves. Mouthfeel is good, and alcohol is negligable, making this a very manageable beer.

I think I prefer this to the Schneider version. It seems a much "cleaner" beer. If you liked the yeasty dark swirl generally lingering around by the second pour of the Schneider, you will not find that here. This is much more balanced, though less "unique" experience than the Schneider version.

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Photo of HappyHourHero
4.62/5  rDev +10.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

The american hops are evident in the aroma along with a bit of sugary bubble gum. A gentle pour produces a large tan head. Lot's of lace as the head fades slowly into the hazy peach colored beer. Sweet flavor, low in carbonation, with a hopy finish mixed with a good dose of alcohol that warms the stomach. This is one hearty beer. It's got the bubble gum sweetness of a weizen, but also a malty sweetness , alcohol, and the bite of a IIPA. Quite tasty no matter what you call it. I wonder if it will be brewed again...

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Photo of Moxley
3.5/5  rDev -16.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A - Poured from a bomber into a small pilsner glass. Cloudy apricot with a foamy ½ inch head that stuck around to the end of the tasting. Sheet-like lacing.

S - Lots of wheat and apricot in the nose, with a slight floral sweetness

T - Standard wheat beer flavor up front, reminiscent of Duvel, but this beer has a hoppy bite on the finish.

M&D - Smooth, full-bodied wheat beer with a slightly sticky mouthcoating on the finish. Alcohol warmth in my chest towards the middle of the tasting.

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Photo of clayrock81
4.12/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a weizen glass and received a dark gold, see thru body that gave a three-finger head thanks to massive carbonation and also left some sticky lace patches. An immense hop smell with heavy citric notes such as lemon, and orange peel along with some pepper and clove. I also picked up some mild apple, pear and caramel malts smells. The first thing that hit me was the malts, as a semi-sweet caramel malt that contained some stickiness struck the sides of my mouth. Also tasted a hop blast of citric notes with a drying backbite. Along the way I tasted some butterscotch, roasted malts and caramel/sour apple. I'd love to have this again but it is a little expensive.

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Photo of bkilpatr
4.5/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a 750 ml bottle into a weizen glass. 08/12/08. Bottle and label both look very elegant. Corked & caged, cork came out with a loud pop.

Pours a slightly cloudy pale golden orange color. A moderate pour produced a beautiful four finger soft beige head. The head dropped slowly to a thin layer and left some nice lacing. Looks well-carbonated, with a steady stream of rising bubbles. Aroma is amazing. Lots of citrus (orange, lemon), banana, wheat, clove, and fairly hoppy.

Taste is equally impressive. A generous amount of hops, along with plenty of wheat character. Lots of citrus flavor - orange, lemon, coriander. Some clove and pepper and other spice as well. A bit of banana flavor as it warms. It's like a hoppy wheat beer. Really tasty!

Feel is also very good. It has a medium body and is well-carbonated. Not too much, but enough to keep it very lively and bubbly. Fairly clean finish as well. Drinkability is good as well. The alcohol is well hidden and it really goes down nicely. I'd keep drinking this all night if I could.

This really is an excellent take on the style. I'm really digging these collaboration beers. My only gripe on this one is the price (I paid ~$13 for 750 ml). I definitely recommend this one.

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Photo of MuenchenerKindl
3.88/5  rDev -7.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a huge c&c'd mag to a tall glass the liquid id a cloudy gold with good carbonation. The head was small a just 2 fingers, off white and left some lace. I was expecting a bit more but still quite good.

The smell was mild, some light fruit, banana, sweet apple and pear along with a bit of yeast.

The taste was good well refined but not quite as bold as I thought id should be. I was looking for a bit more spice and banana. What I got was a solid Weizenbock too be sure just not as pronounced and intense to truly stand out.

The mouthfeel was big and thick with ok carbonation.

The drinkability was good a fine offering and something the style lover should try. Prosit, MK

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Brooklyner-Schneider Hopfen-Weisse from Brooklyn Brewery
Beer rating: 4.18 out of 5 with 432 ratings
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