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Brooklyn Brewery
New York, United States

Style: Belgian Strong Dark Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 9.00%

Availability: Rotating

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Photo of stageseven
3.31/5  rDev -17.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

The beer poured a deep, murky brown with reddish highlights. It's head was a dirty brown color, 2-3 fingers thick, and frothy. The head had good retention, sticking around for quite a while, and leaving some lacing on the glass.

The smell was fairly complex, and predominantly wild and sweet. There was a tart smell, apple cider and spice that dominated the nose at first. It then gave way to more grassy aromas - hay and other sweet plant smells, with a hint of flowers underneath. The smell of honey comes through as well. Even though it says it was brewed with citrus and honey, I didn't notice any citrusy smells, although it could have been masked by one of the other aromas.

The taste was initially round and sweet, with some of the hay flavors coming through as well. I didn't notice citrus in the taste either, so it made me wonder what exactly was going on with that. Still the smell was a fairly good indicator of the flavors of the beer, and I got some apple in the taste. The one major surprise was the moderate level of bitterness present in the back of the mouth, leaving a rounded bitter aftertaste that sticks with you for a while. However, there was a disturbing medicinal flavor, possibly from the honey, possibly from the alcohol, but it sat just around the edges of the flavor and reminded me of vicks vapo-rub or minty breath spray. I tried to ignore it and just enjoy the beer, but it kept getting in the way for me.

In the mouth the beer sits somewhat thick, round, and heavy. It's got a substantial feel to it. The carbonation is moderately high, but round rather than sharp. I found the carbonation a little distracting as I drank the beer, and I felt like this was contributing to the medicinal flavor somehow. The beer was on the wet side, and at first was warming from the alcohol, especially in the throat.

I felt that this brew was a little bit of a chore to get down. It's disappointing because I had such high hopes for it. There were definitely some very good aspects to the flavor, but between the high carbonation and the medicinal quality I had a hard time focusing on them. The sweetness was a little cloying, and the bitterness although unexpected did not offset it quite enough for my tastes. As the glass progresses it gets a bit better as the carbonation drops off some. I really enjoyed the wildness in the aroma and flavor too. All in all it's decent, but not one I'd go out of my way for. The balance just seems off.

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Photo of mikereaser
3.31/5  rDev -17.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Poured from a 750 ml bottle on 12/1/09

A - Pours a deep mahogany brown with an inch of foam that slowly disappeared

S - yeast and peppery aroma, some brown sugar and berries

T - malty, berries at first, then dark fruit, plums, raisins, brown sugar

M - good carbonation, smooth, slightly creamy

D - good flavor, a bit sweet, but nice array of flavors

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Photo of SierraFlight
3.31/5  rDev -17.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

750 ml bottle poured into shaker pint. Billowing tan head settles to a thin layer atop hazy iced tea colored liquid. Minimal lacing. Aroma is subtle, fig, bread, citrus, and dark fruit. Taste is stronger with citrus, malt, caramel, and honey sweetness followed by a slight floral bitterness. Medium body, creamy texture, high fizzy but soft carbonation, and a sweet finish.

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Photo of teromous
3.32/5  rDev -17.6%
look: 5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

The bottle is very cool looking, and will be a keeper. It has an old-world feel with raised lettering.

A: This thing has a huge head. A perfect billowy light-tan colored head with so much fluff, it might as well be whipped cream. The beer is a darker shade of brown when poured, and nearly black in the glass.

S: This has a familiar Belgian smell to it..hard to describe but it's a bit fruity and slightly malty smelling. There is a slight floral scent as well.

T: I get roasted notes right off the bat...some very light coffee flavors. It doesn't have a big flavor to it...I get a slight hint of what tastes like a date. It's not as strong in flavor or as complex as many other Belgian beers, but it's still pretty good.

M: The mouthfeel is light, bordering on medium. It is a smooth beer with great carbonation.

O: Overall I thought it was a pretty good beer, but it seems very light on flavor. Most Belgian strong beers pack a punch of flavor and let me know they're there. This one lingers like a wallflower. It's not a bad's probably more of a gateway beer for people who want to move on to stronger Belgian beers. I wouldn't say that it's an average beer for its style, but overall the beer is above average for beers in general.

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Photo of KajII
3.32/5  rDev -17.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

[Best served in a Trappist glass]

The pour was a clear medium brown with an average (1-2 finger) light brown frothy head that did not have the greatest retention, reducing to a puddled film and had good streaky lacing.

The aroma was of a nutty dark bread malt, a mild funky Belgian yeast and a very slight hint of floral hops with notes of citrus (orange), honey, chocolate, dark fruit (overripe grapes and plums), and clove.

The taste was a little acidic and mildly sweet with notes of citrus and honey and a mild malty dark roast undertone at first, and then became lightly bitter and a tad yeasty with hints of chocolate, dark fruit and had a mildly spicy alcohol finish. The flavor lasted an average duration following the swallow, with a mild spicy yeast taste left behind along with a slight alcohol warming sensation.

Mouthfeel was between light and medium in body with an oily texture and a nice lively carbonation.

Overall I found this to be a nice smooth and easy to drink brew, although I do think it could have been a little more flavorful for a Belgian Style Strong Ale...

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Photo of AgentMunky
3.33/5  rDev -17.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.5

This is a strange sort of beer, but a good one. A 750mL bottle poured into a wine glass.

A: Mahogany dark. Light head. Vague head.

S: Not the best. Sweet lager.

T: Spicy and Belgian, Pretty cool. Lots of fruit, And Belgian yeast I guess. YUM.

O: Overall drinkability is excellent.

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Photo of far333
3.38/5  rDev -16.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Served in a crytal snifter. Semi-opaque mahogany colored with an inch high thick head of foam that settles out to a finely bubbled cap. Very low, almost imperceptible aroma of toasty malt and pear. Flavors of toasted malt, hints of cocoa, ripe fruit and marshmallow. Slightly metallic in the finish, some clove and plum lingers, along with a subtle bitterness. Crisp and clean mouthfeel, but somewhat full. Decent beer overall, but I was expecting more depth.

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Photo of WoodBrew
3.38/5  rDev -16.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 3.5

From Notes of a Recent Beer Tasting Party.

Someone brought teh Local 1 and Local 2 to teh beer tasting party that we have about once a quarter. The Local 2 color was a dark amber with a lot of carbonation which led to good white head. The nose had hints of brown sugar/honey and dark fruit. The taste was very sweet dark fruit honey to start then turn dry and very punchy. The mouthfeel is hurt somewhat by the high abv and heavy carbonation. Overall a decent beer.

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Photo of Amalak
3.38/5  rDev -16.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

I had at d.b.a. in Brooklyn out of a bottle during a tasting. It had a dark brown/red color. It was fairly opaque with some head and lacing. It had a metallic scent with an alcoholly taste.

It has a very fruity, citrusy taste. High in alcohol, with a bitter fruit taste. Dry and honey based. It's quality.

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Photo of kojevergas
3.39/5  rDev -15.9%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Bottle into La Chouffe goblet in low altitude Galway, Ireland.

A: Three finger head of fair cream and thickness. Dark pinkish red (look at it and you'll know).

Sm: Fresh estery berry hops. Very floral. Nice and complex.

T: Complex body with very dark floral/berry taste, slight caramel, a bit of alcohol, and a resurgence of berry in the finish. Maybe caramel, but it's too complex to discern. Slight cream at the end.

Mf: Nicely coarse, maybe a bit too much. Adequately dry, but muddy. Doesn't hit the mark in either category. It strikes a nice carbonation balance, however.

Dr: It hides its high ABV well, but it's too pricey by Irish standards to consider buying again. Maybe it's more affordable stateside (I think I can safely guarantee it).

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Photo of RedChrome
3.4/5  rDev -15.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A very dark brown opaque brew. A light tan head over 3 inches faded over a few minutes. Lots of tiny bubbles rising rapidly at the edges. Thick soapy clumps of lace.

Very strong roasted note to the malt. Burnt bread coated a dark fruit. Plums and dates are primary fruit scents. A minor backing of alcohol heat.

Plum taste hit first on the tongue, and had a bit of a candy sugar coating to it. A sweet citrus taste reminded me of Sprite. Nothing to suggest any bitterness at all on the tongue.

A bit watery on the surfaces, especially based on it's appearance. Carbonation a bit overwhelming.

An O.K. beer. I am stumped as to what this would pair well with. A bit of a let down from a good brewery. May mellow out with some age.

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Photo of spacebear09
3.4/5  rDev -15.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Appearance- Blackish brew, slightly watery. Tan head.

Smell- Prunes, dates, molasses, licorice, booze.

Taste- Dark malts, spice, brown sugar, finishes slightly dry.

Mouthfeel- Smooth yet well carbonated. Creamy for a Belgian strong dark ale.

Overall- Has a aftertaste that reminds me of Guinness (not good... slightly metallic and nasty chocolate malts that have no business being in this kind of beer, also a hint of something gross).

Really disappointing. I was expecting a top notch Belgian strong dark and instead was treated to something barely mediocre. Trois Pistoles is much cheaper and trumps this beer HANDS DOWN 10/10 times.

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Photo of TK5150
3.42/5  rDev -15.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

A- Pours a murky orange/brown with a beige head

S- Candied orange peel with a little sweet smelling caramel and honey. Belgian yeasty spiciness finishes off the nose.

T- Malty sweetness, with some honey. A little orange.

M- A full medium body. Fairly smooth yet highly carbonated.

D- Pretty good drinkability, especially for a 9% beer.

Overall, a pretty good beer. Nothing to write home about.

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Photo of BDTyre
3.43/5  rDev -14.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Decent Belgian SDA. Very dark coffee colour with a really foamy head that settles quite quickly but never really disappears. It looks almost like cola.

Tart, slightly sugar scent almost like apple juice. Definitely a whiff of the orange peel in there. Very faint honey notes.

Belgian dark sugar, orange peel and suggestions of honey, apple and raisin. Not as complex as I had expect, but not bad. Sometimes seems a bit one-sided, with only one flavour really coming through.

A bit flat after letting it warm, despite the initial vigourous head. A nice beer, but the bottle size really stops me from wanting to drink anything else.

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Photo of Ego
3.44/5  rDev -14.6%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

crackling almost roller coaster head rises up and calms quickly like a tranquil dart in the rump of some unruly child, dark brown hue with good head retention, more legs than lacing which speaks to the ABV here. overall pretty much on par for the style.

musty but not bret, moldy dark fruit, faint hint o' booze, some malty sweetness is floating around, some bananas foster notes as well, interesting.

taste etc...
there is a stunning, almost bracing immediate sweetness here that is almost like berries ? The carbonation hides the wave for a second, gladly this strange barrage does not linger (if it did this might be undrinkable), now a little more ready I delve in for another sip, this brings a little more balance of some molasses in the after taste, the beer certainly has a good weight to it, not quite heavy but not light. The booze makes itself known with some slight warming as you are sipping. The berry flavor is flattening out now, morphing into a cola-esque flavor still kind of strange for the style. very easy drinking for the ABV here...

This one has me at a loss.. not sure if this was just an attempt or just something gone wrong. It isn't swill, it is rather interesting, but that doesn't make it for me in this case.

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Photo of BethanyB
3.45/5  rDev -14.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 2 | overall: 3.5

Look: An opaque dark brown, with a huge, foamy, light tan head. Dark orange highlights can be seen at the bottom of the glass when held to the light.

Smell: The aroma is fainter than expected. Yeasty malt, floral hops, peppery phenols, and a swirl of caramel are pleasant enough, but lack the dark fruit flavors usually found in a strong, dark ale.

Taste: While the flavor is more complex than the aroma, it remains lacking. The taste is light for a big beer, and is unusually malt-forward for the style. In addition to yeasty malt, citrus hops, caramel, and prunes can be tasted. While the dark fruit is now detectable, it could still have a larger presence.

Mouthfeel: The medium-light body only makes the aroma and flavor seem more two-dimensional. A watery character and an all too smooth finish continue the too-light-for-the-style trend.

Overall: As a strong dark ale, this beer disappoints. It's perfectly tasty and drinkable, but could be much more so with a heavier body and more complex aroma and flavor profiles. There are a plethora of far better options available when it comes to this type of beer.

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Photo of BMoney575
3.46/5  rDev -14.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Sampled on 11-3-10
3579 stamped on the bottle

Pours a very deep and cloudy brown color, with an awesome tan head that gets thicker and thicker. Lacing is just a fe bubbles that quickly follow the head.

Smell is very Belgian, slightly sour, with aromas of cloves and dark fruit. The booze adds an edge of complexity, and even a little fruity hops and coffee bitterness come in at the end.

Taste is what the smell leads you to, dark fruit and caramel malt, but much thinner than I expected. The alcohol is sweet and astringent, the finish is slick, with just a hint of Belgian.

Mouthfeel is hard to describe. The head is creamy but the beer seems thin.

Drinkability is decent, but the flavor just doesn't do it.

Overall, a decent beer, but nothing special.

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Photo of PhillyStyle
3.48/5  rDev -13.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Batch 3518 (?)

750ml bottle, caged and corked, 9% ABV

The beer appeared a cola color with a big, fairly thick off-white head that was well retained and eventually faded into a small cap that lasted throughout the beer.

Aroma was good, sweet from the Belgian sugar and dark fruit, a hint of citrus was noted, possibly orange, and spices. Also, a touch of alcohol was noticeable as the beer warmed.

The taste was average. Bready and a light malt flavor are dominate, dark fruit and spices. For me it did not seem that the beer was all that well balanced and the taste seemed kind of light. Not at all what I expected from this great brewery.

The beer had a good feel to it, medium body, and good active carbonation.

Drinkability is good. The beer was smooth and overall the beer was pretty easy to drink with a nice dry finish, but since the taste was a little light, it made it a little less enjoyable. Also, I think that I discovered that this is certainly not one of my favorite styles, as compared to the Local 1.

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Photo of jujubeast6000
3.48/5  rDev -13.6%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Reviewed 1/12/2010 (Bottle):

Pours a dark reddish brown color body, big fluffy head, off-white, lasting. Berklgiany floral aroma, sweet. Honey. Floral taste, very light, carbonated sweet taste. Like light liquid honey. Strong honey taste. Somewhat heavy feel. Good but a little heavy for my taste.

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Photo of treehugger02010
3.48/5  rDev -13.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

I got a bottle of this at the Foodery in Philadelphia, PA. I poured it into a goblet.
A: The body is a deep browncolor. The head is freaking huge, a light tan color, fine retention, great lacing and big size bubbles. This is terribly carbonated. I didn't even have to finish taking the cage off before the cork poped and hit the sealing.
S: The aromas are roasted, sweet honey and liquorish.
T: The flavors are a bit sour, roasted caramel and chocolate.
M: The mouthfeel is thin.
D: This is a good beer.
Don't drink and review.

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Photo of adamette
3.48/5  rDev -13.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Live review. Poured from the 1 pint 9.4 fl. oz. bottle that I purchased at Heinen's in Mayfield Village a few weeks ago into my Cooperstown Beverage Trail clean clear pint glass. Batch 3518 printed on back label.

A Pours a pleasing dark brown body with a light brown head lasting a good three minutes and then some. Close inspection of the head revealed a very cool effect: hundreds of bubbles stack on top of each other like so many ball bearings.

S Sweet malt and Belgian yeasts with some honey and maybe some light raisin smell. Yum.

T Thin sweet malt taste with the bite of some yeast and perhaps some hops as well. There is a dark caramel, almost chocolate taste as well. Fairly true to the style, the yeast driving home the Belgian heritage of the style. Edit: There is a very distant (I mean like 20 minutes after last sip) taste of honey that I appreciate. I increased my taste rating from 3.0 to 3.5 for this alone.

M Full with moderately high ABV and dark sweet malt tastes. That being said it is a bit thinner and more watery than other great Belgian Strong Dark Ales. It lacks the pleasing syrupy sweet malt taste (and feel I suppose) of the best of the Belgian Strong Dark Ales. It is also not as strong as better Belgian Strong Dark Ales.

D Good but not compared to others in this style. Gulden Draak is an example of a BSDA with more "umphh" behind it.

Notes: A nice addition to the Brooklyn lineup but the thin malt and yeasty aftertaste makes it more like a Pale Ale that happens to be dark in appearance. I have to say that I am dissapointed in this beer because I was so looking forward to it. I remember enjoying Local 1 and then I heard that this was coming out..and BSDA is one of my favorite styles...perhaps I built it up too much in my mind but count me dissapointed.

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Photo of psurandy
3.49/5  rDev -13.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a very deep brownish maroon with a beautiful thick head. I don't get a whole lot on the nose, but I do get some dark fruit and brown sugar. Taste is good, but I am a bit underwhelmed by the flavor as I was expecting a lot due to the fact that I really enjoyed Local 1. I am getting some fig, date and candied sugars but I'm just not tasting much complexity or layers of flavor. The carbonation and mouthfeel is nice and the drinkability is on par for the style. This is a good beer, but I've had better of this style.

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Photo of peterjk
3.5/5  rDev -13.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured for a 750 into a Belgian Goblet.

A: Red Brown with light brown head, surprisingly only a hint of cloudyness

S: Nutmeg, Ginger, Yeast, Floral, hints of sweeter darker notes

T: Cold: Dough, Yeast, Finish is long with Spice and tangy sweetness. A touch of hops bitterness, hints of roasted malt, cola sweetness.

The sweetnees emerges more as the beer warms up but the flavor is still dominated by dry herbal and bitter flavors.

M: Lots of small bubble carbonation foam fills the mouth. Medium bodied.

D: This is not a bad beer by any means but I prefer the Brooklyn Local 1 for sure. For me this beer is to dry and herbal, great in a golden sassion but not so much in a double. I was looking for a more pronounced sweetness and roasted malt character.

This beer reminded me some of Orval, but with out the wild yeast esters and tartness.

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Photo of ProudBeerSnob
3.5/5  rDev -13.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

Beeneaning to try this one for a time now. Poured into 3 Philosophers goblet. Nice cloudy orange-mahogany color. Nice head that dissipates but not completely.

Aromas of fruity (plums?) very dry in the nose. Tastes of plum and raisin but a bit too sweet for the style IMO.

Good for the price. I wonder if a bit of age would round out the sweetness...

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Photo of BuckeyeNation
3.5/5  rDev -13.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Dark ochre with generous orange peel highlights and abundant bubbles. The golden beige hued head is soft and airy and unsticky, with an almost featureless upper surface. Looks like Brooklyn Brewery needs a lesson in Belgian-style ale head and lace creation. With respect to the latter, very little makes it to the glass.

The aroma isn't deep, rich, dark or powerful. It's a little on the tart-n-tangy side (unripe figs) which doesn't bode well for the flavor. The best BSDAs have some of the greatest noses in all of beerdom. This one is disappointing... and improves a bit by the bottom of the bottle.

Brooklyn Local 2 tastes better than it smells. It still isn't the cat's pajamas, but it might open up and complexify with warming. Even though they shouldn't have much to do with the flavor profile, too many sharp-edged bubbles aren't helping. I'm starting to think that bottle conditioning is more miss than hit. Too quiet early and too boisterous after a bit of aging.

The flavor profile falls on the lighter Belgian brown ale side of the BSDA spectrum rather than the darker Belgian stout side. Specific flavors include toasted brown bread, a few chocolate shavings, sugared pecans, lemon zest and plenty of clove and black pepper. No hint of the wildflower honey.

Additional positives are good sweet-bitter balance and well-buried alcohol. The hop bill includes Perle, Aurora and East Kent Goldings. In truth, little hop flavor is appreciated. Not a problem, given the style. Warming helps to some extent, but it doesn't turn an above average BSDA into a really good BSDA.

The body/mouthfeel score could just as easily been lower. It doesn't have the silky smooth expansive creaminess of the best Belgian ales (few American-brewed Belgian-styles ales do) and the initially harsh carbonation hasn't eased much in the 15 minutes since cork extraction.

My hope was that Local 2 would be better than Local 1. It isn't. Although I have a great deal of respect for Garrett Oliver, the unfortunate truth is that Brooklyn Brewery beer is oftentimes less than impressive when compared to the best that American craft beer has to offer.

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Brooklyn Local 2 from Brooklyn Brewery
4.03 out of 5 based on 1,403 ratings.
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