Ongelovige Thomas | Jopen Bier BV Haarlem

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Jopen Bier BV Haarlem

Style: Quadrupel (Quad)

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 10.00%

Availability: Rotating

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Added by Jeffo on 05-30-2011

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Reviews: 13 | Ratings: 51
Photo of JimTeal
5/5  rDev +23.2%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Wonderful find at Arendsnest Pub in Amsterdam. After a month of beer touring Europe, the best was last. Also known as "Doubting Thomas", this is superb bier, from the Dutch who are best known for Heineken, Jopen has a champion with Ongelovige Thomas. The first sip is almost a religious awakening of the mouth. Perfectly balanced, hints of caramel, butter and dry-sweet, yes I said it, this is both, with a powerful alcohol kick camouflaged deep within such a sublime mouth shock. Like it's neighbor from Belgium, Gulden Draak, this fine brew gets better by the sip, almost to the point of melancholy staring at an empty glass. I can go on with obvious comparisons at the top of BA's Top 50 list, but until you've experienced this Dutch treat keep a spot on your Top list available.

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Photo of schuim
4.85/5  rDev +19.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.75

Unfiltered dark brown Quad. Aroma of dark malts, soft ripe fruit and warming caramel tones. a taste that is very rich and full. Nice balance between a big malty beer and USA hops at the end of the taste. red fruit and caramel sauce. nice cross over between a Belgian Quad with USA hop style.

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Photo of Mar02x
4.47/5  rDev +10.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

I just picked up a bottle at the Mitra liquor store. I seemed interesting to me, because of the style. Not so many breweries from Holland attempted to brew a quadruple.

A – The appearance of the beer is quite red. The head is decent and light brown in color. The foam sticks to the glass like glue, very nice to watch.

S – Floral and pine up front mixed with some citrus, very nice and inviting.

T – A soft hoppy taste together with some nice sweetness; nutty, dry raisins and candy sugar.

M – Very nice, slightly sticking to my palate. Soft to medium carbonation with a soft bitterness in the end.

O – What I like most about this beer is the amount of courage that the brewer has put in. Its like a mix in styles; a double IPA and a quadruple. The taste is there fore quite extraordinary.

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Photo of Joopjoop
4.25/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

I am honored to carry the same name as this brewery, because they have made a lasting impression with Ongelovige Thomas.

The combination of a Quadrupel-like base with a roasty Stout/Porter aroma and DIPA-ish hop finish is an admirable goal in and of itself, but the execution is damn near perfect in this brew.

It combines the best of these three styles and leaves you wanting more (as opposed to some DIPAs or quadrupels which are just too heavy).

*When i get my hands on another bottle (or a couple) I'll try to give a little more detailed description as I'm typing this from memory.

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Photo of Dentist666
4.17/5  rDev +2.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Pours hazy bourgundy with 2 finger golden head, nice retention. Smell - lollipop, apple, caramel, citrusy hops. Taste - candy sugar, dark fruits, caramel. Nice hop finish. Excellent beer for sipping.

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Photo of Takahiro
4/5  rDev -1.5%

A: brown, with tanned and thick foam, lingering and leaving lace
S: caramel, yeasty
T: sweet caramel, toffee, dried plums and raisins, alcoholic sweetness
M: sweetness from alcohol lingers on front and back of my tongue , but high carbonation cuts down the cloying caramel sweetness

it's a solid sipper. very nice for a cold dutch summer evenings ;)

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Photo of IPA35
3.97/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a murky brown, slightly lighter than Belgian quadrupels, with a big offwhite rocky, foamy head. Quite alot of white chuncks at the bottom of the glass, never seen that before. Quads are not the most pretty of beers but this one look good. Good lacing.

Smells good, subtile American hops. Pine, citrus but also dark malts. A hint of dark fruits.

Up front you get the fruity hops with a decent bitterness together with malty flavours. Some dark fruits as well as citrus and spice. Quite good and balanced.

Mouthfeel is medium and creamy with medium carbonation.

Overal a good beer and an interesting take of the style.
Not too exceptional.

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Photo of Marius
3.95/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Dark brown pour with little head. Smells of dark fruit, grapes, prunes, caramel. Tastes like dried fruit - figs and especially raisins - caramel, prunes, dark grapes. It has a slight metallic feeling and a harsh bitterness in the background that I can only describe as super-bitter grapefruit without the citrus part. Soft mouthfeel with a harsh metallic and bitter aftertaste, which I did not detect the first time I had this beer.

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Photo of DJ-Hophead
3.9/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

330 ml bottle, Firmabier - Pours dark brown with a slight foamy tanned head. Medium carbonation. Smell - Roasted malts, slight yeast. Taste- Light sweetness, dark stoned fruits, caramel notes, light alcoholic feel with dry aftertaste. Nice winter warmer.

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Photo of Zet
3.9/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Dark brown with two fingers of frothy beige foam. Smell of caramel, dark fruits and grapefruit and flowers from the aroma hops. These flavours continue in the taste, with some toffee and malts in the mix. Taste is a tad too sweet for me. The mouth feel is soft and smooth, probably oat doing its thing here. Good beer, would have been great if it was a little less sweet. I like the quad meets west coast IPA-touch though.

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Photo of metter98
3.65/5  rDev -10.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

On-tap at Jopenkerk, Haarlem, Netherlands

A: The beer is clear but very dark red in color and has a slight amount of visible carbonation. It poured with a quarter finger high beige head that died down and left a thin layer of bubbles covering the surface.
S: Light aromas of dark fruits are present in the nose along with hints of loch oil and citrusy hops.
T: The taste is similar to the smell but has a little more flavors in the way of dark fruits.
M: It feels medium-bodied and very smooth on the palate with a moderate amount of carbonation andsomewarming from the alcohol.
O: The subtle amounts of citrusy hops make this quadrupel rather interesting. Considering its strength, the alcohol is well hidden from the taste.

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Photo of Jeffo
3.65/5  rDev -10.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Doops picked me up a bottle of this stuff. Thanks man!

This brew was supposed to be a one time deal, but it proved too popular to retire, so they brewed another batch and now plan on brewing it on a rotating basis. Sounds good to me.

From a bottle into a snifter

APPEARANCE: Pours a big, fluffy, three finger, medium looking, light tan head with very good retention. Opaque deep auburn brown with medium carbonation evident. Head slowly fades to a good foam cap and leaves some clingy lacing down the sides. A wisp remains until the end and leaves some decent lacing down the glass.

SMELL: Good nose. Caramel malts, bready notes with some spicy yeast in there as well. Dark fruits, raisins and dates mostly, and a noticeable booze presence. Medium strength. Nice, but could be bolder.

TASTE: Follows the nose well, but with that extra kick. Sweet caramel malt, bready and dark fruits up front. Sweet and fruity through the middle, mostly raisins and dates again, with a spicy, Belgian yeast finish. Big aftertaste of sweet caramel, spicy yeast and alcohol lingers nicely. A touch of hop bitterness at the finish, which balances the show nicely. Well rounded and enjoyable, and definitely more forthcoming than the nose.

PALATE: Medium body and medium carbonation for the style. Not quite as creamy as hoped, but still goes down fine and finishes relatively crisp and dry. A bit of heat after the swallow. Decent, but average for the style.

OVERALL: Good stuff for sure, and a fine example of the quadruple style. Jopen has been ramping up the creativity lately, branching out from their standard line-up, and I’m enjoying their willingness to experiment. This is one of their better, more interesting and flavorful brews, so if you happen to see it somewhere, give it a go. Recommended.

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Photo of Hayley_86
3.25/5  rDev -20%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

An okay brownish dark color. The beer has a pleasent but simple smell to it. The taste fits the smell of the beer okay but nothing special. The mouthfeel is a little watery for a quad. Overall this is a decent beer and a drinkable quad but it doesn't bring anything special really.

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Ongelovige Thomas from Jopen Bier BV Haarlem
4.06 out of 5 based on 51 ratings.
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