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Jopen / The Monarchy Vereinigte Historische Bierfanatiker Grätzer | Jopen Bier BV Haarlem

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Jopen / The Monarchy Vereinigte Historische Bierfanatiker GrätzerJopen / The Monarchy Vereinigte Historische Bierfanatiker Grätzer

Brewed by:
Jopen Bier BV Haarlem

Style: Smoked Beer

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 4.00%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Five beer enthusiasts with a common passion for historic brewing came together to create this distinct Polish beer style in the most authentic way we can think of after the brewery in Grodzisk Wielkopolski closed in 1993. It is brewed by Jopen and Monarchy of Musselland together with the beer writers Ron Pattinson and Evan Rail. We use 100% oak-smoked wheat malt, have the exact same gravity of 7.7 degrees Plato, employed classic Lublin hops and fermented with the original yeast. As the town once and again today belongs to Poland, but in the meantime was part of Prussia, there are two different names for the style: Grodziskie and Grätzer. Our research found that brewers also formerly used willow bark in brewing which we thought was an interesting variation. That is why we are offering two different takes on the style: a classic version bearing the name "Grätzer"and a willow bark version called "Grodziskie".

Added by Jwale73 on 05-22-2013

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Ratings: 42 |  Reviews: 11
Reviews by BeerForMuscle:
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3.32/5  rDev -4.9%

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Photo of tigg924
4.23/5  rDev +21.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Taste is light toasted malt, white bread, grain, and smokiness. Nice light bodied beer that I could session. Both the smokiness and the toasted malt portion of the beer shine. Really like this one.

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3/5  rDev -14%

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4.1/5  rDev +17.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

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3.5/5  rDev +0.3%

Photo of hooliganlife
3.54/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Photo of puboflyons
3.03/5  rDev -13.2%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

From the 11.2 fl. oz. bottle. Sampled on June 4, 2016.

Cloudy looking bronze colored pour with virtually no head to speak of. Little carbonation.

The aroma has a smoky and butterscotch ester to it. Low to no hop profile.

Light body. Actually more of a thin body.

The taste echoes the aroma with its butterscotch and smoked malt note. Finishes clean and somewhat crisp. Nothing extraordinary.

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3.5/5  rDev +0.3%

Photo of buschbeer
3.42/5  rDev -2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

11.2 FL OZ bottle
Served in a snifter

This beer pours amber with golden highlights. It is capped with an inch of off white head that leaves virtually no lacing.

It smells sweet and smoky.

The taste is almost too sweet. If it wasn't for the smoke coming to rescue my palate I would have a rough time drinking it.

Thin mouthfeel

I was thinking grätzers were supposed to be a little sour. This beer is very sweet. I like smoke beers, but will probably not be purchasing this beer again. I am glad I tried it though. It is a unique taste experience.

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3.5/5  rDev +0.3%

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3.25/5  rDev -6.9%

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3.5/5  rDev +0.3%

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4.25/5  rDev +21.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

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1.25/5  rDev -64.2%

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3.25/5  rDev -6.9%

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3.5/5  rDev +0.3%

Photo of kojevergas
3.5/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

33cl brown glass bottle from Plan B in Rotterdam. 4% ABV. Served cold into a pilsner glass.

A: Pours a ~1.5cm white cap with a nice consistency. Off-white in colour. ~3-4 minute retention. Leaves mild lacing as it recedes.

Body colour is a murky copper-brown of poor vibrance. No yeast can be seen within.

Average look for a gratzer. Seems unfiltered.

Sm: Lovely smokiness, oak, wheat, very mild/minimally present floral hops. Subtle nuanced smokiness is prominent, but this seems really balanced, and I find none of the harshness/acridity of smoke.

Suggests a really refreshing, balanced, tasty gratzer. Aromatic intensity is average for the style.

The oak and the smoke are wonderful.

T: Beautifully balanced, with subtle smokiness present throughout, rich oak bursting on the palate, and refreshing wheat evening everything out. Hop presence is minimal (to style), and I find no overt yeast character, booze, or off-notes. Great build for a gratzer, though I can imagine it far better...especially in terms of depth of flavour and intricacy. It's a simplistic brew, but a very enjoyable one. The one-two punch of oak and smoke is remarkable.

Mf: Refreshing (and how often is that said of a smoked beer?), smooth, wet, light to medium-bodied, near perfectly carbonated. A biteen twangy, actually.

Not oily, gushed, harsh, astringent, boozy, or scratchy.

Complements the taste nicely.

O: A really likable gratzer. The kind of beer I'd love to buy regularly in six packs - if only that were possible at a fair price. Okay, it's not the best brew in the style, but the oak presence is wonderful and its balance alone makes it well worth trying. Highly drinkable, especially for a smoked beer. A must-try in this near-dead style, especially when in The Netherlands.

High B- (3.5) / WORTHY

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3.25/5  rDev -6.9%

Photo of zeff80
3.67/5  rDev +5.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of artoolemomo
3.37/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

Appearance- Pours up a pretty good amount of head which has decent retention. The head is a pure, cotton-white while the body is a hazy, pale amber which appears as a murky but golden straw to pale amber when held up to the light. Lacing is substantial with patches of sheeting in places.

Nose- Light than a rauchbier but still full of inviting smokiness. Hints of barbecue that tend toward notes of tomato sauce and mild vinous notes. Hints of ash and cloves, slight banana. Even a touch of apple after some swirling.

Taste- Pretty reflective of the nose as was the case with the Grodziskie but there is more presence from the smoke and the phenolic notes of ash and cloves than fruit esters. Still, could use more smoke flavor. It gives you a tease but it doesn't deliver in the way that a rauchbier would. I've read that these types of beers should be smokier but I have no basis for comparison. Light hints of tomato and barbecue sauce, even a little bit of bubblegum. Not a bad beer, just kind of boring. It's pretty much just above average. Some grain in the background, a bit of mineral or chalk on the finish.

Mouthfeel- Just a little more than light bodied with slight effervescence. A bit of a carbonic note on the finish but it matches with the smoke and phenols well.

Drinkability- Pretty easygoing but also somewhat boring. Definitely not worth the price. This will not be a repurchase.

Overall- Just above average. Can't comment about how faithful of a representation it is but I gather from reviews and ratings that it is lacking. Although if you are interested in less popular styles, you might want to try it.

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Photo of The_Kriek_Freak
4.02/5  rDev +15.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

It pours dark amber with a small head. The aroma is reminiscent of fatty smoked meat (pork in particular). The flavor is fairly mild but it's primarily characterized by the smokiness and sweetness of the wheat malt. Easy to drink despite the smoky character. Medium body with little carbonation.

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3.7/5  rDev +6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Photo of UCLABrewN84
3.32/5  rDev -4.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

On tap at Beachwood BBQ & Brewing in Long Beach, CA.

Pours a murky light whitish-orange with a foamy bone head that settles to a partial film on top of the beer. Foamy swaths of lace form around the glass on the drink down. Smell is of malt, grain, smoke, earth, and sour aromas. Taste is much the same with grain, smoke, and woody flavors on the finish. There is a mild amount of smoke bitterness on the palate with each sip. This beer has a low level of carbonation with an almost flat mouthfeel. There is also something in the beer that delivers a bit of a numbing quality in the mouth after each sip. Overall, this is an above average beer with some interesting aromas and flavors, and while I respect the historical aspect of this beer I could not drink more than a few ounces.

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Photo of Jwale73
3.2/5  rDev -8.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3

33cl bottle. Style is described as a Grodziskie (sour wheat beer with smoked malts - in this case oak smoked. Pours a dull, orange-gold with a loose, 1/8th inch bright white head that coalesces around the edges while leaving a soapy slick across the surface. Nose is weird - smokey and citrusy with some barley and toasted malts at the back. Taste consistent with nose; some earthy hops bittering co-mingled with smoke at the back. There are also some tea-like qualities to this beer. Mouthfeel is light and lively, somewhat acrid, with a hint of acidity that stimulates the salivary glands. Overall, I'm not really sure how to rate this style. I can't say I care for it, but I have no other style reference for comparison.

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3.5/5  rDev +0.3%

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