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Veldensteiner Zwick'l | Kaiser Bräu GmbH & Co KG

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Brewed by:
Kaiser Bräu GmbH & Co KG
Germany | website

Style: Kellerbier / Zwickelbier

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 5.40%

Availability: Year-round

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Added by Derek on 04-09-2006

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Ratings:
68
Avg:
3.64
pDev:
20.6%
 
 
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Photo of PEBKAC
2.36/5  rDev -35.2%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.25 | overall: 2

Bottle from Whole Foods Bowery. I've must of had half a dozen of this style on tap/cask, but never from glass.

Served into a baby-sized mug. Bottle starting to sweat.

Hazy, honey-colored brew. Not much head to speak of.

Smells starchy, like pretzels, or sticky spilled beer. Maybe a touch buttery.

Taste is very much the same. Subtle leafy/peppery hops. A squirt of acidity. Finish is plenty yeasty & drab & uninspired. Doesn't taste quite fresh. This is Whole Foods, but then again, you never know.

Subtle carbonation, even prickly at times. Alcohol, while short, has nowhere to hide.

Pretty dead compared to most I've tried on tap/cask. Some things you should seriously have fresh.

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Photo of Knapp85
2.39/5  rDev -34.3%
look: 2 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Tried this at the Split Rock Beer Fest on 11-21-10. They had a bunch of the Veldensteiner bottles there and I knew that I'd never tried any of them so I made sure to get them all under my belt. This beer turned out to have some really pleasent aromas on the nose. The flavors were on the weaker side, due to the style of course. I wouldn't seek this beer out just for the hell of it. It was a good sample but thats about all for me.

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Photo of Derek
2.59/5  rDev -28.8%
look: 3 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Naturbelassenes kellerbier, best before 17.11.06.

A: Gold; Fizzy white head, very little retention or lace.

S: Sulfury, not unlike a sewage treatment plant. It smelt bad. Slight hint of toffee and earth in the background.

T: Slightly sweet, caramel, toffee and grassy hop flavour (plug your nose).

M: Light to moderate body, moderate carbonation.

D: The smell!

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Photo of ramseye4
2.7/5  rDev -25.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

A=Pours a light golden color with a massive fluffy head
S=Very grainy in the aroma, very malty
T=Very malty and a bit bready, very simple and skewed way toward the malty end of the spectrum. Not awful, but not great
M=Definitely the low point. Watery and thin
O=Not terrible, very, very drinkable. Id have it again, but its not high up on my shopping list

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Photo of beerluvr
3.03/5  rDev -16.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Sampled from a Duvel Tulip. Just arrived in the store today, pours with a gorgeous tight just shy of white head settling into a nice finger-high collar that rests atop hazy deep gold liquid. Sweet malty/grassy nose. Malty and honeyish flavors. Thinnish mouthfeel...sweet finish. Nothing to write home about here...I'm just a sucker for those swing top bottles with the German language labels I suppose.

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Photo of falloutsnow
3.11/5  rDev -14.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

From: Binny's, Schaumburg, IL
Date: L152C054 stamped on label
Glass: Ayinger willi glass

Veldensteiner's zwick'l bier is a light version of the kellerbier tradition, with the recipe resulting in a focus on sweetness, honey-like malt, and other lighter, maltier flavors. The hops are somewhat lacking in the beer I had, either due to age or intent, it's impossible to tell with the lack of dating. Regardless, sweetness overpowers bitterness to a semi-cloying degree. This is a beer I would not worry too much about seeking again.

Pours a 2cm head of off-white bubbles, small and densely packed. Retention is above average, the head lasting several minutes as it drifts down to a thin film atop the body of the beer. Lacing is fairly generous, a few streaks and clumps along the sides of the glass. Body is an opaque burnt tan with orange-yellow highlights, light bringing out pale orange and yellow hues: a lighter-colored unfiltered lager bier. Carbonation is not visible through the opacity.

Aroma is brighter, sweeter than the Kulmbacher kellerbier, emphasis here being on sweet malt syrup, honey-like sweetness, and a floral aspect. Too light, and slightly cloying, for my tastes.

Whereas Kulmbacher's kellerbier was richly of brown bread, Veldensteiner's zwick'l is of clean white bread, malt syrup and honeyed sweetness, with some yeast and modest bittering European hops present. Aftertaste is of sweetly bread or cracker-like malts, a bit of yeast, and some residual bittering hops.

Beer is medium to medium-light bodied, with low to low-medium amounts of carbonation. The mouthfeel is generally light, smooth, and slightly watery as a result. Closes out with a very dry finish.

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Photo of chinchill
3.35/5  rDev -8%

Swing top bottle.
Hazy amber with an excellent, creamy head.
Light plus body with medium plus carbonation.
Plenty of malt flavor for style. Hop load leaves bitter and sweet in balance but contributes little to the flavor until the nutty aftertaste.

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Photo of Ozzylizard
3.39/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

Bottle marked L028E054 at 40 degrees into shaker
Aroma weak, malt
Head average (4 cm, aggressive pour), off white, fizzy, rapidly diminishing to 2 mm ring and layer
Lacing none
Body medium yellow, very tiny particles in suspension, thick layer of sediment on bottom of bottle
Flavor somewhat maltier than a regular lager, more like an amber ale, with hops bitterness apparent. No alcohol, no diacetyl.
Palate medium, watery, soft carbonation

Appearance 4, Aroma 3, Flavor 3.5, Palate 3.5, Overall 3.5. Not a bad example of a kellerbier – the yeast has mostly settled. I have had some in Germany that looked like specimens from urinary tract infections.

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Photo of shirfan
3.45/5  rDev -5.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Appearance and aroma: Luden's Honey cough drops. Cloudy maize with little foam.

Lively carbonation underscores a crisp, sweet, light malt with honey and yogurt flavors. Pilsner-style hops kick in during the finish with a decent amount of bitterness.

Funky sourness comes and goes, with an almost kombucha-like "aliveness".

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Photo of aasher
3.46/5  rDev -4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

My first Z'Wickl/Kellerbier! I'm always down to try new styles so here goes nothing.

This swing top bottle pours a pretty clear, pale golden yellow with a one finger soft soapy white head. The aromas are solely of sweet pale malts and light honey. It definitely smells like a light lager. The flavors are of sweet pale malts and light honey. It's pretty heavy grains. It also has an ever so light bitterness. It's very light and doesn't offer any complexity whatsoever, but it's not bad and decently drinkable. It drinks fine and smooth. I can see this style being popular in the summer but I wouldn't want to drink it all the time. It's just ok.

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Photo of aleigator
3.49/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.5

Pours a clean amber color with a froth, big head.

Smells of straw, old leaves and white bread malts, which got a nice sweetness to them.

Drinks very refreshing, with a bubbly carbonation among a light bodied beer.

Drinks utmost smooth with a slowly evolving straw quality coming up from the softness of the beer. Straw gets enriched by a pleasantly dry, grassy hoppiness with more and more prominent toffee malts.

Turns a tad too sweet during the finish, overwhelming the hops by overly prominent malts. Apart from that the mouthfeel in this turns out to be awesome.

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Photo of JohnnyBarman
3.53/5  rDev -3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Swingtop bottle from Consumer Beverages in Orchard Park, NY. On special that week, so I thought I’d give it a go. Since Oktoberfest started officially a couple of days ago in Munich, I thought it was appropriate.

Poured into a stein for that Germanic feel. Murky bready caramel, with a good head of foam (about two inches from a vigorous pour) that settled nicely into a thin blanket that crept up the sides of the glass with every sip. Lots of visible carbonation when first poured.

Nose is honey, white bread, yeast, apple and a touch of herbal hops.

Interesting keller, with a focus on a lighter, honey flavour rather than the darker malty bread that I’ve seen in others of the style. My initial impression was not that great – it tasted sweet and a bit off – but after a few minutes of warmth the honey bread came through and actually it works out alright. Certainly feels like an older style of brewing, if that makes any sense. Stronger carbonation than I would have expected, slight creaminess, dry finish.

Different take on the zwick’l style that goes for sweet honey over the richer maltier beers of the same style. Worth a try.

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Photo of emerge077
3.53/5  rDev -3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Flip-top 0,5l bottle that gives a hiss when the seal is broken.
"Mindestens haltbar bis: L152C054" At least durable until: L152C054. Good to know...

Poured into a tulip glass, it has copious white foam, and a bright and saturated copper orange color. The foam is slow to recede, and leaves a webby halo of froth inside the glass. POuring in the sediment, it becomes a dark tannish orange.

Slightly musty aroma of minerals and apple. Later it's all shortbread and sweet sticky malt. Flavors are similar, it has a fairly smooth and hefty feel to it once the yeast was poured. Lingering bready aftertaste, primary flavors of apple, fresh yeasty bread, and dry hay. It has a bit more character than your average German lager, but it's pretty sweet and slick feeling over time. Ok to try and compare to others of the style, likely not a repeat buy for me personally.

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Photo of BierFan
3.57/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a half liter swing top bottle into a small mug.

Poured with a big foamy off-white head. The clarity of the beer is much higher than I expected. Bright golden body. Smells like a typical pale lager but with some funky and sour notes on top. The taste isn't anything crazy. Dry, slight skunk, pale malt. This bottle might have been a little past it's "drink by" date but there is no way of knowing as far as I'm aware.

Overall, I'm glad I gave this beer a try, but I won't be buying another.

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Photo of crossovert
3.58/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

5l minikeg. It is a hazy orangeish gold with a large, foamy white head. The smell is light and grainy. The flavor is sweet and bready but with a nice touch of noble hops in the back. Not bitter but the hops are noticeable. I was surprised by this particular one.

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Photo of bluejacket74
3.61/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

This was a new addition at my local beer store, figured I'd try it for $3.49 a bottle. 500 ml swing top bottle. Served in a mug, the beer pours a hazy dark gold color with about an inch frothy off-white head. The head retention is good, and there's a lot of lacing left on the glass. Aroma is a bit weak but mostly sweet, it smells like grain, some honey and a bit of grassy hops. Luckily, the taste is stronger than the aroma. The brew tastes like sweet malt, grassy and herbal hops, caramel malt and some bread/grain. Mouthfeel/body is light/medium, it's a bit slick and is well carbonated. Drinkability is decent, it's not hard to drink this brew at all. Not a bad beer, I think it's worth a try.

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Photo of oberon
3.63/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

My father-in-law bought a minny barrel of this at Beers of the World for us to drink on.Poured a hazed straw color with a frothy one finger white head,very low carbonation wich was expected.Light aromas of toasted grain and mineral,not much presence.Lighter mouthfeel but that to was expected.Grainy with the before mentioned iron-like taste,it goes down so easy its crazy.I liked this beer,light but not wimpy,incredibly food fiendly.

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Photo of KTCamm
3.64/5  rDev 0%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

3/11...pours medium light to dark with 1/2 inch white foam. Sits fluffy. Soft pilsy wheat nose. Light banana too. Clean light taste smooth soft wheat. Very wet. Fast finish, almost watery. Too clean?

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Photo of Bung
3.67/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

500ml. Orangey gold pour. Thin layer of white that dissipated pretty quickly.

Aroma, malty caramel. Some hay like thing.

Taste, malt, toffee, some nut. Hay and herbal hop notes.

More carbonation than it appeared it would have, makes it a pretty nice drinker. A tad over light bodied.

2nd Kellerbier I've had, I thought it was pretty solid after mowing the lawn.

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Photo of mynie
3.7/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Sitting, unannounced and inexplicable, at the Village Bottle Shop in West Lafayette, Indiana. There appears to be a date code at the bottom of the bottle but I'll be damned if I can read it. A little age has to be expected, though, and seeing as how this is an American website I feel it fair to review this beer.

Smells a little old, but not unpleasantly so. Big nodes of overripe fruit mix against some spritely Zwickel weirdness--pollen, insect parts, sunlight.

Tastes like it smells, only with a really nice, smooth, surprisingly hoppy back end that brings everything together like vanilla ice cream. Big nodes of bread and honey mix with the aforementioned weird nodes. It *is* old, but the age doesn't impart any bad flavors so much as it disrupts the balance.

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Photo of socon67
3.73/5  rDev +2.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

A - Loving the swing top bottle! Pours a cloudy golden color with bottle-conditioned yeast in the bottom. Visible fizzy carbonation. Lacing is minor but impressive anyway.

S - Very fresh grain smell. Fresh honey, and some very mild traces of hop resin.

T - Tastes very earthy with some tangy yeast notes. There sweetness comes from a honey flavor. There is a hearty taste of fresh wheat.

M - Gritty in the finish, this is a light feeling beer with some carbonation and some sediment from the bottle.

O - A pretty good depiction of the traditional style. I like the style, the bottle, and the freindly price point ($3.99 at my local shop). I'd have this again.

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Photo of biegaman
3.77/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

There's enough densely packed sediment at the bottom of the bottle that it's not possible to see through it, even when held head-on into the light. The beer itself, curiously, has not a single flake of yeast and is only as cloudy as is normal for this unfiltered style. Veldensteiner Zwick'l also has the standard amount of carbonation for a Kellerbier (which is little) but that's not surprising given the 'pop-top' bottle.

The deep gold, faintly orange colour can be attributed to slightly caramelized malt, apparently used generously - butterscotch-like notes in the aroma gives it an almost "sticky" smell. This impression is furthered by a whiff of raisiny fruit esters, those more likely stemming from the bottle's age.

It's not hard to believe this poorly sealed bottle isn't at its best after the 7000km journey and then being neglected on the shelf where I found it. But even at weakened strength, I still feel Kellerbiers offer more than the typical German lager. The style is a perfect combination of flavour and quaffability. Far more hoppy than the national norm but every bit as malty, it is a style of both substance and character.

Veldensteiner Zwick'l will never be top of its class but it does prove what I'm talking about. On the palate a mild but earthy, briefly pungent and lemon peel-accented bitterness ultimately cedes to a powerful maltiness that is at once grainy and raw as well as toasty and lightly sweet, with a bit of fruitiness.

It's a delicious and refreshing beer even at less than one hundred percent. This not only speaks well to the fine Männer und Frau at Veldensteiner but is also a testament to the verwunderlich quality of German brewing overall. If you ask me lagers like this one are probably the least appreciated of all styles.

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Photo of Darkmagus82
3.78/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Poured from bottle into a pint glass

Appearance – The beer pours a murky amber orange color with a big white head. The head has a decent level of retention leaving almost no lace on the sides of the glass once it fades away.

Smell – The aroma of the beer is heaviest of a doughy smell with tons of yeasty smells mixed within. Along with these smells are some light grainy smells as well as a little bit of honey and tea.

Taste – The taste begins with a bready and doughy taste with some sweeter flavors of caramel and a little bit of a orange citrus flavor. As the flavor advances a strong yeasty flavor comes to the tongue along with a little bit of a grainy and light honey taste. Toward the very end, small hints of an earthy hop joins the flavor, leaving a nice malty but smother flavor to linger on the tongue.

Mouthfeel – The body of the beer is average for a brew of 5.4 % with a carbonation level that is average as well. Both the body and the carbonation are great for the brews flavors and make for a very nice easy drinker.

Overall – A nice easy drinking but flavorful and smooth tasting brew. Quite enjoyable.

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Photo of WillCarrera
3.81/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

500 ml bottle, no bottled on date, poured into a nonic pint glass.

A- Pours a hazy yellow-golden color. Topped with two fingers of white head that recedes to a ring around the edge of the glass, leaves no lacing.

S- Incredible aroma of honey, smells pretty delicious. Some light, bready and grainy malts. Damn that honey smells awesome.

T- Sadly much of the honey is lost in the flavor, it's there but is relatively mild, it comes out more as the beer warms. Super malty, malts are light and grainy. Has some mild herbal and floral hops.

M- Medium-bodied, smooth feel, good carbonation.

O- An interesting beer, the highlight for me was definitely the aroma, which is amazing, it's very drinkable and would be perfect to drink outdoors in the summer.

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Photo of mscudder
3.82/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a pint.

A - A deep orange with a finger-sized pale head. Below average retention and lacing.

S - Bready malts and grain. Seems a bit dense, although there are no vibrant aromas to speak of.

T - Something unlike anything I have had prior. Tastes of rich bread with some soft malts on the back. Quite simple, although refreshing.

M - Light to medium bodied with fair carbonation. Smooth and a full feel as the beer goes down, which is where this beer shines. It reminds me of a light lager, although bolder, smoother and well rounded.

O - Lacking a wealth of flavor but the simple bready composition makes this one enjoyable if you know what you are asking for. I had yet to have a beer of this style, thus my opinion may be skewed. I would get it again.

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83 out of 100 based on 39 ratings.
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