Bayern Brewing, Inc. / Edelweiss Bistro

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German Doppelbock
Ranked #35
Ranked #11,904
3.96 | pDev: 13.89%
Bayern Brewing, Inc. / Edelweiss Bistro
Montana, United States
Very Good
Notes: “Doppel” means double and this beer is double in every way. Bayern Doppelbock became an instant legend when Bayern introduced it in Missoula in December of 1987. Unlike its top-fermenting counterparts, this hearty German dark lager does not have the rough bite of a porter or a stout. Bayern Doppelbock is dark, smooth and has plenty of hops (Saaz & Hallertauer Perle) and malt. It has a starting gravity of 18 degrees Plato. Bayern Doppelbock is available in bottles and on draft from November through February, just in time for the holidays and the coldest months. Please enjoy this festive beer in moderation and leave your car at home if you are planning to celebrate with Doppelbock.
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Photo of woodychandler
3.64/5  rDev -8.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

I am really loving the way that New Odds & Sods Beer Sunday (Week 711) is shaking/has shaken out! I didn't really have a clear-cut Plan of Action (POA), but even with/despite a rough idea of what I want(ed) to accomplish, this has been a great day, full of revelations.

From the Bottle: "'Doppel' means double and this beer is double in every way. This German style dark lager is smooth with a hearty amount of hops and malt. A fine beer brewed in accordance to the 1516 German Law of Purity."; "We invite you to enjoy this excellent festive beer available during the winter holidays. Seasons Greetings. Prost! [undersigned] Jinger Knoller [?]"; "Brewed in the tradition of Bavarian Masterbrewers since 1987".
From the cap (!): "Packaged with 60% returned bottles"; "Return. Refill. Rejoice."

I gotta agree with that philosophy. Isn't there enough of everything in the stream that if everyone recycled, the need for new manufacture would drop off/away?

I may have inadvertently aged this one, but I am careful as far as my handling of such bottles. It began with a Pop! of the cap, followed by a slow, gentle pour into the awaiting glass. How slow? A sloth indicated that I needed to speed things along as I was slowing it down! 8=O Once it had been decanted, an in-glass swirl raised just under two fingers of fizzy, foamy, light-tan head with modest retention, quickly falling away to wisps. Color was Dark Brown to Very Dark Brown (SRM = > 27, < 34) with garnet highlights & NE-quality clarity. Oooh. Nose was medicinal with notes of treacle, tar, dark/baker's chocolate, light smoke, caramel & anise. I do not mean to disparage a beer, but did you ever smell or taste Geritol? I did at my maternal grandparents' house out of curiosity. Wow! This smelled like a tablespoonful of Geritol. 8=p Mouthfeel was medium. The taste was MUCH more pleasant than the nose had led me to expect! Phew. It still had an odd treacle/anise/vegetal quality, but the chocolate/caramel/smokiness offset it nicely. Its alcohol was well-hidden, making it fairly easy to drink. This will quickly get you where you are going if you are not careful! Finish was in that Twilight Zone between semi-sweet & semi-dry & I would lean towards the former over the latter, but YMMV. Interested? I have another bottle …

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Photo of degueulasse
3.52/5  rDev -11.1%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

This beer pours a deep amber-brown into the glass, and it smells like rich caramel. It tastes malty and sweet, and it is a thick beer that still manages to finish rather cleanly.

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Photo of beergoot
3.83/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Dark mahogany body; thick, creamy, rocky head. Sweet malt aroma; caramel and crystal malt brightness; candied sugars. Dark bread crust flavor; mildly sweet; subtle bitterness. Medium-heavy body; generally warm; smooth.

A respectable, very approachable doppelbock example.

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Photo of Squire
4.08/5  rDev +3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Attractive dark brown color with gold highlights, light tan cap.

Aroma of dark roasted malt, caramel and rich toffee, some cocoa, dark ripe stone fruit and a touch of roasted chestnuts in the background.

Taste is full, complex and surges forward like a storm front. Rich like strong coffee but without bitterness. I can pick out the elements found in the scent but in flavor they all present together merging without bumping into each other. Consistent throughout where Noble hops show only in shadow yet manage to balance the whole. Finishes full and dry.

This is a broad shouldered beer able to bench press it's own weight yet there is harmonious fluidity in it's movement. Reminds me of what Unibroue can do on a good day.

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Photo of Ozzylizard
3.99/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

$ 5.68 (Including shipping)/capped twelve oz bottle ($ 0.473/oz) from Tavour, Seattle, WA.
BB May 18 notched on label, stored at 42 degrees and served at 58 degrees in a hand washed and dried Jester King snifter.
Appearance – 3.75.
Body – Dark brown, opaque. When held to the light, a marked red caste is present.
Head – Average (Maximum 2.3 cm, aggressive center pour), tan, dense, fizzy as pouring but settles down, good retention, diminishing to a two mm ring and a thin layer with a few rocks.
Lacing – A rare tiny reef or island, otherwise none.
First pour – Medium brown, clear.
Aroma – 4 - Roasted malt, light, no caramel or toffee aromas. No hops.
Flavor – 4 – Roasted malt character much more marked than on the nose. Slightly sweet with a hint of toffee. It ends with just a touch of malt bitterness and still no hops. No alcohol, no diacetyl, no dimethylsulfide.
Palate – 4 - Almost medium, creamy, soft carbonation.
Impression and summation – 4 - This is certainly an above average American take on a doppelbock. The hop presence is very subdued and the malt definitely leads in both nose and taste. The malt tastes and smells lightly toasted (as it should) rather than heavily roasted and what little caramel/toffee presence is noted is in the trace area and contributes to the flavor complexity. I would have liked more lacing but otherwise the appearance was good. And thank you for actually notching the BB date – so many using this old style of marking do not bother to actually notch it.

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Photo of Impetuous
4.09/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

An aggressive pour yields minimal tan head over the deepest red body these eyes've yet to witness.

Flavor is nutty malts followed by overripe cherries. When it warms you get some light coffee notes. Ends with toffee notes.

Quite excellent!!

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Photo of Brolo75
3.9/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

12 ounce bottle poured into a pint glass

A: Pours a mahogany red with a tan colored head, no head retention, not much carbonation, it's clear, some slight lacing.

A: Roasted caramel, toffee, very malty, no alcohol on the nose.

T: Like the nose it's roasted caramel, toffee, malts, alcohol is well hidden, very drinkable and smooth, semi-dry finish, aftertaste is of roasted nuttiness.

M: Medium bodied with a semi-dry finish, good amount of carbonation.

O: This beer could use a little more punch in the flavor and some more body, but overall it's a tasty and very drinkable beer. Glad to have tried it.

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Photo of Bitterbill
4.35/5  rDev +9.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Pours a clear mahogany with an inch to 2 inches of tannish foam.

Sweet smelling with doses of brown sugar and molasses and a candy like caramel.

Some roasted malt added to what I got in the smell and I end up with a great tasting Doppelbock. I don't detect any bitterness and why would I want any? Lol.

Pretty thick mouthfeel with perfect carbonation.

This is SO good!

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Photo of Darkmagus82
4.04/5  rDev +2%
look: 2.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.75

Poured from bottle into a pint glass

Appearance – The beer pours a deep brown color with some ruby highlights that barley shine through. Upon pouring there is a tiny fizzy white head which fades very fast to leave a trace of lace on the sides of the glass.

Smell – The aroma of the beer is heaviest of a roasted malt and grainy smell. Along with these smells comes some lighter notes of some darker fruit of plum and cherry as well as a bit of a caramel and brown sugar sweetness. A little bit of an alcohol booziness is there as well producing a rather warming smell overall.

Taste – The taste begins with a thick and hearty doughy taste with lots of roast and a great deal of sweetness. The sweetness is initially of a caramel and molasses flavor with some other sweet flavors of a dark fruit nature of plum and fig coming to the tongue as the taste moves on further toward the end. A little bit of a graininess develops later in the flavor profile and is joined by just a hint of a warming rum taste. In the end, with the sweetness seeming to step it up even more with more brown sugar and some cherry coming to the tongue, one is left with a nice sweet and roasty warming flavor to linger on the tongue.

Mouthfeel – The beer is quite thick and chewy with a carbonation level that is on the slightly lower to average side overall. For the style, rum flavor, maltiness and even the sweetness the feel is very nice, bathing the tongue in all the rich flavor.

Overall – A sweeter doppelbock with lots of nice flavor. At only $5.99 (on sale) for a 6 pack this is an amazingly good buy. Very tasty and certainly a nice winter style warmer.

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Photo of pat61
4.25/5  rDev +7.3%

Malt and fruit nose
Ruby brown with a 1" tan tinted off-white foam cap.
Big malty rich flavors but there is something non-German about the palate.
Medium full body, medium carbonation.

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Photo of BastardKing24
3.61/5  rDev -8.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

My first from this brewery, from the bottle.
Pours a dark ruby red with a small wispy beige head that leaves lacing and bubbles.

Smell is slightly muted with molasses, caramel, toast, and dark fruits.

Taste is a mediocre blend of dark fruit and brown sugar.

Feel keeps this one from being a complete failure as its well carbed and has a nice slickness that compliments its average taste.

Overall there nothing really wrong with this beer its just rather bland and average.

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Photo of ncjoshman
4.31/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

I waited twelve long months for this beauty to come my way again.

A: A deep and dark, yet clear mahogany with a thin milky head. Lacing is minimal.

S: Not too much here. Roasted malt comes through the most.

T: A dark fruitiness fades into a super malty roasted flavor. God, is it good. Very bold, but not too much so.

M: Pretty thick, but with a wine-esque acidity. A very sticky aftertaste isn't my favorite thing.

O: Man o man, is this stuff excellent. I'm a huge fan of bocks, so this is right up my alley. No shortage of great beers in Montana, but this one is special.

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Photo of constantine_272
4.37/5  rDev +10.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

A: Dark, dark amber. Not quite black, still slightly translucent. Doesn't leave any sticky irregular foam. The foam is silky and thin and drifts down the glass.

S: Nice and light. Just a hint of sweet roast, very mild and clean.

T: Starts off with a bit of tanginess which fades quickly to sweet red fruit flavor which is balanced out with a mild roast. Very nicely balanced; nothing stands out as too bold or overbearing.

M: Nice mouthfeel except for a lingering roast aftertaste. Possibly a bit thick for my taste, but easily can overlook that for the amount of alcohol it's that's in there.

O: Excellent winter warmer. Very nicely balanced. Great soft flavor, but still a deep rich mouth filling beer. You would never know this beer delivered 8% alcohol.

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Photo of Sark
3.73/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Appearance- pours with a thin surface head and a dark red-brown tone

Smell- mild noble hop tones with lightly toasty malt character, very mild mannered overall

Taste- sweet bread with nice yeastyness, mellow hop and malt isn't as sweet as i normally find doppelbocks

Mouthfeel- medium bodied with crisp bite on the end

Overall- a good standard version of a German classic, nothing super spectacular or over the top

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Photo of LiquidAmber
3.97/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a Celebrator pokal. Pours a very dark mahogany brown with a half finger light tan head that dissipated quickly to a thick film and ring around the glass. Light aroma of caramel malt, dark dried fruit. Flavor is caramel and bready malt, dried fruit, nuts and a hint of rye bread. Finishes malty with light hop bitterness. A very nice flavor profile. Medium bodied. Great malt flavor with other interesting flavors. I liked this quite a bit.

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Photo of Jason
4.12/5  rDev +4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

12oz brown bottle with a freshness date.

LOOK: Dark brown with edges of garnet, thin but sturdy lacing

SMELL: Herbal, hint of alcohol, molasses bread batter, spicy, clean, grassy

TASTE: Silky smooth, creamy, big body, full malt jacket, toasted grain, bready, grassy, malt sweetness, nutty, mild husk, faint broth, malty finish

Full on malt bomb here, a lovely one at that. Seriously this is a really good brew and puts most US brewed Doppelbocks to shame.

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Photo of gkunkle
3.04/5  rDev -23.2%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Pours a dark brown color. Despite A relatively aggressive pour the head didn't develop much, it stood 1/4 inch at its tallest. Retention is disappointing. I can see carbonation rising in my glass. Smell is of sweet dark malts, raisins, dark fruit. Taste touches on the dark fruit in the middle of the tongue. I also get sort of a citrus and chocolate taste toward the back of the tongue. Body is of appropriate thickness with good carbonation. Sadly, sort of a letdown. I've had other doppelbocks that have been significantly better at a similar price point.

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Photo of EricCioe
3.97/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This pours a deep brown with an almond head that thins to a cap and then to nothing with no lace. On the nose there is a big base of bready malts, cocoa and molasses, really dark fruits further back, and some acetone. In the mouth the deep fruit comes out with molasses and toasted malt, some chocolate again. There is no booze here. If it had a bit more heft this would be really great, but it's merely good as it is. The body is medium full, vinous, a little syrupy.

Overall, this is a nice doppelbock that could be so much more with a little tweak here or there.

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Photo of ShwarzAl3r
3.88/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: This beer has a very dark brown look with a slight ruby tint in the light. The head is mostly non-existent except the thin layer around the edge touching the glass.

S: The smell is fairly weak but I mostly got a wheaty bread scent with a hint of alcohol undertone.

T: The taste is strong, the abv on this page should be a range up to maybe 12% after examining descriptions of this beer. A flavor of a heavy bread, with a slight bit of spice comes on at first followed by a tinge of alcohol that warms you right up.

M: It is a full beer that has a good thickness, which is slightly creamy it ends with a nice alcohol warmth.

O: Overall the beer is definitely worth the purchase. In value you can't get much better than this with the flavor and quality I definitely recommend this beer as being top notch.

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Photo of ZAP
4.13/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Been sitting on this min-keg (5L) for about two it for 12.99 and was curious as I had not heard of Bayern. Let me just say that was a great purchase. I am reviewing based on the beer and not the value but you can't top that.

A-Dark brown bordering on black...some ruby highlights...perfect cream tan head..

S-Very nice maltiness...dark fruits (plums, black cherries), and a dark chocolate dimension as well.

T-Very similar to aroma...the dark fruits are my first impression and again it is plums and black cherries and now And now I notice red grapes as well....malty....along the lines of molasses but not that overbearingly sweet.

M-First impression was this is on the lighter side for a doppel but the more I drink the more it feels about right. Certainly not a big huge doppel but it is not light in the shorts..

O-I'm impressed. I've had many domestically made doppels worse than this one and only a few better. Well done and recommended..particulary for 12.99 for5 L which is like 2 and 1/2 growlers. I should shut up....they'll probably raise prices now.

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Photo of Bighuge
4.18/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Clear mahogany body. Thick crop of rocky beige head on top. Retention is very good as is the lacing. Aroma is good and solid. Sweet and malty. Seems pretty rich by the smell. Some raisin accents. And a little rum on the nose as well. The taste is very even keeled and tasty. This isn't as thick, rich and complex as the best of them, but it is actually pretty good. Rich malts accented with molasses and chocolate. Nice lingering dark berry flavor. Solid flavor. I'd give it a 4.25 if I could, but it's not quite a 4.5 in my book. Very drinkable. Body is medium-full and carbonation is picture perfect.

Thanks for the minikeg mighty zap.

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Photo of loren01
3.87/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

A: Pours a dark brownish red color, small head disspates quickly leaving a tiny bit of lace on the glass
S: Dark fruit, molasses and slight banana smell
T: Good maltiness, caramel, fruity and slight banana taste. Real tasty dopplebock
M: Medium bodied a little bit light on the carbonation.
D: This is a very good Dopplebock. Very drinkable, maybe not more than 1 at a time but a nice wintery heavy beer.

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Photo of harrymel
1.96/5  rDev -50.5%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

From notes verbatim on 11/27/10

A: Little/no foam on this one. Deep brown easily transferred by light making a cherry red hue. Excellent clarity.

S: Sweet rye bread with a hint of nutmeg/allspice. Okay.

T: ABV is poorly addressed here. Boozy and warm with toasty flavor.

M: Very light and flat for a Doppelbock IMO.

D: Good for a pint, not much more.

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Photo of brentk56
3.84/5  rDev -3%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Appearance: Pours a mahogany color with auburn highlights; despite a hard pour, I could only raise about half an inch of head, though bubbles and legs clung to the side of the glass

Smell: Dried dark fruit (raisins and figs) as well as caramel and sassafras root

Taste: Opens with dark fruits (raisins and figs) and burnt brown sugar, with the burnt sugar elements building in intensity through mid-palate; underneath the sweeter flavors there is a depth of flavor that adds some balance, though the malts dominate into the finish

Mouthfeel: Medium to full body with low carbonation

Drinkability: With better carbonation, this would be a first class doppelbock; still, it is a pretty good example of the style

Thanks, sholle, for the opportunity

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Photo of JohnGalt1
4/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz as part of a mixed 6-pack from the Albertsons in Lewiston MT. Enjoyed from a big red wine glass.

Short lasting tan head.. the brew is crystal clear deep walnut... very pretty... no lacing to speak of.

Good malt profile.. dark bread, toasty and very clean.. not as "deep" as I would hope for or remember from previous bottles, but I still dig it.

Malty with a bit of prune... plenty of toast and a hint of cocoa.. nice but not very rich... still very clean.

The body is medium with a smooth lite carbonation.

I honestly remember liking this one a lot more... but what do I know? Has Bayern switched up recipes or brewers lately?

Pretty good, but not on the same par as the Continental brothers.

All 4's.

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Doppelbock from Bayern Brewing, Inc. / Edelweiss Bistro
Beer rating: 88 out of 100 with 91 ratings