Altfränkisches Klosterbier
Klosterbrauerei Weißenohe

Altfränkisches KlosterbierAltfränkisches Klosterbier
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From:
Klosterbrauerei Weißenohe
 
Germany
Style:
Kellerbier / Zwickelbier
ABV:
5.1%
Score:
85
Avg:
3.73 | pDev: 13.4%
Reviews:
19
Ratings:
36
Status:
Active
Rated:
Jan 08, 2022
Added:
Jul 29, 2007
Wants:
  3
Gots:
  1
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Ratings by aleigator:
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Reviewed by aleigator from Germany

3.15/5  rDev -15.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3
Pours an amber-bright brown, filtered color, with a medium sized, pillowy white head.

Smells of wood bark and whole-grain bread, wrapped up by toffee and a whiff of hay. Features a convincing bread impression, due to its profound maltiness.

Drinks very easy, staying focused on the malts, together with a medium, slightly metallic carbonation.

Tastes of a soft aqueous quality, immediately accompanied by toffee sweet malts. Malts grow more profound, while getting breadier at the same time. Finishes with a bubbly carbonation, revealing a caramel sweetness, among the beers mellow breadiness.

Perfectly well put together, with a great bread profile to it, while it drinks very easy.
Oct 18, 2015
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Reviewed by misteil from Ireland

3.54/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5
i feel like i give every kellerbier i have the same rating, they’re always pleasent without really ever being of note, they’re the median beer, this is enjoyable enough to be fair, with the sweet bready malt flavours standing out as being quite nice, although it doesn’t make for particularly interesting drinking, light bitterness on the finish, light bodied, medium to high carbonation, crushable enough, it’s grand like..
Jan 08, 2022
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Reviewed by StJamesGate from New York

4.15/5  rDev +11.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25
Pale amber with fluffy taupe head; caramel, bread crust and soap on the nose; lager grain, hints of toffee + pretzel crust, slight apple esters, and big tingly grassy end; clean, lt-med, solid bitterness.

4 4 4.25 4 4.25

So the interweb doesn’t know what to say about this Franconian lager: kellerbier here on BA, amber lager on RB, and Marzen on untappd.
In the glass, it’s too clear to be unfiltered, and tastes like none of the above. Instead there’s a delicate and very pleasant balance of melanoidins, Munich malt-type sweetness, and assertive hop presence.
Dead easy to drink, enough character to keep you interested, endless potential to pair with food - fine example of good German craftsmanship + possibly this brewery’s best.
Jun 04, 2021
 
Rated: 4 by steverx8 from England

Mar 05, 2021
 
Rated: 3.69 by MrDarcy from Massachusetts

Dec 12, 2019
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Rated by Flyjdix11 from Florida

4.26/5  rDev +14.2%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4.5
Malty yet balanced. Toasted but Very drinkable. Not bitter.
Oct 26, 2018
 
Rated: 3.63 by Beerman1977 from Austria

May 24, 2017
 
Rated: 3.67 by WillieThreebiers from Connecticut

Oct 08, 2016
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Reviewed by Jugs_McGhee from Colorado

2.89/5  rDev -22.5%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3
500ml brown glass bottle with a faux-traditional label design and a branded pry-off crown cap purchased at Ambrosetti in Berlin. Best before: 09.04.2016. 5.10% ABV. The label offers only "Traditional Franconian beer," with no overt indication of style. I guess I'll decide the style as I go along, which is always fun, but it seems the internet has already decided this is a kellerbier - with no sources provided to back that up.

Reviewed live. Served chilled into a pils glass in Berlin.

APPEARANCE: Pours a beer indicative of low carbonation (with a present but not full or thick head) - which would be consistent with a keller or zwickel - if not for the pale copper body, which is clearly clarified/filtered, has no cloudiness, turbidity, or haze to it. Its clarity and transparency alone rule out its classification as a keller or zwickel, so I'm not sure what to consider it as I press on. Some mild lace does stick to the sides of the glass as the thin head recedes, which takes maybe 3 minutes.

AROMA: Caramalt/copper malt, barley, buttery character, vitaminy yeast. I don't get any of the bung-y damp basement character you'd expect in a keller or zwickel. Hop character is herbal (if anything), but muted and minimal in presence. Usage of CaraMunich and/or crystal malt(s) wouldn't surprise me. Aromatic intensity is average.

I detect no off-notes (unless you're willing to make the leap that the faint buttery note alone is indicative of actual diacetyl), nor booze. Yeast profile is consistent with a keller or zwickel, seeing as it's quite present but also quite plain, pointing to rich vitaminy biscuity character but unclean attenuation. Given the lack of obvious wheat in the malt aromatics, I'm willing to contend that if it is somehow a keller or zwickel that it's not a top-fermented one (as per my understanding, top fermented expressions of the style always use wheat in the malt bill).

TASTE & TEXTURE: Sweeter and more caraMunich/caramalt-forward than any keller or zwickel I've ever had, though there is a hint of that classic keller damp taste, and the yeast presence is consistent with the style. Having sampled it's taste finally, I'd accept it as a keller, if only because it isn't consistent with any other style I'm aware of.

Hop presence is higher than anticipated, with some faint herbal character coming through. The indication is that this is more keller than zwickel - a contention supported also by its merely weak carbonation (where a zwickel would have hardly any at all).

Unbunged basement dampness strengthens in intensity as it warms - or, it could be merely that since I've accepted it as a keller, my brain's tricking me and really I'm just full of shit talking about this beer (maybe both, who knows?).

In any case, for whatever reason, I can imagine its wort having sat in a cellar exposed to the air for 40ish days, so I guess I'm on the right track. It's not a clean beer (except in appearance), but I do suspect lager yeast was used, especially given the low attenuation. I also detect no overt esters, so ale yeast is unsuspected.

I wouldn't call it imbalanced, but it's unbalanced. Certainly simplistic, but it's to style.

Texture-wise, I find it soft, weak, somewhat thin yet medium-bodied, and well-carbonated. Smooth and wet, but unrefreshing. Has the mouthfeel you'd expect in a Middle Ages version of the style, so I suppose that makes this somehow authentic?

OVERALL: A seeming attempt at a traditional kellerbier, Altfränkisches Klosterbier is a drinkable enjoyable brew with plenty of elements of the intended style.

Its clarity and obvious filtration remain a mystery to me, and from the faux-Franconian font on the label to its dubious classification as a klosterbier (after all, when was the last time this brewery was genuinely monastic?) to the strangely irony-unaware quotation from an ostensible beer authority regarding this beer on Weissenohe's website ("Your Altfränkisch has just that taste I remember from 50 years ago"), I find it ultimately a rather disingenuously marketed brew. Weissenohe really wants us to buy that this is authentic and organic and made by monks or at least in a (formerly) monastic brewery and so on.

Really, though, it's just subpar fare in a misunderstood (and vaguely defined) style that isn't all that unique or special, and comes from a brewery at least commercial enough to have negotiated prominent product placement in organic grocery stores across Germany. Americans: imagine Buckfast being sold at Whole Foods stores across the U.S., and you start to get an understanding of the tacit lie at the heart of how this beer (and this brewery) is presented.

In short, it's fine.

C (2.89) / AVERAGE
Feb 19, 2016
 
Rated: 4 by ZethOfTheNorth from Louisiana

Oct 03, 2015
 
Rated: 3.09 by duceswild from Heard & McDonald Islands

Jun 19, 2015
 
Rated: 3.4 by Texasfan549 from Texas

Jun 07, 2015
 
Rated: 4.25 by tykechandler from Kentucky

Jun 06, 2015
 
Rated: 3.77 by MLDucky from Texas

Jun 06, 2015
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Reviewed by drmeto from Germany

3.87/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75
L:
-pours a clear deep amber with a medium frothy white head
-medium carbonation visible
S:
earthy,grassy,big caramel,bready,licorish,roasted malt
T:
-caramel,substantial grassy hop note,bready,spicy,clean finish
F:
-medium body,medium carbonation
O:
This is a Vienna Lager,not a Kellerbier.
And its a good one
Apr 30, 2015
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Reviewed by StonedTrippin from Colorado

3.75/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75
on tap at jakes in littleton. this one is a classic, and its nice to see it coming around a little bit. this is a traditional german style we hardly see any of in american craft brewing, so its nice to have something like this periodically. it sort of has the malt build of a maibock, lighter bodied and less caramelized, but still in that mid crystal malt range, very german in the nose, and quite clean, less residual sugar than others. its got some haze to it, but still appears rather bright. bready fresh baked aromatic, with a cool old world yeast strain that is not all the way familiar to me. ancient i assume. there is some sweetness here, a breakfasty sweetness, maple or honey, lighter than other german malt driven brews, but pleasantly distinct too, not so heavy. medium body and fine carbonation, this is a refined and subtle beer, unlike anything available made here in the usa. you have to appreciate stuff like this when it shows up.
Mar 22, 2015
 
Rated: 4.09 by DOCRW from Kentucky

Jan 23, 2015
 
Rated: 3.6 by dcmchew from Romania

Oct 26, 2014
 
Rated: 3.75 by DrBier from Pennsylvania

Jul 27, 2014
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Reviewed by metter98 from New York

3.44/5  rDev -7.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5
On-tap at Brew Dock, Dublin, Ireland

A: The beer is slightly hazy yellowish amber in color and has a light amount of visible carbonation. It poured with a half finger high off white head that died down, leaving a thick collar around the edge of the glass and lots of lacing down the sides.
S: Light aromas of fruity yeast are present in the nose—apples and bananas seem to stand out in particular.
T: Much like the smell, the taste has fruity flavors of yeast, with apples seeming to stand out in particular. Hints of bready malts are also perceptible.
M: It feels light- to medium-bodied and slightly chewy on the palate with a moderate amount of carbonation.
O: This beer didn't seem to have all of the raw yeast flavors that you normally get from a Kellerbier or a Zwickelbier, but the fruity notes from the yeast were pleasant.
Jun 24, 2014
Altfränkisches Klosterbier from Klosterbrauerei Weißenohe
Beer rating: 85 out of 100 with 36 ratings