Ramstein Winter Wheat
High Point Brewing Company

Ramstein Winter WheatRamstein Winter Wheat
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Style:
German Weizenbock
Ranked #5
ABV:
9.5%
Score:
93
Ranked #1,947
Avg:
4.21 | pDev: 11.88%
Reviews:
245
Ratings:
309
From:
High Point Brewing Company
 
New Jersey, United States
Avail:
Winter
Wants
  113
Gots
  10
SCORE
93
Outstanding
Ramstein Winter WheatRamstein Winter Wheat
Notes: Rich creamy head with bouquet of Wheat malt, black current, clove, and apple. Deep full flavors of caramel and chocolate malt balance with hops for a smooth warming character. Smooth malt leads to a subtle alcohol and dark caramel finish. The wonderful balance of this beer provides a complex profile hiding the 9.5% alcohol content. The perfect companion for a cold winter night.
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Reviews by poorbanker:
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5/5  rDev +18.8%

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Photo of Bouleboubier
4.2/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

(on tap at Bridgewater's Pub - served in an Erdinger Weizen glass)

A: fairly clear, dark, air-dried blood crimson... tall stand of compact, creamy-spongy foam... the lack of retention was clearly due to the cleanliness of the glass - did spring up some foam which each big sip

S: invitingly bold dark fruit - plum, mainly - with a good bit of roasty grain poking through... bit of a leafy hop presence and mineral note... not terribly clove-y or yeasty-spicy

T: heavy on dark fruit flavors - kind of like a non-sweet plum or blackberry brandy... fair bit of hop and roast bitterness, though it's relatively mellow and merely serves to dry the beer out a bit... some vague background clove... not at all sweet as far as fruit flavors go and not terribly malty either, which is the biggest snag in its overall quality - would love to have a moderate, balancing doughy/bready flavor - not enough 'yeast' notes, otherwise a fantastic, explosive taste

M: a bit thin and lager-clean/crisp, but on par with what the aromas suggest

O: this tastes a good bit like my homebrew Weizenbock, this one obviously having more developed, dynamic character... really, all this needs is a meaty malt punch.... I would certainly drink this again, preferably in High Point's taproom

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Photo of apintofknowledge
4.4/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Poured thick and dark, reminding me of both a stout and motor oil. The aroma brought forward several very different smells… banana, apple cider and toasted nuts, even a hint of alcohol. Now for the taste… thick and rich, with a multitude of flavors. Sweet caramel, bananas, bittersweet chocolate and toffee were all present. A toasted flavor, like hazelnuts or roasted coffee came through in the finish the more I drank. And the mouthfeel was very nice… full and rich, a little syrupy, with a high amount of carbonation… tiny refreshing bubbles.

Altogether, an extremely enjoyable brew. Not as rich and complex as a dark wheat beer like Aventinus, but because of that it’s much more drinkable, easy to have several over the course of an evening. My only complaint is that it’s a seasonal brew, because I could drink this all year long.

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Photo of oxmasterscream
4.5/5  rDev +6.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Appearance: Deep brown with ruby highlights. Nearly opaque but not quite. The head was gone before I even sat down to drink it.

Smell: Man, what a smell this thing has. Right off, I was overwhelmed by an aroma reminiscent of decomposing leaves, grass or bananas–I'm not sure which one but it was really interesting. Hiding behind that wall were other notes of cloves, molasses, dates, sour cherries and brown sugar. Really complex aroma. I couldn't stop smelling it the whole time I drank it.

Taste: Lots and lots of tastes in this giant. Again, the decomposing something or other showed up in the taste... dark fruits (prunes?), cherries, chocolate chocolate chocolate... Nice, sharp, bitter coffee aftertaste.

Mouthfeel: Solid carbonation and full body leads to a really smooth drink.

Drinkability: It's a huge, delcious beer with layers and layers of flavors and smells. I couldn't have one after another but one a night wouldn't kill anyone. It would go great sitting aside a giant steak or burger or as an after dinner drink. This beer rocks.

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Photo of goodbyeohio
4.28/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

looks like a coke float. nice and dark with some opacity.. hazy, yinyang ring of light haze and some fossilized lacing. smooth appearance. slick. wow does this have a malty smell. all kinds of milk chocolate, banana, caramel, sugar.. reminiscent of new glarus black wheat with a bit more mocha character to it.. a little resistance to the sweetness. nice balance in the nose despite its malt overbearance. mouthfeel is a little light and abrasive carbwise, but the banana and frufy coffee drink combo is a nice one, unique and rich. nice to see a weizenbock type beer maintain its punch but not overdo it on sick sweetness and heavy syrup qualities. this is a really high quality example of the style. it succeeds on the merits of its balance and restraint. kudos to a brewery that ive only been able to begin exploring.

oh, and 9.5%?!? i could drink 3.

thanks to eyedrinkale for the opportunity and whatever BIF that was that we were in.

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Photo of orbitalr0x
4.05/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

The Ramstein Winter Wheat pours from the bottle a deep dark muddy brown milk chocolate color with a rising bubbly head that falls to a ring around the glass. Aromas begin with some rich dark chocolatey malts along with an upfront spiciness featuring bananas and cloves. Some bitter coffee lingers in the background with a nice overall roastiness. Dark fruits abound. Nice.

First sip brings an intensly rich caramelly chocolate maltiness. Deep dark and roasty with a stream of big clove flavors. Hints of banana and yeast flow through each sip as well. Finishes with some dark fruits, raisins and a touch of coffee and hops. A big malty, tasty brew here with mellow notes of wheat grain.

Mouthfeel is thick and chewy with a mega malt presence that fills the mouth. Mellow carbonation works well here. One of the few weizenbocks I've had...this is quite tasty and I wouldn't mind a few in a sitting. This is how I like my wheat beers! Thanks to dmeadows for the opportunity to sample this one.

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Photo of warriorsoul
3.9/5  rDev -7.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to Jetsbeer for this hand delivery...
Pours a thick black with a full finger of light brown head that sticks around for a little while...very little lacing.
Very inviting with first whiffs...roasted malt, fig and delicate spice.
Taste is pretty darn impressive...I believe this is my first weizenbock, so wasn't sure what to expect. That roasty character is very abundent in the flavor with a hint of smoke and a vineous quality with cherries, raisins and more spice than the nose would suggest.
The wheat is balanced nicely and really contributes to the mouthfeel...while this one is quite thick, the carbonation is high and distracts the drinkability for me personally. Really enjoy the flavor and the finish is quite clean, but I would not have more than a couple of these in an evening...just realized the abv is 9.5%...very well hidden and would sneak up real fast.
I would really like to try this on tap and will try to find some more of their offerings in the future.

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Photo of Citadel82
4.8/5  rDev +14%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Whooooahhhh! This is the real deal. Pours a rich Mahogany Brown in my Aventinus Weizenbock glass. Thin tan head raipdly withdraws leaving scattered lace. Smell is of rich moist cake and nuts...fresh bannana nut bread hot from the oven. The taste is malt sweetness drying in long slow finish... heaven. No alcohol in evidence. 9.5% you can't be serious. Butler, NJ who would of thought. My mind turns to road trip north. Growler and cooler in the van.

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Photo of ChainGangGuy
4.13/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Appearance: Served up an almost black body crowned with a tall, proud, lasting tan head.

Smell: Lightly roasty, chocolate-based aroma with notes of dark wheat malt, dark caramel, cracked cloves, and well-ripened dark fruits.

Taste: Mildly, modestly sweet taste of chocolate-coated roasted grains further brushed with a bit of caramel. Slight flourish of tangy malted wheat. Hint of spicy clove character and smoked mingled into the dark fruitiness reminiscent of prunes and black cherries. Very subtle bitterness. Picks up a bit more sweetness as you go. A final touch of roast and dried fruits in the smooth, warming finish.

Mouthfeel: Medium-bodied. Medium-high carbonation.

Drinkability: Good stuff! Presents a good mix of flavors with a well-rounded smoothness. It certainly went down with ease for purportedly being 9.5% ABV.

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Photo of Higravity
4.11/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A welcome sight as the end of winter approaches. A dark body cap breifly by a cream head that sinks back in. Quite a smell of malt and fruit with some roasted notes. Taste slightly berry on top of a wave of malts that are very well coplimentory. It could be quite a unique blend of malts that provides the almost blueberry type flavor. This is qutie enjoyale and with a soft dense body it makes for good drinking.

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Photo of sloejams
4.17/5  rDev -1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

part of Top 100 BIF - thanks to PEBKAC for this one

The pour looks a bit like a root beer though decidedly less carbonated. In the nose, I caught some clove, some raisin and roasted malt. The flavors were nice, adding a fruitiness like chardonnay masked ny a malt foreground. Very interesting and complex.

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Photo of whartontallboy
4.5/5  rDev +6.9%

Photo of edskirk3
3.45/5  rDev -18.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

I'm drinking Winter Wheat in the middle of May. According to the notch, I should enjoy it by August. 2006? Let's just assume.

Pours opaque black with a thin halo of ruby. Cola-like head, shade of mocha.

Scent of chocolate malts, thin notes of banana. Taste is similar, it's not unpleasant. Slight afterbite of weizen yeast. It's an unusual combination, for me at least.

It's a little bit filling, not something to drink in the middle of May. Unless you're in the Southern Hemisphere. It was a little chilly today, but apparently not enough.

Interesting brew, I'll give 'em that.

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Photo of Vancer
4.35/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Whoa! Grabbed this <winter wheat> to enjoy before ball game, figured it would be an easy drinker. But, the pour told me otherwise: a coal black brew with a weak tan head, lacing on the glass. Where’s the abv on this puppy? I know it has to be up there.

Malty, almost porter-like aroma, thick and chewy during the quaffing. The malts, raisons, currant dance around quite nicely. A very sharp bite on the tongue. Still, a very nice surprise – and very enjoyable. A couple 2 or 3 of these would work well in the fall/winter.

Thanks to beerbeing!

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Photo of ChuckD
4.35/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

12 oz brown bottle poured into a chalice. Fresh, firm lacing with staying power. Body is a lovely dark brown/black.

To the nose, the malts jump out at you. Along with the sweetness is the wheat top and other fruitiness that is difficult to peg. Lots of things going on here - the harbinger of taste galore.

In the mouth, the taste is incredible. Huge malitness and alcohol, but clean, smooth and juicy. Wonderful layers and layers of flavor -with the sweetness always holding on.

The body and feel are huge. Chewy and substantial - it is unbelievable that a beer this strong can have the full body taste with a cripy, dry finish.

Musings: This is one of the most memorable beers you will ever drink. As you finish the first one, you find it hard to believe the strength. An amazing beer.

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Photo of outdoorbrewer
4.7/5  rDev +11.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Winter is finally getting cold as this season beers get hot!
Such is the case - Ramstein Winter Wheat spans all the senses at once.
Roasted malt clove enhanced mixed aromas of molasses,chocolate,coffee blending with a citrus real ale hop nose over a dark dough bread.
Poured an off-white creamy head showing good lacing on top of a dark ruby red clear liquid that appears brown in the glass.
The flavor starts out tasting of roasted malts clove spice to chocolate with a long moderately sweet finish having amble body creamy texture and a hidden alcohol finish.
Very enjoyable!
I'll save a few to add to my vintage beer collection

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Photo of bjohnson
4.55/5  rDev +8.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Big thanks to goodbyeohio for this unexpected offering.

A: Pours a mix between dark brown and plum. Nice initial caramel colored one finger head. Dissipates quickly leaving a thin rim around the edge of the glass.
S: Plum and dark fruit sweetness emanates from the glass. Good background of malt.
T/M: Sweet at fruit mostly from the dark fruit. Nice wheat malty interlude with a twang of hops possibly? Slight sweet caramel notes also--a bit tarty. Exceptionally smooth and quite easy drinking for such a large beer. Good body. Wheatylike finish with notes of spices, cloves mostly
D: Glad I had the chance to try this fine brew. Although the abv is high it's not felt right away, although the warming of the chest has me rethinking my tune...

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Photo of BEERchitect
3.92/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A solid Weizenbock that favors the more 'bock-like' character over the wheat. Very complex and flavorful.

The pour delivers a solid brown hue with a timid lace of a head. Lacking staying power, the foam seems to never completely diminish. Light legging on the beer shows its strength of alcohol and sweetness.

Very complex aromas cover the gammot from chocolates, nuts, and toast to esters of cherries, dates, raisons, and figs. Red wine alcohols give a slight vinous note as if aged in an oak barrel.

Flavors continue the complex and integrated character, leading the way with malty rich toffee/molassas, chocolate, toast-breads, and nutty flavors. The fruity esters give a mix of acidic cherries, grapes, and stone fruits. Again, the red wine notes make great impact going into the finish.

The well integrated carbonation leads to a weighted and creamy texture, though fleeting late. Malty and robust up front but the beer's sweetness gives way to a dry, alcoholic, and acidic note that boarders on mild astringencies.

Ramstein Winter Wheat is a fantastic Weizenbock that exhibits the deep chocolate and fruity aspects of the style and religates the wheat flavor and feel to supportive roles only.

Thanks Mikeyv35!

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Photo of Risser09
1.98/5  rDev -53%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

12 oz bottle poured into a snifter - Fridge temp - 2008

Appearance: Pours a dark black/brown with a 1" light brown head. Decent retention is shown and swirling creates some lacing. Mostly tiny bubbles make up the head.

Smell: What malt, slight hoppiness and a bit of funkiness. Underlying sweetness and actually some fruitiness. I can also pick up some aromatic alcohol.

Taste: Mostly flavored with wheat and also a deep malty flavor. There is a bandaid flavor that could indicate infection or oxidation. A slight fruity flavor adds a much needed element.

Mouthfeel: Boozy, slightly sugary, and rough in the mouth. The beer is just abrasive. Probably infected.

Drinkability: An okay beer. The flavors are under-developed, flat and not approachable. The finish is dry and flat. Not worth it.

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Photo of Toddv29424
3.63/5  rDev -13.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Beer pours a dark, dark brown color with a minimal head. The smell is really malty, with a pruney note as well. Taste is good as well, but I feel like it lacks a substantial body. There is a good amount of terrific outer tastes, but as far as a cohesive body there is none. The outer notes include chicory, dark malts, and molasses. Overall a good beer, but nothing that I would go out of my way to find.

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Photo of mushroomcloud
4.35/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A - 1 1/2" tan head (hangs around for awhile) on top of a dark brown to black beer. Really an outstanding color for a dark wheat beer. Some lace.

S - Chocolate. Clove. Some other things present that I can't pin down. Full, rich aroma overall.

T - Yeast. Tart. Earthy, roasted flavor. Coffee. Sweet. Clove. Touch of banana. Excellent, great balance and blend of flavors. All kinds of tastes going on here.

M - Rich, full mouthfeel. Slick. Low to medium carbonation.

D - Amazing beer. Drinkability is awesome. One of the best dunkelweizens I have had. Thanks xcjetta!

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Photo of blackie
4.44/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

a: light khaki head over a deep, gorgeously dark chestnut brown colored ale, light showing only through the edges, good retention

s: rich, sugary toasted wheat malts with a smooth dry chocolate undercurrent, estery yeast gives ripe banana, baked red apple spiced with clove and nutmeg, the boozy brown sugar sauce and sweet fruit marriage of a bananas foster, reduction of dark tree fruits - prune, date, and black fig; superb aroma with a ridiculously complex interplay of malty rich fruits and spicy, estery weizen yeast

m: light, smooth carbonation and full body

t: absolutely thick and delicious with brown sugar and banana flavors, weizen yeast brings a strong flavor of clove, dark toasted wheat, dried plums and black mission figs, smooth toffee and dark chocolate, tons going on here

d: a sipping-weight beer that goes down all too easy, pleasantly intoxicating after a long day and night

32 oz. swingtop growler from New Beer Distributors in Lower East Side Manhattan, filled by the brewer who happened to be in-store sampling his stuff, I preferred this beer over the Eisbock - for which this is the base

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Photo of klewis
3.78/5  rDev -10.2%
look: 2 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Thanks to beerbeing for this one.

A: Pours a deep brown with a soda-like head that quickly fizzes away to nothing. Zero lacing.

S: Aromas of port, prunes, and a subtle dose of alcohol.

T: Sweet and fruity taste up front with grapey flavors. This taste quickly fades to reveal an earthy espresso-like flavor and bitterness and a healthy dose of alcohol. Overall, the flavor is thinner than I would expect from a weizenbock.

M: Medium-light body with a sticky and syrupy texture. Fizzy carbonation seems a bit inappropriate for the style and detracts from the taste.

D: Not bad, but this one didn't really meet my expectations. More body, less fizziness, and a fatter flavor profile would make this a hell of a beer.

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Photo of emerge077
3.95/5  rDev -6.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Thanks to PEBKAC for this one.

Pours into a weizen glass a deep reddish brown, that is nearly opaque. Two fingers of dark tan foam rises up and sticks around for a good while.

Slight tartness in the aroma, some wheat and sweeter notes too.

Very malty, nutty with some estery banana and dried fruit. Lingering smokiness is there too, behind the main attributes. Tobacco/leather is very mild in the aftertaste. Smooth mouthfeel from the yeast content, but the light tartness conflicts a little with the creaminess.

Wow, I wouldn't have guessed 9.50% on this one...hides it well! Bottom line, it's tasty and worth trying, though my favorite US version is still Victory Moonglow.

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Photo of russpowell
3.69/5  rDev -12.4%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Got this from PEBCAK, cheers Adam!

Pours an effervescent ebony with a finger of caramel colored head, drops away lickety-split. Viscious look to this, minimal head retention & lacing

S: Slight dark fruittyness & leafy hops

T: Pruneyness, cherries, dryness & a slight cola twang mixes with leafy hops, & a slight boozey raisiny vibe up front. Leafy hops, prunes & slight smokey molasess flavors as this warms, along with some boozey warmth. Finishes warming, raisiny, with dryness & a touch of dark chocolate, plus figgyness

MF: Light/medium bodied, fairly assertive carbonation, & nice warming feel

Drinks fairly easy, for the style. Would love to try this fresh to se the contrast, seems slightly off style, but agreeable enough

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Ramstein Winter Wheat from High Point Brewing Company
Beer rating: 93 out of 100 with 309 ratings