Ramstein Winter Wheat | High Point Brewing Company

BA SCORE
92
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304 Ratings
Ramstein Winter WheatRamstein Winter Wheat
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
High Point Brewing Company
New Jersey, United States
ramsteinbeer.com

Style: Weizenbock

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 9.50%

Availability: Winter

Notes / Commercial Description:
Rich creamy head with bouquet of Wheat malt, black current, clove, and apple. Deep full flavors of caramel and chocolate malt balance with hops for a smooth warming character. Smooth malt leads to a subtle alcohol and dark caramel finish. The wonderful balance of this beer provides a complex profile hiding the 9.5% alcohol content. The perfect companion for a cold winter night.

Added by xlperro on 04-17-2002

BEER STATS
Ratings:
304
Reviews:
243
Avg:
4.16
pDev:
12.02%
 
 
Wants:
113
Gots:
9
For Trade:
0
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Photo of GeoffFromSJ
4.42/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

I am going to use Aventinus as a baseline. That isn't quite fair, since they are two distinct beers. But since Aventinus defines the style, I don't think it is too much of a stretch.

Much darker. Black. A lot more chocolate malt must have been used in this beer than in Aventinus. A lot of the tastes remind me of a porter. Chocolate malt roastiness is in there. Weizen esters are in there but they aren't as strong. Sort of a porter/stout with esters. Different and very tasty.

This hides the alcohol percentage well.

I was torn on how to rate the appearance. Nice big head into nice lacing. But the lacing isn't good enough to warrant a higher rating. No matter. This beer transcends raw scores.

Although this beer will get a lower rating, I like it better than Aventinus. Frankly, it is the subjective thing of having something porter-like with esters instead of the esters predominating.

For such a small brewery, this is such a good beer. Always in demand. And, if you like the style, well worth getting.

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Photo of TastyTaste
4.54/5  rDev +9.1%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A very dark weizenbock, letting no light through, and having only a minimal head after the impressive pour. Smell is sweet and brown sugary, with banana. Smooth, sweet, like dessert. Taste is roasted and fairly strong, carmel, with alcohol well hidden, only providing a subtle tingle in the background. Mouthfeel is fairly smooth, not much carbonation, with a little sharp carbonation. A good weizenbock, rich and delicious, but falls short of my all-time favorite, Skyline Weizenbock.

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Photo of Gavage
4.4/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Appearance: pours a brownish burgandy color with some bronze highlights. A nice 1.5" tan head slowly falls to a thick surface foam. Some spotty lacing develops during the session.

Smell: roasted tones, grassy wheat, and cherries.

Taste: Nice thick maltiness with huge prune and cherry flavor, and add in some wheat, alcohol, and a hearty bitterness to round out a very flavorful brew. Overall dryness throughout.

Mouthfeel: medium-heavy in body, and crisp and dry throughout.

Drinkability: Nicely drinkable, but alcohol creeps in a bit as it warms. Drinking a few of these slowly can be an easy task. This is a wonderful beer everyone should seek out.

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Photo of joeskirkie
4/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

The six pack holder is a Ramstein Hefe-Weizen six pack holder, but wherever it says "Classic Wheat Beer" theres a sticker placed over it that says "Winter Wheat Doppelbock"

I'm, needless to say, confused. But as for the beer itself, beautiful. Black as night. It's robust, strong, long-lasting tan head developed aggressively, watch out.

An aroma of cholcolate-covered cherries, it's so very very tempting.

Taste: roasted caramel, can they even do that? A very slight aftertaste thats hints of alcohol.

It's kinda dry and theres a good amount of carbonation. I'm left very satisfied. I know the stickers say Dopplebock but I think I can agree with the Weizenbock classification given here (yeah it's not a hard leap to make). I could so totally have another one of these, but I'd need to space them out. Oh but is it ever good.

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Photo of Prufrock
3.2/5  rDev -23.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

12 oz. bottle into a pilsner.

pitch brown with half an inch of foamy light brown head that leaves little lacing.

sweet, bready aroma with a touch of smoke and some cloves. strong vanilla undertones and a touch of soy sauce.

medium carbonation and a smooth, medium body. touch of soy sauce in the flavor is slightly distracting, but otherwise nice; a touch of chocolate, breadiness, some dark fruits, and alcohol. soy flavors begin to dominate the others as it warms. very drinkable, but nothing so compelling that i'd want another.

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Photo of ChuckD
4.35/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

12 oz brown bottle poured into a chalice. Fresh, firm lacing with staying power. Body is a lovely dark brown/black.

To the nose, the malts jump out at you. Along with the sweetness is the wheat top and other fruitiness that is difficult to peg. Lots of things going on here - the harbinger of taste galore.

In the mouth, the taste is incredible. Huge malitness and alcohol, but clean, smooth and juicy. Wonderful layers and layers of flavor -with the sweetness always holding on.

The body and feel are huge. Chewy and substantial - it is unbelievable that a beer this strong can have the full body taste with a cripy, dry finish.

Musings: This is one of the most memorable beers you will ever drink. As you finish the first one, you find it hard to believe the strength. An amazing beer.

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Photo of MUSHROOMCLOUD
4.35/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A - 1 1/2" tan head (hangs around for awhile) on top of a dark brown to black beer. Really an outstanding color for a dark wheat beer. Some lace.

S - Chocolate. Clove. Some other things present that I can't pin down. Full, rich aroma overall.

T - Yeast. Tart. Earthy, roasted flavor. Coffee. Sweet. Clove. Touch of banana. Excellent, great balance and blend of flavors. All kinds of tastes going on here.

M - Rich, full mouthfeel. Slick. Low to medium carbonation.

D - Amazing beer. Drinkability is awesome. One of the best dunkelweizens I have had. Thanks xcjetta!

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Photo of warriorsoul
3.9/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to Jetsbeer for this hand delivery...
Pours a thick black with a full finger of light brown head that sticks around for a little while...very little lacing.
Very inviting with first whiffs...roasted malt, fig and delicate spice.
Taste is pretty darn impressive...I believe this is my first weizenbock, so wasn't sure what to expect. That roasty character is very abundent in the flavor with a hint of smoke and a vineous quality with cherries, raisins and more spice than the nose would suggest.
The wheat is balanced nicely and really contributes to the mouthfeel...while this one is quite thick, the carbonation is high and distracts the drinkability for me personally. Really enjoy the flavor and the finish is quite clean, but I would not have more than a couple of these in an evening...just realized the abv is 9.5%...very well hidden and would sneak up real fast.
I would really like to try this on tap and will try to find some more of their offerings in the future.

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Photo of weeare138
4.47/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Appears a black with a dark chestnut hue. A creamy 2 finger tan head floats on the top and slowly fades into a mild film and thick, creamy collar. Spotty lacing is left around the glass.
Smell is of vanilla, caramel, clove, chocolate, raisins, wheat, and perhaps a hint of coffee.
Taste is a creamy blend of the above aromas with a mild fruity clove finish.
Mouthfeel is creamy and smooth with a semi-dry finish that is of delicate yeast, spice, fruit, and chocolate.

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Photo of Gueuzedude
4.27/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

As I pours this dark brew a fresh aroma of banana bread wafts to my nose. The beer is topped by a frothy, one-finger thick, brown colored head that sits atop a dark, purplish-brown colored beer that might be more aptly described as black. The aroma is fresh, with a nice wheat tartness, definite notes of clove, and a sweet plum like fruitiness. As the beer warms it begins to pick up a soft note reminiscent of chocolate and a hint of roasted coffee beans.

The taste has a definite sweetness up front, but it is soft and reminds me of a just ripe plum. As this beer moves to the finish it picks up tart wheat notes and a nice hint of coffee and roast grain. The roasted note is what really lingers here, like a slightly astringent, burnt barley husk. There is some spicy clove notes here as well as a hint of banana like notes. This beer really has a nice fruit character to it; along with the sweet plum notes I also get notes of raisins, and notes reminiscent of fresh figs. I really like how this seems to be light on the palate, yet still has a mouthcoating richness to it. It is definitely not a light beer, but there is something about the creamy smoothness of this beer which gives it that sort of feel.

This beer is definitely quite nice, it strikes a good balance between rich flavors of fruit, spice and roast and still being quite quaffable. The only drawback here is a slight, burnt grain astringency in the finish, and this is fairly subtle.

Holy Sh!#, I just looked at the alcohol content. One thing I have got to say for this beer, I would never have guessed it was anywhere near 9% alcohol; it really hides it quite well.

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Photo of JerzDevl2000
4.38/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Toured the brewery a week ago - they had a free tasting as well and I've wanted to see what was up there. Picked this up before heading home, seeing that it wasn't easy to find in retail outlets and it got good reviews on here. This is the first weizenbock that I've tasted, and I must admit that it was pretty intriguing!

Beer poured a very dark brown, with a hint of purple in it. Head filled right up to the top of my mug, and the lacing has been pretty impressive as well. Looks a bit like a stout, but it doesn't really taste like one. The chocolate presence isn't as strong as the caramel, toffee, malt, and wheat that blend together to make for a very soothing and addicting taste. The mouthfeel is wonderful - each sip foams right up and the aftertaste is warm, but only bitter enough to leave you wanting more. No making faces at the taste and there aren't any spices to mask the results of the unfiltering. The taste and mouthfeel are very natural, pleasing, and warming all at once!

I really felt warmed up drinking this, which isn't the case with most "winter warmers". I may not have hit this style on the head, since it's relatively new to me, but I'd recommend this brew to anyone looking to warm up on a cold winter's day or expand their beer-drinking horizions. One couldn't go wrong either way!

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Photo of ithacabaron
4.47/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a sedate, deep brown, with a relatively thin body into my glass. A small yet solid head rises and falls down to a coating on top of the brew.

Aroma is oooh -- nice. Mushrooms, leather, braised pot roast, tobacco. Awesome smell.

As for taste...caramel, uncured leather, and just a hint of the banana to let you know what you're dealing with. Manages to be smoky, sweet, fruity, and to be all of these things at the same time, nothing overwhelming or dominating the conversation. And that's what this is, a conversation, an excellent arrangement of elements. Damn nice.

Mouthfeel is right where it should be, not too heavy, not too sharp. Nice crisp finish.

9.5%? Get out of town! No way. Drinks like a 6% dunkelweizen. Very nice.

What a great brew. I've really been grooving on the German styles recently, and this is just another reason to celebrate that brewing heritage. And from an American brewery, too! Beer is limitless in its possiblities, and we're living in the golden age. Huge thanks to blitheringidiot for this brew -- really got me back in the game -- a "wow" brew that I didn't see coming.

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Photo of BeerBuilder
4.59/5  rDev +10.3%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours to deep brown, pretty much black color with just a ring of light brown for a head. The aroma is awesome and unusual, I've never smelt any brew like this. I get the chocolate, and banana with a bit of clove. I detect a bit of roasty and smokiness as well. I get almost a peanut butter aroma too. Very nice.

The flavor is like a chocolate covered fried peanut and banana sandwich, with a bit of smokiness in the back. It is full in body, yet drinkable with an alcohol warmth at the end.

A big thank to cousin Stubob for sharing the one with me. Very nice.

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Photo of kmpitz2
4.48/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

From a 6 oz sample out of a 12 oz bottle. Pours a deep deep brown color with ruby hues. No real head is there, just a light ring. Very dark and mysterious look about it. Nose is chocolate covered alcohol soaked banana. Just aqpuff of alcohol is in there. Solid. The flavor is very mellow. Banana and cream are very prevalent with a more subdued background of fig and chocolate. No hint of alcohol. Very tasty. The feel is thick with just a hint of carbonation. Very satisfying feel. Overall, a highly drinkable beer. I'd like a touch more of an edge on the dark malt. I would drink this again.

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Photo of SheepNutz
4.65/5  rDev +11.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Kev is a champ! Breaking this out after Raspberry Eisbock??? INSANE! 12oz. bottle poured into a snifter. It pours a deep brown, almost black color with one finger of head that dies down quickly. There is no lacing. The smell is full of wheat malt, yeast, and spices. It has lots of cloves, and a nice roasty character. The taste is fantastic as well. It has a lot of roasted malt and bready flavors up front. There is just a little bit of the classic banana and clove in there as well. Very deep and complex, with just a hint of alcohol on the finish. The mouthfeel is incredibly strong, yet smooth. The drinkability is awesome for such a strong beer. Truely unique. My hat's off to Kev. He is king.

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Photo of clvand0
4.57/5  rDev +9.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Pours a brown color with a small head that falls quickly and doesn't leave any lacing on the glass. The aroma is mostly dark malts and lots of fruitiness. Slight coffee aromas as well. The flavor is very nice - lots of chocolate and some fruits and a little coffee. Very smooth and tasty. The mouthfeel is thick and the drinkability is very good.

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Photo of goodbyeohio
4.28/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

looks like a coke float. nice and dark with some opacity.. hazy, yinyang ring of light haze and some fossilized lacing. smooth appearance. slick. wow does this have a malty smell. all kinds of milk chocolate, banana, caramel, sugar.. reminiscent of new glarus black wheat with a bit more mocha character to it.. a little resistance to the sweetness. nice balance in the nose despite its malt overbearance. mouthfeel is a little light and abrasive carbwise, but the banana and frufy coffee drink combo is a nice one, unique and rich. nice to see a weizenbock type beer maintain its punch but not overdo it on sick sweetness and heavy syrup qualities. this is a really high quality example of the style. it succeeds on the merits of its balance and restraint. kudos to a brewery that ive only been able to begin exploring.

oh, and 9.5%?!? i could drink 3.

thanks to eyedrinkale for the opportunity and whatever BIF that was that we were in.

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Photo of orbitalr0x
4.05/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

The Ramstein Winter Wheat pours from the bottle a deep dark muddy brown milk chocolate color with a rising bubbly head that falls to a ring around the glass. Aromas begin with some rich dark chocolatey malts along with an upfront spiciness featuring bananas and cloves. Some bitter coffee lingers in the background with a nice overall roastiness. Dark fruits abound. Nice.

First sip brings an intensly rich caramelly chocolate maltiness. Deep dark and roasty with a stream of big clove flavors. Hints of banana and yeast flow through each sip as well. Finishes with some dark fruits, raisins and a touch of coffee and hops. A big malty, tasty brew here with mellow notes of wheat grain.

Mouthfeel is thick and chewy with a mega malt presence that fills the mouth. Mellow carbonation works well here. One of the few weizenbocks I've had...this is quite tasty and I wouldn't mind a few in a sitting. This is how I like my wheat beers! Thanks to dmeadows for the opportunity to sample this one.

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Photo of tgbljb
2.8/5  rDev -32.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

poured a deep brown reddish color with moderate tannish creamy head. Smellmwas of dark fruits (plums, raisins) mixed with malt. Taste was strongly alcololic and very over-powering to the senses. Finish was malty but not a taste I liked. After all the high prasie for this beer, I was very dissapointed. Maybe I'll try another year's batch.

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Photo of HardTarget
3.58/5  rDev -13.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottle Inspection: Jul notched at the side, but no year. Why, WHY don’t they put a year?

Aroma: Condensed wheat, light notes of bitter coffee.

Appearance: Viscous with thick legs, the creamed coffee head lasted for about 2 seconds then dropped to a thin collar that didn’t lace. Glass was dark brown when tipped to see clarity, but opaque when standing.

Flavor: Sweet, with hints of corn sugar. Papery- I’m pretty sure we got last years’ bottle, but there’s no way to tell, is there? The flaw faded somewhat as it warmed, but never really left. It’s a Weizenbock with a lot of stout characteristics, some roasted grain, some light coffee. A weizenstout? Some grape and raisin notes late in the game.

Mouthfeel: Medium heavy body, viscous as promised, slightly syrupy which lingers in the mouth.

Overall Impression: Flawed beauty. Great beer, rich, flavorful, filling, but that papery edge really was bothersome. Brewery didn’t list the year, in my book that means they take the hit.

Another “thanks” to Pegasus for sharing the bottle

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Photo of Pegasus
3.95/5  rDev -5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: Deep mahogony in color, with no highlights, little head to speak of, a persistent white collar, and scattered patches of foam, small lacing.

Aroma: Coffe, dark caramel, bitter chocolate, dark fruit, and black bread. In all, the aroma is deep, rich, and very appealing.

Taste: Rich chocolate, coffee, and dark caramel througtout. The chocolate and coffee flavors are particularly appealing. Beneath those superb flavors, there is a distracting note of tart wheat, which seems to detract from the coffee and chocolate notes.

Mouth feel: Smooth and soft on the palette, fairly full, with zesty carbonation.

Drinkability/notes: Very pleasing, although the tart note beneath the surface in the taste seemed slightly oppressive as the tasting progressed. I am made to wonder if this sample had suffered in transport or storage. Still, its one I would like to try again. A word to the wise, the alcoholic content of this beer is very well disguised, it seemed only a little stronger than a typical beer.

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Photo of nvsblman
4.44/5  rDev +6.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a dark chocolate brown with very little head. The aroma is full of chocolate, molasses, and caramel. A little bit of coffee and fruitiness to go along with some clove spiciness too. Roasted malts are the first thing I taste. Also some currants, caramel, brown sugar, cloves, and just enough hops for a nice balance. A medium mouthfeel with light carbonation, I found myself drinking this one pretty quickly!

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Photo of Foxman
4.72/5  rDev +13.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

It pours a deep lustrous brown, with flashes of ruby breaking through, but rather nondescript. A finger of light brown, tight head lifts and settles in a quick cycle. Flares of lacing loop down the glass.

The aroma carries lithe tendrils of black cherry, dried fruit in general, currants specifically, and is backed by a body of dark chocolate. A very slight sour fruit note lurks, and works with the rest to allow no more than a fleeting glimpse of the alcohol within.

On first sip, what seems sure to be a cascade of dense sweetness showers the palate, but in a fascinating twist, that sweetness is promptly mitigated by the flavors that bear it, giving evidence to a strong but silky procession of dark cherries, currants, dried fruit, butterscotch, vanilla, and yes, as the bottle suggests, apple. These bland as they progress, then give way slightly to allow a a drier, more bitter element again bringing to mind dark chocolate. As the close draws near a more sour cherry hint swings in along with a crisp grain presence of wheat. The merest allusion to alcohol is all that exists in the flavor, and the finish is a warming melange of earthy fruit sweetness and roasted grain bitterness. Tremendously smooth, balanced, and blended, it's a blessing to the taste buds.

Medium bodied, the pieces mesh together to slide in a velvety swirl across the palate, leaving the ever so slight tingle of dryness on the tongue as it fades. It caresses, pets, and lingers.

I've been worshipping this beer all winter, and just got the inkling that I was at last worthy to review it.
While its facade is nice enough, it's like a well-kept but unremarkable storefront that masks behind it a treasure trove of wonder and delight.
It's fetching, alluring, tempting, decadent, and a whole host of other splendid adjectives. The bright lights of the aroma draw you in, and the spectacle of the flavor keeps your palate's attention riveted to the last. And as the curtain drops, you feel as though you've been stroked into some ethereal bliss. Well, ok, maybe not quite something that transcendant, but damn, it is truly masterful. Now, the one caution is to take care, because that strident ABV is well-masked, to say the least, and it would seriously lay some hurt on you if you're reckless. Still, it could have twice the alcohol, and drinking another is something that no amount of good sense could batter down every time.
While not prone to the most poignant of superlatives, this one indeed left me inspired.

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Photo of ppoitras
4.32/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

12oz bottle from jcalbi as part of BIFXV. Thanks for the opportunity. 2003 bottling.

Poured into an imperial pint glass, formed a 1/4" tan head above the clear, barely translucent reddish dark brown brew. Head quickly fades to layer of bubbles, and exhibits average lacing. Aroma is dark, malty sweetness, coupled with heavy, vinous fruits, and a bit of an alcohol tinge. Taste is all the nose indicated, and more so. Creaminess just makes the mouthfeel a dream, and drinkability benefits from both complexity, which induces revisiting for me, and just the ease with which it goes down.

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Photo of SaunaKing
4.17/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

dark brown with decent fizzy head with a vigorous pour.
head retention is minimal.
head is a tan coffee colour
when held in sunlight you can see it is very cloudy & murky


aroma is of cloves & bannana with a hint of the malt in the background.
a traditional wheat beer aroma


most dominant taste is coffee, a little burnt malt and very mild hop presence.

mouthfeel is nice - kind of heavy, not really much carbontion of note. Like a syrup or oil.

Drinkability is good, even with the elevated abv.

A very good wheat beer in my opinion.

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Ramstein Winter Wheat from High Point Brewing Company
4.16 out of 5 based on 304 ratings.
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