Cuvee Freddy | Picobrouwerij Alvinne

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Brewed by:
Picobrouwerij Alvinne
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Style: Flanders Oud Bruin

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 8.00%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
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Added by ShadesOfGray on 07-15-2010

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77
Ratings:
296
Avg:
3.99
pDev:
19.8%
 
 
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Photo of thagr81us
4.12/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Served from bottle into a Duck-Rabbit stemmed snifter. Poured a massively dark brown (basically black) with a minimal light tan head. Maintained decent lacing throughout the glass. The aroma was comprised of sweet malt, tart cherry, acetic acid, and tart. The flavor was of sweet malt, tart cherry, caramel, wood, and subtle sour. It had a medium feel on the palate with medium carbonation. Overall this was a pretty good brew. This brew really threw me off as it smelled as if it would be much more sour/tart than it actually was. This one did have the tart/sour aspect going on, but it was not the dominant flavor in it at all. The flavors that were present really did a nice job of working together and enhancing one another. Just wish there would have been a little bit of the acetic acid present that I picked up on in the aroma. Defintely worth trying if you get the opportunity.

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Photo of jrenihan
3.76/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

No date on bottle.

Not much of a sound when the bottle opened- either this beer is just not very carbonated or it has been lost. The beer is very dark brown and there is no head whatsoever.

Smell contains lots of oak and a tart, port-like dark fruit smell.

Taste is quite tart, lots of oak. Resembles balsamic vinegar, with the addition of a vinous, winey flavour. Aftertaste is fairly sour and not particularly pleasant.

Medium bodied, totally flat. Quite astringent. Unfortunate.

Reading other reviews, it is clear both that (a) this beer is not meant to be as flat as it is, and (b) this is a not uncommon problem with this beer. In the state that I got it, it is not particuarly good, with the body really being a problem. Properly bottled, this might be much better.

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Photo of woosterbill
3.79/5  rDev -5%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to Chris for sharing this at a tasting. Poured into a Weyerbacher tulip.

A: Muddy brown body with some frothy tan bubbles. Forgettable.

S: Clear, sharp acetic acid, cherry, and light malty sweetness. Quite nice, if not as complex as it could be.

T: Red wine vinegar, vanilla, bready malt, and a sweet, sticky finish. Good sweet + sour balance.

M: Sticky medium body with light carbonation. Not bad, but not quite good either.

D: A little too sticky and sweet to be really drinkable; where's the barrel?

Notes: While this was quite an enjoyable beer, it kind of got lost in the haze of other awesome brews at the tasting. I'm entering this review less than a week later, and I really can't remember anything beyond what I've written in my notes. This was a decent, but totally forgettable, Oud Bruin. I'm really glad I got to try it, of course, and I look forward to sampling more from what seems to be an innovative, interesting brewery.

Cheers!

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Photo of Zach136
4/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A- mostly clear and on the red spectrum of red-brown.

S- light roast and oak over dark fruit preserve.

T - palate is more of the same. Heavy oak, medium acidity.

M - dry, tannic finish.

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Photo of wedge
4.19/5  rDev +5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Very dark brown color topped with a moderate frothy tan head. Fruity balsamic-like aroma...sherry, cherries, grapes, blackberries, and raisins. Just a bit of chocolate, but otherwise not much from the malt. Increasing dry oaky notes as it warms. Big time tart fruity flavor, very silky, and delightfully sweet and sour. Black cherries, berries, oak barrel, and a little red wine. Very soft, "floaty" mouthfeel with a solid lingering tartness, finishing dry. Sticks to the teeth. Excellent.

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Photo of Sludgeman
3.97/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.75

$5.99 for 11.2 oz at Arrow Wine. Poured into a small stemmed flute.

Generally a clean tasting beer with a bit of cherry. Some sherry-like qualities without the high ABV. 3.75

A – Pours a brown, slightly reddish but clear with almost zero head. What little there was is tan. Coats the glass. Alcohol legs. Good body visually. 3.5

S – Sweet and sour, lactic, sour cherry, black cherry. 4

T – Malty sourness but not pucker sour, zero identifiable bitterness, woody/oaky/lactic finish. 4

MF – Medium body, slightly sweet, a little creaminess in the finish. 4.5

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Photo of cjgiant
4.08/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Pours a brown, or a very deep burgundy, with fair amount of head.
The smell is pretty much as expected: a light tartness pervades. These tart notes are of Granny Smith and maybe a little lime also. I think I get some if the oak (but that could be power of suggestion, maybe even a hint of alcohol to remind me if bourbon, but very faint.

The beer is not overly sour, but it's far from weak, also. I think a nice amount of tart funkiness to drive the taste. I get the citrus bite a little more than in the smell, but do also get tart apple. This bite fades to a taste that I wish came on a little more. I do get a bit of woodiness, and it seems to want to have a little fig, but never quite gets there. The taste after this seems to fade pretty quickly, a light residual wood feel in the end.

This is a beer that won't overpower you, but has enough sour bite up front to be worthy of another try (although it was on the expensive side).

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Photo of patre_tim
4.11/5  rDev +3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Dark brown, cherry, and watery with a glassy look to it. Topped with a finger of brownish red head.

Barrel comes in immediately. Oaky, scotch, sour balsamic, raspberry like quality. Earthy, dark chocolate quality.

Sour, earthy, oaky, velvety. Not overly sour almost as if there is a hint of sweetness cutting the acid a bit.

Light, slightly watery body, very light carbonation.

My wife picked this up for $6 at Bruis'in Ales in Asheville. Drank in Chiang Mai, Thailand Feb 3rd, 2016. Amazing nose, great taste. Overall, a must try beer for the style.

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Photo of Roguer
4.21/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Clear brown brew topped by a tan head. Gusher of a brew; good head size; great retention and nice lacing.

Sharp, vinegar and oak aroma, laced with tannins and grape. A touch of caramel.

Tart flavor, but not overly so, really allowing the malt flavors to come through. Dark fruit and dark bread, oak and tannins, red grapes, and grainy brown sugar peeking through on the finish.

Very fizzy mouthfeel; slick and very drinkable. Nice sour qualities, puckering (especially on the finish), but very subdued.

This is a very nice Oud Bruin, bringing a lot of flavor to the table without being overwhelmingly tart.

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Photo of oglmcdgl
4.1/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A bottle split with friends with a ton of baller cheese.

A- two fingers of tan head from steady pour. Ruddy dark brown in color with hints of copper at the edges.

S- deep rich oak notes with dark stone fruit and a mild tart and sour hit.

T funky oak barrel and tart stone fruits. Quite vinous. Sweet and roasty at times with a subtle lactic sour.

M- medium body with a light carb. Very big tannin quality that dries the mouth.

D- lovely stuff mildly sour and rich. With a nice complex depth.

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Photo of SpdKilz
4/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance – Pours an almost opaque color into a generic tulip. Slight red can be shown around the edges but overall, this sucker is practically impenetrable by light. Less than a finger of very quickly dissipating head is achieved with a decent pour, that leaves little lacing.

Smell – Acidic characteristics up front, red wine vinegar, sour cherry, granny smith apples, slight vanilla (an odd yet pleasant aroma I was not expecting), and of course lots of funk.

Taste – Red wine up front – the initial taste reminds me of consecration but not on the same level/caliber to be honest. Dark fruits such as cherries and plums, more sweet malts and oak come through midway, and at the end is just the hint of vanilla. The warmer this gets, the more the tart/sour cherries come through. However, not to be a downer or a negative nancy, this just isn’t on par with what I was expecting. I was hoping it to be a bit more mouth puckering and what not. Perhaps one with age...

Mouthfeel – Low (too low in my opinion) carbonation, medium bodied.

Overall – A good flanders, and one I’d honestly pick up in the future to see what age would do to it. I’m in the process of trying to find RR replacements now that I’m back in IL, and this one may have to do for a Consecration Also wish there was a bit more carbonation.

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Photo of Chico1985
3.89/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Thanks to Dan for sharing this at a sour-themed tasting. 2012 bottle.

A - Dark red pour with a beige head, so-so retention as a thick ring, leaves spots of lace.

S - Red wine grapes are the most prevalent, good amount of oak and general dark fruit (cherries, raisins) as well. Nice tartness and pretty decent strength overall.

T - A bit more going on here than the scent. Red wine still leads the way, a bit of the Podge showing through now with chocolate and roasty tones, blends nicely with the Flanders flavors. Medium tartness, light vinegar, some lactic sourness, oak, vanilla, raisins, cherry coke.

M - Somewhat lacking in the body, could be smoother. Some booze showing through, carbonation is fine, average drinkability.

O - Nice interesting flanders. The red wine barrel is nice, the stout notes are on the fainter end but also add a nice touch.

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Photo of facesnorth
3.01/5  rDev -24.6%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.25

Color is a dark red. Zero head, zero bubbles. No sound when I opened it. Totally flat, no carbonation. Taste is astringent vinegar with tart cherries and oak. Very disappointed by this one. Judging by other reviews I can see many others who had a similar experience. Someone suggested it was a bad bottling and the beer is not supposed to be this way. Borderline drain pour. Tastes like bad wine.

Bottle from Freebridge Wine & Spirits in Phillipsburg, NJ, purchased sometime around May 2013.

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Photo of jbertsch
4.6/5  rDev +15.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Really liked this.
Dark mahagony in color, off white head.
Nose is sour, bittersweet cherries, and a little sugary confection.
Flavor has a great mix of full-on tartness with dry cocoa notes. Essentially cocoa covered sour cherries with notes of raspberry and dray red malts.

The beer is almost like a dessert sour, the interplay between cocoa and sour cherries is really great. Flavor is deep and complex. Went great with a fatty burger.

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Photo of MbpBugeye
3.72/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

This is a new one to me, I've never heard of the brewery before. But with this bottle they are high in the running for worst label ever. This was an extra from finewinemike.

CFR Jan 2014 Lot: 472 stamped on the cap.

Appearance
The head is slow to form and quick to disperse. It doesn't seem to hold very much carbonation. The beer is a really dark cola color, it's deepness is intriguing.

Aroma
This is a very inviting aroma. Tartness is sharp, but not frightening. This stuff is loaded with black cherry goodness. Swirling kicks up plenty of dark, balsamic vinegar and the sweet vanilla notes of oak. There is a hidden shot of basement, moldy funk hidden within all of the rich, fruity aromas.

Taste
The taste doesn't seem as well seated and focused as the aroma. There is a lot of extreme tannic acidity that gets close to being medicinal or chemical. Cherry skins and pits are there providing tartness, sweetness and more tannins at once. The oak comes in very strong shortly after the palate adjusts to the tannins. Lots of fresh, damp, pulpy wood with a little bit of vanilla interwoven.

Mouthfeel
Very low carbonation, but it doesn't really hurt this beer too much. It seems to work with the dryness and mild tartness of this stuff.

Overall
Smells really good, but the flavor is a bit sloppy; it starts to be all-over-the-place. This is still a good surprise since this is certainly a beer I'd pass on if I saw it on shelves; actually I'd probably never notice it on shelves.

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Photo of brianmandell
3.45/5  rDev -13.5%

Pours a dark reddish-brown with quickly reducing head.

Smells of sweet and tart cherries, concord grape juice, chocolate, and oak

Tastes sweet and jammy up front with sour and sweet Welch's grape. The dark malt adds a chocolatey sweetness too. Some acetic acid burns the throat. A strange aftertaste as the malts mix with astringent oak tannins. The sweetness never quite dries out in the finish but the astringency remains. Fairly sour.

Silky medium body but under-carbonated.

Interesting beer. I like the dark ale component and the sweetness can work as a dessert beer. Otherwise, the sweetness, chemical fruitiness, acetic acid, astringent bitterness and lack of carbonation make this one I will avoid in the future.

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Photo of yeahnatenelson
4.04/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Appearance -- Pours a dark brown, bordering on plum, with zero head. A fine ring of suds crowns the glass. Great hue, but otherwise not a showstopper.

Smell -- Okay, things are getting better: Tart cherry, raisin, underripened berries, cocoa, wet oak, vanillin, bright acetic tart, and a dab of funk. Lots of depth, very pleasant.

Taste -- Dark fruit, apple must, cocoa, berry tartness, vinous oak and vanilla. Not quite as acetic as the nose suggested, but slightly funkier - I like it. Finish is plum skin, roast malt, and acetic tartness.

Mouthfeel -- Medium-light body with milder prickly carbonation. I was really worried that this would be flat. Slightly undercarbonated, but otherwise great.

Overall -- This is really quite nice. Great roast malt base compliments the tart components. Well-balanced, no elements outpacing the others. I have a sneaking suspicion that I got an undercarbed bottle - will have to try this again. Definitely worth seeking out.

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Photo of drseamus
4.45/5  rDev +11.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Served on tap at Ebenezers

A: Dark brown body with a good tan head.

S: Slight sour smell with a hint of vinegar

T: Light flavor with sourness and some vinegar. Slight touch of sweetness but a fairly short taste. Pretty good flanders.

M: Light bodied and really easy to drink (if you like flanders)

D: All day long easily. I ran 16 miles before I went to Ebenezers and I wish this was at the finish line ready for some thirst quenching.

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Photo of Catracho5
3.98/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Bottle poured into a snifter. Dark brown color with a tan head, some lacing on the glass, no head retention. Slight oak on the aroma and taste, was expecting a little more for a year, Slight vinegar at the front, some sourness, slight tart cherries, not big flavors but really good, finishes dry and sour, alcohol not very noticeable for 8%, medium mouthfeel. The sourness was a little subdued, was hoping for more, but this is still very good.

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Photo of Jonada
3.77/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.75

11.2 oz bottle served in a tulip glass. No freshness date

Appearance: Pours a deep dark reddish brown color. Pours almost completely still with no head. Body is nearly opaque.

Smell: Red wine, vinegar, black licorice, soy sauce, chocolate, tobacco, blackberry. Its a very interesting aroma

Taste: Sour grapes, prunes, soy sauce, oak, red wine tannins, slight roasted malt and chocolate. Medium vinegar acidity from start to finish.

Mouthfeel: Medium bodied. Slick, oily mouthfeel. It has about as little carbonation as possible without being completely flat.

Overall: One of the more interesting beers I've ever had. The lack of carbonation hurt this one big time in my opinion. Still a very good brew, but if carbonated, could have been excellent.

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Photo of dd43
4.04/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

A wonderful Belgian Flanders sour ale. I wish I had the larger portion of the bottle I shared. Pours a lovely dark burgundy color, minimal head. Cherry notes and a slightly woody/barrel quality in the aroma and flavor. Slightly tart and appropriately lactic finish accentuated by the carbonation. Very nice, and don't be afraid of the yeast sediment in the dregs if you're into that sort of thing.

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Photo of Hopswagger
3.58/5  rDev -10.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

P: Pours a dark brown cola body with dark khaki head that fizzles to a thin cap. Silky micro bubble lacing sloshes on the edge.

S: Cardboard, cedar chips, horseradish, insulation foam, dandelion weeds, faint paint fumes and potpourri. Natural and musty funk aroma not much tartness.

T/M: Dark figs and dark cherry tartness. Naturally dirty flavors play off the wood and acidic fruits. All natural fruit rollup, and bitter sweet chocolate lurks in the distance. Good prickly semi syrupy body and finishes dry with lingering apple cider vinegar.

O: Overall a well crafted brew. The natural mustiness was welcoming but I think it may have overpowered the base concoction. The acidity and definitely the tartness was muted and the flavors were not masterfully blended. Good but not in the top five.

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Photo of constantine_272
4.19/5  rDev +5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.5

L: Dark brown with light brown foam. Speaking of foam, there was very very little. Seemed to be low on carbonation. Oh, and they layer of sediment at the bottom of the bottle was unreal!

S: bright red fruit and tart cranberry. Dark aging mahogany and rich black soil. Red wine vinegar. Smells a bit mellow.

T: Mellow woodiness of cedar and rain soaked oak starts off. That is short lived as the sweet and sour candy fires forward. Sourness is of raspberry, strawberry, cherry and cranberry. Long sour red wine flavor lingers with red wine vinegar that's both off putting yet intriguing. Despite the sour a low undertone of earth and rich leather persists. And finally a dry saltiness lingers ever so slightly of hazelnut.

F: Puckering tingly and a medium dryness.

O: Did not like on the first sip or two. I think that was just shock as I now think it was quite delicious. This thing needed to warm up a few degrees from fridge temps like most Belgians. This beer has just a crazy amount of flavor, and not just a one trick pony of just sour as it is nicely rounded by the earthy notes.

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Photo of JeffreyJDavis
3.98/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 4

This is Zymatore Edtion 2012 Batch 3, aged on Ransom Spirits Whisky, Pinot Noir and Late Harvest Zinfandel Barrels. Alvino sour aged on red grapes blended with Mano Negra (Belgian Stout). Blended and barrel aged. Barrel Numbers 12, 147, 149 and 150, Filled 3/5/12, emptied 10/7/13. Poured from a 750 ml bomber into a Founders Snifter at around 50F.

A: Basically a still beer, no carb other than the slightest cap which formed from nucleation after the pour. I Poured it aggressively. Dark Dark Dark red, basically black. Not turbid, pretty clear.

N: Tart red cherries, vinous grapes, a bit of lacto. I dont get any Belgian Owl Whisky barrel, but maybe a bit of Pinot Noir Oak. I don't get much funk or must, but there's a certain organic earthiness to the fragrance. Pleasant.

T: Big tart cherries are the dominant notes. It hits you with aggressive lambic lacto tartness, which you really get on the sides of your tongue, but transitions to the stout like oaky, very slightly smoky maltiness on the finish. Very interesting hybrid flavor profile. It's totally well integrated but you can pick out the two blended components on the front and back of eack sip.

MF: More wine-like than ale-like due to the almost total lack of carbonation. You have the tartness, which commands your palate and then puckers it a bit, without any real effervescence to cleanse. Medium bodied, with nice coating, but I could go with slightly more carbonation.

O: This is definitely a quality beer, and quite unique in approach. I can imagine that there is a fair amount of batch to batch variation based on the aging and blending methodology. If you like Flemish Reds, Oud Bruins and have an open mind, I think you will appreciate this beer. I'm a bit underwhelmed by the complex barrel aging protocol, which I imagined would be more apparent; I guess it's overshadowed by the tartness. I would definitely buy it again, and I would love to see how this ages.

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Photo of nickhiller
4.2/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: dark cherry to coffee brown, thin but bubbly head, big chunks of yeast floaters.

S: sweet and sour, tangy even, raisins.

T: musty cider, crab apples and sour grapes, blue cheese, oak shines through as a warming red wine, finish is bitter roasted coffee.

M: light and crisp, warm bitter finish.

O: reminds me a lot of Orval, which I love, light bodied but complex and surprisingly strong for an 8%er

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Cuvee Freddy from Picobrouwerij Alvinne
89 out of 100 based on 77 ratings.
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