Doppel Dinkel Bock
Deschutes Brewery

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Style:
German Weizenbock
ABV:
10.5%
Score:
87
Avg:
3.88 | pDev: 12.11%
Reviews:
48
Ratings:
223
From:
Deschutes Brewery
 
Oregon, United States
Avail:
Retired (no longer brewed)
Wants
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SCORE
87
Very Good
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Reviews: 48 | Ratings: 223
Photo of tigg924
3.87/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Pours clear, reddish-brown in color with 1/4 inch head. Taste is prune, banana, dark pumpernickel bread, toasted malt, and alcohol heat. Sweet, malty, medium-heavy bodied, and slick. I prefer other weizenbocks, but this one is tasty and worth a try.

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Photo of NickSMpls
3.84/5  rDev -1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

The manager at our favorite beer store (Blue Max in Burnsville, MN) said, "Have this as your last beer, not your first." That's good advice. The wife says it's a summer version of an imperial stout. A dark amber pour with a light persistent head. Aromas of molasses and spice come out and the taste is rich and complex with plenty of malt and definite hit on the ABV. A slight sweetness stays with you for a long time. Nothing we'd had from Deschutes comes close. Probably one of those that are like-or-not-like.

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Photo of tprinzing
4.06/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

22oz. Bomber
Best By: 06/17/15

Didn't notice the best buy date until after I purchased it on 9/1/2015.

L: Nice color. Not much of a head.
T: Very sweet, with raison, prune, banana, and caramel flavors and very malty.

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Photo of Wasatch
4.43/5  rDev +14.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

22oz. Bomber
Best By: 06/17/15

This brew should not be retired.

Poured into a chalice a very nice slightly cloudy golden brown color, very nice carbonation, with a nice one-finger creamy light tan head, leaves some sticky lacing. The nose is malty, very slight yeast note, some bananna notes, slightly spicy, some clove. The taste is very nice, malty, yeasty, with some nice fruit and spice notes. Medium body, ABV is hidden very well. Overall a very tasty brew, would buy again, recommended. This one is not as hot or thick as other's in the style.

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Photo of Goblinmunkey7
3.04/5  rDev -21.6%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3

Appearance: Dark red-tinged cola brown. Head is off-white and creamy. Drops to a small hint of a cap with a small collar. Minimal lacing. Moderate carbonation on the pour. Relatively clear outside of the sediment.

Smell: Big sweet malts. Brown bread. Deeply cooked and caramelized malts. A touch of jelly. Toffee and brittle. Super sugary. Solidly roasted base a touch of toasted bread crust. Fresh brown bread covered in a general dark fruit jam. Soft earthy hop with some slight grassy elements. Bananas, a soft peppery spice, and more caramel. Seriously caramelized sugars. A hint of something almost smoky buried in the back.

Taste: The sweetness from the nose carries over in spades to the taste. Slightly roasted. Toasted fresh brown bread. Dark fruit. Raisin and fig. Crazy sweet but somehow not completely over the top. Hops are mild at best. Some touches of earth and grass. Some slight cherry skin. Malt jelly spread on fresh brown bread. Deeply caramelized sugars. Borders on brittle. Ripe banana and some mild yeasty spice running through the back. Even hints at bubblegum as it warms. A touch of milk chocolate. Malt syrup.

Mouthfeel: Medium slightly creamy body with a moderate carbonation. Super smooth with a touch of lingering carbonation.

Overall: Hey guys, drinking toast is where it's at.

This is crazy sweet, but not cloying or over syrupy. So much bread.

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Photo of angrybabboon
3.58/5  rDev -7.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Cheers to Goblinmunkey7 for sharing this

Consumed 8/28/15

A: Medium brown to purple, with some deep, deep amber and garnet highlights - Pours with a small, off-white head, fades to virtually nothing, but maintains a small collar, leaves a few streaks of lacing

S: Sweet, sweet malts and bread - the emphasis, not surprisingly, is malts - rich, rich malts, with brown bread, bread crust, molasses, caramel, caramelized malts - sweet multigrain bread - light herbal bitterness - definitely sweet, with a touch of booze

T: Liquid bread - cooked sugar, caramel, caramelized malts, molasses, toffee, sugar - cooked grains, wheat, multigrain bread - syrup, like maple syrup (minus the maple) - some earthy bitterness to balance the massive sweetness - more grains - some fruity esters and dark fruit - finishes with some spice and more sweetness

M: On the heavy side of medium, low carbonation, smooth, finishes sweet with a touch of booze

O: I would score this higher if it were named "Dingus Bock"

I'm not sure if I can totally comprehend the intention of this beer. I thought it would be a dopplebock, but I'm not getting the intense, concentrated bread and near-soy sauce flavors typical in the style. This is more of an imperial weizenbock. In other words, this is quite literally liquid bread sprinkled with caramel.

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Photo of superspak
4/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22 ounce bottle into tulip glass, best before 6/17/2015. Pours slightly hazy deep ruby red/copper color with a 1-2 finger dense light khaki head with good retention, that reduces to a thin cap that lingers. Light spotty lacing clings on the glass, with a fair amount of streaming carbonation. Aromas of big raisin, plum, apple, lemon, orange, banana, clove, bubblegum, caramel, brown sugar, brown bread, toast, light herbal, light nuttiness, and yeast/toasted earthiness. Damn nice aromas with good balance and complexity of dark/bready malt and fruity/spicy yeast notes; with good strength. Taste of big raisin, plum, apple, lemon, orange, banana, clove, bubblegum, caramel, brown sugar, brown bread, toast, light herbal, light nuttiness, and yeast/toasted earthiness. Fair amount of earthy yeast spiciness on the finish; with lingering notes of raisin, plum, apple, lemon, orange, banana, clove, bubblegum, caramel, brown sugar, brown bread, toast, light nuttiness, and yeast/toasted earthiness on the finish for a good bit. Damn nice complexity and robustness of dark/bready malt and fruity/spicy yeast flavors; with an awesome malt/yeast balance and zero cloying sweetness after the finish. Light-medium carbonation and medium-full bodied; with a very smooth and fairly creamy/bready mouthfeel that is nice. Alcohol is very well hidden with only a slight warming lingering after the finish. Overall this is a damn nice weizen bock style. All around great complexity, robustness, and balance of dark/bready malt and fruity/spicy yeast flavors; and very smooth to sip on for the big ABV. A very enjoyable offering.

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Photo of ONUMello
3.83/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

22oz bottle best by 6/17/15 poured into a bock glass
A: Slightly hazy reddish brown with a thin head
S: Sweet, cherry, dates, caramel, butterscotch
T: Matches the nose note for note. Definitely on the sweet side.
M: Medium+ bodied, sweet almost bordering on cloying
O: This fits the style well and is tasty overall but needs to tone down the sweetness a hair for better balance

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Photo of coltonbrimhall
3.84/5  rDev -1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

- normal wheat beer head
-wheat and a soury citrus smell with light alcohol
-citrus wheat bock taste, good but prefer a darker taste
-thick to light
-overall a good beer not my favorite german style but a good beer none the less

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Photo of snaotheus
3.48/5  rDev -10.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

2015-02-27
22oz bottle split between a pair of chalices. According to the label, Best By: 06/17/15. ABV 10.7%.

Pours cloudy dark amber with very little head and lots of fine carbonation. Smell is a little dates, yeast and alcohol, that characteristic semi-caramelly aroma of doppelbocks.

Taste is alcohol, dark fruity sweetness, slightly bitter-sour finish. Oaky, oddly.

Mouthfeel is mild but a little still. Overall, not bad at all, but not really my style. Which is not a surprise.

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Photo of hreb
3.04/5  rDev -21.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

22oz bottle served in a curved glass. Beer pours thick and syrupy, with a brown amber color, and little head. Looks pretty turbid, too. Aroma suggests clove and bubblegum, and with all the ethanol (this bottle is labeled 10.7% ABV) I get a bit of whiskey / Jack Daniels, too. Flavor is sweet, a little bit grainy, and strong. Doesn't taste much like beer, to me, which is too bad. This just feels like a recipe for a hangover. The spice character is the only thing this beer has going for it in the mouth, and it's not enough to keep me interested. It's just a sugary, boozy, mess.

Doppelbock is a tricky style to get right, Weizenbock perhaps even more so. And Aventinus is one of my all time favorite beers. So I am even more let down by this offering from Deschutes than I might have otherwise been.

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Photo of elNopalero
3.8/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

This pours a light tan with manila foam. There’s a light clove and banana character on the aroma, with a dominant banana bubble gum taste once sipped. Malty sweet and strong!

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Photo of draheim
3.73/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

22oz (best by 6/17/2015) into a tulip. Pours a hazy amber w/ a thin off-white head.

Aroma is fruity, malt, sweet, bready. A touch floral. Kind of like a sweet Marzen.

Taste follows nose. Strongly sweet, fruity, bready. Just shy of syrupy. Some bittering hops to balance things out, barely.

Mouthfeel is thick and chewy. Tons of caramel and crystal malt here. Carbonation isn't sufficient to cut the heavy malt.

Overall a big strong malt bomb of a beer. Enjoyable enough, but probably not something I would seek out again.

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Photo of TheDoctor
3.9/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Service: Bottle
Best by: June-15-2015


A:
Pours a hazy ruby brown with two fingers of thick, active beige head that settles to a healthy ring and patchy film. OK retention; some speckled lacing. (3.75)

S:
Sweet, yeasty. Layers of thick malty flavors, esters, caramel, wood, candied orange, hay, cloves. (3.75)

T:
German-tasting liquid banana bread. Spicy grains, banana, bubblegum, doughy sweetness, caramelized sugars, earthy hop backbone (barely). (4)

M:
Rich, hearty, creamy, tiny bubbles, medium bodied with some detectable alcohol and a lingering coating sweet flavor. (3.75)

O:
Very good take on a bock.
This is a rich, filling, drinkable, subtle beer that is good, but starts to get a little cloying after a while with a lot of sticky over-ripe banana flavor.
Pours alright with a nice yeasty German nose, mellow banana and doughy sweetness. Some spicy notes from the spelt (I assume) with a little bit of alcohol coming through, but overall quite mellow (especially for having no wheat).
Generally pleasant and smooth, could be tweaked a bit in some respects, but for a one-off with a nifty gimmick, it could be far worse.
Would have again; worth a shot, especially if you like German beers to begin with. (4)

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Photo of irongator
3.79/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

strange initial chemical sweetness that turned me off. Nice and boozy though and I got over the sweetness and took one for the team and finished the bomber!

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Photo of BeerWithMike
4.31/5  rDev +11.1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Just finished sampling this on 1/1/15. Comes in a 22 ounce bottle and was in the discount bin for $4 yesterday over at the Hy-Vee in Council Bluffs, Iowa. Bottle chilled down to 36 degrees F in my beer cooler and poured in to a 1 L handled-glass stein.

Pours a hazy burnt-orange in color with a good 1+-finger beige head that finally settles down a good half way through the drink to around 2mm or so. Lots of sticky lacing is seen when sipped. A lot going on with the aroma and is of sweet caramel malts, banana. clove, bumble gum and spices. Pretty much the same for the taste with the malts right up front followed by the spices followed by some bubble gun flavor with yeast and more malts. Sweet finish as would be excepted for this type of brew. Medium+-bodies with perfect carbonation. This is a good 'sipper' type of brew because of the high alcohol content for sure, BUT you don't taste it!. Only one is needed. LOL! Overall a tasty brew. :D

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Photo of bobhits
2.26/5  rDev -41.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.25 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 2

Appearance: Hazy dark cloudy amber. While cloudy it is very consistent and uniform in appearance. Minimal head with a bit of lacing.

Smell: Bubble gum, cane sugar, light fruit notes, caramel malts, perhaps some cherry notes as well. The beer is mostly malt dominated with year adding in the light fruit aromas. Hops are well into the back perhaps adding a few citrus notes.

Taste: More malt, malt, and then some spice. Caramel malt opens up to some bubble gum yeast and follows with rye spices and bitterness.

Feel: Boozy, very very boozy. A bit of a syrup like note, not well carbonated but very heavy.

Overall: 10.7 abv does not suit this beer at all. The flavors are too over the top sweet likely a result of forcing the higher alcohol content. This is a strong pass for all but the biggest fans of the style.

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Photo of vette2006c5r
3.74/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Doppel Dinkel pours a hazy brown color, with a small lacing head. There is a big malty, beady aroma, with hints of ester and alcohol. The taste has a beady flavor, ester flavors, and big alcohol flavors. Strong flavors, body seems a little flat. Overall its big and flavorful, but I think the alcohol may be too powerful.

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Photo of UrbanCaveman
3.02/5  rDev -22.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

22 oz bottle, poured into a tulip glass as room temperature.

A: Pours a deep orange-copper, with some mild cloudiness, and forms a three-finger pale orange head that collapses rather quickly into a cap and ring.

S: Caramel and toffee malt notes dominate the opening of the aroma, and are quickly joined by what seems like pine sap. Some fruit notes also appear, like overripe pear and raisin, and perhaps a vaguely banana-bready tinge.

T: That's an interesting approach to a weizenbock. The piney scent from the aroma carries forward into the beer, giving the whole flavor profile a wallop that is tough for me to get past, and highlighting the alcohol heat that's along. However, beneath that, there's a parade of fruit esters - cherries, overripe pear, raisins, and tart apple. Further beneath that lurks the shades of banana bread with toffee replacing the nuts, alongside clove and coriander spices. The finish is pure alcohol burn, perhaps with some of that pine-ness along.

M: Creamy, full, and sticky, with high carbonation that carries a sharp tang with it, and plenty of alcohol heat - this does not hide its ABV at all.

O: I'm torn here. While the flavor profile offers significant complexity, it also heavily features a two-note barrage of pine and alcohol, to me. While the mouthfeel is exactly what one wants out of a weizenbock in consistency, the carbonation and heat are a bit excessive. I imagine for those who are less hop-sensitive than I am, this is an outright good beer. I am left wondering if I would repeat it given the opportunity.

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Photo of are_doubleyou
3.59/5  rDev -7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

L: A very dark orange with light carbonation. A vigorous pour provides a thin head that quickly turns into a thin lace.

S: The aroma is very strong. Very heavy notes of cloves, banana and bubblegum. There is some alcohol smell behind them, but it is faint and hard to discern past the more forward ester smell.

T: The beer hits the palate very bright and flavor forward. Very much like a souped up hefeweizen with strong notes of cloves and bubblegum with some banana and alcohol taste behind it. The bubblegum flavor is strong on the finish and lingers on the palate with some booziness. A first sip I was delighted, but about halfway through the glass it has gotten rather cloying.

F: Very bright and crisp, but also thick and surprisingly heavy on the palate.

O: There are beers that need to grow on me throughout the glass and this is the opposite of that. I really enjoyed the first third of the glass. It was bright and forward, unique with a lot to taste and work through. But after about half a glass the bubblegum finish is just too much for me. The alcohol taste is also present, but restrained enough to avoid an issue in a beer over 10%. I think this beer is a very solid weizenbock for some tastes, but is really too sweet and cloying for me to enjoy more than a half pint.

This beer was poured from a 22oz bottle into a Blind Pig mug and enjoyed at apx 50F.

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Photo of RyanK252
4.03/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Bottle poured into a nonic pint glass

A: Pours rich copper amber with a creamy off white head that fades.

S: Big banana and clove up front with some caramel malt sweetness.

T: Sweet fruity banana, a touch of apple, with maybe even some faint raspberry, some bubble gum, a bit of clove spice, and some caramel malt sweetness. Hides it's % very well.

M: Fuller body, fairly creamy, low to medium carbonation.

O: Happy to finally get my hands on this one. More German style dark wheat beer rather than doppel bock than I was expecting, but quite tasty (and a bit of an ass kicker).

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Photo of kojevergas
2.59/5  rDev -33.2%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 2.5

The name suggests it's a doppel bock, but the use of dinkel/spelt malt suggests it a weizenbock. A video on Deschutes' website identifies this as a weizenbock, so I'm reviewing as such.

BOTTLE: Best by 06/17/15. 10.7% ABV. 1 pint 6 fl oz brown glass, with a generic green label and a branded maroon pry-off pressure cap.

Served cold into a pilsner glass and allowed to warm over the course of consumption. Side-poured with standard vigor as no carbonation issues are anticipated. Expectations are high; I loved the first beer in the conflux series.

No bubble show forms as it's poured.

HEAD: Two fingers wide. Pale khaki colour. Nice plump supple complexion and an even, smooth consistency, with good creaminess and thickness. Soft-looking. Full and thick. Retention is excellent for a 10.70% beer - around 6-8 minutes. Leaves no lacing as it recedes.

BODY: Dark deep auburn-brown. Surprisingly, it's translucent and transparent. No yeast particulate or hop sediment is visible. I expected a darker body with more opacity and a more robust appearance. This isn't a great body for a doppelbock or weizenbock.

Appears well-carbonated. It's a decent appearance overall.

AROMA: Bubblebum dominates, with some subsidiary yeast banana. Definitely a wheat beer, but it does have some brown bread malts, caramel, and light syrup. I can see where this protein heavy spelt malt would be more suited to bread baking than beer making. I don't find the clove or citrus promised on the label.

No alcohol, overt hop notes, or off-notes are detectable.

Bubblegum isn't a great note to dominate, especially in a weizenbock. But the malts are lovely and I'm curious to try it. A pleasant overall aroma of average strength.

TASTE: Ample bubblegum is present alongside some phenols, light caramel, brown bread malts, and leavening wheat. Unfortunately, the bubblegum overpowers the more traditional bready notes - yeast triumphing over malts. Odd in a weizenbock. And isn't the whole idea behind this brew to showcase the bready dinkel malt? Why overshadow it with a cheap yeasty characteristic? Some of the other caramel-like malts feel syrupy and out of place. It's surprisingly sweet for a weizenbock, and I find myself waiting for some spicy clove to help balance it out, but it never comes. The citrus mentioned on the label never appears, but I think that a good thing. I do get a hint of plum, which feels out of place here - more Belgian than German. Caramel candied apples come to mind as I drink; I usually hate apple in beer.

Imbalanced in the sense that the bubblegum overpowers the rest of the flavour profile. Average depth, duration, and intensity of flavour. It's not a real complex or subtle brew. Lacks the delicacy and intricacy of superior beers in the style.

I'm not sure I like this one. The bubblegum is just too distracting, and I wish it were more malt-forward.

TEXTURE: Syrupy, thick, smooth, and wet. Overcarbonated. Luckily, it avoids the astringency usually associated with dinkelbiere. It's a full-bodied heavy feel for a weizenbock, and the syrupy feel doesn't work for it. It's nicely soft, though.

An okay companion to the taste. Doesn't feel custom-tailored to it. This mouthfeel doesn't elevate the beer.

OVERALL: I always applaud experimentation and the resurrection of lost or obscure beer styles, but this brew has a strange obsession with bubblegum, to the detriment of not only its balance, but its purported focus as well. Why brew with obscure spelt malt and then cover it up with phenolic yeasty bubblegum notes?

To its credit, though, it's quite drinkable for 10.70%, and it's definitely a meal in a glass. But the bubblegum is fatiguing, and I quickly tire of it. I wouldn't buy this again and it doesn't even come close to the quality of Conflux #1. I wouldn't recommend it to friends or trade partners.

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Photo of ElCommodoro
4.75/5  rDev +22.4%

This has a very yeasty flavor typical of weizenbocks, but with a depth of dark malt flavor only a doppelbock could provide. This is a near-perfect rendering of a dark, big beer in my opinion, with a focus on the sweet yeastiness that takes away from the alcohol hotness, but not too much. Great brew, for sure. This beats any big stout I've tried, I'm pretty sure.

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Photo of hopsputin
3.9/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.75

a: its a rich amber color with some murky ruby red and light purple notes. head only consists of a thin film

s: fig, prunes, over-ripe banana, grapes, and sticky toffee. a small amount of alcohol mixed in as well

t: the taste follows the aroma almost exactly. its figs, prunes, raisins, banana, toffee, some brown sugar, and finally cut by some alcohol to balance the sweetness - it is a quite sweet beer. for a beer with so many 'heavy' flavors, its surprisingly easy to drink. you do pick up some alcohol, but only towards the end

m: its on the lighter side of medium. carbonation is high-medium, which is nice because it helps the dark fruits feel a little juicier

o: its a good beer. the flavor profile is ordered in a nice way, and its easy to drink. have to watch out on this one, with the high abc

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Photo of BrewChatKen
3.25/5  rDev -16.2%

Just not my style I guess, those Belgian yeast flavors can be a real turnoff for me in some beers. The nose was big time banana and clove, I thought the yeast did play well with the malts producing an aroma reminiscent of banana bread, also raisins and cherries, a little bubblegum. It poured ruby brown with a white head and it was full bodied with a creamy mouthfeel. On the palate banana and clove were still the most prevalent, bubblegum, that banana bread thing I mentioned, cherry and some spices, but everything aside from those first two was pretty subtle. In the end I was conflicted with this beer because of personal preference. It's well made beer, good overall actually, it's just not for me.

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Doppel Dinkel Bock from Deschutes Brewery
Beer rating: 87 out of 100 with 223 ratings