The Dissident
Deschutes Brewery

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Style:
Flanders Oud Bruin
Ranked #4
ABV:
10.9%
Score:
94
Ranked #1,434
Avg:
4.22 | pDev: 9.95%
Reviews:
550
Ratings:
1,497
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Oregon, United States
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The DissidentThe Dissident
Notes: Flanders style sour brown brewed with dark candi sugar and Oregon Montmorency cherries, aged in Pinot Noir barrels.

30 IBU

First release (9.0% ABV) - August 2008
Second release (10.5% ABV) - November 2010 (~118bbl)
Third release (11.4% ABV) - October 2012
Fourth release (10.7% ABV) - December 2014
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4.5/5  rDev +6.6%

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Photo of biboergosum
4.15/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.5

22oz, red wax sealed bottle, 2014 Reserve edition, coming in at 10.7% ABV. Not going to bother with the 'Best After' suggestion on this one.

This beer pours a slightly hazy, medium bright orange-brick amber hue, with one finger of soapy and bubbly ecru head, which leaves a wash of melting iceberg lace around the glass as things gently subside.

It smells of bready, crackery caramel malt, sour cherries, vinous red grape juice, ethereal yeasty white cheese, a tame musty funk, lemon vinegar, and a soft leafy, earthy hoppiness. The taste is big bready, and mildly doughy caramel malt, underripe bing cherries, mushy strawberries, a touch of astringent wood, real vanilla, more mixed and moderately soused black orchard fruit, a rather subtle earthy and musty, cheesy funkiness, and pretty innocuous leafy, floral, and faintly perfumed hops.

The carbonation is pretty low-key, just a plainly supportive frothiness abounding, the body a decent medium weight, and more or less smooth, these particular acids not in the mood to meddle, apparently. It finishes well off-dry, the sturdy base malt buoyed by the complex sweet and sour fresh and barrel-borne fruitiness.

A rather pleasant and engaging wood-treated version of the style - it's not going to challenge Rodenbach or the Duchesse, but instead sit amicably right next to them in the limited pantheon of sour Flemish ales available around here. Fruity, certainly, and yet balanced, especially when it comes to addressing that elephant kicking back in the middle of the room (no, I'm not seeing things) - yeah, the 21+ proof booze is really hard to come by, it would seem.

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Photo of BuckeyeNation
4.47/5  rDev +5.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

2008 Reserve. Scintillating scarlet with topaz colored accents when backlit with sunshine. The firmly creamy golden beige crown was three fingers to start, looks wonderful, and is in the process of laying down a more than respectable array of sudsy lace.

The nose smells exactly like a well-crafted Flanders oud bruin brewed with Brettanomyces should smell. The wild yeast doesn't overpower the base beer and the Washington State cherries manage to have their say as well. This could be yet another world-class ale from Deschutes.

The Dissident was worth the wait. I'm not sure how it tasted fresh, but it's fandamntastic after sleeping in the cellar for the past 24 months. It will probably last at least that long from this point forward, if not longer. Not this bomber, though. This bomber is about to meet its fate in glorious fashion.

The acidity is not off the charts, which is always a boon to drinkability. There are some malt sugars running interference that add an underlying sweetness that one does not often experience in beer of this style. Tangy-tart-sour is still in the lead, as it should be.

This special release tastes more red than bruin (brown). That's probably because of the cherries and the fact that is was aged in Pinot Noir and Cabernet barrels. That intense vinousness and fruitiness is what puts it over the top for me. It's incredibly satisfying when great beer on paper turns into great beer in the glass. Brown bread and cherry preserves and red wine and farmhouse funk... oh my!

Warming allows what was meshing in the first few ounces to mesh even more seamlessly during the rest of the bottle. This offering is so complex that it's difficult to focus on just one aspect in any given mouthful. Best to just let it bathe the taste buds and revel in the result.

The mouthfeel isn't even close to letting down the rest of the beer. It's at least medium-full for the style and is much more lush and creamy than most. By the way, alcohol is buried without a trace.

Even though I had the foresight to buy several bottles of The Dissident back in '08, I was stupid enough to trade away all but this bottle. If I'm lucky enough to have access to the second release (scheduled for next month), that mistake will not be repeated. Bottom line: one of the best of 2010.

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Photo of VncentLIFE
4.68/5  rDev +10.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

At first, I wasnt really impressed. It started flat and bland, but as is true with really good American sours, it opened up. What was once this bland malt forward slightly sweet beer opened up into a tart cherry beauty. The sweet malt flavors were balanced out by a hint of lactobacillus acidity and tart cherries. Also, a kiss of the wine barrel comes in to add a touch of depth.

That nose of oak, caramel, and acidity really doesnt lead you on. That tartness acts as a balancing act, making the sweet malt seem required.

Its not the low pH beer you get from many brewers, its clearly meant for subtlety and elegance. The tart cherry pie notes and sweet malt make you think cherry pie in the best way possible. Theres no strong bourbon or other barrel flavors, its just a well structured wine barrel beer.

Go Deschutes.

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Photo of BEERchitect
4.24/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

As the traditional Flemish brown ale trends toasty, malty, tart and with nuance of sour fruit- its usual profile is a sour red with a blend of brown. Well... Deschutes version is all this but with a Frankenstein turn. Its monstrous tone is big, bold and woven of Europe's misfit pieces and parts.

The Dissident carries a sour tone across a copper-gold body with a depth of bronze through the center. Above its frothy ecru head, a rolling scent of sour cherries couple with toast, caramel and nuttiness while underneath, the flavors of sorghum, pecan and medium-char toast begin to frame the initial taste.

Its maltiness is short lived as the sourness steps in and slices, dices and julian's the malts and sequesters them to a mere counterpart to the taste of green cherry, green apple, cider vinegar, fig, sherry and date. As the taste develops, a deep and acidic taste goes from cider to rose wine, crabapple and sour white grape late. Final impressions are sweet and sour as the yin-and-yang of oude bruin stays tried and true.

Finishing medium bodied for a sour ale, yet trending malty-dry, the flemish beer trails with predominant souring power overshadowing the sweetness, but barely. Its final character is a spicy sourness with the alcohol adding acetone and solvent character that will surely improve with age. An medium-length aftertaste is one of sour fruit, peanut skin and brandy warmth.

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Photo of Lingenbrau
4.56/5  rDev +8.1%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

2016 offering.

This beer is absolutely beautiful. It's clear deep amber to slightly reddish hued color is hypnotizing. It has a small white head that compliments it perfectly by disappearing into its depths, keeping you focused on it's brilliant appearance.

The smell bursts upon the pop and fizz of the cap, intoxicating the surroundings with intense sour vinegar and sweet dark cherries.

The flavor was not at all what I was expecting. A slight hint of vinegar is quickly overcome with dark cherry, molasses, and oak.

The feel is so unique. A tad under cough syrup with a touch of prickly spice, smooth, mild carbonation, sweet and tart, but none of those attributes are overwhelming.

Overall, few beers are worth such a long wait, as this beer has eluded me since its first release. An absolutely phenomenal beer that I would gladly pay the nominal fee again and again for such a treat. I think I'm in love. Cheers!

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Photo of StonedTrippin
4.17/5  rDev -1.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

just one of those classics for me. it looks a little thin, light brown color with a red hue to it. good carbonation is obvious, as a fizzy white head rises up. the nose is intense. lots of red wine vibes, pinot for sure. also lots of sour in the aroma. brett and lacto at least, but this isnt acidic. there is some sweetness in the flavor from the malt, and that red fruit tone again. maybe something tart in fruit, like cranberries or something. more red wine tannins in the finish, and a puckery sour. the alcohol is well hidden, a superbly drinkable bottle. medium body in the end, and bold carbonation just short of pop like. its expensive and rare, but it is just a beer that you need to seek out. its hard to describe because it stands alone. a sour yes, but its so much more than that. one of the more complex bottles of beer around.

edit: the bottle we had this week was totally different from what i remember, its almost still on the pour, excessively sweet and boozy, and without any of the sourness that was so interesting in here the first time around. has the recipe changed? did i have an infected bottle the first time? whats the story? this kind of batch variance seems to extreme for a brewery of this quality... not even close to as good this second time around...

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Photo of morimech
4.4/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

2012 vintage. Nice cherry and acidic fruit notes. Deep and complex. Glad I waited a couple of years.

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Photo of boisehack
4.64/5  rDev +10%
look: 5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

The only reason I don't rate the beer higher is because I am not that familiar with the style, but I like this beer a lot. The first time I drank it, it was just a sample, at the Bitter Creek Ale House in Boise, and I could barely finish it. But weeks later, for some reason, I wanted more. That was years ago. This is round 2.

Bought from an end cap at the Boise Consumer Coop, poured into a simple pint glass. A product of 2017.

The beer is not brown, like a Newcastle's, but it is more like tawny. You must pour vigorously to get a head on it, and then it is about one-half an inch. That collapses quickly, leaving a persistent skim of tiny bubbles.

The smell reminds me of rotten apples, like when you step in them at the orchard, and you think you have stepped in dog poop, but realize you haven't, because of the sweetness and fruitiness. Awesome characteristics for a beer! It takes me back to when I would stay with my father in the summers in Indiana, and my job was to mow the fields on a riding lawnmower, and there were apple trees in one part, and I would have to cruise through there, and rotting apples would be ejected from the mower, and all these bees would get upset because they were feeding on the fetid pulp and I was intruding on all their fun. Funny how smells can take you back to your childhood.

The taste: It has warmed a bit now, maximum flavor, it's not really vinegary, but certainly tart, and a smokey dried fruit comes in, like prunes, and almost a burnt rubber, not quite though, because of the fruitiness. This teeters on the edge of being bad, but that is what is so cool about it. It is definitely an acquired taste. There are definitely overtones of tannins, and my mouth puckers anew with each small sip, I want it to last. A bit of dried banana? I do not taste the alcohol.

The feel is almost syrupy, sticky, which is wonderful, it keeps the taste going long after the swallow. I do feel the alcohol in my tummy, though.

Two fingers left, there is the faintest of lacing, and very tiny bubbles around the edge, and a diaphanous nebula of something in the middle. And it smells now a bit of Grampa's medicine chest from the 50s (More nostalgia! Odors are incredible that way). There are cherries in this? They have been boiled down to something intense, this ain't no cherry lambic!

I have been playing around with this beer for more than an hour now, and it has to end sometime. I actually feel that I am a different person for having drunk this beer. It is not just a beer. it is a shining example of what folks can do with yeast and bacteria and malt and water. I am assuming hops too. This brew is like a god, and I am a mere mortal, sampling a godly nectar.

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Photo of Floydster
4.45/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

22 ounce double red waxed dipped bottle picked up at City Beer by Murchmac up in San Francisco, thanks for sending this one my way, think the original price on this was around ten dollars, poured into my St. Feuillien snifter tonight

A-Dark red with some brown tones, very light on the top when held up to the lamp, thin 3/4 inch beige creamy head that lasts a good ten minutes, great retention, lacing most of the time
S-Lots of cherries, wild yeast, sour aromas, blackberries, brown sugar, toffee, underlying nuttiness, faint vinegar, roasted malts, funk, and sweetness
T-More sour at first with a slight vinegary taste mixed with some tart, taste was popping with a limited finish, once it warmed there was some sweetness mixed in and the brown ale characteristics came out of this Flanders, roasted nutty maltiness in the middle, finish was still pretty sour but definitely had more of a sweet cherry taste, aftertaste stuck around a lot longer too, almost think tasted better at room temperature rather than at first after spending thirty minutes in the fridge, nice balance between the malt and wild yeast, provided an enjoyable sweet and sour experience
M-Tart, sugary, sweet, and slightly dry mouthfeel, when first served and it was cool there was a large amount of carbonation, still some around later as it warmed but not nearly as much, medium bodied, taste lingered nicely
D-Drank the whole bomber and could have had more, alcohol was hidden beautifully, went down easy, not overly tart, sweet, or hot, smooth and easy to drink, drank over a two hour span while watching the game

I liked this better than Black Butte XX but not as much as Abyss, even though they are totally different styles, those are the other two in Deschutes reserve series as of now for those of you who do not know, first experience with this new brew, this a damn good Flanders and glad to see this brewery branching out, wish more of this came down into our area, do not know how this will age but it should hold up for a year or two, would like to drink again, recommended

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Photo of pmccallum86
4.5/5  rDev +6.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours an opaque golden red color with a light bubbly off white head.

Smell is of tart cherries and vinegar.

Taste is great, smooth tartness comes through with a nice creamy finish. Sour, but not overly sour, quite an enjoyable beer.

Mouthfeel is smooth and creamy, pretty damn good.

Very drinkable, especially considering the ABV.

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Photo of loganburgh
4.21/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of josephwa
4.5/5  rDev +6.6%

Photo of SurlyUtopia
4.46/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Photo of SargeC
4.42/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Appearance: Hazy, tea-brown colored brew with a frothy golden head. The head is made up of tight bubbles. Light carbonation flows freely.

Smell: Distinct vinegar presence, hints of cherries and oak. Funky yeast aroma.

Taste: Delicious brew that is not as acidic as it smells. Mild flavor of oak. A bit dirty and earthy throughout, with a good funky aftertaste that lingers.

Mouthfeel: Med body. Vibrant carbonation adds fullness. Semi-dry.

Drinkablity: Very drinkable brew that creeps up with its potency. Fits the style well, but has something indescribable that makes it unique. I enjoyed the bitter finish.

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Photo of mdillon86
4.25/5  rDev +0.7%

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5/5  rDev +18.5%

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3.5/5  rDev -17.1%

Photo of Duffman79
4.39/5  rDev +4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Photo of pwoods
4.17/5  rDev -1.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to RoryGilmore for this bottle.Shared at RoyMunson's house along with FtownThrowDown. Thanks for having me over :)

22oz. brown bomber, maroon waxed, poured into a snifter.

A: Pours a light maroon with an average, lightly tinted head. Some retention and lacing.

S: Plenty of dark juicy fruits. A big of green apple and citrus tartness. The brett doesn't pack a huge punch in the nose. Decent sweet maltiness.

T/M: More of the fruitiness from the nose. Tartness is a bit up as well. The brett starts off pretty average but kicks it up a couple gears as it warms further. The malts are sweet and tasty and help balance things out a big. The barrels add a nice subtle depth. Alcohol is hidden very nicely. Body is about medium with decent carbonation.

D: Pretty easy to drink. The tart and sourness definitely gets up there toward the end but still easy enough to drink.

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Photo of youbrewidrink
3.85/5  rDev -8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle courtesy of scray24.

The aroma was pruney & tangy, the taste was complex with what appeared to be strong cherry & malt. The tartness was perfect and the alcohol well masked. I did however find a less than wonderful after taste that really effected the drinkability, I can't put my finger on it but it really lingered way too long.

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4.06/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

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3/5  rDev -28.9%

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3.92/5  rDev -7.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

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4.06/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Dana, thanks for the opportunity.

The coloring makes this a striking beer. Creamy head/lacing adds to the table appeal.

While sour beers aren't my fancy, this is a another beer with a tang that is just down right yummy. There is the "dark fruits"...malt, the wine quality and subtle barrel. Everything is so balanced.

The mouthfeel is light and creamy. Drinkability is pretty high. The 11% is well hidden. If I didn't know better, I'd open another bottle.

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The Dissident from Deschutes Brewery
Beer rating: 94 out of 100 with 1497 ratings