The Dissident | Deschutes Brewery

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The DissidentThe Dissident
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Brewed by:
Deschutes Brewery
Oregon, United States
deschutesbrewery.com

Style: Flanders Oud Bruin

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 10.90%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Flanders style sour brown brewed with dark candi sugar and Oregon Montmorency cherries, aged in Pinot Noir barrels.

30 IBU

First release (9.0% ABV) - August 2008
Second release (10.5% ABV) - November 2010 (~118bbl)
Third release (11.4% ABV) - October 2012
Fourth release (10.7% ABV) - December 2014

Added by MisterClean on 08-19-2008

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Avg:
4.16
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Photo of PittBeerGirl
3.96/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Bottle I got in a trade. Thanks!!

A- Dark murky cedar colored body that pours with a 2-3 finger or so off-white head. Head eventually fades to a thick collar and has great retention from there. Some lacing is left behind in the glass. Body is somewhat translucent but the red light still shines through pretty well

S-Vinegar comes to the nose first followed by a metallic presence. Underneath this is additional sourness, oak, cherry and a yeasty funk. Its right on for the style-but maybe a little too metallic.

T-Upfront the oak and cherries really come through well and underneath is a slightly sour funk typical of the style of any Belgian brown. Some more sourness comes through for the finish-this sourness is more acidic than vinegarlike and is light to moderate in strength. What lingers on the palate is a slight acidic sourness, oak, a hint of cherry and a very slight metallc presence.

M- Wonderful. Light to medium carbonation and a smooth slightly yeasty body.

D- This is a very good beer. Much milder than other sours I have experienced recently. The oak and cherry are really the main characters for this brew. A well done brew by Deschutes and I look forward to trying others (have the Abyss 08 in my cellar).

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Photo of Gatch
3.96/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

On-tap at Papago Brewing Company in Scottsdale, AZ for the Deschutes Base Camp Week event.

This is by far the best I've had of the style. Granted, I haven't had too many, but I thought I just wouldn't like this style because of the versions I've had. Since this was from Deschutes, one of the most consistent breweries in the nation in my opinion, I decided to give this a try.

Copper color with no head.Sour and sweet, smooth, and nothing dominates as a stand out flavor. Not too sour and not the typical smell and taste of sweaty feet. The smell is pungent and bitter as is the taste, but it finishes so well.

Highly recommended.

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Photo of homersimpson67
3.96/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Okay I will admit I am a complete hophead so I wasn't sure what to expect when my beer guy gave me this bottle of sour cherries. I sat on this for a few months as the bottle suggested(2014) label said best after 10/27/15 to enjoy, and today just cracked open and poured into a snifter and let warm for a few hours.

L= Pours a reddish copper and very thin apple cider look to it, small quarter finger of head quickly dissipates to a very clear reddish copper wine look.
S= smells of sour cherries and brandi, a hint of dank cinnamon and perhaps clove, and certainly some acidic alcohol
T= Sweetness up front, very much like wine and vinegar, not sure, perhaps just not used to the style. I think it is getting better as it is warming up a bit.
F= Its like wine, with a sweet/sour flavor to it, nothing special to me, again perhaps it is because I am not used to this style of beer.
O= I truly want to like this ale but I am not sure. Maybe I should have sat on it longer. I am such a fresh hop junkie it is a big diversion for me. It did grow on me as it warmed and I would definately enjoy trying it again in the future. Thanks Mark!!

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Photo of GreesyFizeek
3.95/5  rDev -5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Bottle shared by Nick the other day, thanks man.

This one pours a light reddish color, mostly clear, with a small head, and no lacing.

This one smells like macerated cherries, red wine vinegar, red grapes, oak, and a slight lactic sourness.

Like most of Deschutes' barrel aged stuff, this shows some nice restraint. The cherry flavor is very nice, sweet but mostly sour, with wet oak, sour grapes, a slight breadiness, and a very light sourness. This would be much improved if there was a stronger malt backbone.

The alcohol level is not present at all. That is amazing. It has a light mouthfeel, with a slightly thin body, and a good level of carbonation.

This is really well put together, but doesn't approach some of the best of this style from Belgium.

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Photo of errantnight
3.95/5  rDev -5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Welcome to the wonderful world of... American Wild Ales vaguely crafted in the style of Flanders Reds/Brunes. Whatever this wants to be called, it's both a fine introduction, and also (I hope) a work in progress.

From an appearance and aroma standpoint, there's really nothing to improve on. A heady pour (finger plus) of relatively thick foam with solid organic lacing, relatively tenacious head with solid retention, hazy but luminscent, a beautifully muted amber (toward brown) that looks luscious and not tepid or dirty.

Aroma brings a solid perfume of sharp, sour fruit, deep funk (a bit of cat pee), vinegar and cherry. Great stuff.

And in fact, at first glance, the taste follows through. There's some early palate toasty, caramel malt sweetness that gives way to cherry sour, dry and tannic. Nice effervescence. There's a hint of alcohol late. The problem is that it's lacking a back palate, and what's there sits as an off, metallic bitter sourness that is mildly unpleasant. It's relatively clean, but too much minerality to this makes it feel hard. It seems to have more in common with Supplication in terms of body as opposed to the richer, sweeter Duchesse, or Liefmans, but it doesn't have the complexity of sourness of Russian River beer, I wonder if this is solidly lactic sourness I'm tasting and not the more aggressive pedio which I perceive as a more lemony, sharp sour note that hits earlier.

It's relatively clean (for a funky beer), properly built, gorgeous to look at and inhale, with no significant flaws... but it's in need of refinement. That said, considering the exploding price points of American Wild Ales, it's nice to see a brewer not start ramping up to the 15-30 dollar range before they've mastered the art (in that price range I still only trust Russian River, domestically, for wild ales... although I still end up buying others). Here's hoping each subsequent release pushes this beer from simply good to the realm of the truly great.

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Photo of Fcolle2
3.95/5  rDev -5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Pour dark Amber/ light brown with a light tan head. Aromas of vinegar, sour toffee/caramel malt, hints of cherry and oak. Much more cherry flavor is present in the taste. Mild oak, tame vinegar which is nicely balanced and some light toffee and caramel malt

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Photo of codewarrior
3.94/5  rDev -5.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

22oz bomber poured into a Balloon.

Finding this beer was quite the Odyssey. Every store I went to had 1 case period, and a 1 bottle per customer limit. At one store they would only give us 1 bottle for my girlfriend and I combined (even after she pleaded that she too was a beer fanatic) ... ridiculous.

Fortunately, this is a pretty damn good beer, and seems to have been worth the journey.

L: Pours a ruddy, rustish brown orange transparent. Half-finger wispy head, carbonation looks just about right for the style.

S: Starts a light sweetness, and then the bottom drops out into a constantly evolving oldness with a touch of sour. Sour isn't brett ... I don't think.

T: A bit more shallow than the smell, but still good. Sweet up front to a tart extreme, rolling into an enveloping sourness. Heat kicks in the back and the super 10% ABV makes itself known.

F: A touch thin, but good. Opens up well. Finish is warming.

D: Doesn't stand up to the hype ... but it's real real good anyway.

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Photo of bifrostguard
3.93/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Note: This 22oz bottle is 9% not 11%

A - Pours a deep, translucent brownish amber color with a small light colored tan head that subsided fairly quickly. Somewhat effervescent.

S - Very interesting. Smells of fermented cherries, brown malt and has some subtle wine characteristics.

T - Sour cherries and acidic flavors dominate in the beginning. They eventually transition into a bitter alcohol end. This gets more interesting the further down the glass you go. The tartness from the cherries and oak from the aging really begin to balance each other out quite nicely.

M - Good for a sour beer with some nice carbonation

D - For the style this is pretty drinkable. The alcohol content will prevent you from drinking a large volume of this stuff and the flavor doesn't seem to fade too much with the quantity consumed. A bomber is about perfect.

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Photo of NorCalYeti
3.92/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

taste- sour notes in the mid part and the finish of the drink, cinnamon in the finish, wood barrel, sour cherry, a little sweet for my taste

color- deep amber, apple juice

clarity- clear

smell- met with a blast of green apple when opened. funk, apples, spice, synthetics, slightly estery

body- smooth on the palate, prickly at the front of the mouth, slightly oily, a hint of heat from the alcohol, medium-length finish that also disappears in the mouth, lean

appearance- small off-white foamy ring around the glass after the initial pour. no lacing. a little active carbonation from the etching in the tulip

overall impression- flavors are well integrated but also mellow. my impression is that this beer would have been more vibrant with less age on it and probably my preference. a little disappointed with this effort. wanted a little more sourness in the drink

notes and comments- 2010 vintage. label says best after 11/01/11. belgian-style brown ale.

glassware: tulip

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Photo of depechemode1983
3.92/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured into a tulip.

A - Slightly Cloudy mahogany in color. 2 finger tan head withe moderate retention. There is just little spots of lacing here and there.

S - Vinegar, green olives, sour cherries and grapes are present. It has somewhat of a soy sauce smell. Very acidic. Very Sour.

T - Semi sweet and sour. Lots of vinegar and sweet/sour cherries, green apples. Acidic and astringent with undertones of sweet caramel. Basically very red wine like.

M - Medium bodied. Carbonation is bubbly and pleasant. Not bad.

O - Damn. Ive only had a few of these wild tasting beers and this is the best one so far. Hope I can land another. gkunkle
hooked me up with the bottle. Thanks man.

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Photo of buffettfan
3.92/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from the bottle, into a tulip glass.

Poured dark almost red/purple. About an inch of head, decent lacing.

Smell, was fruity, like berries, and a stong cherry scent came out.

Taste was pretty sweet, and fruity, and quite sour. I could taste the cherries I smelled earlier. Had a little woody taste int he finish.

I liked this beer, not one I would drink on a normal occasion, but it was enjoyable.

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Photo of Ri0
3.91/5  rDev -6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

poured 22oz bottle into teku. Drink after 8/2013

A - It pours a dirty ruby with an off white 2.5 finger head that fizzes. Fades quickly into a collar and leaves behind a few traces of lace.

S - Faint cherries, dark tart fruit, and red wine. Some oak and brown sugar round it out.

T - Red wine and oak seem to be the most prevalent with some medicinal cherry flavor. Not very sour and only somewhat tart. Dark fruits and brown sugar fill in on the finish. There is a booziness to this beer.

M - Carbonated and light bodied, very dry.

O - This was good, but I didn't like as much as most. A bit too much red wine and the cherry flavor was medicinal for me. Good, but not exceptional.

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Photo of Chico1985
3.91/5  rDev -6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

October 2012 bottle shared generously by who else but cbutova. Had a 'drink after' date of August 2013.

Pour is darkish amber with some haze. A small off-white head forms a ring after some time and stays as such. Nose brings a good balance of tart dark fruits, red wine, and oak.

Taste once again brings an impressive balance. It's tart and oaky but not puckering or over the top. Dark fruits, red wine, brown sugar and vanilla. Incredibly smooth for 11+% with moderate carbonation, very drinkable.

Like The Abyss, this is a testament to making a complex 11% beer very subtle. Low-end sourness and acidity sets this apart some for the style and lets the wine barrel show through a bit more.

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Photo of RickSawyer
3.9/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Thanks goes to TRIFECTA for this beer.

Pours cola amber,pretty clear. Nice merangue creamy head piles up and falls to an offwhite cap. Smell is full. Dark cherries, fig, bready malt, leather, raspberry, some nice tropical bouquet, pineappley brett notes. Taste begins with a bit of malt character, followed up with pineapple, orange, cherries. Very tart, not overly sour as some wild ales can be. Brett offers a very nice tropical fruity flavor. Mouthfeel is creamy, a bit heavy, lightly carbonated. Solid beer.

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Photo of joe1510
3.9/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

22oz Bomber
$11.49
Liquid Solutions

Dissident fills my glass a surprisingly clear handsome mahogany. A few tiny particles float here and there but in no way affect the clarity. The body absolutely glows when backlit as the tiny carbonation bubbles scatter to the surface. The khaki head grew to two fingers without a problem and slowly fell to a respectable cap that gets creamier and creamier as it settles. This head leaves behind some tight, sticky, intricate lacing. It makes me want to dive right in.

I really enjoy the smell of this brew, slightly acidic with a nice damp oakiness. The cherries are there but way in the back with a solid underlying sweetness. Each swirl to bring the head back to life brings forward more of the sweetness but after the head settles back down the somewhat tart acidity comes back to the forefront. I'm a big fan of the tartness in the nose and the wet oak but the sweetness is a little on the cough drop side but that fades quickly.

The flavor is exactly what the nose suggested. A quick flash of acidic vinegar and damp oak get things started in a nice way. The cherries come through with a nice tartness in the middles that segues into the acidity again on the swallow. This beer has all the makings of being excellent. Unfortunately the overall flavor seems to be somewhat flat and watery. The flavors are just lacking.

The body is medium when it first hits the tongue but the active carbonation adds some frothiness to the backend. There's a bit of tartness in the back that lingers slightly. This brew has a good body.

The flavor didn't come together as well as I would have liked but this beer is super drinkable, even for the high abv. Each glass I poured was gone before I knew it. The Dissident really goes down easy.

I enjoyed The Dissident quite a bit even though it didn't come together like I hoped it would. It did go down super easy and I'd like more of it now that my glass is empty. I don't know what some time will do but I doubt it will do much. Hopefully things get a little better here.

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Photo of Beginner2
3.9/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Had at the City Beer Store in San Francisco. Pricey. Most I ever paid for a bottle. But it is on the list of "1001 Beers To Have Before I Die," so you gotta pay the price sometimes to enjoy life more fully. I also shared it with my wife and her friend... And as much as I tried to convince them that Oud Bruin is an acquired taste, they could not transcend the sourness. (I did not bother to tell them it was a $60 bottle.)

I occasionally find an American rendition of this style that tempers its sourness enough for my palate, but The Dissident is not one of them. However, my next bottle of any Oud Bruin will be paired with creamy dishes so the sour, at least, is put to work cutting the fat.

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Photo of djbreezy
3.89/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

On-tap at Portland pub for release day. Also bought 3 bottles for cellaring.

appearance - flat, transparent brown, carbonation only noticeable if you swish the glass

smell - cherries, faint oak, big funk

taste - tart cherries, funk/brett, alcohol

mouthfeel - light/medium body, low carbonation, oily

drinkability - flavorful but seems flat, not too sour, not ready for prime consumption yet, eager to see how the bottles do in the recommended 18 mos of aging

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Photo of SomethingClever
3.88/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

22oz bottle poured into snifter 2014 version

A: Small tight off white head looked soapy drops to a fizzy film body is a clear redish hue with what looks like decent carbonation.

S: wine grapes, vinegar, a little sour apple, cherries and a little oak

T: nice bit of wine flavors up front with a touch of sour giving way to some sweetness and residual sugars with maybe a little plum taste on the end with some lingering sweetness

M: sweet a touch cloying and a little prickly on the end makes the beer feel syrupy and a dryish finish

O: It isn't bad, very different the wine is definitely present but without that sour or bitterness. I think I would have a hard time telling you this was a belgian beer maybe from the candied residual sugars. It is a decent beer but not extraordinary either.

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Photo of bum732
3.88/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Pours a nice reddish brown, decent bubbly head leaving great lacing. Smells of caramel, red wine vinegar, some barnyard funkiness, cherries, rasberries, alcohol. Tastes of mild fruity sourness up front followed by an earthy almost woody finish. Lots of lemony sourness, but not too much. Lots of flavor up front with a very neutral finish. Good mouthfeel, great carbonation.

My first Flanders Oud Bruin, not bad, but not great. Especially compared to lambics and Flanders reds. There is nice flavor up front, but not much on the back end. Maybe thats par for the style. Still, a decent beer.

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Photo of scottfrie
3.88/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22oz bottle into AVBC snifter. 2010 vintage with best after date 11/01/11 printed on label.

A: Pours a glowing cranberry red with a thick off-white head that reduced into a thick collar that left rings of thick lacing down the glass.
S: Sweet and lightly tart notes of red berries, musty basement brett, and just a hint of alcohol.
T: Follows the nose with tart berries, musty brett, sugary fruit juice and a ton of grapefruit pith and orange zest. Flavors are vinous, spicy and almost peppery. The aftertaste is full of woody notes and is fairly dry. The sweetness in the brew sits on my lips long after the swallow.
M: Bubbly carbonation froths up in my mouth over a medium body and slick mouthfeel. Tartness isn't fully developed yet as this beer is still young, but there is a fair amount of gritty tannin.
D: Overall pretty good but I think age will do this one wonders. I can taste the complexities, but I think it could be better. I can't wait to see how it tastes after the best after date!

EDIT: 2010 vintage consumed 12/2012.
Drier and more developed than I remember, more complex. Definitely recomend a few years of age!

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Photo of 7ways
3.88/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

2010 batch. It wasn't until after I opened it that I saw the best after date of November 2011. I've read the discussions on this kind of dating, and I still think it's a ridiculous concept.

What a beautiful pour! Crystal clear burnished ruby and orange with a vanishing white head. Sometimes it just looks really damn good for no reason. Maybe I'm just thirsty.

The cherry is somewhat obvious on the nose, but it's hidden by slight acetone, salt, and oak. Smells more funky than sour. I'm going to go on record and say that it's really hard to get a good idea of aroma from many wild/sour beers, maybe from lack of head. If I swirl this thing any more it's going to go flat.

There are some great, some interesting, and some not too good flavors in this beer. Very, very complex; it changes a lot from sip to swallow. Mild acetic sourness complements flavors of old wood, sharp black cherry, tart candy, rhubarb, and bitter medicine lingering a little too long on a super dry finish.

Medium full body, and rather low carbonation. It would be nice if there were more bubbles to "wash away" the vinegar.

Nice Flemish sour, but I'd rather have Red Poppy or several Belgians any day.

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Photo of erikm25
3.88/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: Pours a darkened plum and thick raisined amber. Despite an aggressive pour there was a relatively minor reddish and copper hued head. Lacing was decent and the beer appears very heavy yet vibrant in the glass.

S: Tart cherry and cranberry aroma shocks the nose. A malt and fresh grape smell was thrown in for good measure. A ripened vinegar undertone is present but overall the smell hints that the taste will have some sour goodness.

T: Dominant sour cherry kick at the outset making the overall flavor tart and unique. There is a tinge of peppery vinegar and despite the 9% on the bottle it tastes (and inevitably feels) higher then that. A good balance between fruity bitterness and smoked oak honey. As the beer gets warmer the sweetness increases. I don't drink a lot of wine but it reminded me of the few times I have. I had no idea what to expect but enjoyed the sour and fruity aspects of this beer.

M: This is rather thin and slick in the mouth which is good considering the flavor and sour kick.

D: This beer does not hold back any punches. Maybe a good night cap or after dinner beer. I'm not that bright so it took me a little time to get this bottle open though that is pretty irrelevant. This is the first time I have tried this style and it was a welcome change from my norm. I will probably pick up another for long term storage.

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Photo of Ghenna
3.87/5  rDev -7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Label states best after 11/01/11, eh, it is a good thing I have 4 more bottles.

Pours a medium amber color with a bit of quickly disappearing off white head.

Smells: tart tart tart, acidic, sour cherries, malty smell in there too. A little boozy as it warms up.

Taste: Tart intensifies after a few seconds, harshens suddenly, then mostly disappears. Sour cherry is evident in the taste after a second in the mouth, and coasts through to leave a little of itself as aftertaste. As it warms I notice that that there was a good deal more malt sweet in the beginning, which becomes overtaken by the tart as it warms.

The beer defintely coats the mouth and is intense, but beyond a little residual sour cherry it doesn't stick around. The nature of sour beers makes it low in the area of drinkability.

This is a pretty nice beer for it being as young as it is and coming from a brewery that does not specialize in sours. The beer actually reminds me a lot of Russian River's Sanctification, their brett only beer, which is why at this young age it doesn't get a better score from me. Pure Brett, especially this young, is kind of harsh. It lacks the nuance I've experienced with RR's sours that make use of all three strands of sour yeasts- a bit of lactic acid would tame the tartness add a creamy mouthfeel. Still, I'm eager to try this again in a year or two.

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Photo of sweemzander
3.87/5  rDev -7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

22oz. bottle poured into a tulip. Best after 11/01/11. I got this almost a year ago in a trade and I cannot remember from whom; thank you whoever you were!

(A)- Pours a hazy crimson red color. Some white froth and lace.

(S)- A nice oaky tart cherry leather and tobacco character to it. Nice and dynamic with out being sweet. Very subtle funk.

(T)- Heavy on the oak but a dense cherry fruit to it with some subtle Brett and band aid character. Some tartness, but subtle.

(M)- A good carbonation level to it. A decent balance too, but slightly strange and medicinal.

(D)- A decent flanders, though I think it still possibly needs more time to develop better. The medicinal note became more and more prevalent as it warmed.

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Photo of BrewMonkey
3.87/5  rDev -7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Note: Bottle indicates 9% ABV, not 11%.

Pours deep amber to brown with an inch or so of off-white head that recedes somewhat quickly leaving very little lacing behind.

Sourness dominates the aroma, with hints of cherry, berries, overripe fruit, candy and bready yeast.

Flavor is intensely sour and fruity, with loads of cherry flavor and sort of a rasberry sherbert bite on the pallate. Hints of oak barely break through the sourness. Mouthfeel is bubbly and smooth like carbonated juice.

Might be the first beer from Deschutes I did not enjoy, but I do not seem to have a pallate for sour ales, so I've based my scores on my wife's impressions, as she prefers these types of offerings more than I do.

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The Dissident from Deschutes Brewery
4.16 out of 5 based on 1,366 ratings.
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