The Dissident | Deschutes Brewery

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Brewed by:
Deschutes Brewery
Oregon, United States | website

Style: Flanders Oud Bruin

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 11.40%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Flanders style sour brown brewed with dark candi sugar and Oregon Montmorency cherries, aged in Pinot Noir barrels.

30 IBU

First release (9.0% ABV) - August 2008
Second release (10.5% ABV) - November 2010 (~118bbl)
Third release (11.4% ABV) - October 2012
Fourth release (10.7% ABV) - December 2014

Added by MisterClean on 08-19-2008

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Photo of Braz
3.81/5  rDev -8.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.75

Got a bottle at Tacoma Boys. Says 2012 on the label. Cool packaging with the Makers Mark style wax covering, but was kind of a pain in the ass to open. Aromas of vinegar. Very sharp and sour fragrance. Amber orange in color with a tan head that doesn't sustain very long, but leaves nice lace on top. Can tell it's highly carbonated as it look and sounds explosive. Wow. This is a bomb to the palate. Heavy alcohol notes. Very tart and light sourness. The alcohol has an immediate warming effect. Fruity, sour apple and cherry flavors. Alot of red wine in the mix as well. I don't care for the aftertaste. It's very metallic and just off somehow. Too bad. Maybe not as carbonated as it looks at first but I think it lost alot of it sitting in the glass. Very interesting beer and I love the primary flavor, just don't like the finish.

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Photo of macrosmatic
4.19/5  rDev +0.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Up front, a note - in the spirit of experimentation and for comparison purposes, I drank this 2012 bottle about 8 months before the "Best After" date stamped on the bottle. Finding myself with a couple of these brews, I wanted to get a baseline. That, and I'm extra-excited to try one!

Thanks to dujayhawk for this one. Reviewed from notes. Poured from bomber into a Peg's snifter glass.

A: Opaque medium brown, thin white foam floats on the top, low amount of visible carbonation. This isn't a particularly pretty beer.

S: The sour hits you from two feet away. Tangy, fruity, some oak sweetness and tannins. There's a bit of vinegar, a bit vinous...but overall, mouth-watering.

T: Tart and sour, and a fruitiness here (it's the cherry, I'm sure, but I don't know that I would have been able to pick that flavor out), oak tannins, some sweet malt. Sweet and dry simultaneously here. There is a vinous aspect as well. Dry finish.

M: Medium body, decent carbonation sensation, moderate alcohol presence.

O: This was very enjoyable, but I can't wait to see what happens over the next year or so. At present it just doesn't have the depth of flavor I'm looking for and expecting, but I was so far before the "best after" date...I have high hopes.

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Photo of BrewSnob
3.72/5  rDev -10.6%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

A: A grainy, yet creamy red and purple pour. Has a slight "Tsu-Xiao Province" look, for anyone who's visited the far east. The pour was memorable for many reasons. I cannot get into this.

S: My dude Dave came by as I was pouring and said "that damn beer smell like my FEET, bro", and I agree. Feet smell.

T: Smoky yet overall a taste of vinegar and slight taste of wine. There was also a very slight aftertaste that was unlike anything before. The only thing I can compare it to is it was 80% raspberry and 15% baseball glove and 5% man.

M: The Mouthfeel on this is as big and groovy as I've ever swished. Swish and you'll be a believer. Dave said "this feel like mustard", but that one I did NOT agree with.

O: I've never had a beer like this and I don't know if I ever will again. I only had enough money for one bottle, and I may let that stand as the greatest beer where I've only had money for 1 bottle.

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Photo of mnphish
4.35/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2012 reserve 22oz bottle served into a Snifter

A: Ruby Red with a small head

S: Sour cherries and barnyard funk

T: Lots of of tart-sour cherry, light taste of vinegar and hints of oak/vanilla

M: Smooth and a medium body, nicely carbonated

O: Another A grade beer from Deschutes. Fire.

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Photo of TheSevenDuffs
4.08/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

2012 Vintage poured in to snifter.

A - Murky brown with an orange glow around the edges. A thin layer of dirty white head formed an reduced to some scattered bubbles around the edges of the glass.

S - Sour/tartness and lots of funk up front with sour cherries and oak also present.

T - A big tartness is present up front without being overly puckering or sour. Sour cherries, oak and some dark fruit also come through. There is a vinegar-like flavour present throughout and a touch of barnyard funk.

M - Medium body; creamy. Light carbonation.

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Photo of yamar68
4.2/5  rDev +1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Classic looking Bruin - murky burnt caramel capped with a brief khaki fizz that settles down to form a neat collar that actually retains from start to finish. Pretty good amount of alcohol oil as well. The second pour shows something entirely different - thick head that, again, fades fast but forms a beautiful cap on the beer that laces as well as you could expect.

Extremely acidic... fresh vanilla oak qualities, tart cherries, plum, maybe a bit of mushy berries, the alcohol character plays an apparent role without offending any other part of the beer... orange flesh.

Mmm... tart cherry, ripe raisin, banana peel (?), fruity tannin like brightness, not quite as dominantly sour as I have heard from some, but it is sure smooth... a delicious beer indeed.

Lovely stuff.

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Photo of N3rdM3t4l
4.75/5  rDev +14.2%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Wax sealed brown bomber with best by date on label. Too bad I ignored that and am drinking it 9 months early!

A: sidepour gets no head or cap or ring. That could be the 11% or so alcohol doing its work. Pours a cloudy red tinted brown. Exactly what I expected to see. And boy do it look tasty.

S: I don't even need to be near the glass to smell the sour cherry. Making me salivate. Nose to the glass gets more cherry and some alcohol. Bits of oaky vanilla and no hops.

T: tart cherry followed by more tart and some more tartness. A hint of sweetness followed by more tart delicious cherry. Wonderfully sour beer.

M: medium body, good and smooth.

O: this bottle is 9months shy of its best after date so it needs a little age. It is kinda harsh but where it is going is fantastic. Can mostly taste the sour not much maltyness.

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Photo of Rutager
4.12/5  rDev -1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

'12 bottle from my father in law. Is it fair to review this before the "best after" date? Oh well...
Reviewed 12/25/12. Drank this one after the Christmas morning mayhem. Santa deserved it, even though it was only 10am.

Appearance. Pours a hazy amber-brown with a slight pink tint and a thin, off-white head.

Smell. Cherries and plenty of funky old dank wood. Just a little booze and a very faint whiff of sweet caramel malt.

Taste. Sour cherries, dry tannic wood and leather, some sweet caramel and dry earthy funk with just a hint of spicy Belgian yeast.

Mouthfeel. Medium+ body, medium carbonation, faint warmth in the back of the throat.

Overall. Nice (and big) Flanders style sour with a good amount of fruit flavour. Anxious to try the 3 bi-year vertical in the cellar now.

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Photo of kojevergas
3.7/5  rDev -11.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

2012 reserve. Best after 8/20/13. 11.4%. Brown glass bottle with waxed over cap served into a Guinness goblet in a tasting in me gaff in high altitude Castle Rock, Colorado. Reviewed live. Expectations are through the roof. Cost was $14.49.

Served straight from the refrigerator and allowed to warm over the course of consumption. Side-poured with standard vigor as no carbonation issues are anticipated.

A: Pours a two finger head, fairly thin, of decent cream, and good retention. Body colour is a semitransparent amber-auburn. No yeast particles are visible. No bubble show.

Sm: Tart raspberry and cherry, bright fruit esters, amber malts, and excellent fruit esters. An average strength aroma.

T: Restrained tartness and bacteria. Very muted wild yeast. Balanced and enjoyable. Really pleasant. Too restrained. Balanced but a bit underwhelming. I wanted more. Built well.

Mf: Smooth and wet. Excellent carbonation. Great thickness. Good presence on the palate.

Dr: Very drinkable and enjoyable. I'd have this again, but it's not an ideal sour. I've had far better. A tasty sour, but not Deschutes' beer.

High B

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Photo of kaseydad
4.3/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

2010 vintage. Best after 11/01/11.

Nice carbonation on this beast. Can already get the cherry whiffs as soon as the cap is lifted. Pours a slightly murky brown/burgandy with a beige foamy head. Nice foam that hangs on throughout session.

The aroma is big time berry, tart cherry and light vinegar. Getting a lot of green olive too. Was a little worried about the green olive taste but worrying was not necessary.

The taste is acidic with some nice sour cherry and oak as the main components. A smidge of vinegar but the blend of the sour and oak is great. Not overly bitter or sour. A light sweetness on the finish. Oak aftertaste. The wine flavors are definitely there as well. Very flavorful.

Mouthfeel is good. Again, nicely carbonated after two years of bottle conditioning. The harshness is minimal like some Flanders can be.

Overall...believe the hype. This is a great beer and one of the best Sours that incorporates a ton of flavor and keeps a little sweetness in the mix. No way this is 11.4%. Deceptively drinkable and the palate fatigue just is not there.

Great beer.

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Photo of mdaschaf
4.09/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

2012 Vintage.

A: Pours a purple/burgundy color with a small off-white head that reduces quickly and leaves little lacing.

S: Slight acidity, a little red wine, some cherry and stone fruit. Faint tartness with a little sweetness on the finish.

T: Quite vinegary with some cherry and raspberry, its rather wine like and tannic. There is some oak and a bit of vanilla and red grapes.

M: Medium bodied with moderate carbonation, slightly dry finish. On the acetic side.

O: Pretty good, not a sour as I'd hoped, but really like how the oak comes through and how forward the vanilla is. Excited to give it a try after the best by date.

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Photo of flaran
4.6/5  rDev +10.6%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

2008 bottle, purchased last week at Toronado SF Abyss Night.

Appearance: Beautiful clear ruddy brown, with lots of lace from the lively head.

Smell: Sweet, funky, tart smell.

Taste: Fruity and funky, awesome cherry flavor. Moderate acidity, sweet finish. Some of the wine comes through but it is well balanced. The alcohol on this one (9%) comes through a bit, though in a good way. I wonder how the 2012 at 2% higher ABV will end up tasting..

Mouthfeel: That lively, happy, bubbly head comes through in the mouthfeel. Acidity from the barrel aging comes through distinctly.

Overall: This is the best American take on the Oud Bruin style I've had. It is delicious and well balanced at this age, though I wonder how it was after a year. I enjoy the prominent acidity, so I definitely want to hold onto a 2012 or two to have in 2016.

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Photo of DavidST
4.25/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a 22oz bottle into a tulip glass, 2012 version, best after 8/20/13. This pours a slightly cloudy reddish brown color with a fizzy tan head which fizzes away to a little film. The smells are great, you get some obvious sour notes, vinegar, a load of cherries, some barnyard funk, some white grape, some obvious alcohol. The feel is medium. The taste is amazing, Deschutes knows how to make a beer, you get some bitterness, a little brett, some sour notes, vinegar, some cherries, the alcohol is also present though and a little age wouldn't hurt this.

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Photo of gtermi
4.7/5  rDev +13%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A: The beer pours a brownish amber body with a thin tan head that quickly fades and leaves a tiny bit of lacing on the glass.

S: Strong amount of cherries hit me right in the face! There is also a nice strong sour smell that tingles the nose. It sort of has a bubble gum smell too

T: Like the taste, there is a good amount of cherries. There is also a nice sound of sourness that turns into a sweet fruity flavor. This is seriously one of the best beers that I have ever tasted

M: There is a tingle on the jaws that come from the sour. There is also a little bit of carbonation on the back of the throat as the beer goes down.

O: Deschutes does it again! Man this is one bad ass beer that instantly becomes one of my favorites of all time. I can't wait to try this beer after the "Best After" date

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Photo of StuporJew
4.85/5  rDev +16.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

2012 Vintage, Poured into Duvel Chalice.

Appearance - Cloudy, rust-brown. Almost the color of freshly made caramel sauce, but with some red dirt thrown in for fun. So excited to taste this beer...

Smell - Typical Oud Bruin funk, with leather, HEAVY cherry, clove, bell pepper, and wine barrel notes. You can seriously smell the Pinot Noir barrel on this beer... (I know. The brewmaster and I had a good conversation about the barrels they use) Vanilla and grape-skin are apparent in the nose too. Eek!!!

Taste - Everything I hoped for in this beer, and then some. Pinot Noir, vanilla and oak lead the palate, followed by the tart cherry notes, some more tobacco smoke / cigar box, and some creaminess out of left field. I cannot begin to explain the complexity in the flavor palate of this beer... All I can say is WOW. It could surely do with some time to mature, and transmogrify into something even more complex and beastly!

Mouthfeel - Sharp acidity akin to Oregon Pinot Noir (This flavor is pretty dominant in this beer), white grape/kumquat. Full and slightly creamy, which is somewhat strange for a sour. But round and perfectly effervescent, as it should be. Once again, I do not have enough words to perfectly describe this beer... But I will find them, when I open my other bottle, next year.

Overall - a phenomenal beer all around. The influence of the cherries, and wine barrel-aging impact this beer in a way that makes it unique, but a close friend to every Flemish-style sour ale on the face of the planet. Deschutes should be DAMN PROUD of this beer. Out of all the American interpretations of the Flemish style, this one is not only an amazing and spot-on homage to the style... it should be a preview of the next step in the evolution of sour ales. I am floored by this beer. You should drink it. (*Arnold Voice*) DRINK IT! DRINK IT NOW!!!

Cheers.

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Photo of matttttYCE
4.42/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

2012 release

Deep and murky redish brown, with a tan colored head that is about a finger high. Lace is moderate and the head retention is so-so. Sour notes from the get-go. Plenty of tartness, cherries, vinous noes, some vinegar, citrus tones, earthiness, light funk, dark fruits, and possibly some leather. The taste comes with more vinegar, earthiness, and red wine than the aroma but still plenty of sourness, vinegar, tart cherries, citrus bite, plum, with white grapes, green apple, oak, and some spice undertones. Mouthfeel is medium. Moderate feeling and a bit filmy consistency, medium range carbonation, slightly heavier than medium body, and a medium-long finish.

Overall, a damn fine sour beer. A couple years back I took a chance on this when I saw it on tap and I was both surprised by and impressed with this beer. This beer certainly opened my eyes to a portion of the beer world I had been missing out on and it remains my favorite Oud Bruin of those that I've tried.

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Photo of Resuin
4.53/5  rDev +8.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.5

2012 Reserve served from a bomber into a Golden Monkey Goblet. Wax dipped bottle top. Bottle reads: best after 08/20/13 so I'll be sure to throw some of these in the cellar and review again in a year or so.

Appearance: A lovely rose-brown color pours into the glass and leaves a couple cm of white, thin head which dissipates fairly quickly.

Smell: Sour, but not overbearing. Some cherry and tart flavors meet the nose. Definitely an enjoyable scent.

Taste: Tart cherries, the perfect amount of sour, and the alcohol is extremely well balanced to make this beer exceptional. The 11.4% ABV is extremely well integrated, not to mention well-hidden.

Mouth-feel: Wonderful and balanced. A good amount of carbonation - this is definitely one to pause with a little before swallowing. That being said, it's pretty light - typical of a sour-type beer.

Overall: Such a well balanced Flanders Oud Bruin, especially for its strength. I could drink this one all night. The cherries used in brewing definitely come out and add to this beer. This is definitely a beer to savor, it is delicious and gets even better as it warms, after opening.

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Photo of kawilliams81
3.6/5  rDev -13.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2010 vintage. Poured from a dark red waxed 22 oz bottle into a Lost Abbey chalice.

A- pours a dirty, dark orange with 2 finger off-white head. Small trails and bubbles remain on the glass.

S- vinegar, tart cherries, some spice and earthiness.

T- vinegar and tart cherries for a brief moment then, very earthy, dirt vinous notes. This beer has a medicinal almost spoiled taste to it.

M- medium body and carbonation. Abv is hidden well and has a dry finish.

O- wish I would have had this a year or so ago. Not sure how this is fresh but I think this beer is well past it's peak.

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Photo of panajoe
4.26/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4.5

Wow. This is one amazing beer. The taste is so far from what a typical beer is, but at the same time there is no doubt that this is a beer. There are so many tastes and flavors that I can't pick anything out to describe. I drank from a bottle so I don't know what it's appearance is like. This is not just another craft beer that tastes like just hops. This is beer art. Conceptual art applied to beer. Beer taken to an extreme that makes it something else but still keeping with the primacy of what beer is. This is my favorite beer. Sadly, I have moved from the west coast and I can't find anything from Oregon. I even love the packaging, it's art also.

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Photo of MattyG85
4.62/5  rDev +11.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured from 22 oz. waxed bottle into a Surly Darkness chalice glass. 2012 Reserve with "best after" date of 8/20/13.

Appearance: Pours a deep and very cloudy copper amber orange with a light tint of red. Moderate bubbles and a decent two fingers of off white head that quickly fade away. Moderate lacing left on the glass.

Smell: A nicely funky and fruity Belgian wine like aroma. Belgian yeast with a good amount of funk. Big hints of Brett and sour cherries. Hints of red wine, white grapes, apple, vanilla, oak, and vinegar. Also some hints of dark plum and prune. In the background is some light caramel malt and brown sugar. A very complex and well balanced aroma. Not overwhelming with the sourness or sweetness.

Taste: Tastes as full, complex, and good as it smells. Big taste of funky Belgian yeast with Brett. Big fruit esters, sour cherries, green apples, and grapes standing out the most. Also some notes of pear and dark fruits including prune and plum. Very wine like taste along with some vinegar. Sweet but nicely drying. Some of the barrel makes it into the taste with notes of oak and vanilla. Light malt character with some caramel along with a little brown sugar. A bold taste that is very well balanced. The funk, sourness, and fruity sweetness blend well. Really good taste.

Mouthfeel: Medium to heavy feeling body with a carbonation on the lower side of medium. Fairly tart and very smooth. Alcohol heat is hidden pretty well.

Overall: A really great Belgian style sour. Big fruity wine like flavors while the acidity and sourness is kept in check. Very complex and good tasting.

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Photo of 4DAloveofSTOUT
3.85/5  rDev -7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

poured into tulip glass.

2010 vintage.

Appearance: mahogony red bodied beer with a thin white head. Drops to a thin cap.

Smell: Vinegar, fruity, cherries, a wierd plastic note.

Taste: Cherrys, and white grapes. Mild vinegar and a mild tartness. Malty backbone that is eqaul to or stronger than the sour notes from this beer. Its got a plastic flavor it it as well.

Mouthfeel: medium bodied beer with low carbonation.

Overall: It was decent, but I was a little bit dissapointed by this beer. I think I need to try a fresh bottle to give it a fair shot.

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Photo of IKR
4.12/5  rDev -1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance:Light brown with a reddish hue. Small very light brown head that hung around.

Smell: Moderate funk, tart cherries, and some red wine notes.

Taste: Sour cherries, a bit of funk, and some oak from the barrels. Some leather notes and a bit of sweet cherries are also present. I also get a bit of a wine presence. The finish is rather dry with a slight tannic aftertaste

Mouth-feel: Fairly light bodied with a moderate level of carbonation results in a satisfying mouthful.

Overall: Good beer that I suspect will improve with some age. I have a feeling Deschute's "best after date" is really appropriate for this one.

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Photo of denver10
3.85/5  rDev -7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours caramel with a slight amber hue and a small khaki head. Smells lacto sour, brown sugar, cherries and apples, a slight hint of some vanilla and the wine barrels. Some alcohol in the finish. Amazing flavor and quite complex. Some sour lacto, tart cherries, apple, a little funky, the barrels, and some leather. I expected more alcohol to be noticeable than there actually was which was a nice surprise. A crisp, active mouthfeel. Overall, a really nice beer even 11 months prior to its best after date, I can only imagine how good it will be then.

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Photo of harrymel
4.01/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Vintage 2012
Best after 20AUG13

Pours amber with a cherry hue, etched surface with a rim of light cream foam. The smell was evident from a couple feet upon pouring - really richly cherry this year. There are notes of lacto, breat and oak with plenty of the wine character coming through and lots of nice, tart cherries. The flavor is tart up front with a bit of heat and plenty of cherry flavor. This is really remarkable in that it is very, very fruit forward and most in the style that I've had are more oak balanced. I think I prefer this approach. The tartness is not quite sour per se, but is richly enhancing the overall tone of the beer. There is much, much less wood and grain perceived this year than 2010 when fresh. Medium on light syrup body with limited, soft and fine carb with a watering finish. Nice beer. I am really glad I got a good stash of this vintage.

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Photo of bamadog
4.49/5  rDev +7.9%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

My buddy Jeff picked this one up for me while he was on a road trip out in Colorado, so muchas gracias to him. Review is from notes taken on 10/26/2012 and poured from the bottle (2010 vintage).

Appearance: Pour is a nice, ruddy caramel brown with a hint of ruby red to it; starts with a nice one finger, thick and lush head that is slightly off-white; head has good retention and it eventually fades down to a full, complete skim, albeit just a touch uneven; body is murky/cloudy, but shows strong enough carbonation bubbling up near the sides of the glass; plenty of lacing is left behind, but only where it swaths up to my mouth when I tip it to drink and none rests on the rest of the glass where it's been worked down.

Smell: Smell is so nice -- plenty of tart and acidic cherries, but there is also a certain sweetness laying in there with it, perhaps some caramel malt; definite funk, and the tartness is making my mouth water. Can't. Wait.

Taste: Tart cherries lead the way, and there is an acidic and strong bitterness (perhaps a bit lactic?) underneath it; just a touch of the sweetness mentioned in the nose as it's pretty much dominated by tart funkiness; alcohol is entirely masked.

Mouthfeel: Body is fairly light, a touch creamy; obvious pucker factor from the acidity and tartness, but it's not overwhelmingly so, so there's a nice balance to the body.

Overall: A great beer to be sure, but I'm not blown away by it like I was hoping to be. Perhaps is as good as it's supposed to be and I've only grown as an Advocate. I would love to have it again and again. I almost wish I would have drank it fresher to see if there would have been a difference, but I don't feel that it lost too much based upon reviews I've read.

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The Dissident from Deschutes Brewery
93 out of 100 based on 488 ratings.
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