The Stoic | Deschutes Brewery

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The StoicThe Stoic

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Deschutes Brewery
Oregon, United States

Style: Quadrupel (Quad)

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 11.00%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
'Brewed with pomegranate with 16.5% being aged in oak wine barrels and 16.5% being aged in oak rye whiskey barrels'

20 IBU

August 2011 - Released in 22 oz. bottles and draught.

Added by msubulldog25 on 08-03-2011

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Photo of cdkrenz
5/5  rDev +31.2%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Cellared above 45 degrees for a year, and worth the time... without a doubt.

Unbelievable. I'm not sure if this beer it that remarkable or if its my love of quads coming through after not having had one in awhile. The look, the smell, the flavors, the texture, it has it all. I have to say it is a 5.0.

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Photo of ta_hagen
4.79/5  rDev +25.7%
look: 4.75 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

Very sweet candy like taste, doesn't take like a Quad. Very fruity... Grapes, plums, cherry, and pomegranate. Clove from the aroma comes through on the tongue. Candied sugar. Probably from the Belgian yeast. Wine notes are more subdued them in the aroma but the whiskey comes through more, but very dry finish.. Caramel, toffee, and oak in the hinted background. Thumbs up for sure!!!

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Photo of stormywaters
4.75/5  rDev +24.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Suprised how light and clear this looks for a quad. I am used to thick dark quads and this is definitely more belgian to me.

a little bit of spices, a lot of carbonation, and almost a cidery type taste. Very delicious beer, one to stock up on for sure.

The 11% is hidden very well and easy to drink, i could get carried away on this one really quick.

Overall this really is an excellent beer, easily in my top 10.

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Photo of ebrauser
4.59/5  rDev +20.5%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a 22 into a snifter. Best by date of 8/4/12

Pours a burnt gold color with a white head of solid-looking foam that quickly disperses into floating islands of foam. The nose is big and complex, with very strong alcohol and yeast that does not quite overpower the subtleties of grapes, coriander, lavender and pepper. This beer is delicious! Maybe I should drink more belgians, but this one was quite good. Simple and extremely flavorful. Sweet and light, like a medium white wine. Lemon and coriander are subtle tones that bow down before an entrance of oak and earthiness. The finish could have been a little more crisp, but that is my only main complaint.

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Photo of mrasskicktastic
4.58/5  rDev +20.2%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

A - Golden copper brew with a viscous body, high carbonation and a lot of foamy head. Thick bands of lacing down the sides of the glass.

S - Grassy hops, citrus pith, pineapple, caramel malt and apricot.

T - Apricot, pineapple, honey, pine, grapefruit pith, lemon pith. Aftertaste of light bitter caramel malt and grapefruit pith.

M - Smooth, thick, creamy, refreshing. Top notch.

D - Fantastic. Deschutes does it again. This brewery always delivers. It's hard to drink too much of it, but it is great. 12 oz bottles of this would be amazing.

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Photo of HardTarget
4.57/5  rDev +19.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.75

Personal cellar from 2011 opened Jan. 2017. Black wax sealed bottle, best by 2012 date.

Appearance: Hazy orange amber glass struggles to hold a thin halo of foam that doesn't lace.

Aroma: Heady grape esters, toffee, and Belgian yeast.

Taste: Rich malt, fruit is a bit jam like, only a hint of any booze in the finish, mild leather note.

Mouthfeel: Light body, warming alcohol, low carbonation.

Overall: A winner from the cellar, no signs of oxidation, full flavor, mellowed alcohol. Almost candy sweet with enough character to keep it drinkable and interesting.

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Photo of searsclone
4.57/5  rDev +19.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a really cool looking bottle with black wax helping to seal the cap. The cap tells me "bravely done". It's an opaque deep amber with quite a bit of sediment floating. Not as much head as I had hoped for.

smells a bit like earth, but mostly like wine. If I didn't know any better, I would think I was smelling a glass of wine. Mostly white grapes, I think

Taste is grapes, and fruit. Maybe some alcohol, a little bit of hop. After reading some of the other reviews, I think that the hop that I'm getting is actually the pomegranite. I really don't get much flavor out of this one, it reminds me of a red wine.

The mouthfeel was a bit strange. To see the glass, there was very little carbonation, but in the mouth, it was quite sharp and clean. I think that the mouthfeel and drinkability was the best thing about this one.

If I see this one again, I may pick up another bottle and keep it for at least a year, and try it again.


Had this on tap, in a snifter.

Golden orange color with small head and decent lacing.

Smelled like earth and spices and honey

Taste like bubblegum, yeast, spice, honey, alcohol and maple syrup.

Crisp and sharp mouthfeel that left a creamy coating on the tonque.

I wasn't terribly impressed with this from the bottle, but on tap, I absolutely loved it.

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Photo of justinp444
4.55/5  rDev +19.4%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.5

Poured into a snifter this beer is a semi clear slight amber orange with a foamy white inch thick quickly dissipating head. Smell of pomegranate, apple, cherry, caramel, white grape juice, and some sweet malt. Taste is oak, cherry, pomeganate, vanilla, dried fruit, figs, orange, bit of whiskey, caramel, sweet malt, apple, honey, grape juice, spice at the end with some nice warming alcohol. It has a moderate to full mouth feel with a medium body. Very complex and very well balanced with a nice overall sweet fruity taste backed up by heavier oak and malt characteristic. Best by date is 05/08/16, I'm having this one fresh (08/05/15) and then trying one aged on that date.

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Photo of bizweasel
4.54/5  rDev +19.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Amazing. Belgian yeast (actually a pretty light touch) along with some strong sweetness from the malt. Sweet like a good barleywine would be, a sweetness that seems totally natural in this context. Most beers that are in the style don't choose to go so sweet, but for this beer it really, really works. Absolutely my new favorite.

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Photo of enrique_m
4.53/5  rDev +18.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.5

look: amber red, white head, tiny bubbles, and nice lacing.
smell: funky and fruity.
taste: smooth, full bodied, and the alcohol is hidden pretty well.
overall: delicious.

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Photo of BeerFMAndy
4.5/5  rDev +18.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

22 oz wax-dipped bottle poured into a snifter.
Best By 08/04/12, 11% ABV

Thanks to Wisrarebeer for this bottle!

A - Bright maple golden in color, The Stoic is a light-colored quad with just slight cloudiness hazing it. The densely-packed ivory head dots the snifter in lace as it settles slowly.

S - Abundantly spicy, The Stoic showcases Belgian yeast doin' it's thing; earthy clay, cardamom, coriander seed, and trances of banana Runt fruitiness. The complexity goes much deeper, however; fruity alcohol including raisin and light cherry, oak-infused white grapes, and a very faint vinegar-like wine aspect. Sharp rye whiskey is noticeable through the finish but almost as an afterthought in how complex the beer smells.

T - Yeast takes center stage again, pushing past all the other goings-on to provide light banana and spicy earth notes. Pomegranate is much more noticeable and serves the beer well with it's underlying wine characteristics. Sweet white grape and warm, boozy alcohol immediately follow and segue into the caramel-malty finish.

M - Warming phenol alcohol is strong in this one! Subtle-yet-gripping, it faintly things out the round, full-bodied mouthfeel that finishes with a tickle of higher carbonation. Lip-smacking dryness is welcome as it begs for another sip, quietly, without being bothersome.

O - Similar to a lightly spiced holiday dessert wine, The Stoic exudes significant complexity. Within it's extensive production process, this classic style undergoes a wonderful transformation into an elegant sipping beer with a broad depth of unique flavors to satisfy even the most discerning palate.

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Photo of jds16
4.5/5  rDev +18.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Honey colored, which Ive heard bothers some people, but looks tempting. White head with big bubbles doesn't last long, and that turns out to be the only thing that disappointed me. Aromas of honey, cherries, vanilla, grapes dominate the nose with a hint of spice. I taste peaches, honey, grapes, vanilla, oak, caramel, cloves, and just a hint of whiskey. Mesium-full body, but goes down dangerously easily.
If you want this beer to be just like the big-name Belgian quads (e.g. Abt 12) you'll be disappointed. If you're willing to let it just be itself, I think this is a phenomenal beer.

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Photo of srandycarter
4.47/5  rDev +17.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A - Pours apricot, cloudy. Nice off white head leaves to disk fast. Moderate cling lace.

S - Very fruity. Tropical fruity and Belgian funk.

T - Best part. LOVE this. Juicy fruit, candy, Belgian estery yeast and a little bitter at end. I don't give out fives often, but I can't see how this taste could be better. Alcohol pretty well hidden.

M - Medium body, good carb and excellent balance.

D - Despite the ABV, would not tire quickly.

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Photo of MattyG85
4.45/5  rDev +16.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a waxed 22 oz. bottle into a chalice. 2015 Bottle.

Appearance: Pours a deep amber orange with a moderate amount of bubbles. About a finger of off white head that quickly fades away.

Smell: A yeasty, fruity, and sweet Belgian Quad style aroma with good hints of fruit, red wine, and whiskey. Belgian yeast with good hints of clove and pepper spicing. Sweet hints of Belgian candied sugar and molasses. Barrel hints of red wine and rye whiskey along with some vanilla and oak. Big fruit hints of pomegranate and banana along with other fruit hints of raisin, fig, cherry, dates, berries, apple, pear, and orange. Malt hints of biscuit, caramel, and cracker. Light earthy hops. A really good complex aroma.

Taste: Like it smells, a yeasty, fruity, and sweet Belgian style taste with good notes of fruit, red wine, and rye whiskey. Upfront Belgian yeast with notes of pepper and clove. Sweet taste of molasses and Belgian candied sugar. Nice barrel notes of red wine, rye whiskey, oak, and vanilla. Fruit notes of pomegranate and banana along with some cherry, fig, raison, apple, pear, dates, berry, and orange. Malt notes of caramel and biscuit. Subtle earthy hops. A very good taste.

Mouthfeel: Medium bodied with a moderate amount of carbonation. Creamy, juicy, and fairly slick. Alcohol is hidden very well.

Overall: A really good spin on a Belgian style Quad. Good mix of fruit notes with a nice barrel presence of wine and whiskey.

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Photo of shwillivanilli
4.45/5  rDev +16.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

poured into a tulip

a- poured a clean, bright, nice dark golden, almost orange. thick white head from free pour. left a thin thin head, with a good amount of lacing

s- i can smell light hops, citrus, pomegranate. wisp of the rye, and oak. with a slight tartness from the wine barrel.

t- light fruit note, rye and oak. some funk form the wine, tartness. nice long finish

m- surprisingly thin for the abv, nice a bubbly. great carbonation

o- this beer is very different in its self. i can see the argument on it not being a true belgian quad. but maybe thats why i like it so much? great complexity, very balance. blends a lot of different qualities of beer into one. very unique, i enjoy this beer a lot.

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Photo of Heavenisbeer
4.43/5  rDev +16.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Wine glass.

A: Rich orange-tinged gold. One finger head dissipates quickly leaving some suds. Legs like wine and a fine lacing. Champagne bubbles. Lookin good.

S: A sweet and spicy floral bouquet with banana esters outstanding, some Belgian yeasts, and a touch of pear on the side.

T: Spicy clove phenols and a little salty upfront with the alcohol warmth coming on strong and never really leaving--nice for a November night indeed. Some light fruits, but they are really overpowered by the spiciness and alcohol warmth. With such a strong beginning, the ending is a bit of a letdown (or maybe a cooling off period if you prefer to be more positive). There are some faint hints of banana in the aftertaste, and the oak also comes through a bit. Some white wine hints as it warms. Interesting.

M: Curious mouthfeel, with the alcohol and carb dueling for control. There's a ton of warmth and a pleasant viscous coating. A lot going on here, and although it may be overbearing to some, I enjoy it.

I haven't had too many quads, with Pannepot being my favorite experience of this style, and although this is unlike that brew I rather enjoyed it's unique style and quirky characteristics. Also, very big.

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Photo of yamar68
4.42/5  rDev +16%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured from 22oz bomber to over-sized Mikkeller wine glass. Best by 08/04/12. I thought this one would be a worthy candidate for aging but if they insist otherwise, who am I to disagree?

Pours a hazy gold with hints of brown and ruby. A finger of sticky, well-laced head suggests a bit of alcohol.

What a bright smelling beer... overripe cherries, mellow woods, dates, some spicy yeast, licorice, plum, lots of goodness.

Tons of balance. No discernible alcohol presence. Those standard quad fruits make an obvious appearance. Bits of vanilla and caramel come with the wood notes. There's a lot here and it evolves continuously with warmth.

A great beer that I think just has too much going on if you're seeking a run-of-the-mill Belgian style quad. If you know what to expect, though, you'll keep coming back for more.

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Photo of Ghenna
4.42/5  rDev +16%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Last bottle from the Natomas Bevmo, the first I had seen of it.

Poured from a waxed bomber. Delightful light copper with a white quickly dissolving head.

Smells pleasantly malt sweet with solid Belgian fruity esters, caramel as well. Quite inviting, and no boozieness despite the 11%.

Taste, in a word, beautiful. Lots of belgian spiceness and esters, with a nice residual sweetness that I imagine would go away with age. It isn't super complex, and is actually really easy drinking for a quad, but it is nice. The wife even enjoys this one.

I guess if I had to describe this, I would call this an easy drinking quad (at least at present)- but overall just a really good beer. While this isn't as complex as the other beers in their reserve series, I find myself still really enjoying this brew. I will definitely pick up a few bottles to age and see how it gets more complex.

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Photo of Gobearswalter34
4.4/5  rDev +15.5%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

L- pours a beautiful Brilliant Orange that is hazy and the thin,white, creamy head. Lots of carbonation, and sedimentation.
S- wine barrels, sour and belgian yeast funk.
T- wonderful carmel malt combined with the Belgian yeast. Many dark fruits. Slight apple and banana.
F- lots of flavors that comes together well. Smooth sipper. Dry, clean, crisp apple finish.

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Photo of Philousa
4.4/5  rDev +15.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Poured a deep caramel color with one finger white head. The tiny bubbles are like an eye candy appetizer for the beer. The nose suggests its complexities with caramel, spices, sweet fruit, and pungent lemon and banana notes over the course of my 22 oz bomber. The carbonation makes this light and airy to offset the sweet caramel sugar taste. There is a citrusy taste in there somewhere, along with some sweeter fruit flavors, like you might get in dried fruit. Ends in an alcohol burn that isn't too harsh and fades slowly. This beer has a notably silky mouthfeel.

I'm really digging this beer. I noticed the subtleties over the course of the bomber and as it warmed up. This is a complex beer, but it isn't too complex. It's a beer that lets you know it's got some depth but doesn't flaunt it in your face, and I like that. I could go for another 22 ouncer, but the 11% ABV says I shouldn't. I had to remind myself of the ABV since it hides it so well with the noticeable but not over the top candy sugar. Excuse me while I go to my local liquor store to stock up.

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Photo of loren01
4.39/5  rDev +15.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A: Pours a nice clear amber color, bubbly head that disspiates quickly not much lacing
S: Smells fruity (Bananas,apple, pear, dark fruits), clove and of Belgian yeast.
T: Much the same as the smell, taste is nice and fruity, also some wine and earthy flavors in there as well
M: Medium bodied, good finish. Alcohol is very well hidden
O: This is not a typical quad but i love it...very complex and tasty. I'd get this one again for sure.

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Photo of nomomentwasted
4.39/5  rDev +15.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Had this on tap last night at the Deschutes Portland Brewpub, was surprised to see it both in bottles and on tap last night yet no one had reviewed it. Either way, poured from the tap into a snifter.

Appearance: Amber-gold hued, with tiny bubbles of very low carbonation. Lacing was very minimal, head dissipated pretty quickly upon the pour. Much lighter in tone than I expected. Nothing special in this sense.

Smell: Initial aroma when cooler was of a sweet nectar, with hints of raisin, fig, molasses and the slightest bit of anise. Pomegranate was apparent from the get-go, but it took me a minute to put my finger on what exactly the sweetness was really coming from. Sweet from the start, with the yeast lending a very light bubble-gum ester as well. As it warmed, the oaky character came through more and more, along with the dark fruity esters paired just a hint of chocolaty bourbon, but much less so than the Chardonnay overtones from the oaky pomegranate.

Taste: Really a developer of a beer as it warms. Much like in the nose, the beer is definitely still sweet; I'd imagine it getting significantly more rounded out over the coming months/years and becoming a significantly different beer. The residual sweetness is relatively high, with pomegranate and molasses overtones pronounced throughout. The oak, which was muted at first, really became more prominent as the beer warmed, and much to the benefit of the flavor profile. The flavors seemed to be coming from several different directions, but they really benefited from warming to room temperature. Alcohol burn is mild, but the booze in the finish work as well as anything else in the beer, as it pairs very smoothly with the sweet, vanilla-esque finish.

Mouthfeel: Somewhat sticky from the sweetness and lack of heavy carbonation. I think the low-carbonation works for the beer, but I would not have minded a hint more. With a beer this thick, sweet, and chewy, a little more CO2 here and there would not have been terrible. However, the warm, resiny feel does grow on you as it goes.

Drinkability/Overall: I haven't had a beer this interesting in a while. Lots of flavor components, great character and evolution as the beer warmed, and tasty right to the finish. I almost had another one afterward, but instead decided to pick up a few bottles for down the line. Who knows? Maybe like the actual drinking of the beer, perhaps it will get better the longer it lingers.

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Photo of velosuds
4.38/5  rDev +15%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Stoic - one apparently or professedly indifferent to pleasure or pain, according to the dictionary. This, I don't think, exemplifies Deschutes. But, when it comes to innovating in the face of naysayers, then The Stoic seems apt. When I first tasted this at the brewery in April (beer mail me for details if you wish), I thought it should be named The Sophist, for the "wise one." Deschutes is not indifferent to brewing great beer, and for innovating, just indifferent to the fads, trends, of the craft brew industry, and perhaps the opinion of others. For this, I am a thankful, loyal, customer.

Poured from a 22 oz. bomber into a Deschutes snifter. Paid $12.99 at Capital Market in Salem; may have bought the last 3 bottles in town - glad I have two more. Love the artwork on the label; very nostalgic. Reminiscent of my Renaissance and Reformation era studies in college.

A-Pours a slightly hazy copper-orange hue, thankfully without yeast particles, with a two finger, egg shell white head with modest retention and some lacing.

S-Fruity, malty, sweet, and sour (in a pleasant way - from the yeast I suspect). Nice aroma is dominated by dark dried fruits like raisins, figs, dates, but also bananas, caramel malts, and spices. More fruit than sweetness.

T-Prominent flavors include orchard fruits like peaches and pears, with raisins and caramel undertones present. Also, there is more bitterness than the 20 IBUs would suggest from the hops. Perhaps it is from the time spent in Oak Rye Whiskey Barrels. Whatever the cause, the taste is great. Not everything a Belgian Quad enthusiast might want, but I consider this, and positively so, an Americanized, aka bastardized, Belgian-styled quad. The Belgian yeast is clearly present, but I suspect, given Deschutes' reputation, artful use of hops (something Belgians are not nearly as acquainted with) contributed to the "stirring depth & complexity" I experienced.

M-Very smooth for 11% ABV. Carbonation level is spot on. Alcohol is only noticeable form the barrel aging. Remarkable in a beer of this gravity.

O-Drinkability is awesome for a beer this big. I like what Deschutes has done with this. In fact, I liked it before the barrel aging. I do hope Deschutes will continue its innovative forays into the craft brew world after Larry Sidor's departure. Best wishes to Larry in his new endeavors. I believe there is room for more breweries to accompany craft brew icons like Deschutes, which Sidor helped make.

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Photo of Darkmagus82
4.37/5  rDev +14.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

2015 vintage poured from bottle into a chalice glass

Appearance – The beer pours a deep orange-copper color with a thick off white head. The head has a fantastic level of retention, very slowly fading over time to leave a bit of spider web lace on the sides of the chalice.

Smell – The aroma is of a dark fruit smell of cherry, plum, and raisin along with a whole lot of a caramel and molasses sugar smell. Along with these smells comes some great aromas of a spicy smell with the spice being a mix of clove and coriander and with some yeast bringing some banana and a little bit of grass along with it. Other aromas of vanilla and some lighter fruits of apple and pear are also there as well and mix with the rest and a bit of oakiness and booziness to produce a fruity and warming sorta wine like smell overall.

Taste – The taste begins with a with a nice fruity taste mainly of lighter fruits with a good deal of apple, pear, and peach, but containing some darker fruit flavors of plum and cherry as well. There are nice hints of vanilla and caramel sweetness which persist and complement the fruity tastes very well. These tastes remain throughout the brew, increasing in the middle of the taste and fading just ever so slightly at the end. Toward the middle of the taste some light yeasty and spice flavors of clove and coriander as well as a little bit of banana develop on the tongue. An oaky French wine taste develops on the tongue as the flavors progress further, matching the fruity and spice flavors very nicely. In the end, the booziness increases a bit and with the nice fruity and wine like characteristics of the brew, it leaves one with a sweeter and crisp flavor to linger on the tongue.

Mouthfeel – The body of the beer is slightly light for a quad of 10.8 % with a carbonation level that is on the slightly higher side. The thin body was fantastic for the fruity and wine like characteristics of the brew with the higher carbonation giving a nice effervescent feel. Overall very well done.

Overall – This beer really rocks!!!! I am not sure I would consider it a quad, as its flavor (at least to me) was a bit more on the triple side of things with some hints of quad mixed within. Any which way you slice it however, this was a very nice brew and a very dangerously easy drinking brew overall.

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Photo of Shmeal
4.35/5  rDev +14.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

I'm just going to say that while this beer is not a quad by any sort of measure, it is an extremely tasty brew with light barrel aging.

If you can get past the labeling, you're in for a tasty, light, yet high abv beer that is well suited for hotter days on your porch.

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The Stoic from Deschutes Brewery
3.81 out of 5 based on 790 ratings.
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